That's Moscow on the picture! The tallest building on the left, with a lower half of sphere on top looks just like one near Paveletsky Railstation. Actually, the niew is right above the ruins of this railstation... Must be after some post-Apocalyptic fiction like Metro-2033/2034
So it would be good not to escalate confrontation and to stop building the damn global countermissile system. Russia is NOT going to nuke western or other countries first unless directly attacked. Other countries simply _do_ _not_ _have_ missiles worth building such a system. Especially along our borders.
@Parkangw Oh I know that, believe me. They're all freaked about Iran, which never has been, and never could be a threat to us at home. Their leader is an idiot, and its become increasingly obvious that he is just running his mouth hoping to rattle us and win supporters among the jihadists.
But, you're preaching to the choir here, honestly. Most Americans would agree with you there, but our leaders haven't looked out for our best interests since Ronald Reagan, they don't listen to us anymore.
@Ariana321 Pity.There is a growing sense of a threat here. Our leaders try to shake the military back into shape, and Moscow government conciders a citywide project of small quick-deployment bomb shelters. The most recent news is that USA is planning to deploy naval elements of countre-missile system in Black, Baltic an Barentsevo seas. These are Russia's adjancent seas. Too close for comfort, really! Compared to this kind of threat, especially after Iraq and Lybia, Iran pales to insignificance.
@Parkangw There is a similar sense of a threat here as well. Comments made by leaders on both sides have made people uneasy. Its sad too, I was just a little girl when the Cold War ended, but it looks like its trying to find its way back.
Though, I can swear that we aren't going to attack Russia first. It would be foolish to do so even with our higher numbers! History has proven the Russian motherland impregnable to any invader no matter how strong.
@Parkangw dealt with, but not by us. I already know Russia has placed sanctions on them, same with China!
Israel and the "Green / Democracy Movement" in Iran should be the ones handling that issue, and with very recent events, I think Israel has already started. Much of Iran's missile stores are being covertly destroyed, and there is a nasty virus in their nuclear program. And the green movement will do away with their lunatic leader... no reason for either of us to get involved or go to war.
@Ariana321 <-- required for building nukes, but they can make radioative materials. Too close to our southern borders, just a small Caspian Sea away. Modern Iran is insolent and loud-mouthed, but otherwise civilized. Another "flower" or "arabic" revolution _there_? Such possibility is downright scary.
@Parkangw Most of them just want to live in a free, secular society, rather than an oppressive, sharia based Islamic one. Though, unless their leaders rig the voting again, there won't be a violent revolution. But given how "reasonable" Islamic leaders tend to be, we can probably expect one. Though once it ends, I don't think we'll have anything to fear from them.
Both Iraq and Libya were big mistakes though... Libya just established itself as a Sharia regime, after all of that struggle. *Sigh*
@Ariana321 Absolutely agree with you about the rise of patiriotism in case of invasion. This is a general notion, so it must be expected in Iran, too. I also concur, that people of Iran oppose Arabs. But Persians are Shiite muslims, so their rivalry and animosity with Arab Sunnites never meant and I doubt will ever mean they want to be any less islamic then they are now. The main problem with Iran is that they want to be free, yes, but under "free" they mean "independent" --->
@Ariana321 ---> and "by their own laws and traditions", and "no one will tell us what to do and how to live". And this understanding, I'm afraid, includes strict adherence to the tenets of Islam, rule of Shariah and some more truditions that Northern Civilisation (Western and Russian both) conciders barbaric. The example? Lybia. Tunisia. Egypt is headed that way. Before that? Palestina and HAMAS. And the more pressure is applied on Iran, the more its population consolidates in support of Islam.
@Ariana321 Another bell of alarm. Our TV broancast a piece of debates between the canditates for US presidency. Ric Santorum called for the US Government to sanction killing of our nuclear physics scientist. This is tantamount to the worst moments of Cold War. If such actions are ever carried out, it can be counted as an agression.
@Ariana321 So... we put a lot of faith in american people. We hope you can do something about your government. USA is a fricken' democracy, and exemplar at that! Throw them out of the White house, when the next elections come.
@Parkangw Thats basically our plan, no way in hell this trash is going to be reelected. Though, in all honesty? I'm beginning to wonder if we really are even a democracy anymore. And as I said, we haven't had a real leader in over two decades.
Mind if we borrow Putin for a few years? He might not be American, but I know he'd definitely do a better job at it than Obama has. Hell... Obama isn't even American either, hes from Kenya.
@Ariana321 Sorry, we still need Putin for ourselves. Russia is still a real mess in many aspects. But nice to hear such words about our leader. You have no idea how great was our shame for that drunkard Eltsin.
Well, if Iran manages a coup to remove Ahmadinejad, but the country stays under tight control - it's more or less fine. What we fear is the repeat of Iraq or Lybia-like war that turns Iran in a festering rabidly islamist hellhole. There is no proof yet that Iran has the technology --->
@Parkangw Exactly, that's one of the key reasons neither NATO or Israel, or anyone for that matter, should be going into an -open- war with them. It'll just destabilize the place, and turn it into just that, a festering Islamist hellhole, since the people will just end up wanting to defend their homeland. Persians don't like foreign invaders, hell most of the country is trying to push the Arabs and Islamists out entirely, as they see -them- as foreigners who have taken over their nation! -->
whoa epic conversation
AssaultTrooper113 1 month ago
That's Moscow on the picture! The tallest building on the left, with a lower half of sphere on top looks just like one near Paveletsky Railstation. Actually, the niew is right above the ruins of this railstation... Must be after some post-Apocalyptic fiction like Metro-2033/2034
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Parkangw Yep... this is what both of our countries would look like if we ever went to war with one another : \
Kind of a really grim thought, honestly. Probably a good idea we avoid that, methinks.
Ariana321 3 months ago
@Ariana321 Well said.
So it would be good not to escalate confrontation and to stop building the damn global countermissile system. Russia is NOT going to nuke western or other countries first unless directly attacked. Other countries simply _do_ _not_ _have_ missiles worth building such a system. Especially along our borders.
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Parkangw Oh I know that, believe me. They're all freaked about Iran, which never has been, and never could be a threat to us at home. Their leader is an idiot, and its become increasingly obvious that he is just running his mouth hoping to rattle us and win supporters among the jihadists.
But, you're preaching to the choir here, honestly. Most Americans would agree with you there, but our leaders haven't looked out for our best interests since Ronald Reagan, they don't listen to us anymore.
Ariana321 3 months ago
@Ariana321 Pity.There is a growing sense of a threat here. Our leaders try to shake the military back into shape, and Moscow government conciders a citywide project of small quick-deployment bomb shelters. The most recent news is that USA is planning to deploy naval elements of countre-missile system in Black, Baltic an Barentsevo seas. These are Russia's adjancent seas. Too close for comfort, really! Compared to this kind of threat, especially after Iraq and Lybia, Iran pales to insignificance.
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Parkangw There is a similar sense of a threat here as well. Comments made by leaders on both sides have made people uneasy. Its sad too, I was just a little girl when the Cold War ended, but it looks like its trying to find its way back.
Though, I can swear that we aren't going to attack Russia first. It would be foolish to do so even with our higher numbers! History has proven the Russian motherland impregnable to any invader no matter how strong.
Really, the issue of Iran needs to be -->
Ariana321 3 months ago
@Parkangw dealt with, but not by us. I already know Russia has placed sanctions on them, same with China!
Israel and the "Green / Democracy Movement" in Iran should be the ones handling that issue, and with very recent events, I think Israel has already started. Much of Iran's missile stores are being covertly destroyed, and there is a nasty virus in their nuclear program. And the green movement will do away with their lunatic leader... no reason for either of us to get involved or go to war.
Ariana321 3 months ago
@Ariana321 <-- required for building nukes, but they can make radioative materials. Too close to our southern borders, just a small Caspian Sea away. Modern Iran is insolent and loud-mouthed, but otherwise civilized. Another "flower" or "arabic" revolution _there_? Such possibility is downright scary.
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Parkangw Most of them just want to live in a free, secular society, rather than an oppressive, sharia based Islamic one. Though, unless their leaders rig the voting again, there won't be a violent revolution. But given how "reasonable" Islamic leaders tend to be, we can probably expect one. Though once it ends, I don't think we'll have anything to fear from them.
Both Iraq and Libya were big mistakes though... Libya just established itself as a Sharia regime, after all of that struggle. *Sigh*
Ariana321 3 months ago
@Ariana321 Absolutely agree with you about the rise of patiriotism in case of invasion. This is a general notion, so it must be expected in Iran, too. I also concur, that people of Iran oppose Arabs. But Persians are Shiite muslims, so their rivalry and animosity with Arab Sunnites never meant and I doubt will ever mean they want to be any less islamic then they are now. The main problem with Iran is that they want to be free, yes, but under "free" they mean "independent" --->
Parkangw 3 months ago in playlist Aqua vitae
@Ariana321 ---> and "by their own laws and traditions", and "no one will tell us what to do and how to live". And this understanding, I'm afraid, includes strict adherence to the tenets of Islam, rule of Shariah and some more truditions that Northern Civilisation (Western and Russian both) conciders barbaric. The example? Lybia. Tunisia. Egypt is headed that way. Before that? Palestina and HAMAS. And the more pressure is applied on Iran, the more its population consolidates in support of Islam.
Parkangw 3 months ago in playlist Aqua vitae
@Ariana321 Another bell of alarm. Our TV broancast a piece of debates between the canditates for US presidency. Ric Santorum called for the US Government to sanction killing of our nuclear physics scientist. This is tantamount to the worst moments of Cold War. If such actions are ever carried out, it can be counted as an agression.
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Ariana321 So... we put a lot of faith in american people. We hope you can do something about your government. USA is a fricken' democracy, and exemplar at that! Throw them out of the White house, when the next elections come.
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Parkangw Thats basically our plan, no way in hell this trash is going to be reelected. Though, in all honesty? I'm beginning to wonder if we really are even a democracy anymore. And as I said, we haven't had a real leader in over two decades.
Mind if we borrow Putin for a few years? He might not be American, but I know he'd definitely do a better job at it than Obama has. Hell... Obama isn't even American either, hes from Kenya.
Ariana321 3 months ago
@Ariana321 Sorry, we still need Putin for ourselves. Russia is still a real mess in many aspects. But nice to hear such words about our leader. You have no idea how great was our shame for that drunkard Eltsin.
Well, if Iran manages a coup to remove Ahmadinejad, but the country stays under tight control - it's more or less fine. What we fear is the repeat of Iraq or Lybia-like war that turns Iran in a festering rabidly islamist hellhole. There is no proof yet that Iran has the technology --->
Parkangw 3 months ago
@Parkangw Exactly, that's one of the key reasons neither NATO or Israel, or anyone for that matter, should be going into an -open- war with them. It'll just destabilize the place, and turn it into just that, a festering Islamist hellhole, since the people will just end up wanting to defend their homeland. Persians don't like foreign invaders, hell most of the country is trying to push the Arabs and Islamists out entirely, as they see -them- as foreigners who have taken over their nation! -->
Ariana321 3 months ago
o.o i had to listen to it again cuz i wasnt sure if what i heard was real
BarrelFrozen 5 months ago
this is what a world lloks like when the reapers came
Foxman955 5 months ago