Full Show - 5/19/11. Faith & healthcare, Intellectual Property Rights

[mikedans55]

I was a big supporter Adam until this clip. Now you lost me man. 100%. I just woke up to the fact that you are a disingenuous media whore that you claim to oppose. You see, if you fight for my freedom and I fight for yours, we can all agree to disagree. But I'm a recording artist, and you just invited the hordes to decimate my village. That fat shit you have prancing there like it's a big joke - the principle is large my friend, larger than that fat retard. He IS a pirate. Taking what is not his

[mikedans55]

And now taking it too far: Adam the Barbarian. Wants to kill IP and has the intellectual cowardice to stoop to Glenn Beck level lows by equating the "mistake" of leaving Slavery issue out of the constitution with the inclusion of IP, when if he has studied any history he would know that's just a 100% media whore tactic. Barbarians at the Gates? This one's in your mothers bed with a sawn off horses head. Liberty to steal is not Liberty. Recording is an ART distinct from live performance.

[mikedans55]

To clarify: Slavery was not left off the constitution. Their choice was have a republic or try to end slavery and fail on both counts. The DOIndependence says: "All men are created equal". They knew exactly what that meant and left it to future generations to USE IT where they could not. There was not mistake. Neither was there a mistake in the IP issue.

[LoveableNerd]

@ClutchPedalReturnSpr, watch the whole video. He argues that that is one of the two places in the Constitution where the founders got it wrong... the other being slavery. And he argues that using the force of government to establish monopolies over ideas, and inventions does the exact opposite of promoting the Progress of Science and useful Arts.

[ClutchPedalReturnSpr]

Hi Adam Kokesh are you sure about your concept of Intellectual Properties? According to the Constitution for the United States of America Atricle I Section 8 clause 8:

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

[NoSoulProductions37]

I disagree with what you said about not being able to own your ideas. I wish to be an inventor and all of my ideas i don't want stolen by others that see it. i never would have thought that you for theft.

[jeffiek]

@NoSoulProductions37 If you don't want your wallet stolen, you don't leave it laying in the street.

I wholly support you in that your idea is your's. That is not the question. IP is the idea that you can use the force of government against other people.

If your work is valuable, there are voluntary ways to protect it. NDA's and trade secrets are quite common.

Try reading "Against Intellectual Property"

at levine(.)sscnet(.)ucla(.)edu/g­eneral/intellectual/against(.)­htm

[Gct5683]

johnycannuk: I’ve heard that “convinced” arg before and its subjective & not fair. It is unreasonable to ask everyone to believe as one, and “change” is not always for the better. A tougher pill to swallow is the atheist communists who, in their attempt at change, killed more ppl than all “religious wars” combined. Only real solution in a freely diverse world is to work towards the right of mind and conscience, not scornfully deny or eliminate. Controlism also breeds rebellion.

[Gct5683]

Concerning religious comments; I disagree. Many wars fought for land & expansionism. Where religion involved, if not that reason, then would have been something else; people will use whatever reason they can. If 2 ppl w diff cars fight on a highway, is it because of auto loyalty ? About Hitler, read only that he was into ancestral mysticism & rejected Christianity.

[mrttou]

Agghhhrrrr MaTey

[DrDopehat]

As genuine this guy is, and as much good I'm sure he does and will do..I have to disagree with this entire premise. Religion is what causes all the problems of war. Religion is what causes most wars.

Now I know theres the cold war, and vietnam..but really besides those..*most* wars were religiously founded or inspired.

Even hitler did what he did for religious reasons, and yes I can prove that if called upon to do so.

[dvalentino007]

America is like the globalists enron. The cheap fuel will be exploited to gain more ground for war. The more oil they are in control of the more they can mantain their pace to go for bigger targets on the big oil countries. Why act dumb and think they will set up some sort of a free democracy as advertised

[Ionhelen]

Situational question: I am a digital artist, using Photoshop to create digital paintings and illustrations. I do not want people, businesses, or other entities using a drawing or painting I create in any way without my permission. I especially do not want someone else making a profit off the fruits of my labor and innovation by simply cut-pasting my work into their own frame. How can my work be protected within the freemarket paradigm suggested in this video?

[RikkiLo1]

@Ionhelen The reality is your work has value to someone who commissions you to create it. Otherwise, how is it actually valuable? Music is the same way today. The money isn't in selling CDs, it's in touring. The CD is just the brochure and new artist actually are embracing free digital distribution in order to advertise themselves so people will pay to see them live while other rely on force to have government transfer wealth to them.

[RuddODragonFear]

Adam:

You rock. Whoever has you doing a show for them has no idea how much he is winning :-) BI-WINNING!

[johnycannuk]

RE: 6:08, Sorry Jim Wallis, but that statement is 100% true and the New Atheists - of which I am proudly a member - are correct. Merely reading history is enough to show that.

When you are convinced you have the ear and know the mind of a supernatural creator, that means, but definition, that those who do not agree are wrong, and that doing anything to them is right.

Sorry, its a tough pill to swallow. Until you do, you will not affect change.

[rowans126]

@johnycannuk I disagree, when one has true faith, one is also open to listening to other ideas presented by others. I think that what you are saying is what Jim Wallis is arguing against, I think he is implying that in order to have true faith one must be able to question his beliefs, thus enabling him to be open to new ideas and change.

thought this quote illustrates the idea of faith: 'Doubt is conquered by faith, just as it is faith which had brought doubt into the world' - Kierkegaard

[Horkslair]

Open source everything will free mankind from every bond. Once the creativity of ~6.7 BILLION people is unleashed, the earth will utterly transform.

In all seriousness, once ego and profits are taken out of ideas, people will begin to work together for the common good instead of trying to limit knowledge in order to line their own pockets.

[exxx247]

Question Adam. Where does someone falsely claiming a work is theirs come into this? Are they correct to do that? Should the government then step in? Is this libel? Please expand on that

[jellojenna6]

I'm still skeptical about completely abolishing intellectual property rights, even though I don't see anything wrong with copying music. I worry that people will pass off other people's ideas as their own. However, I believe that the internet needs to be free from government control. Great show as usual; this is an interesting issue.

[pipkguitar]

I have to disagree with Adam about intellectual property rights. What happens in the case that a company spends millions of dollars and countless hours designing a product that can be easily produced? A competitor can take the final design and reap the benefits with little effort. For example, new medicines take a long time to be discovered, but can be reproduced with much less effort. So, if someone takes the idea and has better marketing skills, the real designer has no money for new projects

[Leftovervictim1991]

Choose Freedom over Tyranny!

Restore America Now!

Vote Ron Paul 2012!!

[mushmouth4life]

I'm not entirely sold on the anti-IP arguments. I mean all this talk of the world before modern IP just ignores the realities of that time, there was no internet to download plays or or songs, you had to pay to see a play and usually roving bards and minstrels lived a shoestring life. Most works of art and scientific discoveries were funded by wealthy landholders or governments. Many industrial inventions were guarded as trade secrets by their inventors and users.

[Shezmu]

Thanks for continuing to say on air that which many won't say off air. That said, while I agree with your conclusions on IP, at least with your words you seemed to have not placed enough value of the individual's role in the evolution of ideas.

While I agree that individuals move ideas forward by adding a relatively small amount of new ideas on a mountain of old ideas or merely combining old idea, that does not make the individual's contribution insignificant.

[Shezmu]

@Shezmu - After all, humanity missed out on having the steam engine several hundred years before it did solely because there was no individual(s) to connect the two necessary parts together. Without Einstein to turn Newtonian physics on it's head, we'd be out a century's worth of physics. And I'm not even getting into creative media. Again, just because an individual doesn't a lot of new things to the table does not mean what they do bring to the table isn't worth much.

[DejaDamascus]

thanks for the 5 dislikes. the like bar looks like a freshly lit joint now.

[Somespatanwarrior]

Where can I find that clip at 14:00?

[koneye]

Good show today. What I want to see is some information sharing from Lockheed Martin propulsion labs and top secret military propulsion methods that save fuel

You can see some already declassified here : watch?v=OcGJpd2aW_c

[seks03]

awesome show, I love this show

[ToolFan68]

So let me get this straight... authors, musicians and artists are just supposed to starve so you can read their books for free, listen to their music for free, own their art for free? Do you work for free too?

[DejaDamascus]

adam putting on those shades at the end and grinning the way he does. what a cool mother fucker.

[fpabeid]

great show today

[squintsvocals]

Hey 3 Thumbs down people... you're outnumbered heavily and your opinion is simply wrong and really dumb.

You basically suck at life is what I'm saying.

[kmg501]

Just two comments on the opening of the show. Don't giggle when a guest is talking. And in the very short segments like that one, let the guest have the last word. I agreed with your retort Adam but that isn't the point.

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[AdamKokesh]

@kmg501 Thanks!

[BojanNisevic]

Who is "The Man"?

[Ristar85]

i thought u were gonna say "u r not a pirate, but a felon".

lol.

[RPJunky]

clsical music was invented and same with paintings to ass lick the king not to bring wealth to the market.

[TTT1776]

Thank God, a libertarian that has a educated understanding of I.P., aka, imaginary property. "The Battle For Intellectual Property Is The Battle For Complete Control Of The Masses." /watch?v=N7hNycmG4YE

[RPJunky]

the system needs rules or it wont work. it must be free so it must be relaxed as much as possible. but to take away intellectual property rights is ridiculous.

[RPJunky]

i am an inventor and i would not even bother inventing again if i knew someone else was to steal my idea. fuck that. no inventions and we are all poorer. idiots.

[AdamKokesh]

@RPJunky YEAH! Before IP nobody invented anything! The wheel, the printing press, language! None of that existed until the government created idea monopolies and people could make money on the LAST idea instead of the NEXT idea!

[RPJunky]

This guy is WRONG WRONG WRONG. protect investions or there'll be none.

[batmanthe]

@RPJunky Stephan Kinsella is an IP lawyer who saw it for what it was. What are you? A corporate paid hack? This is how you protect your inventions, it's not complicated. : You keep them secret until they are built and make contracts with people who work under you and any investors you show it to. You enter the market with a good market strategy and people will recognize you were first to create the product and they will respect that and buy it. Then when someone rips you off you make one better.

[batmanthe]

@batmanthe NO Libertarian. NO Liberal. NO Replublican disputes all forms of contract law. IP is a different animal which puts EVERYONE in society under an agreement without them even signing squat.

[RPJunky]

@batmanthe so britney spears releases her first song sells 1000 copyies before rest million is pirated because of the absent laws. she makes no money actually wounds up in debt because of it. microsoft invest 2 billion inventing windows7 places it on the market sells 10000 copies before the market pirates it and shuffles it around fr free because the laws allowed piracy. microsoft goes bankrupt. prove to me it will work all i can see is failure for all of us.

[mersk100]

@RPJunky britney sells her song and performacne to a company, she gets paid one way or the other. The company then promotes the song and the "brand".

Microsoft is one of the most succesful companies ever because of prirating its software. It created a huge base for additional MS products and services.

[TTT1776]

@RPJunky Microsoft is a company that made a shell for DOS and got lucky. The barely work for the money they have they just milk their IP/name. Windows has barely improved over the last 10 years. You most likely won't believe me now but in 10 years Linux will have over taken windows and it is free in every way. You might also want to pick something better then Britney, most people want her gone as well. With out IP 'REAL' music is made and shared.

[AdamKokesh]

@RPJunky Right. Before the government invented IP, no one invented anything. Sure.

[cplot]

@AdamKokesh in prior feudal governments most intellectual products were patronized by government. I don't think we want to make that the only outlet for intellectual production. It can be one way among many, but not the only one way.

[AdamKokesh]

@cplot In the age of the internet, the people have a very easy mechanism by which to pool capital to fuel innovation. In effect, that's what you're doing by tuning into this show and adding to the view count. ;)

[AdamKokesh]

@cplot And just because monarchies had seized so much capital as to dominate the creative market, so now do government and major corporations, doesn't make it right. Yet even in that time, individuals were patrons of the arts and individuals pooled their resources voluntarily by supporting churches who funded more art than the government did, if not more "intellectual products" than gov't altogether.

[cplot]

@AdamKokesh those medieval churches were essentially governments. They had and wielded taxation powers to compel rents. I'm not saying there alternative approaches cannot work. However, a lack of intellectual property might lead to a reduction in intellectual production. Reducing potential rewards to intellectual production has an adverse environmental impact too since intellectual production is much less a burden on the environment than other production. That would be my biggest concern.

[RPJunky]

u must have intlectual property rights capitaism works on profit not invention theft? mate ill invent nothing if my idea is not protected fuck that. this guy is wrong.

[TTT1776]

@RPJunky Then don't. The world will not be a better place by you creating media that can not be cloned. Please do not create and share anything you do not want shared.

[RPJunky]

@TTT1776 it will be cloned but not straight away u dh. u must reward the inventor or he will invent nothing. and u will have nothing. without protect we are fucked.

[TTT1776]

@RPJunky NO. We will not be fucked. We must do away with laws traditional copyright. I have created 100+ creative commons videos and morally will only ever create media that can be legally shared. If that means the end of the MPAA and the movies they make, then good, we are better off with out them.

[RPJunky]

@TTT1776 no one is interested in ur shit movies. u cant make money off rubbish video. why would microsoft spend billions inventing microsoft if they knew there software could be copied after there first thousand batch? they would essentially go bankrupt and no new windows from microsoft. the idea would have never been invented in the first place.

[TTT1776]

@RPJunky LOL. That's funny because I have no interest in Microsoft. The world would be a much better place with out them. I use Linux, it's free do copy, modify and share. Linux respects our rights and because everyone is welcome to edit and share, it is becoming drastically better every day. IP is imaginary property and Microsoft can burn in hell.

[spamllpitdept]

@TTT1776 - It's funny how IP shills always mention Windows while Linux completely shatters Windows. Linux has already taken over in research facilities, governments, and many business. The only thing standing in the way of the general public choosing Linux is that it's really hard to buy a laptop or computer now days without having Windows tossed in and charged to the bill. I garauntee you if they made Windows an option for +$50 or whatever they charge and Linux for +$0, Linux would take over

[cplot]

@spamllpitdept LInux is also intellectual property. The same property laws that protect Windows also protect Linux. The difference is that the producers of Linux license it under difference terms than the producers of Windows. So you are not comparing property to non-property. You are comparing different property owners who choose to license under different terms. The pythagorean theorem (distance formula) is non-proprietary (though it would not surprise me if Microsoft attempts to patent it).

[iateyourgranny]

@RPJunky lmao @ capitalism not working on invention theft, what universe do you come from?

[benmcfee]

As a writer, when someone tries to write another story using my characters or scenarios (fan-fiction), I take that as a COMPLIMENT, not an offence! I want people to copy my work and share it with everyone! That's called "free advertising." If my book's no good, no one will copy it. Once I'm making money, I don't need the cops to squeeze every penny out of people who just want to read my work. Like so many other laws, this protects corporations who would take my ideas, and claim them as theirs!

[RPJunky]

@benmcfee who would copy ur rubbish song its shit. if u were able to be paid to write a decent song u would do it so why throw away millions for some idiot to gain it for free? why would u remain disadvantaged if u knew of a way to gain an advantage? freebies would destroy our capitalist system. retard.

[benmcfee]

@RPJunky

Do you have any idea how much advertising costs?

I'm for getting for free what advertisers would charge through the nose for (therefore INCREASING the chance the artist remains disenfranchised)! The corporation who "owns" the music NEVER loses out. They might take small losses, but nothing compared to the artists they "represent".

You love our capitalist system so much, then stop supporting corporations who are pro-monopoly and anti innovation. They eat entrepreneurs for breakfast!

[iateyourgranny]

@RPJunky flagged for being an idiot who mistakes a book for a song

[paco114]

@AdamVsTheManRT 22:49 Speak of the devil! Just a couple of years ago, there was a Middle Eastern "scientist" claiming that the world was, in fact, flat and that we perceive the world as round because of a trick our eyes play on us. The funniest part is that he actually received some indirect government funding for his "research!"

[AdamKokesh]

@paco114 Holy shit. Now I actually have someone to laugh at! haha!

[paco114]

Copyrights are just like government-sponsored corporations; they are both monopolies and are therefore detrimental to the interests of capitalism, free-trade, and overall progress of the human race.

[nismobeach]

The only way people can ensure the integrity of their intellectual property rights is to keep their thoughts and ideas to themselves.

[Daniel44125]

The Wright Brothers patented and chased away anyone who tried to bring out their own airplanes. The result was when we entered WW1 we had to buy airplanes from France and England because ours did not advance much since they were invented

Many times copies are not just mere copies they are actually improvements and the competition spurs innovations on the original idea

Movie and music can lower prices and advertise spyware free media as their strong point over illegally downloaded content.

[g1981c]

OK Adam i think you're wrong on this one. Look at Silicon Valley and look at China or Russia - where is the innovation ? It is in SV, because Russia and China do not have effective IP rights. 21st century economy is ALL about SV type innovation and i am afraid without IP rights it is not going to fly. I like downloading Mp3s and Porn too, but i support IP rights for capital-intensive R&D projects.

[batmanthe]

@g1981c Because they don't have effective IP?? That seems like a ridiculous claim to me. How about because of socialism. There's an unbelievable amount of evidence socialism stifles innovation and numerous sound behavioral and economic theories for why socialism stifles innovation.

[g1981c]

@batmanthe except that US is more socialistic than either Russia or China.

[batmanthe]

@g1981c Russia collapsed from the USSR only 30 years ago and Russia is mostly cold barren wasteland with double the landmass of the USA but 1/2 the population.. China was a hell hole 20 years ago but they are on the rise due to deregulation and a reduction in socialist policies. The USA is in decline but has benefited from 300+ years of semi-capitalist infrastructure and the world reserve power to ship their inflation overseas and dumbfounded countries give back valuable assets and goods.

[batmanthe]

@g1981c Of course there are a lot more factors than this at play but I think those are some of the main reasons they have had less innovation than the USA.

[Daniel44125]

Jim Wallace is a communist

[jamesuslovesu]

So, If someone puts Adam's show on facebook all the time because they think he's awesome and wanted more people to watch his show they could get sued?

I don't see how any kind of punishment could be justified for something with no provable malicious intent, but, as our drug laws prove, you can be legally wrong without being morally wrong.

[Tasadaru]

Does this mean no more anime AMVs? Youtube would really start to suck if that happens.

[TreachMarkets]

I love the fraggle rock manga video!

[wacabby]

lol @ 16.33 glasses fall down table

[redgenealogy]

Hey Bowker! I do not like or abide by your government sanctioned monopoly on ISBNs! Self-published Authors unite! ;)

[MikeforLiberty]

@cplot

Good idea for a podacst to bypass YouTube. Do it! Adam and RT aren't stopping you. If it is a good idea you'll be RICH.

Great show, as always!

[cplot]

@MikeforLiberty indeed I'll be rich. My business plan is to sell the podcast of the show for just a few cents below what consumers pay here on YouTube or to watch it on RT. How will I turn a profit on that you ask? It’s all about volume!

[AdamKokesh]

@cplot Lol. And just how much will you be charging that is a few cents below what YouTube charges?

[neoplasmax]

Adam used food as an example, but genetic food is patented also. And there are some companies using it to their advantage. Just read up on the Monsanto soybean patent and all the bullshit surrounding that.

And OMG, that Kinsella guy is a genius. Agree 100%!!!!

[makzmakz]

YAAARRGH! :D

[neoplasmax]

Adam used food as an example, but genetic food is patented also. And there are some companies using it to their advantage. Just read up on the Monsanto soybean patent and all the bullshit surrounding that.

[miketherevolutionary]

Excellent program... another show that blows the media propaganda paradigm out of the water! I love that comment..."Government is only good at two things... Destroying things and bamboozling people into believing they are necessary."

[WhatsReallyGoingOnUS]

Wow!! Kinsella just nailed it!

Just think, if mathematicians or physicists copyrighted their ideas there would be absolutely no progress in those fields.

As a mathematician you are valuable (to society) if you come up with a useful idea, i.e. useful to others. Rather than sell their ideas, they give them away. Others give them recognition by attaching their name to the idea.

Example: The Gauss--Ostrogradsky Theorem.

And very few modern inventions would be possible without math or physics.

[cplot]

I do not understand. If ‘government violence’ should not be used to protect intellectual property, why should ‘government violence’ be used to protect property in portions of the Earth or anything else for that matter. And if ‘government violence’ should be used for the latter, then why not the former. It seems to me that the issue is we need better representation in our legislatures to hone exactly how long patents and copyrights should last (but it should be greater than 0 years).

[batmanthe]

@cplot There is a distinct difference between the economics and the ethics of scarce goods versus non-scarce goods. Ideas are non-scarce goods. "Theft" of IP is not theft, it's copying something. While it may not be very nice to copy someones works without permission; if you would buy it otherwise. It should be a matter of personal moral principle not the domain of government. IP protection is far too abstract especially now in the digital age and hands over far too much power to government.

[RPJunky]

@batmanthe ur wrong. why not allow us to owne ur house too its not urs u built it but its free for all sorry mate u have no rights that house u built is mine to live in too. yo wouldnt bother even building it if that were the case. same goes with intellect. ur WRONG and DANGEROUS to capitalism.

[batmanthe]

@RPJunky I seriously hope you are kidding. As I pointed out real property is non-scarce. If you copy my house you aren't taking my house, I still have my house. All you've done at most is hurt my feelings; OH BOO HOO YOU COPIED MY STYLE! Might as well outlaw free speech also because your intellect hurts my head.

[batmanthe]

@batmanthe *typo real property IS scarce.

[RPJunky]

@batmanthe was windows7 not scares before it was invented ? did it not take an idea to creat it ? so stealing someones idea means u rob society from a product that would have become yet is not now because u wont protect the idea to begin with. copy is the same as saying steal. u would see people inventing for themselves and not for all. yet the inventions would be silly stupid things that no one really needs. like ur stupid songs or movies u make with youtube.

[standupgun]

@batmanthe

I like your position here. I have argued in favor of IP rights in the past, but I am open to the alternative, especially if its the federal government that starts enforcing it. (using it as an excuse to censor, see A.C.T.A.) Still I have reservations, without protection you can expect a Renaissance of starving artists, but maybe they should be starving?

[cplot]

@standupgun there are two ways federal government might enforce. Once is to provide a system of courts and its enforcement agents for tort and contract disputes over intellectual property. The other is to deploy criminal enforcement mechanisms which have no place in this area of property. Perhaps that is the confusion in this entire thread. Congress designating how intellectual product becomes property should merely enable litigation based enforcement.

[cplot]

@batmanthe It seems if society is to grant a ‘monopoly privilege’ over a resource we should grant a ‘monopoly privilege’ in the products of labor and not to those things occurring naturally without the intervention of labor: especially when granting a monopoly privilege to non-reproducible scarce resources is more damaging to those excluded. Though someone should not have to re-create the WIndows Operating System, that is better than saying a few owners enjoy a monopoly privilege to all land.

[batmanthe]

@cplot There are numerous ways to protect your inventions and digital works that don't require abstractions. For example if you run a business that invests a great deal into new inventions you can create various forms of contracts with your employees (NDAs,PIAs) and in the event details are leaked they could be held liable. Now some Youtube agreement with every user is a bit absurd because they are not the owners of the content, and they are not even allowed to not have such an agreement.

[cplot]

@batmanthe I do not doubt there are many options for enforcement of IP: though even contracts involve enforcement from the ‘abstraction’ you seem to malign. However, I'm trying to understand what makes the intellectual property different from other property in that sense. Why is intellectual property a fiction and other property not a fiction?

[standupgun]

@cplot

This is a really interesting debate! I see a lack of enforcement of IP as a potential limiting factor in inspiring individuals to invent, especially artists/musicians/photographer­s but I also see strict enforcement of IP leading us to censorship, and like Adam proposes...also being a limiting factor in inspiring individuals to invent. I am glad to see people discussing this, it could lead to some radical changes...

[cplot]

Hey Adam, since you’re personally opposed to intellectual property, how about putting out a podcast so that we can watch the show offline. Youtube is for those who think they need the faux protections of digital rights management.

[AdamKokesh]

@cplot You're welcome to do that yourself! Please, go ahead. I promise I won't stop you.

[helpendthefed]

@cplot You can download vids off youtube to your computer and watch them whenever you want already. Checkout downloadhelper

[k24a2ek9]

Does anybody know where I can find the full version of that Daily News clip?

Keep up the great work Adam! :)

[MadXMax187]

I have never heard a better idea than this "bill of copyrights" its so libertarian yet kind of socialist and more so the scientifically responsible way to go about intellectual property. The reason I say its socialist because in my utopian vision of a libertarian socialist is because the IP would be socialized yet there would be strong reservation for private property and personal liberties. There would just be more responsibility among the people to work with each other and make society work.

[DefiantTiger]

I blame dubstep for copyright IP.

[anarchylogic]

@5:04 Obama tells us that, "we have the chance to show that America values the dignity street vender in Tunisia more than the raw power of the dictator", how about Obama showing to Americans that he values the street vendors (small business owners) HERE in America more by not stealing our money to prop up the dictators in the first place.

[MadXMax187]

I love the pirate picture of Eric Holder lol classic, the government are the real pirates stealing all our loot and making off like wild bandits in their all black trucks.

[gonzopoet00]

I pirated this video.

[oldstyleliberal]

Woo my recommendation from facebook for Steph Kinsella was taken into advisement!