there's not a whole lot of artists out there, where you can actually feel the emotions in your chest from their voice. most try but don't succeed. elliott is/was/always will be the best at it. ::Always missed::
No... He was sexually abused by Charlie, who is his step father. He has mentioned this in other songs. As fans most of us know about this incredible artist's background.
@crankkinder Well as a fan maybe you should be more interested in his music, instead of his personal life, which no one will ever truly comprehend. Or are you just one of these people who feeds on the bad shit that happens in artists lives, instead of all the good things Elliott did for people round the world, through his music, not his life style.
i wanna let everyone know i love this man and his music and when my sentence ends from my mouth for his music to automatically lay in everyone's minds
@samesamething I'm glad he's still relatively underground. Bob's message is cheapened when it gets commercialized, and Elliott's intensely introspective depth would seem wrong in the form of housewives and teenage girls wearing his face on t-shirts. Elliott's music is best appreciated alone, not as "party music" where the lyrics aren't even important, just the "hot beat." He'll never be popular for that reason, and I'm glad for it.
I wish the production would be better. I like the lo-fi four-track production of Roman Candle and the self-titled, but this could be just slightly better recorded. However, this is one my favorite songs.
Previously, I've only heard a live version of this song, which is even more emotional then this one. It's a great song though, I like the harmonica part that's in this. I'll never know how Elliott was capable of singing such personal songs to a live audience. I'd get hammered drunk before shows too just to get through a set.
Elliott was sometimes drunk when he performed (i've seen a few videos of his performances right before his death where he was intoxicated).I don't mean it as an insult of course, I'm just saying maybe it was his way of coping with the depression/anxiety that comes from performing deeply personal songs before an audience of strangers
Elliott was actually not sure if his step father, charlie, abused him. Charlie denied it, but Elliott was always suspicious. However, there was physical abuse
yea, that made no sense. i think what u meant to say was that elliott wasnt sure whether or not he was sexually abused, but that in fact he definitely was physically abused..
Wayward stole the words from my mouth. Music is what you make it guys. Elliott didn't write music just for himsekf. It's up to you to decide what it means.
ShokyShrox didn't misinterpret it. Smith used drug metaphors as a vehicle for talking about dependence. I'm pretty sure Elliott intended for the song to have more then one meaning. I think he's pretty much comparing his experience as a kid with Charlie to heroin usage. He's depending on this person, but he also being extremely harmed by him. Physically and mentally.
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How can you be pretty sure Elliott intended for the song to have more than one meaning? Did you ask him?
And what makes you think he was comparing his abusive stepfather to Heroin? Just because he was dependant on his stepfather doesn't mean that he is going to sing about Heroine.
Also, Charlie is slang for crack, not Heroine.
Just because you learnt full stops and capital letters doesn't mean anything you just said was justified.
You can be sure because once the work is in the public eye, as with all art, the audience has as much say as to its relevance as the artist. Therefore no theory can be disproved unless the theorist misread.
However, there are many symbols in this song which can be interpereted several ways.
Im just telling you guys my opinion. No need to negatively rate the comment. If you really listen you might reconsider and see what Im talking about. It's not a bad thing to write a song about dependancey.
It's about heroin, "charlie got a band in his hand a ruber loop" for tying off. "Im the man you really want so just act natural" heroin making him feel like the person he wants to be. Im sure that the name Charlie has some signigigents. Even though Smith wasnt using heroin yet he still wrote alot of songs about dependancy.
there's not a whole lot of artists out there, where you can actually feel the emotions in your chest from their voice. most try but don't succeed. elliott is/was/always will be the best at it. ::Always missed::
Oxidized181 2 months ago
I can not stop clicking the replay button.
STCN0B0DY 6 months ago
child abuse sucks we should do more about it
cordfluidnevoie 8 months ago
i would never be able to bare my soul like elliott did. he gave so much....
coconutfever123 1 year ago
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where does he say that gammar? sounds to me like hes talking about tying off (doing heroin)
happytreefriends1fan 1 year ago
where does he say that gammar? sounds to me like hes talking about tying off (doing heroin)
happytreefriends1fan 1 year ago
@happytreefriends1fan
No... He was sexually abused by Charlie, who is his step father. He has mentioned this in other songs. As fans most of us know about this incredible artist's background.
crankkinder 8 months ago
@crankkinder Well as a fan maybe you should be more interested in his music, instead of his personal life, which no one will ever truly comprehend. Or are you just one of these people who feeds on the bad shit that happens in artists lives, instead of all the good things Elliott did for people round the world, through his music, not his life style.
MaybeLasting 8 months ago
The pain really comes through in this song. But its so beautiful that its still enjoyable to listen
breeeegs 1 year ago
Anyone know where I can get an MP3 of this?
coverasong 1 year ago
this song is about how he got sexually abused by his step dad :(
jakhoggan 1 year ago
i wanna let everyone know i love this man and his music and when my sentence ends from my mouth for his music to automatically lay in everyone's minds
samesamething 1 year ago
we should be able to find elliott stuff all of over as much as one would see bob marley merch. it's a shame, and he's no less a legend.
samesamething 1 year ago
@samesamething I'm glad he's still relatively underground. Bob's message is cheapened when it gets commercialized, and Elliott's intensely introspective depth would seem wrong in the form of housewives and teenage girls wearing his face on t-shirts. Elliott's music is best appreciated alone, not as "party music" where the lyrics aren't even important, just the "hot beat." He'll never be popular for that reason, and I'm glad for it.
JiangZiyaTabooDays 1 year ago 4
@samesamething Elliott >>>>>>> Bobo Marley don't you dare to compare
cordfluidnevoie 8 months ago
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this touches me so much. it feels great and hurts at the same time. almost like love.
this is beyond explainable.
elliott's songs will never die. he knew it!
jimbeamrye 1 year ago
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great version. never hear this....
skylash 1 year ago
great version. never hear this....
skylash 1 year ago
this song makes me want to cry bahhh! it's so beautiful.
Tarusquee 1 year ago
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top five indie bands
1. elliott smith
2. bright eyes
3. mountain goats
4. fleet foxes
5. kevin m. kirker
but elliott smith will always be #1! we miss you and love you elliott! we'll never forget you! rest in peace
astonishing00 2 years ago
I wish the production would be better. I like the lo-fi four-track production of Roman Candle and the self-titled, but this could be just slightly better recorded. However, this is one my favorite songs.
tutani 2 years ago 2
This song takes me to a new level of depression.
But, I can never stop listening.
I miss you elliot.
slaughterxsandii 3 years ago 24
@slaughterxsandii Elliott*
kaka9419 8 months ago
Previously, I've only heard a live version of this song, which is even more emotional then this one. It's a great song though, I like the harmonica part that's in this. I'll never know how Elliott was capable of singing such personal songs to a live audience. I'd get hammered drunk before shows too just to get through a set.
ramblesocket 3 years ago 6
that's the way he apparently was to perform and mostly overall.
samesamething 1 year ago
@ramblesocket
well he got hammered drunk too before shows. towards end of his life he was rumouredto have a grand a day crack and heroin habit.
gayfarmerboy 1 year ago
Elliott was sometimes drunk when he performed (i've seen a few videos of his performances right before his death where he was intoxicated).I don't mean it as an insult of course, I'm just saying maybe it was his way of coping with the depression/anxiety that comes from performing deeply personal songs before an audience of strangers
breeeegs 4 months ago
so brutal
senkaxxx 3 years ago 5
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Yhoah 3 years ago
Elliott was actually not sure if his step father, charlie, abused him. Charlie denied it, but Elliott was always suspicious. However, there was physical abuse
mooninites755 3 years ago
yea, that made no sense. i think what u meant to say was that elliott wasnt sure whether or not he was sexually abused, but that in fact he definitely was physically abused..
Gammarklar 3 years ago 3
ya, i forgot to add sexual abuse in there
mooninites755 3 years ago
@Gammarklar
He was sexually abused by his stepfather, that is what he says.
yalinegurl1 1 year ago
brilliant
SandraHeartsRyan 3 years ago 4
Wayward i totally agree
falcostrife 3 years ago
is this from roman candle?
onlyeyesabove 3 years ago
Its from a split record he did with Pete Krebs. It came out a little after Roman Candle.
waywardproject 3 years ago
Do you know what the record is called?
lustforlife15 3 years ago
its called no confidence man, it was neveer released on a CD
mooninites755 3 years ago
Shytown
waywardproject 3 years ago 2
Wayward stole the words from my mouth. Music is what you make it guys. Elliott didn't write music just for himsekf. It's up to you to decide what it means.
ShokyShrox 3 years ago
ShokyShrox didn't misinterpret it. Smith used drug metaphors as a vehicle for talking about dependence. I'm pretty sure Elliott intended for the song to have more then one meaning. I think he's pretty much comparing his experience as a kid with Charlie to heroin usage. He's depending on this person, but he also being extremely harmed by him. Physically and mentally.
waywardproject 3 years ago
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How can you be pretty sure Elliott intended for the song to have more than one meaning? Did you ask him?
And what makes you think he was comparing his abusive stepfather to Heroin? Just because he was dependant on his stepfather doesn't mean that he is going to sing about Heroine.
Also, Charlie is slang for crack, not Heroine.
Just because you learnt full stops and capital letters doesn't mean anything you just said was justified.
LaDeeDaDeDaDeDa 3 years ago
You can be sure because once the work is in the public eye, as with all art, the audience has as much say as to its relevance as the artist. Therefore no theory can be disproved unless the theorist misread.
However, there are many symbols in this song which can be interpereted several ways.
fivewerehigh 3 years ago 4
Im just telling you guys my opinion. No need to negatively rate the comment. If you really listen you might reconsider and see what Im talking about. It's not a bad thing to write a song about dependancey.
ShokyShrox 3 years ago
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I think they gave you thumbs down because you misinterpreted the song, buddeh.
LaDeeDaDeDaDeDa 3 years ago
this song is about Charlie. Elliott's step-dad
JunkBondTrader007 3 years ago 2
its such a sad song
falcostrife 3 years ago
man this is one of elliot smith's most deepest an saddest songs.. the man was a genius a tortured artist
AMICHIO 3 years ago
It's about heroin, "charlie got a band in his hand a ruber loop" for tying off. "Im the man you really want so just act natural" heroin making him feel like the person he wants to be. Im sure that the name Charlie has some signigigents. Even though Smith wasnt using heroin yet he still wrote alot of songs about dependancy.
ShokyShrox 3 years ago
Can you tell me what the story behind this song is? It's so sad, but the meaning is just eluding me.
Gwiggo9 4 years ago 2
Charlie was his stepfather who abused him as a child.
mymayapapaya 4 years ago 4
So sad. :(
mymayapapaya 4 years ago 2
yea i can't believe he could even muster up the courage to play it live.
DarknessFalls34567 4 years ago