It's fascinating how you can put more and more data onto smaller and smaller storage devices, such as the Atari Flashback 2. Sometimes it feels like people take it for granted.
Everybody talks trash about E.T., it really wasn't THAT bad. Look at most of the trash that was made for Atari back then and E.T. would look like a masterpiece.
umm. no. You can not directly compare clock frequency of two different cpu's when their architecture is so different. The 360 and PS3 have clock frequencies that are about 2000 times faster, but their cpu's are also many times more efficient at handling code than the atari's.
Per clock clycle the atari can handle 1, (if even that) line of code. The cpu in the PS3 per clock cycle can handle 14 or more lines of code.
The NES did not dethrone Atari. Atari was on life support if not dead by the time the NES came out. This guy making the vid clearly was not alive during the 83' crash.
Your information is incorrect. The Atari 2600 could only see 4KB of RAM at any one time not 8KB as your video says. This is why some games towards the end of the life came with 16kb games using bank switching, four banks of 4kb each.
The Flashback console can't appect cartridges so you are basicallly stuck with the games that come with it which is not much considering you can fit the entire library of games onto one CD disc.
E.T. IMO wasn't a terrible game for Atari 2600. It wasn't great but people act like it was the worst game ever made and its not. IT had multiple screens, an ending, etc.
Nintendo didn't dethrone Atari. Atari barely existed by the time the NES came out. Nintendo made Video Games popular again. That's a better way of saying it.
@seganerd89 Yeah I know. I've been gaming for 30 years. Gimmie some credit. I said barely existed, as in no one cared about Atari anymore. Atari had been defeated by the industry in 83. So Nintendo wasn't responsible for dethroning Atari. Atari stopped being relevant years before NES. The NES actually dethroned the Sega Master System. Which was a formidable opponent, in terms of power at least.
@adamyoshi ET was the game often associated with spurring the video game crash... Few things beat being called the game that made people put down the controllers, and go back outside to rediscover Exercise.
Zvesda, I wish I were as easily entertained as you!
ET is sited historically as one of the the worst games ever for the 2600 as well as one of the reasons the home gaming market crashed. It is pure shit.
I suggest you don't believe every thing you hear scarmullet. There was no video game crash of 1983. Do you even know how many games came out in 1983? Try doing some research. Just because Atari fucked up by manufacturing too many copies of ET dose not mean the video game market crashed. They fucked up and a couple of very small companies messed up as well. But that doesn't mean anything! Video game companies go out of business all the time.
The crash occurred in the winter of 1983, but it did not take its toll till January 1984. In 1984, close to 90% of the game creating companies in North America through out that year (the crash didn't affect Japan).
The crash was also caused by an over-saturization of the market by many game consoles, and mediocre came creating disinterest within the consumer.
In 1984, almost no games were made due to many companies trying to distance themselves from the industry.
Granted there was much less games put out on the 2600 in 1984 there was still around 30 or so put out. And then you have to count the games put out on the 5200 and you should also take into consideration that the Atari St came out in 1985. Seems to me that they were just trying to convert people to computer consoles. And I am not including all the games made for other consoles and arcades. Call it what you want, but they should have named it something else other than crash.
Also, search "list of video games released in 1984". You will see hundreds of games released. And regardless of what was released and the "crash". The author of this video never replied to if he beat the game ET or not. So I will ask you. Have you beat ET? What is your lowest time?
The games released in 84 were Computer games as the crash did not affect the computer market (as they were labeled as "Simulations" not games). Only the home console market was affected in the US.
23 in '84 while 43 were produced in '83. That doesn't mean they sold in great numbers. Look at the game Shenmue on dreamcast. Alot of copies were produced but not alot were sold.
Look at the other consoles as well. The 3rd party developers that went bankrupt.
Wow I got told to shut the fuck up from a guy that captures his footage with an unregistered version of Hypercam 2. Suck a fart out of my asshole, bitch. And learn how to play ET you sound like a fag that didn't take the time to read the instruction manual. Now have some fucking manners you twit the adults are talking.
So let me get this straight, you are refusing to believe that the video game crash ever happened, although a bunch of users are trying to tell you the truth, then you get onto me because I think it's a rip to pay money to register a damned screen recorder to remove a watermark? THEN you get onto me about ET, although I made no mention of it. I think it's a "meh" game, and you are simply too arrogant to believe that the game market crashed. Look it up on Wikipedia before you start talking shit
No you have it all wrong. I am saying that in order for there to be a "crash" the market has to come to a complete stop. In other words NO games would have been put out. If you read the comments you would understand. Wikipedia can be edited. And any moron with out proper knowledge will believe it as truth. But you should head over to Atariage and look up the ET manual so you can beat the game before crying about it on video.
I never said I didn't beat it, I just don't care to. It's far from my favorite games, and that was just a name they put up for it made some sense. Don't argue with the name, because that's plain stupid.
You haven't beat ET because you fail at gaming. Really you should be ashamed of yourself for not being able to beat a 25 year old game that only takes 5-10 minutes to beat. You need to read back your comments before posting them. You are trying to say that arguing with the name is stupid yet there was games put out in 1984. So get your head out of your ass and do some real research and beat ET.
You don't need to say it. Your pathetic video of you crying like a little bitch is enough. You will never beat ET because you fail as a gamer and most likely at life. I beat the game on a REAL Atari 2600 when I was 7. Learn to read an instruction manual. Wow bud you are a real winner bitching about something that you know nothing about lol. Go play your emulators.
I DO have a real Atari 2600. It's a 4-switch woodgrain model.
I said it was a crappy game, and it is, but it's an ok-to-play if you read the manual. Just after I made the video, I decided to look up a bit on it.
Don't judge a book by it's cover. I could beat ET easy if I really wated to, and I planned on buying it soon, but by the looks of the losers who actually enjoy the game, I'm having second thoughts. That video was to show a bug in the emulator.
See now this is why no one subs to your channel man. You are going around implying things and being a jerk. Your burning bridges instead of talking like a civilized being. Let me tell you what I enjoy about E.T. I enjoy that I can put the cart in once every year or so and beat the piss out the game after not playing it for a year or longer. It gives me a quick laugh and that is it. Implying that some one is a loser just because they found something to do with their time is fail.
One last thing, I have decided to be a mite funnier, and evertually buy and review ET, and be a bit better.
Now, if this argument is over, the glitch exists in only 2 games I've tested, both of which are commercial failures, ET and Pac-Man, just in Pac-Man, you can hit it at the right time and ruin the game, otherwise you can just keep playing.
Now, I'm in a very poor mood due to my computer's many malfunctions.
Your identification of the 6532 is incorrect. Here is a breakdown with their comus names: 6820 = PIA (Motorola) 6821 = PIA (Motorola) 6521 = PIA (MOSTek clone) 6522 = VIA (Versatile Interface Adapter) 6523 = TPI (Tri-port Interface; Commodore) 6525 = TPI 6526 = CIA (Complex Interface Adapter; Commodore) 6530 = RRIOT (ROM, RAM, I/O, Timers) 6532 = RIOT (RAM, I/O, Timers) 8502A = CPU (6510A refabricated in HMOS technology) 8520 = CIA (6526 refabricated in HMOS, with some bugs fixed)
That's wierd. For the "original" Atari he used a four-switch (later generation) 2600, not even the first gen Heavy-Sixer model. And then his "repackaged as the newer 2600" system is the 2600 Jr., a later reproduction of the original 2600 hardware.
I notice a couple people ragging on the Atari. It may look horribly dated now, but you have to realize that at the time the 2600 came out, home video games were even more primitive. Either they were pong variations, or you had to stick a plastic sheet on the TV to provide the playfield.
The 2600 was the first. popular cart based system that generated full game graphics itself. It had joysticks, paddles, keyboard controllers, a trakball, tape-loaded games (Supercharger) and more.
Interesting tear down, but two things are wrong in the pre-tear down commentary. The 2600 Pac Man was awful and not loved or fun for anyone. It's the second most hated 2600 game next to E.T. Also, as loport pointed out the U.S. game market was dead prior to the Nintendo Entertainment System coming out. Nintendo took a gamble by seeing if their Famicom system would float in the U.S.; if it failed it was no big deal since the Asian market was still fine. And the rest is history.
millipede and rive raid were my fave games for the classic 2600, i still play them today albeit by emulation. good old days of video gameing really were good old days.
I still have my working original 2600, complete with joysticks, paddles and games....including ET. LOL. And yes, it does still work! I've rebuilt the joysticks about 22 billion times..lol.
It's mine for keeps! It's wrapped in a ziplock bag with moisture bags and out of the sun. Pretty cool, I really wish that I could have it out for display, but even just the dirty air will ruin the contacts.
Ohhh,wasn't telling you too sell it...just that its more valuble now then when it came out...I'll never sell my Atari Jaguar either...still playing on it hehe
The Flashback PCB is hard to mess with. Not much can be done to hack it down, but it could have been designed much smaller than it is if they wanted it to be.
The both the original 2600 and the Flashback 2 pcbs are oversized, actually. The original 2600 pcb can be cut into a 4" x 4" square around the three chips and the cart slot, and with very very few components added on, you still have a 100% functional 2600 (with composite video... most of that outer stuff is RF circuitry). It can actually be redesigned to be half that size using the original chips and still work perfectly. I've designed such a PCB, but I haven't yet built it.
MOS changed its name to CSG eventually, as they'd been owned by Commodore for some time by then. If I recall, Tramiel purchased MOS shortly after they introduced the KIM-1. He did this out his lessons learned with Texas Instruments back when his bread and butter was calculators.
MOS made many of the chips that were popular back in the golden age of 8-bit. Well, except for the Z-80. Haha.
Yep. TI shook out the calculator market in the same way Tramiel shook out the video game market.
That, and the deluge of horrible games from people who had no business making video games, such as Thorn EMI Video and Quaker Oats, were factors leading to the crash.
The 5200 controller doesn't work. Pretty much ever. And the ports were not standard, so third party options werel imited. And bigger does not make better.
The size of a console does not determine it's worth. Nor does "more box" or 1980's design. The value of a console is in it's library, and functionality which the 5200 lacked the latter of.
They should have torn down the original 1977 Atari 2600, than the differences would have been even greater. The Atari 2600 Junior existed in the middle of the original, and flashback, so the differences were cut in half. The junior itself was so much smaller than the original.
pfft like you know that I don't know more. ;) Were they really trying to do a 'clean room' teardown? Why not actually count the number of pins going to the cartridge? Why not realize that the RIOT chip RAM is used by the CPU? The specs are publicly available. I know it was all tongue in cheek but they could have tried just a little bit harder.
Supposedly it's not an emulation at all, but the actual games on replicated hardware. I saw I site where this kid shows how to mod the flashback 2 so that it will actually play 2600 cartriges. Flashback 1 was emulated and that's why it's so buggy.
Even though the Atari 2600 was released 30 years ago, dozens of new games have been developed in the last few years. Despite its limitations, the 2600's hardware is amazingly flexible, and so new programming techniques are still being discovered.
For me Pacman (the 2600 version) sucked way more than E.T.
zombee38 3 days ago
New one is so small why'd they make a big box for it
tradecycles 6 months ago
Superb video. I love microconductors .
tradecycles 9 months ago
if ET is such a awful game, don't play it and let ET say in the pit.... also work on your camera work...
averagemale2000 11 months ago
It's fascinating how you can put more and more data onto smaller and smaller storage devices, such as the Atari Flashback 2. Sometimes it feels like people take it for granted.
TheDevilbuster 1 year ago
pac man sucks too, ms pac man is awesome.
nice video
0M9H4X 1 year ago
Everybody talks trash about E.T., it really wasn't THAT bad. Look at most of the trash that was made for Atari back then and E.T. would look like a masterpiece.
cloob1 1 year ago
Sucks that the flashback don't play carts
Zambaku 1 year ago
errrr! wrong! ps3 an xbox 360 have a 2.4 ghz proccesor!
andthemouse 1 year ago
@andthemouse No the 360 has 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each.
The PS3 Has a PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz.
you sir, epic fail
funkymunky65 1 year ago
@funkymunky65 lol, epic fail indeed
MegaCasualgamer 1 year ago
umm. no. You can not directly compare clock frequency of two different cpu's when their architecture is so different. The 360 and PS3 have clock frequencies that are about 2000 times faster, but their cpu's are also many times more efficient at handling code than the atari's.
Per clock clycle the atari can handle 1, (if even that) line of code. The cpu in the PS3 per clock cycle can handle 14 or more lines of code.
Britishdude1 1 year ago
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Britishdude1 1 year ago
What i did was shoot mine with a pellet gun then use it agian on an old tv to see what didnt work
xXDylanGXx 1 year ago
atari flashback mod
wingnut4427 1 year ago
The NES did not dethrone Atari. Atari was on life support if not dead by the time the NES came out. This guy making the vid clearly was not alive during the 83' crash.
FreeLanceArizona 1 year ago
Your information is incorrect. The Atari 2600 could only see 4KB of RAM at any one time not 8KB as your video says. This is why some games towards the end of the life came with 16kb games using bank switching, four banks of 4kb each.
The Flashback console can't appect cartridges so you are basicallly stuck with the games that come with it which is not much considering you can fit the entire library of games onto one CD disc.
daro2096 1 year ago
@daro2096
CD disc?
CD= Compact Disc, you just said Compact Disc Disc
Zenoff64 1 year ago
@Zenoff64
Don't tell me you not done the same. lol
daro2096 1 year ago
Pac Man for the 2600 was camel shit too. I own a 7800 btw.
Skimaskkass 1 year ago
E.T. IMO wasn't a terrible game for Atari 2600. It wasn't great but people act like it was the worst game ever made and its not. IT had multiple screens, an ending, etc.
jimbox114 1 year ago
@jimbox114 ya superman for the 64 was the worst... my friend has it... (shiver)
thedarkholeconsumer 1 year ago
Nintendo didn't dethrone Atari. Atari barely existed by the time the NES came out. Nintendo made Video Games popular again. That's a better way of saying it.
RetroVGamer 2 years ago
atari existed the 7800 competed with the nes
seganerd89 1 year ago
@seganerd89 Yeah I know. I've been gaming for 30 years. Gimmie some credit. I said barely existed, as in no one cared about Atari anymore. Atari had been defeated by the industry in 83. So Nintendo wasn't responsible for dethroning Atari. Atari stopped being relevant years before NES. The NES actually dethroned the Sega Master System. Which was a formidable opponent, in terms of power at least.
RetroVGamer 1 year ago
The Atari flashback 2+ will come out in February.
dooglehead8 2 years ago
Hmm. My 2600 looks different, like the one in the picture of the nerdy kid.
TheLightningStalker 2 years ago
I think you could rework the script to use the phrase "to put it into perspective" a few more times. :D
boblowes 2 years ago
From these comments, I think ET is ready to make a comeback as a cult classic. Right on! It might suck, but it's way better than Bub & Bob.
HobbyistX 2 years ago
is ET on the Atari Flashback 2.0
ive seen the flashback for 29.99 at bestsku
i want to buy it just so i can play ET and see first hand what this game is like
andittellstime 2 years ago
play it right an E.T was`nt that bad.
adamyoshi 2 years ago 9
it sucked!
hamie96 2 years ago
I concur with that notion!
hexkwondo 2 years ago
@adamyoshi ET was the game often associated with spurring the video game crash... Few things beat being called the game that made people put down the controllers, and go back outside to rediscover Exercise.
Ddragggon 9 months ago
gimme an atari to coaxial box (or whatever it is...) and the ET cartridge, and i will last a week with that
I'm just saying that my video box or whatever it is broke, and ET is not a really bad game. Just ahead of its time.
Zvesda 2 years ago
even the people who made it said it was bad lol
brickman409 2 years ago
Zvesda, I wish I were as easily entertained as you!
ET is sited historically as one of the the worst games ever for the 2600 as well as one of the reasons the home gaming market crashed. It is pure shit.
HobbyistX 2 years ago
You think ET is bad?
just check out Action 52 for the NES
It's just a rare piece of donkey doodoo
Zvesda 2 years ago
I have it emulated on my Wii and I must say it isn't all that bad.
Minifig666 2 years ago
ET SUCKED BALLS
dryeraser123 2 years ago
Oh yeah how long does it take you to beat the game? I am at around 5 minutes or so.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
lol i do the same acdc
elvis1O1 2 years ago
i have this system!! i play it more than my 360 LOL
acdc1287 2 years ago 16
i ps2 and i play snes and nes way more XD
dryeraser123 2 years ago 2
Awesome video but why do you give ET so much hate? Have you even beat the game? Getting ET out of the pits is really easy. Just do it nice and slow.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
The game crashed the video game market in 1983. Its so bad, Atari had to smash the cartridges that weren't sold and bury them in concrete
scarmullet 2 years ago
I suggest you don't believe every thing you hear scarmullet. There was no video game crash of 1983. Do you even know how many games came out in 1983? Try doing some research. Just because Atari fucked up by manufacturing too many copies of ET dose not mean the video game market crashed. They fucked up and a couple of very small companies messed up as well. But that doesn't mean anything! Video game companies go out of business all the time.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
The crash occurred in the winter of 1983, but it did not take its toll till January 1984. In 1984, close to 90% of the game creating companies in North America through out that year (the crash didn't affect Japan).
The crash was also caused by an over-saturization of the market by many game consoles, and mediocre came creating disinterest within the consumer.
In 1984, almost no games were made due to many companies trying to distance themselves from the industry.
scarmullet 2 years ago
Granted there was much less games put out on the 2600 in 1984 there was still around 30 or so put out. And then you have to count the games put out on the 5200 and you should also take into consideration that the Atari St came out in 1985. Seems to me that they were just trying to convert people to computer consoles. And I am not including all the games made for other consoles and arcades. Call it what you want, but they should have named it something else other than crash.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
Also, search "list of video games released in 1984". You will see hundreds of games released. And regardless of what was released and the "crash". The author of this video never replied to if he beat the game ET or not. So I will ask you. Have you beat ET? What is your lowest time?
sinistermoon 2 years ago
I played it, got frustrated, and said fuck it.
The games released in 84 were Computer games as the crash did not affect the computer market (as they were labeled as "Simulations" not games). Only the home console market was affected in the US.
scarmullet 2 years ago
That is incorrect. I counted like 23 Atari 2600 games released in 1984 alone. Like I said do the research. I have no reason to lie to you.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
23 in '84 while 43 were produced in '83. That doesn't mean they sold in great numbers. Look at the game Shenmue on dreamcast. Alot of copies were produced but not alot were sold.
Look at the other consoles as well. The 3rd party developers that went bankrupt.
scarmullet 2 years ago
STFU Sinistermoon
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
Wow I got told to shut the fuck up from a guy that captures his footage with an unregistered version of Hypercam 2. Suck a fart out of my asshole, bitch. And learn how to play ET you sound like a fag that didn't take the time to read the instruction manual. Now have some fucking manners you twit the adults are talking.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
So let me get this straight, you are refusing to believe that the video game crash ever happened, although a bunch of users are trying to tell you the truth, then you get onto me because I think it's a rip to pay money to register a damned screen recorder to remove a watermark? THEN you get onto me about ET, although I made no mention of it. I think it's a "meh" game, and you are simply too arrogant to believe that the game market crashed. Look it up on Wikipedia before you start talking shit
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
No you have it all wrong. I am saying that in order for there to be a "crash" the market has to come to a complete stop. In other words NO games would have been put out. If you read the comments you would understand. Wikipedia can be edited. And any moron with out proper knowledge will believe it as truth. But you should head over to Atariage and look up the ET manual so you can beat the game before crying about it on video.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
I never said I didn't beat it, I just don't care to. It's far from my favorite games, and that was just a name they put up for it made some sense. Don't argue with the name, because that's plain stupid.
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
You haven't beat ET because you fail at gaming. Really you should be ashamed of yourself for not being able to beat a 25 year old game that only takes 5-10 minutes to beat. You need to read back your comments before posting them. You are trying to say that arguing with the name is stupid yet there was games put out in 1984. So get your head out of your ass and do some real research and beat ET.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
I never said I couldn't beat ET, I just don't want to. I've got better things to do.
Considering the fact that you're 28, so should you.
I don't care if games were put out that year, they just didn't sell well.
Also, I'm not a little kid. Little kid is 4-9 years old.
And you're still arguing with the name, so shut up and find something better to do!
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
You don't need to say it. Your pathetic video of you crying like a little bitch is enough. You will never beat ET because you fail as a gamer and most likely at life. I beat the game on a REAL Atari 2600 when I was 7. Learn to read an instruction manual. Wow bud you are a real winner bitching about something that you know nothing about lol. Go play your emulators.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
I DO have a real Atari 2600. It's a 4-switch woodgrain model.
I said it was a crappy game, and it is, but it's an ok-to-play if you read the manual. Just after I made the video, I decided to look up a bit on it.
Don't judge a book by it's cover. I could beat ET easy if I really wated to, and I planned on buying it soon, but by the looks of the losers who actually enjoy the game, I'm having second thoughts. That video was to show a bug in the emulator.
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
See now this is why no one subs to your channel man. You are going around implying things and being a jerk. Your burning bridges instead of talking like a civilized being. Let me tell you what I enjoy about E.T. I enjoy that I can put the cart in once every year or so and beat the piss out the game after not playing it for a year or longer. It gives me a quick laugh and that is it. Implying that some one is a loser just because they found something to do with their time is fail.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
And if you are done with your ifs and buts then I would love to hear more about the glitch you found.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
One last thing, I have decided to be a mite funnier, and evertually buy and review ET, and be a bit better.
Now, if this argument is over, the glitch exists in only 2 games I've tested, both of which are commercial failures, ET and Pac-Man, just in Pac-Man, you can hit it at the right time and ruin the game, otherwise you can just keep playing.
Now, I'm in a very poor mood due to my computer's many malfunctions.
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
i have that same system :)
dryeraser123 2 years ago
The woodgrain 4-switch? Awesome. I think that's the most common model.
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
i agree
Supersonic1128 2 years ago
Thank you
TKTannerman89 2 years ago
You agree because you have been spoon fed all your information by morons. You seem pretty cool for a little kid so I will leave you alone.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
Nobody said you couldn't beat it...
Dnt be a dick...
congrats on beating it:)
dryeraser123 2 years ago
"Wait...E.T.? That game sucked! Anyway..."
ROFL
TheGeek1028 2 years ago
ummmm ya u can. its the same board. I already did it.
marceloyanez111 2 years ago 2
can you hack up a flashback 2 to run Atari 2600 carts?
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fibaTELLEM 2 years ago
lol
123456nfsuc 2 years ago
Well done. Very interesting.
poshko41 2 years ago
lol, i have a xilinx fpga
jmmt47 2 years ago
PAC MAN on the 2600 Sucked too NOTHING like the Arcade version. Pac Man Knock offs were more like the arcade Pac Man.
The Atari Flash Back was an emulator, it was not the 2600 hardware packed into 1 or 2 chips.
dallase1 3 years ago
It wasn't but it had the same amount of power or better.
BroiledVictory 2 years ago
the first one looked just like a ps3
ninjadude326 3 years ago
ROFL... what PS3 u been playing?
boobookeys19 2 years ago
Thing is that wasn't even the biggest one!
he should've found a heavy sixer!
IamPersonMan 3 years ago
Methinks ET wasn't on the collection because of a licensing issue, rather than the fact it was shit.
ScrewAttackEurope 3 years ago
all this talk about how aweful E.T. was makes me want to own a copy :D
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
it wouldn't make a bad 2.5 Hard drive enclosure. Who would know ? Who would want to steal it ? lol
wingnut4427 2 years ago
hoser4 3 years ago 2
I believe it's actually "Legacy Engineering", who created the Flashback 2.
MattelAquarius 3 years ago
my damn flashback 2 exploded
AmericasZeldafan 3 years ago
If your 2600 exploded, the explsion would be bigger!
MarioWars 3 years ago
That's wierd. For the "original" Atari he used a four-switch (later generation) 2600, not even the first gen Heavy-Sixer model. And then his "repackaged as the newer 2600" system is the 2600 Jr., a later reproduction of the original 2600 hardware.
SkooterMcFly 3 years ago
That's a very good presentation!! Well, explained regarding the various concepts involving the circuit design and functionality.
thompson777 3 years ago
that was a 2600 Jr.
icecubeclock 3 years ago
thank god for newer tech, and smart people and for inovation !!!!
and japanese people !
frvfilms 3 years ago
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Packman 4 the 2600 also sucked.
robdun 3 years ago
Most 2600 remake of arcade games sucked graphics wise, I would rather pay the quarter per game in the old arcades, if only I could find one...
xXJacobBuckXx 3 years ago
Here, here. It wasn't until the 1990's on PCs and the consoles of the era that home-based gaming could at least come close to the Arcade versions.
Hotshotter3000 3 years ago
i think there were some decent arcade ports for colecovision
ericaesop 3 years ago
I wish there were the original arcades.
I searched forever than found that they still exist but mainly in collages, some museums and at the millitary bases.
robdun 3 years ago
without it, the ps3,wii,and 360 wouldnt be here!
tamagotchikid 3 years ago 2
But Ms. Pacman and Jr. Pacman ruled!
RunandGunPictures 3 years ago
"To put it into perspective..."
ra7thsign 3 years ago
I notice a couple people ragging on the Atari. It may look horribly dated now, but you have to realize that at the time the 2600 came out, home video games were even more primitive. Either they were pong variations, or you had to stick a plastic sheet on the TV to provide the playfield.
The 2600 was the first. popular cart based system that generated full game graphics itself. It had joysticks, paddles, keyboard controllers, a trakball, tape-loaded games (Supercharger) and more.
lurkerrekrul 3 years ago
At 0:40 his fingers look so wierd, like they're joined or something.
ryken102 3 years ago
Interesting tear down, but two things are wrong in the pre-tear down commentary. The 2600 Pac Man was awful and not loved or fun for anyone. It's the second most hated 2600 game next to E.T. Also, as loport pointed out the U.S. game market was dead prior to the Nintendo Entertainment System coming out. Nintendo took a gamble by seeing if their Famicom system would float in the U.S.; if it failed it was no big deal since the Asian market was still fine. And the rest is history.
JackSzwergold 3 years ago
Nintendo "dethroned" Atari? Uh, the 2600 and the American video game market in general was already DEAD when the NES came along.
ioport 3 years ago
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Jesus Christ
bobgwweb 3 years ago
millipede and rive raid were my fave games for the classic 2600, i still play them today albeit by emulation. good old days of video gameing really were good old days.
bazfanv2 3 years ago
0:23 LOL
natemarveldude 3 years ago
I still have my working original 2600, complete with joysticks, paddles and games....including ET. LOL. And yes, it does still work! I've rebuilt the joysticks about 22 billion times..lol.
VicFetters 3 years ago 2
you know....a original Atari 2600 in working order can fetch a nice price on Ebay hehe
Dalbert342 3 years ago
It's mine for keeps! It's wrapped in a ziplock bag with moisture bags and out of the sun. Pretty cool, I really wish that I could have it out for display, but even just the dirty air will ruin the contacts.
VicFetters 3 years ago
Ohhh,wasn't telling you too sell it...just that its more valuble now then when it came out...I'll never sell my Atari Jaguar either...still playing on it hehe
Dalbert342 3 years ago
I knew what you were saying.
Keep ahold of yours too, you watch, they're going to be worth some money!
VicFetters 3 years ago
I have the Flashback 2 and it is the best thing I ever bought! Yars Revenge and River Raid are my two favorites, woo hoo!
KevyNova 3 years ago
wow, consumer grade resistors on that thing.
alphamone 3 years ago
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GEEEK!
burlydinko 4 years ago
this geek as you call him is explaining what makes it possible to let you go home and play on your ps3, be grateful!!!!
olidude7 4 years ago 3
he must be a dumbass jock
ZcSoldierRS 4 years ago 3
just a little bit faster at 3.2 ghz lol
darkarsenal66 4 years ago 4
defender is better than q-bert. wtf?
ivanjatson2 4 years ago
2600 version of Pac-Man wasn't bashed along with ET. Come on now..
Squirrel3D 4 years ago 4
yea that ET game does suck!!
jaredbrk 4 years ago 8
E.T. better phone home then!
flipponzin24 3 years ago
teardown a nintendo entertainment system
One3teen 4 years ago 4
I used to do that all the time, had to just to keep that thing working.
Lynxan 3 years ago
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Saw this on GAME MAKERS with a better narration voice.
hootyhaha 4 years ago
i have Atari Flashback 2 tjhe best game on it is save mary
FreakofNouture 4 years ago
The Flashback PCB is hard to mess with. Not much can be done to hack it down, but it could have been designed much smaller than it is if they wanted it to be.
ElectricRain0 4 years ago
it can be hacked to have a cart port, i would do it but i dont need a fb2 i got a a7800
ericaesop 3 years ago
The both the original 2600 and the Flashback 2 pcbs are oversized, actually. The original 2600 pcb can be cut into a 4" x 4" square around the three chips and the cart slot, and with very very few components added on, you still have a 100% functional 2600 (with composite video... most of that outer stuff is RF circuitry). It can actually be redesigned to be half that size using the original chips and still work perfectly. I've designed such a PCB, but I haven't yet built it.
ElectricRain0 4 years ago
UMC didn't invent these chips. They were only the fab company commissioned to manufacture them late in the 2600's life.
They were developed by Atari and originally manufactured by MOS Technologies, the company that created the 6502 CPU.
Just FYI.
CoyoteSeven 4 years ago
To add: MOS made the 6507, which is the CPU used in the 2600 and is essentially a 6502 with some features omitted to cut costs.
MOS also made the 6532, another vital chip in the 2600 which is shown here as the UM6532.
You may note that the two UMC chips were both made under license using designs from MOS/CSG (Commodore Semiconductor Group ... yes, THAT Commodore).
The other shocker: the NES/Famicom also ran on a variant of the MOS 6502 that was fabricated by Ricoh.
Watcher3223 4 years ago
MOS changed its name to CSG eventually, as they'd been owned by Commodore for some time by then. If I recall, Tramiel purchased MOS shortly after they introduced the KIM-1. He did this out his lessons learned with Texas Instruments back when his bread and butter was calculators.
MOS made many of the chips that were popular back in the golden age of 8-bit. Well, except for the Z-80. Haha.
CoyoteSeven 4 years ago
Yep. TI shook out the calculator market in the same way Tramiel shook out the video game market.
That, and the deluge of horrible games from people who had no business making video games, such as Thorn EMI Video and Quaker Oats, were factors leading to the crash.
Watcher3223 4 years ago
You guys should do a tear-down of a playstation 1
skie8r 4 years ago
Tear down a C64. sid chip classic
Synthersizer 4 years ago
Its Legacy Engineering, not Legendary Engineering.
e2museum 4 years ago
Good, but still quite a few technical errors. Some glaring some subtle.
Kg277 4 years ago
I shall now be purchasing a Flashback 2. Classic gaming FTW!!!
tigerdirectz 4 years ago
Very nice :)
Intosia 4 years ago
5200 controller was huge and so was the system but the problem with that controller that it didn't work.
IMiggsI 4 years ago
You could get the atari hardware smaller than that mobile phones have bettr graphics hardware.
cgman2 4 years ago
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sinistermoon 4 years ago
5800?
ericaesop 3 years ago
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sinistermoon 3 years ago
Since the components were all 'off the shelf' anybody could (and did) make 2600 games. Heck, even Quaker Oats made 2600 games!
edsoliz 4 years ago
ET!?!!?!?! A HIT!!! no way man, they had like land fills with et in them. i played it!, emulated. it really does suck
markleslierobert 4 years ago
E.T. sucks.
sjokoland1 4 years ago
Yes, and so did the 2600 version of Pac-Man. Such games led to the Video Game Crash of 1983.
NinjaGhostScorpion 4 years ago
yea and the 2600.
5200 is better
sjokoland1 4 years ago
You can't call a game system with no controller functionality better.
Artimage84 4 years ago
the 5200 controller is better and bigger than 2600
sjokoland1 4 years ago
The 5200 controller doesn't work. Pretty much ever. And the ports were not standard, so third party options werel imited. And bigger does not make better.
Artimage84 4 years ago
no. bigger and more box and 1980s desien is better.
sjokoland1 4 years ago
The size of a console does not determine it's worth. Nor does "more box" or 1980's design. The value of a console is in it's library, and functionality which the 5200 lacked the latter of.
Artimage84 4 years ago
et on 2600 is the worst game ever
linker704 4 years ago
et did suck i damn pit
gamer2502 4 years ago
Wow I remember all of that. So cooooollll.
--God Bless--
Danieltheartist 4 years ago
I enjoy green things with sauder attached to it.
Thanks for asking.
onklsven75 4 years ago
Cool stuff! I want one of those atari flashbacks. Do they still sell them?
Msdos4 4 years ago
I wish you could have picked up a original late 70's "heavy sixer" 2600 and compared that to the 1986 "2600 Junior" and Flashback II.
wildbilltexas 4 years ago
i had a 2600 shame my fucking mum threw it out FUCK
jackisdabomb 4 years ago
SWEET. Thanks man!
mattnova18 4 years ago
UMC manufactured the ICs, but the TIA was of Atari/CYAN design. The PIA and 6507 came from MOS.
nitewaves77 4 years ago
They should have torn down the original 1977 Atari 2600, than the differences would have been even greater. The Atari 2600 Junior existed in the middle of the original, and flashback, so the differences were cut in half. The junior itself was so much smaller than the original.
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Houminid 4 years ago
Yeah, E.T. sucks.
HumanTurkey 4 years ago
geeeze I hated it when ET fel into those pits
Networkxxiii 4 years ago
i enjoy watching these tear downs they r great thanks
jameslinton50 4 years ago
wow this technology is insane lolz i got an atari flashback
crash544 4 years ago
Omg you guys sound so GEEK
jvc85 4 years ago
umm...this is a teardown what did you expect?
borandosthered 4 years ago
To put it into perspective, you should've at least read the Wikipedia before you made this video...
djmips 4 years ago
pfft like you know more. The only thing that I would change is that its a 2600jr :P which was really cheap.
theSCgosu 4 years ago
pfft like you know that I don't know more. ;) Were they really trying to do a 'clean room' teardown? Why not actually count the number of pins going to the cartridge? Why not realize that the RIOT chip RAM is used by the CPU? The specs are publicly available. I know it was all tongue in cheek but they could have tried just a little bit harder.
djmips 4 years ago
:D i didnt
theSCgosu 4 years ago
I should get a flashback 2, does it accurately emulate the 2600?
Gravy2468 4 years ago
Supposedly it's not an emulation at all, but the actual games on replicated hardware. I saw I site where this kid shows how to mod the flashback 2 so that it will actually play 2600 cartriges. Flashback 1 was emulated and that's why it's so buggy.
toptenmaterial 4 years ago
Even though the Atari 2600 was released 30 years ago, dozens of new games have been developed in the last few years. Despite its limitations, the 2600's hardware is amazingly flexible, and so new programming techniques are still being discovered.
supercat5 4 years ago