i just want to say that thought the word wicca used to mean and still can mean male wise person (male witch) but now since gardner chopped it up it is NOW a new religion almost entirely derived from witchcraft. eclectic, celtic, fairie, anything not traditional (wicca) is also even newer so it is the newest religion. witchcraft is similar but much much older. please like this so it doesnt get lost in pages. i was trying to keep it short?!
I am a Witch and I am Pagan but I am not Wiccan. To be Wiccan means to adhere under the terms of the Wiccan rede and 13 amendments. Something I can not do because I have met far too many Wiccan's that chants the rede but do not follow it. I have been robbed by Wiccans, even stealing my holy itams and take advantage of my services. There is one Wiccan in Tucson AZ that claims to be a high priest and yet demansd his members to sleep with him. This is why I can not claim myself Wiccan.
Oh my Goddess!!! People get the hang of it! Our whole goal in this religion is to attempt to get closer to the Old Ways. Well guess what! The Old Ways didn't have anything called Wicca least of all their religion!!! Show thanks to the word for making it so we could be accepted by the government I suppose, BUT KNOW THAT YOU'RE REALLY A WITCH AND THAT'S THAT!!! Blessed be! )O(
I think the word Wicca/Wiccan is use to make the word "Witch" not sound scary and to be more accepting.... Personal I don't mind being called The Witch!! )0(
These are just naive kids who truly think they know everything but can't tell the difference between scratching their watches or winding their butts....Today's generation doesn't have self respect,much less have respect for others.Kids keep watching videos,READ and maybe you will learn something beside talking about things you know nothing about. @ Laurie,You are a wonderful teacher,a great example of what a True Witch is, and always should be.Brightest Blessings as always in love & light ☽✪☾
I just found this video, and I am ASHAMED anyone would talk that way to an elder. Regardless of whether or not you agree with her about the word wicca and its meaning, no one should ever speak to an elder of the faith that way. If no one knows, Laurie Cabot IS one of our faiths founders. She is due our respect. You may not agree with her, but if you truly did your history and research, you would see that her opinion is truly what things were/are like.
Ms Cabot is correct and being a Witch over Fifty she comes from a different age. I understand that out of Gerald Gardners and Doreen Valientes corroboration was born a new Witch cult called Wicca but history is history kids. Hit the link to know more.
Well, wicca now means a religion, so your really just going to have to get over it. fact of the matter is words change meaning all the time and can change how we apply them also. i do agree however that maybe the religion should have found a better word to suit it, honestly though its to late for it to change and the way we see the word will never be the same again, so why not embraces it and teach how the word came about and the changes it went through, rather then try to change it back.
@Shadowp03 Wicca now mean a lot of things but not one specific religion. There is no accepted practice or liturgy, but I agree with you on the fact that it has become a term that encompasses many thing including Witches. What I do not need to do is to lose the focus of my own tradition, we are part of the Wiccan community. Keep in mind that I was one of the first Witches, not Celtic priestess or anything else when I came into the public view. That was what changed the way of things in the US
Greetings Laurie, I had read alot of books on the subject of Witchcraft, as I had read yours. I would like to continue down the path of witchcraft, I am hoping your knowledge could guide me to some teachers my question would be how do I find a good teacher? Thank you in advanced and Brightest Blessings )0(
I agree with you i still think you have a very good point on the subject that we arent neccassarily wiccans, we are witches.And for all those that are upset with her, think she spent all 70 years of her life bringing the word "witch" into a good word meaning "wise woman" or "wise man".
she still has valid points and spends her time teaching new witches. )0(
Actually, there are some people who are Wiccan but are not Witches, they simply follow the religion. On the contrary, there are some Witches who practice Witchcraft but do not worhship a Goddess or God.
The Religion of Wicca was founded by Gerald Gardner as that name, Wicca. Regardless of the meaning of the word. Pagan is an umbrella term, but people identify as Pagan meaning as a form of Witchcraft.
all labels have the same problem: they are stifling and inaccurate. I have personal experience with this because of my sexuality. The reason why no 2 Wiccan have the exact same beliefs is because no 2 people hav the exact same interpretations on life. No 2 people hav had the exact same life-shaping experiences as another. Some incorporate logic in2 thier philosophies and some more emotional and 'sensing.' No matter what our beliefs we can all band 2gether and stand up for our right 2 believe.
I'm with Laurie Cabot...whatever I practice, I just KNOW I'm a witch, through and through, balls to bones, as they say in Matrix. What I've sensed though is that the word "Wicca" applies more to witches that work with the Celtic pantheon, strictly, but "on their own", without following the jerarchy of druids. I work with the roman-greek pantheon mostly, however, I can't consider myself as a follower of that religion either, because I worship as I feel, not as it was...so, what am I? I'm a witch
The word Witch is such an amazing word and all Witches should be proud to be called so. I have a friend and she doesn't want to be called so. She tells me 'I hate the word Witch I call myself a Wiccan' for me it's just a word the importance is how you feel inside and how you practice you beliefs. I love being called a Witch and I am very proud to be one. In my language, Maltese, is called "Sahhara" and it's just beautiful I love it :) so just be proud of who you are and not how you are called x
The Wiccan religion as promoted by Gardner has beliefs and an origin that is based in alot of lies and the disproven research of Margaret Murray. His claims of discovering an underground witch-cult that has existed for centuries and worshiped a horned god is just a complete falsehood. It may be a legitamate reconstruction of certain pagan beliefs but thats all. There was no secret coven that had existed for hundreds of years.
@fabtastic2 Much of what Gardner did was based in forms of Witchcraft to which he added many things on his own. Margaret Murray seemed to want to find research that supported her conclusions and stretch the truth when it was most effective for her point of view. She'd fit quite well in today's political landscape. The Cabot Tradition and the Cabot Kent Hermetic Temple are not based on Gardner in any way. We teach using experience not belief and think by philosophy not dogma.
I don't believe Laurie is intending to "bash" anyone. Wicca is technically a tradition now, and I think that what she is trying to say is that many Wiccans, not all, have a misunderstanding of their own religion. I honestly feel that Wicca is a great doorway into the past and present ways of a witch, but it only scratches the surface. Many Wiccans that I talk to believe that Wicca has been around for centuries and will literally fight you over it; those people are stuck-longing to fit in.
@MojoPyxyiKiza But yes, Laurie Cabot is an amazing person, and has extreme passion for what she does, and i soon seek to be that one day. A model for the witch community, she is.
I so agree with you that Wicca is not a religion. During my sabbats i only celebrate the seasonal changes and not lives of any gods or goddesses. But i have god and goddeses 12 in total and i honor goddess at full moon. I just dont use the stories for example at beltane the god and goddess have union. I do not beleive they are superior to us, i beleive we are equal.
@XthunderclapzapX The search for the recognizable beginnings of Witches is being pursued by the English scholar Stephen J Yeates. He and many others all define the word as such, I have a more detailed blog on this in my notes on the Cabot Temple Hermetic site on Facebook if you want more details.
THIS is what everyone is throwing a tantrum about? She's not saying there's no Pagan religion being practiced, she's saying calling it "Wicca" is the wrong name. "Wicca" means "male witch" and is not a good description for religious Witchcraft.
She's not saying "Wicca isn't a religion," she's saying "Wicca isn't the proper name for the religion we practice." Gardner never meant to name his religion "Wicca." Grow up, people, and stop attack her over this, she's right.
i see nothing wrong with what Laurie said in this video. If anything, she is trying to encourage some of you to think different and I see no harm in that.
Ms. Laurie, i think i understand what you mean. If you look at the christian denominations, each are different, tru, but they all go by certain rules and bylaws. While Wiccan is a craft that can be changed inorder to suit the situation. Ms. Laurie is not really calling wicca Not an Religion, she is merely mentioning the difference between wicca and the other known relgions. Maybe the way she sentenced her thoughts had different effects on others because yu didnt think about the bigger picture
Laurie....i think i undersand what you meant by what you said, because Wiccan has many rites and rituals, in wihich you can change to fit your situation. While Catholism has their rules that seperates them from other Christian denomionations. Trust me at first I was a little suprised, but now, i can see the bigger picture. [= - meant no offence to anyone**
I love you Laurie, but you are dead wrong. Wicca is a religion. The Cabot Tradition is not Wicca. Let's not bash Wiccans just because Laurie isn't one.
I was going to use this clip on my blog, as I have used the others, but I can't because of the inaccurate info in this clip. Still love you though Laurie. :)
@BoyintheMachine Thank you and I certainly would never bash anyone. What I am interested in is the meaning behind the words. So far no one has yet to explain what this Wiccan religion is. What the rites are, the liturgy, the practices, where it comes from and have any two explanations be the same. The Baptists know what they believe and what sets them apart from the Catholics, Pagan groups know their specific history and practices. Please tell me what Wicca is.
@BoyintheMachine Laurie is actually 100% correct The Anglo saxon Wicca (pronounced weecha) the female Wicce ( Weechay) is a ancestor of the word Witch
The new word Wicca ( Pronounced Wikka) is a new word that did not gain use or popularity until the late 80s to early 90s really...Most of us old Witch's rarely used it. However it has taken hold and is now the common form although completely invented through its improper use.
I went to a Worskshop Laurie was giving on money spells earlier this month. I read her book when i was about 14 or 15. To young at the time to understand alot, but when i took the worskshop, i was enlightend, i took everything in and understood. LAURIE IS A WONDERFUL TEACHER!! She helped us get into ALPHA, and i felt so empowered, i never knew i had it in me. She has helped me look inside myself and be who i am without fear. THANK YOU LAURIE, LOVE YOU!!!
There's such a thing as Wicca, the religion. It's not about witches and it's not simply paganism. Yea, I find the religion stupid, much like most other religions, but that doesn't mean you can just denounce it and say it doesn't exist. People believe in it. There are wiccans. In fact, I used to have a few friends who were Wiccans, although they were using it mainly as an umbrella of sorts.
I identify myself as a Witch, but I don't mind others calling me a Wiccan, because it isn't really a negative word. It's just a misnomer that has become irreparably widespread.
Unless I missed something I dont understand what everyone is so worked up about. Laurie made a comment that Wicca is not a religion, what I got from that was that the WORD Wicca is not a religion and that in fact Wicca is Witchcraft but everyone accepts the word Wicca, probably because it has less stigma behind it, and so now we are all Wiccan instead of Witches.
@Syric80 That's exactly what I got from it as well. People are so quick to attack. Gerald Gardner is only made founder because he popularized the word. His teachings even came from someone else... way to confusing for me.... I like Laurie's input into the discussion she's right.
You know what!? Who are you to say what a religion is? It really annoys me when people like you open their mouth. Honestly If people would like to claim they are Wiccan, there is really nothing you can do to stop them. If the fandom of startreck , Harry Potter and Twilight , , because of their size, are now, considered or nearly considered religions, then who are you to say that witches cannot call the study of their craft the wiccan religion. A message from a proud WICCAN
@ktok13 I would never try to define anyone but neither will I allow myself to be defined incorrectly. To name something is to empower it. We are all free to believe in anything but like so many cults beliefs alone will not make it so.
How do you define your religious views as a proud Wiccan, what are your beliefs, your liturgy, practices? Do other Wiccans share that with you? Witchcraft is a system, all the parts function together, a car must have an engine to go, where is the Wicca engine?
@LaurieCabotOfficial Wicca is a religion, since Mr. Gardner bring us this new religion, based on the believe of a God and a Godness (female and male sides of the energy that create everything). In Wicca religion, we celebrate the Earth, the changes, and we use witchcraft too... you now very well all this things... so why you act this way? I don't understand... Wicca is a religion, like you or not... there's a lot of people that practice witchcraft that are not wiccans... but we are... millions
@Smeholeth Actually Garner practiced Witchcraft and added naturism to his tradition. I think it is very important for people to do the proper research, many of the things that "Wiccans" follow have their own tradition and their own names, it is vital for a complete understanding to dig into those roots. Gardner did not invent a new religion. If you think that you miss so much of what he or even Alexander were all about. There is profound beauty in the details of things
@ktok13 I find more concrete information about Star Trek than I find agreement between any two Wiccans. The reason is that there is a script and a history that can be verified. You know who all the crew members were and what happened. I would never try and tell anyone anything, but neither will I allow incorrect definitions to affect what we do. Anyone is free to believe as they wish, but as a teacher and a student of history lets use the correct words, those help everyone I think.
I am a witch not wiccan i follow the old ways of witchcraft. I have no law in my craft but if you want to be wiccan thats ok to, But i do side by laurie blessed be
I must say that youve had a lot of uneeded.. uncalled for.. and just plain, simple-minded responses to this video. I admire you and I agree that the the fabrication of the word wicca, now a days, provides for those who are scared to "fess up" about their craft a rope from on which they hold on to while those who embrace the word "witch" embrace with their all.. who dont care about being scorned, and less about diluting such a potent word.
There is no traditional witchcraft. What people call "Traditional Witchcraft" is actually folk magic. The witches that Chrsitians feared, never existed. The belief in a secret underground European paganism, never existed either. I love this type of stuff but there is a lot of misinformation being spread and it should be cleared up.
@Venustarr I have all of Garders books they are on the subject of witchcraft...the word Wica is used once in but one of them and yes it is spelled wica.
Well, I suppose that there are such things as Wiccans, if you are speaking old english. Male Witches. Female Witches are Wiccens. The term Witch is not gender specific. Great video. I am truly disgusted at all of the controversy this video has created. Everybody just needs to let everybody have their own beliefs.
Wasn't it scott cunnigham who first referred to his version of witchcraft as wicca (double c)? Weik? Where can I find a trustable resourse for all these "keltic language" connotations?
So wait, Lorie. You are saying that wicca is a term for a male witch? So Would I be considered as such? I 100% agree with you. I am a witch and damn it I am not a wiccan!
Most people use the term "Wicca" incorrectly. Doreen Valiente, Gardner's HPS, wrote in "The Derivation of the Word 'Witch'", "The real origin comes from the Indo-European word *weik,* which has a general connection with religion and magic ... This eventually produced the Old English *wicca,* a male witch, *wicce,* a female witch ... It will be seen from the above that 'Wicca' does not mean 'witchcraft' and never did, in spite of its widespread modern use." Laurie's correct; Webster confirms it.
I agree with parts. Gardner originally spelled the word Wica pronounced wick-uh which was a term for the Craft as a whole and where we get such lovely terms as "Wicaphobia". "Wicca" was originally pronounced "witch-uh." The Wiccan colloqualism I think is a product of publishers taking from Gardner's Wica and making Wicca.I think saying Witch is just easier but of course some people historically use this term to mean magician without religious context. Witchcraft to me is religious magick.
Official Retraction & Apology from Paula Forester & Carol Bulzone owner's of The Broomstick and youtube username broomstick02. I was away for a few days having surgery and unfortunately someone I "trusted' to upload to my account and hade my passwords posted horrible comments to this site and he 'disguised' himself as us. These comments did not originate from us or are endorsed by us. We have nothing but the utmost respect for Laurie, her trad. and her views. Man has been dealt w/ severely
Laurie, when I first met you in the late 70's you said you were an atheist. Your own daughter Penny (pencil) writes on her hubpages account "...and a practitioner of earth magic it is every wiccans duty to give something back to the earth". Are you telling HER there is no such thing as a Wiccan too? I fought the hard battle from the mid 70's on. I am an elder in the Craft and my true roots go back to Scotland. I am a Wiccan AND a Witch. To deny the word is to deny the religion. Offensive!
Forgive me but if you know me, then you know better than that. Why would a real activist hide behind cute internet names? Read my blogs about this subject or take a class. But for argument's sake, please describe exactly what the Wiccan religion is. What specific liturgy,practice, training, belief, not the 13 principles but what is behind them, or the Gardenarian use of the term, Baseball is a sport, but saying one plays sports does not give them much of an identity, wicca is the same.
Youa re flat out wrong about the entymology of the word Witch and obviously not familiar with MS Cabot's stance on Wicca alittle research would clarify things for you a lot. How do you define the Wiccan religion exactly? Is it the Gardenarian usage or the 13 principles? You do know that those are not the basis of a religion. If not that, where? Also why the rudeness, seems to me the Pagan, Wiccan, Witches have been helped by MS Cabot, what have you done?
@ThatKrazygirlie so then you said Ealaine Dubh means witch in Irish? it does not... Ealain is art and Dubh is black so it said black art.... not witch.
I got that from this web site...
(think I typed that all out right lol)
also found Cailleach Feasa or Bandraoi
Bana-Bhuidseach (witch)
however remember there are a few different dialects in Ireland to so witht he word Dubh, some say Duv and other say Dove..... but anyways... that is what I found....hope you like
I agree with you, althought Witchcraft/Wicca is often associated with the Irish (because of the red hair, green eyes and pale freckled skin) the word 'Witch' is not Irish. I should know I'm a red-haired, green eyed, pale freckle skinned Wiccan from Dublin, Ireland (And I don't know a single other Wiccan.)
And denying the existence of Wicca is offensive, wrong and could be taken much worse than I've taken it by some Wiccans.
@fifiballerinagirl16. IF you can explain to me specifically what a Wiccan is, other than a governmentally approved term I would be most pleased. What is the liturgy, what are the rites specifically? If you are Alexandrian, then so be it, a Cabot then so be it, most Pagans and even some Satanists are calling themselves Wiccan, which makes even less sense to me, but in truth many can fit under this umbrella, the term Wiccan tells me very little about anyone's belief.
Well, look at it this way; the word "Christian' means so many different things nowadays. It's an even bigger "umbrella" that Wicca. I believe it has to do with a person's own beliefs and thoughts. Wiccan beliefs vary markedly between different traditions, however various similarities exist between the various groups, which usually include views on theology, the afterlife, magic, morality and reverse reality.
I see great error in going to a less defined word, when there have been better ones out there for millenia. All who know me or my work, know I have fought for the rights of ALL religions in the US many are now called Wiccan as we dilute the words we lose the roots, the liturgy, the education and the power of a tradition, none of those traditions really needed a new name, yet we are all stuck with it for external reasons, I ask you, have we not been defined from the outside long enough?
Ms. Cabot, I do not have a problem with you saying that you do not believe in the term 'Wiccan' that's fine. I have mainly Catholic friends, living in Ireland and neither them nor I have any religious conflict. But to say there is no such thing as a Wiccan, and to almost undermine the beliefs of many, I shall find that offensive. I do not wish to argue with, or anger you, as I admire you in so many ways. So, I wish Threefold Blessings to you.
the younger generation just dont get it laurie.ive tried myself to explain,maybe you should explain it to them.they have no idea what it was like even in the 70's and 80's
I suppose I do believe in Wiccans... I am one myself, a male Witch. :D There are also Wiccens, female Witches. That is, if you are speaking old english. We, however, do not speak old English. Therefore, we are all Witches.
Maiaduir: This is very correct. AND it's not even pronounced like most people pronounce it. Wicca= (Witch-uh) NOT (Wik-uh). The term Wicca and Wicce are outdated. They are old English spellings and pronunciations. In this day and age and language, we are Witches.
Laurie has re-affirmed what I have told many people in the past. i am so happy she posted this video. Even in an inteview I gave to a local paper they improperly labeled witchcraft as "wicca" even though I explained the fact to the reporter.
I agree..."Wicca" in and of itself was not a religion until quite recently in history. Nobody in the old days called him or herself a "Wiccan". That's 20th century, I believe...right? It is a reconstruction. It is now recognized governmentally, that is true.
i think the information held in this video is very limited and has left much to personal interpritation, which is causeing misunderstandings from both sides.. please consider doing a more indepth video explaining what you mean and siting sorces.. many thanks
Yes quite right. I have found some confusion here between the 13 principles of Wicca and Gardner's use of the same sounding word Wica. I do not think the 13 princples were ever intented to be the foundation of a religion, rather than a convenience to protect a large community within governmental requirements, the armed forces and the US in general from the Christian propaganda that all were Satanists, killed children and the like. It was a huge problem in the US and still is.
You seem to be speaking for the many without any one solid example. To be Wiccan is now a legally accepted term. Under this massive umbrella is all sorts of things. In the last 2000 years I have not seen a Wiccan Tradition with all of the requirements to be a belief system or a philosophy listed anywhere. If so please educate me.
As far as making people believe, I teach the "Science" of the craft, there is no belief needed. Students leave me "doing" not believing.
I remember reading about this in "Power of the Witch" (the whole explanation) and just recently I started re-reading it to "freshen my mind" (I first read it more than 20 years ago). I do wish people would just read instead of watching a two-minute snippet and piling on.
I love these vids, hope there will be more!! Please put up more when you can. Thanks.
There is no hierarchy in Witchcraft other than initiate, priest/priestess then high priest/priestess and if one takes on a community role , Elder.
I was not aware that the majority of the Pagans disagreed with me, on what points exactly? Many great people have Magickal roots, that does not make them Witches, The practice we follow is Indo _European in origin, there is a strong Egyptian influence as well . We do not place ourselves higher than anyone, we follow a path born of our tradition.
Thank you for taking time to reply to me. Well they disagree with you on many many MANY points not the least this entire no such thing as Wicca. Now their may be no such thing as Wicca in the tradition you have created but that isn't to say that the Word isn't real or that the religion of Wicca doesn't exsist in a real sence. The saying is that all Wiccans are Witches but not all Witches are Wiccan. I agree that the two words are not really Interchangable just like Babtist and CHrisitan cont
Chrisitan are not really interchangable. Now for your tradition you have made and path its good for you but you can't try and force it onto all other Witches and by no means the religion of Wicca. Now I acknoledge what you have done for Pagan rights in the USA but that does not make you an expert on all of Wicca or Paganism (which I am not saying you claim) but you should not be making overarching claims as you have in this video since even your entomology is completly wrong cont....
wrong and misleading. Now I know this is a clip from a show and you were maybe simplifying it but its still is like a slap in the face to many many Wiccans and even witches out there (not saying you intended for it either) and you bascially saying their path and faith is just invalid. Once again that may of not been your intent but many do see it that way.
I am Pagan, and you sir do not speak for me, nor would a Christian ever speak for any of us. You are also clueless. Wicca, is a huge catchphrase it includes many people who have nothing in common. While the word has some interesting potential origins, there is no specific Wiccan religion found in history.
Shirotora1979 the way I do, clearly. He is a good person and means no harm, but yet I see you go out of your way to attack him without understanding him. Are you sure your not a Fundie yourself? Because the way you attacked Shirotora1979 is the same way I have seen fundie Christians attack thos that have a Pagan faith. Now how about reading his points rather then attack him for his chosen Religion.
I happen to agree. I am a witch. The word wicca is a term used and accepted because the word witch sounds so evil and is used in the bible against us.
I won't go any further, but I recommend having at least a basic knowledge of ancient history before committing your self to any form of pagan, neo pagan or spiritual practice...other wise your just going to look stupid when you meet someone who is on a similar path to you, but has actually done their own research and not been spoon fed.
i have a question.through all my research,i have not yet found a herb legally used here, that can help my back pain.ive practiced for twenty five years, and i still cant find a natural herb to stop horrible pain.i am taking my lortab from my doctor for neuropathy and several slipped disks. but i feel it henders me it my practice.I am going to be a doctor in four years, but i want a natural source, but if it has to be,ill keep taking my pills.the pain felt is suicidial.
the word witch is not a negative word..nor do witches practice or worship the devil or evil forces in any way shape or form..if you know someone practicing evil doings and calls themselves a witch...get away from them...they are not witches...witches do no harm to anyone..real witches know, anything you do to harm another will come back to you times 3....if you don't beleive me or laurie..go ahead and try it you foolish mortal. you will have to learn the truth the hard way.
everyone needs to learn the proper language of the witches..we are witches..not wiccans..and yes wicca is a male witch..I agree with laurie's video's on everything. She's the head witch..learn it and live it..there are no other witches with the proper teachings like laurie cabot, head witch of salem..tell your friends.
YOU are the one who called the religion Wicca and YOU are the reason the Government sees Wicca as the religion of the Witch. Most of your former students call what you teach Wicca.
These are GREAT points your bringing up and admire you for saying them. While I am not a Wiccan or Pagan I do wish people would understand what they are talking about when they speak about history and word ussage.
I remember Laurie Cabot once said in an interview that the word "Witch" was a "delicious" word,and she's right! She knows the word "Witch" is a powerful one, why not reclaim it? Centuries of bad publicity made "Witch" a negative word- however,maybe the modern label" Wiccan" has made it more palpable to the mundane world, who have often misunderstood . Laurie Cabot has spent her life bringing respect and pride to the word "Witch" on our behalf, even if we choose to call ourselves Wiccan.
I ended up one starting only due to your very very very poor understanding of etymology of the english language and word ussage in general. Now there is a relgion of Wicca but not all Witches are Wiccan.
Well, I've just recently gotten over calling myself "eclectic"--maybe now I can get over calling myself a "wiccan"--I'll have to think on this for a while though. I think I like clinging to the terminology...
Well... witchcraft is just a craft or practice.. Witch is the one who practice witchcraft...and wicca comes from neopaganism and it is accepted as a religion now.. And wiccans usually practise witchcraft so they are called witches.. These are facts... :)
Anyway, nice channel you have, I have just subscribed, I hope I will learn some new things about witchcraft... Wish you all the best!
i just want to say that thought the word wicca used to mean and still can mean male wise person (male witch) but now since gardner chopped it up it is NOW a new religion almost entirely derived from witchcraft. eclectic, celtic, fairie, anything not traditional (wicca) is also even newer so it is the newest religion. witchcraft is similar but much much older. please like this so it doesnt get lost in pages. i was trying to keep it short?!
idkrandomnumbers 1 month ago
MADAMME LAURIE..S.O.S.
GLEERAMOSVALLE1974 1 month ago
I am a Witch and I am Pagan but I am not Wiccan. To be Wiccan means to adhere under the terms of the Wiccan rede and 13 amendments. Something I can not do because I have met far too many Wiccan's that chants the rede but do not follow it. I have been robbed by Wiccans, even stealing my holy itams and take advantage of my services. There is one Wiccan in Tucson AZ that claims to be a high priest and yet demansd his members to sleep with him. This is why I can not claim myself Wiccan.
thesagebrushkid 2 months ago
Oh my Goddess!!! People get the hang of it! Our whole goal in this religion is to attempt to get closer to the Old Ways. Well guess what! The Old Ways didn't have anything called Wicca least of all their religion!!! Show thanks to the word for making it so we could be accepted by the government I suppose, BUT KNOW THAT YOU'RE REALLY A WITCH AND THAT'S THAT!!! Blessed be! )O(
amaranthsnow 3 months ago
Agreed!
firestorm8925 3 months ago
I think the word Wicca/Wiccan is use to make the word "Witch" not sound scary and to be more accepting.... Personal I don't mind being called The Witch!! )0(
MySameLove 4 months ago
William Shakespeare wrote these immortal words: " What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet."
What matters is what something is, not what it is called.
The debate is settled once and for all! LOL!
Laurie Cabot is the Sweetest Rose in Salem.
Stonehengeblue 5 months ago 16
These are just naive kids who truly think they know everything but can't tell the difference between scratching their watches or winding their butts....Today's generation doesn't have self respect,much less have respect for others.Kids keep watching videos,READ and maybe you will learn something beside talking about things you know nothing about. @ Laurie,You are a wonderful teacher,a great example of what a True Witch is, and always should be.Brightest Blessings as always in love & light ☽✪☾
irishcladdah3 5 months ago 3
I would love to attend your classes. Your awesome..love you. <3
AuroraLilyLauren 6 months ago
I am Wiccan and luckily wicca is a religion in the states! better late than never and thanks to Gardner .
love to you Laurie you are great.
crystalslover13 6 months ago
I just found this video, and I am ASHAMED anyone would talk that way to an elder. Regardless of whether or not you agree with her about the word wicca and its meaning, no one should ever speak to an elder of the faith that way. If no one knows, Laurie Cabot IS one of our faiths founders. She is due our respect. You may not agree with her, but if you truly did your history and research, you would see that her opinion is truly what things were/are like.
thewitchandtheangel 7 months ago
Ms Cabot is correct and being a Witch over Fifty she comes from a different age. I understand that out of Gerald Gardners and Doreen Valientes corroboration was born a new Witch cult called Wicca but history is history kids. Hit the link to know more.
ohravenous1 8 months ago
Well, wicca now means a religion, so your really just going to have to get over it. fact of the matter is words change meaning all the time and can change how we apply them also. i do agree however that maybe the religion should have found a better word to suit it, honestly though its to late for it to change and the way we see the word will never be the same again, so why not embraces it and teach how the word came about and the changes it went through, rather then try to change it back.
Shadowp03 8 months ago
@Shadowp03 Wicca now mean a lot of things but not one specific religion. There is no accepted practice or liturgy, but I agree with you on the fact that it has become a term that encompasses many thing including Witches. What I do not need to do is to lose the focus of my own tradition, we are part of the Wiccan community. Keep in mind that I was one of the first Witches, not Celtic priestess or anything else when I came into the public view. That was what changed the way of things in the US
LaurieCabotOfficial 8 months ago 7
Witch just sounds better than wiccan
TheXander360 9 months ago
Greetings Laurie, I had read alot of books on the subject of Witchcraft, as I had read yours. I would like to continue down the path of witchcraft, I am hoping your knowledge could guide me to some teachers my question would be how do I find a good teacher? Thank you in advanced and Brightest Blessings )0(
BOBCATBIKERBABE 10 months ago
I agree with you i still think you have a very good point on the subject that we arent neccassarily wiccans, we are witches.And for all those that are upset with her, think she spent all 70 years of her life bringing the word "witch" into a good word meaning "wise woman" or "wise man".
she still has valid points and spends her time teaching new witches. )0(
WitchesForTheWin 11 months ago
Actually, there are some people who are Wiccan but are not Witches, they simply follow the religion. On the contrary, there are some Witches who practice Witchcraft but do not worhship a Goddess or God.
The Religion of Wicca was founded by Gerald Gardner as that name, Wicca. Regardless of the meaning of the word. Pagan is an umbrella term, but people identify as Pagan meaning as a form of Witchcraft.
loveless3138 1 year ago
all labels have the same problem: they are stifling and inaccurate. I have personal experience with this because of my sexuality. The reason why no 2 Wiccan have the exact same beliefs is because no 2 people hav the exact same interpretations on life. No 2 people hav had the exact same life-shaping experiences as another. Some incorporate logic in2 thier philosophies and some more emotional and 'sensing.' No matter what our beliefs we can all band 2gether and stand up for our right 2 believe.
cruelbusiness1984 1 year ago
I'm with Laurie Cabot...whatever I practice, I just KNOW I'm a witch, through and through, balls to bones, as they say in Matrix. What I've sensed though is that the word "Wicca" applies more to witches that work with the Celtic pantheon, strictly, but "on their own", without following the jerarchy of druids. I work with the roman-greek pantheon mostly, however, I can't consider myself as a follower of that religion either, because I worship as I feel, not as it was...so, what am I? I'm a witch
davidcirce 1 year ago
The word Witch is such an amazing word and all Witches should be proud to be called so. I have a friend and she doesn't want to be called so. She tells me 'I hate the word Witch I call myself a Wiccan' for me it's just a word the importance is how you feel inside and how you practice you beliefs. I love being called a Witch and I am very proud to be one. In my language, Maltese, is called "Sahhara" and it's just beautiful I love it :) so just be proud of who you are and not how you are called x
dessideria25 1 year ago
The Wiccan religion as promoted by Gardner has beliefs and an origin that is based in alot of lies and the disproven research of Margaret Murray. His claims of discovering an underground witch-cult that has existed for centuries and worshiped a horned god is just a complete falsehood. It may be a legitamate reconstruction of certain pagan beliefs but thats all. There was no secret coven that had existed for hundreds of years.
fabtastic2 1 year ago
@fabtastic2 Much of what Gardner did was based in forms of Witchcraft to which he added many things on his own. Margaret Murray seemed to want to find research that supported her conclusions and stretch the truth when it was most effective for her point of view. She'd fit quite well in today's political landscape. The Cabot Tradition and the Cabot Kent Hermetic Temple are not based on Gardner in any way. We teach using experience not belief and think by philosophy not dogma.
LaurieCabotOfficial 1 year ago 5
Controversy is simply delicious - it forces people to reveal their true colors.
rainewater85 1 year ago
I don't believe Laurie is intending to "bash" anyone. Wicca is technically a tradition now, and I think that what she is trying to say is that many Wiccans, not all, have a misunderstanding of their own religion. I honestly feel that Wicca is a great doorway into the past and present ways of a witch, but it only scratches the surface. Many Wiccans that I talk to believe that Wicca has been around for centuries and will literally fight you over it; those people are stuck-longing to fit in.
MojoPyxyiKiza 1 year ago
@MojoPyxyiKiza But yes, Laurie Cabot is an amazing person, and has extreme passion for what she does, and i soon seek to be that one day. A model for the witch community, she is.
ArcaneFaerie 1 year ago
Hi Laurie,
I so agree with you that Wicca is not a religion. During my sabbats i only celebrate the seasonal changes and not lives of any gods or goddesses. But i have god and goddeses 12 in total and i honor goddess at full moon. I just dont use the stories for example at beltane the god and goddess have union. I do not beleive they are superior to us, i beleive we are equal.
witch33184 1 year ago
well i think witch comes from wicca meaning wise one ive googled and thats wut i found
could u please tell me where u heard or read that wicca means male and wicce means female because i cant find it
so plz inform :)
XthunderclapzapX 1 year ago
@XthunderclapzapX The search for the recognizable beginnings of Witches is being pursued by the English scholar Stephen J Yeates. He and many others all define the word as such, I have a more detailed blog on this in my notes on the Cabot Temple Hermetic site on Facebook if you want more details.
LaurieCabotOfficial 1 year ago 2
THIS is what everyone is throwing a tantrum about? She's not saying there's no Pagan religion being practiced, she's saying calling it "Wicca" is the wrong name. "Wicca" means "male witch" and is not a good description for religious Witchcraft.
She's not saying "Wicca isn't a religion," she's saying "Wicca isn't the proper name for the religion we practice." Gardner never meant to name his religion "Wicca." Grow up, people, and stop attack her over this, she's right.
ChrisSuperstar 1 year ago 8
Hear hear Mrs. Cabot...hear hear!!
Crazie1326 1 year ago
i see nothing wrong with what Laurie said in this video. If anything, she is trying to encourage some of you to think different and I see no harm in that.
Lillaqua 1 year ago
Ms. Laurie, i think i understand what you mean. If you look at the christian denominations, each are different, tru, but they all go by certain rules and bylaws. While Wiccan is a craft that can be changed inorder to suit the situation. Ms. Laurie is not really calling wicca Not an Religion, she is merely mentioning the difference between wicca and the other known relgions. Maybe the way she sentenced her thoughts had different effects on others because yu didnt think about the bigger picture
samoa93 1 year ago
Laurie....i think i undersand what you meant by what you said, because Wiccan has many rites and rituals, in wihich you can change to fit your situation. While Catholism has their rules that seperates them from other Christian denomionations. Trust me at first I was a little suprised, but now, i can see the bigger picture. [= - meant no offence to anyone**
samoa93 1 year ago
I LOVE U LORI. UR POTION WORKED ON US!!
textinluva123 1 year ago
I love you Laurie, but you are dead wrong. Wicca is a religion. The Cabot Tradition is not Wicca. Let's not bash Wiccans just because Laurie isn't one.
I was going to use this clip on my blog, as I have used the others, but I can't because of the inaccurate info in this clip. Still love you though Laurie. :)
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine Thank you and I certainly would never bash anyone. What I am interested in is the meaning behind the words. So far no one has yet to explain what this Wiccan religion is. What the rites are, the liturgy, the practices, where it comes from and have any two explanations be the same. The Baptists know what they believe and what sets them apart from the Catholics, Pagan groups know their specific history and practices. Please tell me what Wicca is.
LaurieCabotOfficial 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine Laurie is actually 100% correct The Anglo saxon Wicca (pronounced weecha) the female Wicce ( Weechay) is a ancestor of the word Witch
The new word Wicca ( Pronounced Wikka) is a new word that did not gain use or popularity until the late 80s to early 90s really...Most of us old Witch's rarely used it. However it has taken hold and is now the common form although completely invented through its improper use.
mreyespy13 1 year ago
I went to a Worskshop Laurie was giving on money spells earlier this month. I read her book when i was about 14 or 15. To young at the time to understand alot, but when i took the worskshop, i was enlightend, i took everything in and understood. LAURIE IS A WONDERFUL TEACHER!! She helped us get into ALPHA, and i felt so empowered, i never knew i had it in me. She has helped me look inside myself and be who i am without fear. THANK YOU LAURIE, LOVE YOU!!!
ricanboy83 1 year ago 2
There's such a thing as Wicca, the religion. It's not about witches and it's not simply paganism. Yea, I find the religion stupid, much like most other religions, but that doesn't mean you can just denounce it and say it doesn't exist. People believe in it. There are wiccans. In fact, I used to have a few friends who were Wiccans, although they were using it mainly as an umbrella of sorts.
durge666 1 year ago
I identify myself as a Witch, but I don't mind others calling me a Wiccan, because it isn't really a negative word. It's just a misnomer that has become irreparably widespread.
MrDemonWorm 1 year ago
Unless I missed something I dont understand what everyone is so worked up about. Laurie made a comment that Wicca is not a religion, what I got from that was that the WORD Wicca is not a religion and that in fact Wicca is Witchcraft but everyone accepts the word Wicca, probably because it has less stigma behind it, and so now we are all Wiccan instead of Witches.
Syric80 1 year ago
@Syric80 That's exactly what I got from it as well. People are so quick to attack. Gerald Gardner is only made founder because he popularized the word. His teachings even came from someone else... way to confusing for me.... I like Laurie's input into the discussion she's right.
premalanmusic 1 year ago
You know what!? Who are you to say what a religion is? It really annoys me when people like you open their mouth. Honestly If people would like to claim they are Wiccan, there is really nothing you can do to stop them. If the fandom of startreck , Harry Potter and Twilight , , because of their size, are now, considered or nearly considered religions, then who are you to say that witches cannot call the study of their craft the wiccan religion. A message from a proud WICCAN
ktok13 1 year ago
@ktok13 I would never try to define anyone but neither will I allow myself to be defined incorrectly. To name something is to empower it. We are all free to believe in anything but like so many cults beliefs alone will not make it so.
How do you define your religious views as a proud Wiccan, what are your beliefs, your liturgy, practices? Do other Wiccans share that with you? Witchcraft is a system, all the parts function together, a car must have an engine to go, where is the Wicca engine?
LaurieCabotOfficial 1 year ago
@LaurieCabotOfficial Wicca is a religion, since Mr. Gardner bring us this new religion, based on the believe of a God and a Godness (female and male sides of the energy that create everything). In Wicca religion, we celebrate the Earth, the changes, and we use witchcraft too... you now very well all this things... so why you act this way? I don't understand... Wicca is a religion, like you or not... there's a lot of people that practice witchcraft that are not wiccans... but we are... millions
Smeholeth 1 year ago
@Smeholeth Actually Garner practiced Witchcraft and added naturism to his tradition. I think it is very important for people to do the proper research, many of the things that "Wiccans" follow have their own tradition and their own names, it is vital for a complete understanding to dig into those roots. Gardner did not invent a new religion. If you think that you miss so much of what he or even Alexander were all about. There is profound beauty in the details of things
LaurieCabotOfficial 1 year ago 2
@ktok13 I find more concrete information about Star Trek than I find agreement between any two Wiccans. The reason is that there is a script and a history that can be verified. You know who all the crew members were and what happened. I would never try and tell anyone anything, but neither will I allow incorrect definitions to affect what we do. Anyone is free to believe as they wish, but as a teacher and a student of history lets use the correct words, those help everyone I think.
LaurieCabotOfficial 1 year ago 13
I am a witch not wiccan i follow the old ways of witchcraft. I have no law in my craft but if you want to be wiccan thats ok to, But i do side by laurie blessed be
rose500 1 year ago
I must say that youve had a lot of uneeded.. uncalled for.. and just plain, simple-minded responses to this video. I admire you and I agree that the the fabrication of the word wicca, now a days, provides for those who are scared to "fess up" about their craft a rope from on which they hold on to while those who embrace the word "witch" embrace with their all.. who dont care about being scorned, and less about diluting such a potent word.
I admire you Laurie. blessed be
cnobles84 1 year ago 4
u have some very good videos but wicca is a religion u can be a witch and not be a wiccan and vice versa but wiccans do exsist
XthunderclapzapX 2 years ago
@XthunderclapzapX Wicca is a religion invented by Gardner, it has no real lineage like traditional witchcraft.
Venustarr 2 years ago
@Venustarr
There is no traditional witchcraft. What people call "Traditional Witchcraft" is actually folk magic. The witches that Chrsitians feared, never existed. The belief in a secret underground European paganism, never existed either. I love this type of stuff but there is a lot of misinformation being spread and it should be cleared up.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@Venustarr I have all of Garders books they are on the subject of witchcraft...the word Wica is used once in but one of them and yes it is spelled wica.
mreyespy13 1 year ago
I totaly agree with you! I have never liked the concept of "wicca" and people saying they are "wiccan".
Mortificara 2 years ago 3
Well, I suppose that there are such things as Wiccans, if you are speaking old english. Male Witches. Female Witches are Wiccens. The term Witch is not gender specific. Great video. I am truly disgusted at all of the controversy this video has created. Everybody just needs to let everybody have their own beliefs.
TeenWitch777 2 years ago 2
Wasn't it scott cunnigham who first referred to his version of witchcraft as wicca (double c)? Weik? Where can I find a trustable resourse for all these "keltic language" connotations?
laramath16 2 years ago
So wait, Lorie. You are saying that wicca is a term for a male witch? So Would I be considered as such? I 100% agree with you. I am a witch and damn it I am not a wiccan!
TheWizardofodd12 2 years ago 2
yes, according to the Old English definition. If you were a female Witch, you would be a Wicce. But Witch is not gender specific.
TeenWitch777 2 years ago 2
Most people use the term "Wicca" incorrectly. Doreen Valiente, Gardner's HPS, wrote in "The Derivation of the Word 'Witch'", "The real origin comes from the Indo-European word *weik,* which has a general connection with religion and magic ... This eventually produced the Old English *wicca,* a male witch, *wicce,* a female witch ... It will be seen from the above that 'Wicca' does not mean 'witchcraft' and never did, in spite of its widespread modern use." Laurie's correct; Webster confirms it.
SoulFire33 2 years ago
I agree with parts. Gardner originally spelled the word Wica pronounced wick-uh which was a term for the Craft as a whole and where we get such lovely terms as "Wicaphobia". "Wicca" was originally pronounced "witch-uh." The Wiccan colloqualism I think is a product of publishers taking from Gardner's Wica and making Wicca.I think saying Witch is just easier but of course some people historically use this term to mean magician without religious context. Witchcraft to me is religious magick.
dapillath 2 years ago
Official Retraction & Apology from Paula Forester & Carol Bulzone owner's of The Broomstick and youtube username broomstick02. I was away for a few days having surgery and unfortunately someone I "trusted' to upload to my account and hade my passwords posted horrible comments to this site and he 'disguised' himself as us. These comments did not originate from us or are endorsed by us. We have nothing but the utmost respect for Laurie, her trad. and her views. Man has been dealt w/ severely
broomstick02 2 years ago
Laurie, when I first met you in the late 70's you said you were an atheist. Your own daughter Penny (pencil) writes on her hubpages account "...and a practitioner of earth magic it is every wiccans duty to give something back to the earth". Are you telling HER there is no such thing as a Wiccan too? I fought the hard battle from the mid 70's on. I am an elder in the Craft and my true roots go back to Scotland. I am a Wiccan AND a Witch. To deny the word is to deny the religion. Offensive!
oldtimerwiccan 2 years ago
Forgive me but if you know me, then you know better than that. Why would a real activist hide behind cute internet names? Read my blogs about this subject or take a class. But for argument's sake, please describe exactly what the Wiccan religion is. What specific liturgy,practice, training, belief, not the 13 principles but what is behind them, or the Gardenarian use of the term, Baseball is a sport, but saying one plays sports does not give them much of an identity, wicca is the same.
LaurieCabotOfficial 2 years ago
Main Entry: Wic·ca
Pronunciation: \ˈwi-kə\
Function: noun
siriusalien 2 years ago
Don't worry, Laurie, some of us understand the difference between a technical term and colloquialism!
SalemMassachusetts 2 years ago
The Irish word for witch is Ealaine Dubh. I call bullshit on the claim that witch came from a celtic word.
As for Wicca not being a religion - that's also bullshit. Seriously, wtf? What kind of incence have you been burning, lady?
ThatKrazygirlie 2 years ago
Youa re flat out wrong about the entymology of the word Witch and obviously not familiar with MS Cabot's stance on Wicca alittle research would clarify things for you a lot. How do you define the Wiccan religion exactly? Is it the Gardenarian usage or the 13 principles? You do know that those are not the basis of a religion. If not that, where? Also why the rudeness, seems to me the Pagan, Wiccan, Witches have been helped by MS Cabot, what have you done?
goodusernametaken 2 years ago
not a whole lot - just studied Irish.
ThatKrazygirlie 2 years ago
@ThatKrazygirlie so you studied Irish then?
SilverStormPheonix 1 year ago
@ThatKrazygirlie so then you said Ealaine Dubh means witch in Irish? it does not... Ealain is art and Dubh is black so it said black art.... not witch.
I got that from this web site...
(think I typed that all out right lol)
also found Cailleach Feasa or Bandraoi
Bana-Bhuidseach (witch)
however remember there are a few different dialects in Ireland to so witht he word Dubh, some say Duv and other say Dove..... but anyways... that is what I found....hope you like
SilverStormPheonix 1 year ago
I agree with you, althought Witchcraft/Wicca is often associated with the Irish (because of the red hair, green eyes and pale freckled skin) the word 'Witch' is not Irish. I should know I'm a red-haired, green eyed, pale freckle skinned Wiccan from Dublin, Ireland (And I don't know a single other Wiccan.)
And denying the existence of Wicca is offensive, wrong and could be taken much worse than I've taken it by some Wiccans.
fifiballerinagirl16 2 years ago
@fifiballerinagirl16. IF you can explain to me specifically what a Wiccan is, other than a governmentally approved term I would be most pleased. What is the liturgy, what are the rites specifically? If you are Alexandrian, then so be it, a Cabot then so be it, most Pagans and even some Satanists are calling themselves Wiccan, which makes even less sense to me, but in truth many can fit under this umbrella, the term Wiccan tells me very little about anyone's belief.
LaurieCabotOfficial 2 years ago
Well, look at it this way; the word "Christian' means so many different things nowadays. It's an even bigger "umbrella" that Wicca. I believe it has to do with a person's own beliefs and thoughts. Wiccan beliefs vary markedly between different traditions, however various similarities exist between the various groups, which usually include views on theology, the afterlife, magic, morality and reverse reality.
fifiballerinagirl16 2 years ago
I see great error in going to a less defined word, when there have been better ones out there for millenia. All who know me or my work, know I have fought for the rights of ALL religions in the US many are now called Wiccan as we dilute the words we lose the roots, the liturgy, the education and the power of a tradition, none of those traditions really needed a new name, yet we are all stuck with it for external reasons, I ask you, have we not been defined from the outside long enough?
LaurieCabotOfficial 2 years ago
Ms. Cabot, I do not have a problem with you saying that you do not believe in the term 'Wiccan' that's fine. I have mainly Catholic friends, living in Ireland and neither them nor I have any religious conflict. But to say there is no such thing as a Wiccan, and to almost undermine the beliefs of many, I shall find that offensive. I do not wish to argue with, or anger you, as I admire you in so many ways. So, I wish Threefold Blessings to you.
fifiballerinagirl16 2 years ago
At first I didn't understand this about Wicca and being a Wiccan or not.....So.....I get it now after much thought. Thank you.
77katrine 2 years ago
the younger generation just dont get it laurie.ive tried myself to explain,maybe you should explain it to them.they have no idea what it was like even in the 70's and 80's
TheWICCACHANNEL 2 years ago 3
Thank you Laurie for saying such. I have been saying this for years. I am a Witch and not Wiccan.
manoftheprairie 2 years ago 4
I suppose I do believe in Wiccans... I am one myself, a male Witch. :D There are also Wiccens, female Witches. That is, if you are speaking old english. We, however, do not speak old English. Therefore, we are all Witches.
EclecticWitchesCoven 2 years ago
Maiaduir: This is very correct. AND it's not even pronounced like most people pronounce it. Wicca= (Witch-uh) NOT (Wik-uh). The term Wicca and Wicce are outdated. They are old English spellings and pronunciations. In this day and age and language, we are Witches.
EclecticWitchesCoven 2 years ago
Main Entry: Wic·ca
Pronunciation: \ˈwi-kə\
Function: noun
As per Miriam-Webster
siriusalien 2 years ago
Laurie has re-affirmed what I have told many people in the past. i am so happy she posted this video. Even in an inteview I gave to a local paper they improperly labeled witchcraft as "wicca" even though I explained the fact to the reporter.
Laurie thank you again!
LUCANWOLFTV 2 years ago
I agree..."Wicca" in and of itself was not a religion until quite recently in history. Nobody in the old days called him or herself a "Wiccan". That's 20th century, I believe...right? It is a reconstruction. It is now recognized governmentally, that is true.
MelsieH67 2 years ago
well stated! I agree
232323C 2 years ago 2
is that a tattoo on Lauries face? a circle?
cool
232323C 2 years ago
Yeah I think it's Hecate's Wheel.
drock272 2 years ago
i think the information held in this video is very limited and has left much to personal interpritation, which is causeing misunderstandings from both sides.. please consider doing a more indepth video explaining what you mean and siting sorces.. many thanks
abominableangel 2 years ago
Yes quite right. I have found some confusion here between the 13 principles of Wicca and Gardner's use of the same sounding word Wica. I do not think the 13 princples were ever intented to be the foundation of a religion, rather than a convenience to protect a large community within governmental requirements, the armed forces and the US in general from the Christian propaganda that all were Satanists, killed children and the like. It was a huge problem in the US and still is.
goodusernametaken 2 years ago
Laurie I do agree with you. You are a great inspiration. Keep the videos coming.
Hopefully I will meet you in Salem one day.
cgray6306 2 years ago 2
You seem to be speaking for the many without any one solid example. To be Wiccan is now a legally accepted term. Under this massive umbrella is all sorts of things. In the last 2000 years I have not seen a Wiccan Tradition with all of the requirements to be a belief system or a philosophy listed anywhere. If so please educate me.
As far as making people believe, I teach the "Science" of the craft, there is no belief needed. Students leave me "doing" not believing.
LaurieCabotOfficial 2 years ago
I remember reading about this in "Power of the Witch" (the whole explanation) and just recently I started re-reading it to "freshen my mind" (I first read it more than 20 years ago). I do wish people would just read instead of watching a two-minute snippet and piling on.
I love these vids, hope there will be more!! Please put up more when you can. Thanks.
MelsieH67 2 years ago 4
There is no hierarchy in Witchcraft other than initiate, priest/priestess then high priest/priestess and if one takes on a community role , Elder.
I was not aware that the majority of the Pagans disagreed with me, on what points exactly? Many great people have Magickal roots, that does not make them Witches, The practice we follow is Indo _European in origin, there is a strong Egyptian influence as well . We do not place ourselves higher than anyone, we follow a path born of our tradition.
LaurieCabotOfficial 2 years ago
Thank you for taking time to reply to me. Well they disagree with you on many many MANY points not the least this entire no such thing as Wicca. Now their may be no such thing as Wicca in the tradition you have created but that isn't to say that the Word isn't real or that the religion of Wicca doesn't exsist in a real sence. The saying is that all Wiccans are Witches but not all Witches are Wiccan. I agree that the two words are not really Interchangable just like Babtist and CHrisitan cont
Shirotora1979 2 years ago
Chrisitan are not really interchangable. Now for your tradition you have made and path its good for you but you can't try and force it onto all other Witches and by no means the religion of Wicca. Now I acknoledge what you have done for Pagan rights in the USA but that does not make you an expert on all of Wicca or Paganism (which I am not saying you claim) but you should not be making overarching claims as you have in this video since even your entomology is completly wrong cont....
Shirotora1979 2 years ago
wrong and misleading. Now I know this is a clip from a show and you were maybe simplifying it but its still is like a slap in the face to many many Wiccans and even witches out there (not saying you intended for it either) and you bascially saying their path and faith is just invalid. Once again that may of not been your intent but many do see it that way.
Shirotora1979 2 years ago
I am Pagan, and you sir do not speak for me, nor would a Christian ever speak for any of us. You are also clueless. Wicca, is a huge catchphrase it includes many people who have nothing in common. While the word has some interesting potential origins, there is no specific Wiccan religion found in history.
goodusernametaken 2 years ago
I am as well Pagan and you do not know
Shirotora1979 the way I do, clearly. He is a good person and means no harm, but yet I see you go out of your way to attack him without understanding him. Are you sure your not a Fundie yourself? Because the way you attacked Shirotora1979 is the same way I have seen fundie Christians attack thos that have a Pagan faith. Now how about reading his points rather then attack him for his chosen Religion.
PaganRon 2 years ago
I happen to agree. I am a witch. The word wicca is a term used and accepted because the word witch sounds so evil and is used in the bible against us.
sistergoldenhair99 2 years ago
Actually it derives from Ancient Greek...
I won't go any further, but I recommend having at least a basic knowledge of ancient history before committing your self to any form of pagan, neo pagan or spiritual practice...other wise your just going to look stupid when you meet someone who is on a similar path to you, but has actually done their own research and not been spoon fed.
MrElestial 2 years ago 2
i have a question.through all my research,i have not yet found a herb legally used here, that can help my back pain.ive practiced for twenty five years, and i still cant find a natural herb to stop horrible pain.i am taking my lortab from my doctor for neuropathy and several slipped disks. but i feel it henders me it my practice.I am going to be a doctor in four years, but i want a natural source, but if it has to be,ill keep taking my pills.the pain felt is suicidial.
TheWICCACHANNEL 2 years ago
you need to watch the rest of her video's to get your information corrected
dawnnlp 2 years ago
the word witch is not a negative word..nor do witches practice or worship the devil or evil forces in any way shape or form..if you know someone practicing evil doings and calls themselves a witch...get away from them...they are not witches...witches do no harm to anyone..real witches know, anything you do to harm another will come back to you times 3....if you don't beleive me or laurie..go ahead and try it you foolish mortal. you will have to learn the truth the hard way.
dawnnlp 2 years ago
everyone needs to learn the proper language of the witches..we are witches..not wiccans..and yes wicca is a male witch..I agree with laurie's video's on everything. She's the head witch..learn it and live it..there are no other witches with the proper teachings like laurie cabot, head witch of salem..tell your friends.
dawnnlp 2 years ago 2
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TheWizardofodd12 2 years ago
YOU are the one who called the religion Wicca and YOU are the reason the Government sees Wicca as the religion of the Witch. Most of your former students call what you teach Wicca.
LesMasque 2 years ago 5
These are GREAT points your bringing up and admire you for saying them. While I am not a Wiccan or Pagan I do wish people would understand what they are talking about when they speak about history and word ussage.
Shirotora1979 2 years ago 4
Someone who understands Etymology finally. I would love to see your second off.
Shirotora1979 2 years ago 2
I remember Laurie Cabot once said in an interview that the word "Witch" was a "delicious" word,and she's right! She knows the word "Witch" is a powerful one, why not reclaim it? Centuries of bad publicity made "Witch" a negative word- however,maybe the modern label" Wiccan" has made it more palpable to the mundane world, who have often misunderstood . Laurie Cabot has spent her life bringing respect and pride to the word "Witch" on our behalf, even if we choose to call ourselves Wiccan.
Stonehengeblue 2 years ago 17
A real Witch....tapping the bone and retrieving old lore. It's about time!
TheShamanWay 2 years ago 7
I ended up one starting only due to your very very very poor understanding of etymology of the english language and word ussage in general. Now there is a relgion of Wicca but not all Witches are Wiccan.
Shirotora1979 2 years ago
Well, I've just recently gotten over calling myself "eclectic"--maybe now I can get over calling myself a "wiccan"--I'll have to think on this for a while though. I think I like clinging to the terminology...
Blessed be!
TheAgentChaos 2 years ago
Im so glad that someone finally said this! And coming from you validates this even more.
2sardines 2 years ago 3
Love it.. keep them coming! I love your glasses!
boo8ball 2 years ago
Well... witchcraft is just a craft or practice.. Witch is the one who practice witchcraft...and wicca comes from neopaganism and it is accepted as a religion now.. And wiccans usually practise witchcraft so they are called witches.. These are facts... :)
Anyway, nice channel you have, I have just subscribed, I hope I will learn some new things about witchcraft... Wish you all the best!
Blessed be )O(
pinkymouse122 2 years ago 2