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  • Tom Woods is one of the most articulate individuals out there. He shreds it every time he speaks. Anyone remotely interested in the idea of liberty needs to check out his new book called Nullification. As the USA begins to enact more and more unconstitutional laws "protecting" the public, the time to start nullifying them has never been more opportune and urgent, than now!

  • I GUESS THAT'S WHY THE HEAD OF THE BIN LADEN TASK FORCE AT THE CIA ENDORSES RON PAULS FOREIGN POLICY AND SAYS IT'S THE ONLY SENSIBLE POSITION TO TAKE AT THIS TIME.THE SENATOR OF SOUTH CAROLINA ALSO ENDORSED RON PAUL,GEE DO YOU THINK THERE IS SOMETHING MORE YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT RONPAUL?

  • Last week I saw Gary Bauer and SATAN having a hot lunch together! OK...so I lied, but I'm sure there will be one waiting for him at the gates of hell! RP 2012

  • Gary Bauer-- "Anybody but Paul": more correctly "Nobody but israel".

  • @Amy- its not about being "nice". Its about what's right and wrong. Its about common sense. I can't believe so many people are willing to give up their freedom in the name of "safety". What a scam!

  • nice muslim bashing in this video tom woods ...

  • ANyone know why ROn Paul is flying around on The TAxpayers Dollar? Hypocrit!!

  • @Amyls64 Well, Ron Paul isn't flying around at "taxpayer's expense" so get your questions straight before you pose them. He flies in a small jet frequently while campaigning, paid for BY HIS CAMPAIGN contributors i.e. ME and I'm glad.

    The Obamas are flying all over the world at public expense.

  • @maxfirepower Thats not what I read or heard. They announced on THe Imus in the morning show this morning. They were all calling him a hypocrit. Thats where I heard it first.

  • @Amyls64 Well if you heard on the radio, read it in the newspaper or heard it on TV it must be true. Ron Paul is beyond reproach, which is why he has such devoted followers. This is also why the establishment and status quo (the 1%) malign him. he is for us (the 99%) not for them. Only once every 300 years does a politician of his caliber run for the highest office in the land.

  • @Amyls64 WHAT they were bitching about was not his campaign travels which are NOT paid for by you. It was the fact that in his travels between Texas and D.C. for congressional business, he did what every other rep. does and went first-class instead of coach. BIG DEAL. He STILL returns many thousands of his congressional office budget back to the treasury every year and I don't know anyone else who does, though there *may* be another. Rand Paul gave back $500,000 this year from his budget.

  • @Amyls64 There is so little that these establishment mothpieces can dig up on Paul this is what they resort to- he traveled first-class instead of coach while flying on US business. That is the sum of his dirty-dealings and hypocracy? He is like a class 100 clean-room compared to a wastewater-treatment plant against these other contenders.

  • @maxfirepower Hillary Clinton has gone on average twice around the globe every month with her jumbo jet since she's been in office.

  • @Amyls64 Treated patients for free rather than accept medicare or medicaid payments. Returns more than $100K of Congressional budget every year. Only only. Never taken overseas trip on taxpayers' dollar. Only one. Never voted for a pay rise. Only one. His budget will bring his (if President) pay down to $39K from Obama's current $400K. Never voted for an unbalanced budget. Most honest man that ever walked the halls of Congress. Apologies :-)

  • @sleuth51 I dont care what he did. I dont trust his judgment on bigger things like GOOD and EVIL. He thinks Evil is good and good is Evil.

  • @Amyls64 He doesn't believe we should have invaded Iraq, a country that has done us no harm. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people died for the sin of living in an oil rich country. That's evil? Doesn't believe in torture. That's evil? Doesn't believe a president should have the right to assassinate citizens. That's evil? Doesn't believe it is moral to burden future generations with debt. That's evil? Believes you should keep 100% of what you earn. That's evil?

  • @sleuth51 He also compares Gaza To a concentrate camp. and doesnt think we should have killed Bin Laden. He is really in La LA land if he thinks American can get to a level to pay 0 taxes. He is not practical. And he is not dealing in reality.

  • @Amyls64 Stop watching TV. You accept their lies with far too much credulity. If Bin Laden was hiding in China, we would have asked China to extradite him. We should have done the same with Pakistan. What have you got against the rule of law? Ron Paul is humane. Americans used to be humane. We have become like our enemies.Ron Paul doesn't pander to the revengeful. The Pakistanis hate us more for violating their territorial integrity. Many Jews in Israel agree with Paul on Gaza.

  • @Amyls64 Again you are allowing your mind to be poisoned by beautiful people on TV with no brains. First, he cuts your Federal tax rate to zero. (How bad is that?) He then cuts the Federal budget to allow only for functions authorized by the Constitution. If any of these functions are worthwhile, the States will assume responsibility. You will pay tax at the state level. States don't run up debt. That is how the Constitution was written. Practical, realistic and Constitutional. :-)

  • @sleuth51 hA HA. if YOU REALLY THINK that is possible then you are in la la land too. How is he going to decrease the debt and have 0 taxes. He is dreaming. Please come to reality and come to your senses.!!

  • @sleuth51 States dont run up debt? you got to be kidding me.

  • @Amyls64 States have to balance their budgets, but may take on debt for capital projects and in many cases have to put it up for a vote as part of the ballot in an election. TV is a poor source of information.

  • @sleuth51 DOes he think that the christians getting murdered in the middle east is EVIL? Do you think that sitting back and allowing that to happen is good or evil?

  • @Amyls64 When a "Christian" President (George Bush) invades a Muslim country like Iraq, who has done us no harm and did not tolerate Al Queda, but had lots of oil, and in the process kills hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children, the risk of more Christians being killed goes up exponentially. This is why Jesus taught: do not repay evil with evil. Do unto others... Bless those who curse you. Love your enemies. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. To do otherwise is evil.

  • @sleuth51 . So then if the muslims attack this country again what are we going to do BE NICE? and see if that works? You know like the muslim in Buffalo NY who chopped off his wifes head off? What if the evil and inhumanity starts with the muslims which it did.. You think if we are nice they are going to change their ways? You are very naive if you think that.

  • @Amyls64 Congress authorized the President to go after Bib Ladin in Afghanistan. Dr. Paul voted for that. Invading an oil rich Muslim country that caused a huge loss of human life and cost us $4 trillion will certainly not make them change their ways. In fact we have changed our ways. We now hate. We now kill and assassinate. We now reject the teaching of Jesus. i guess, Jesus, as quoted below, was also naive. Christian jihadists now run our churches.

  • @sleuth51 We now HAte? Speak for yourself please. Would Dr. Paul have voted for it if he knew how he would be taken out? I dont think so.

  • @Amyls64 Hellfire missiles fired from drones on the innocent can hardly be described as loving. Admit, our undeclared wars that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people are unchristian. "Would Dr. Paul have voted... out?" Not sure what you mean? Dr. Paul speaks the truth at all times. If he doesn't mean it, he doesn't say it. If he means it, he says it, regardless of the consequences. He panders to no one. He votes the same way, guided only by the Constitution.

  • @Amyls64 "CNN April 22, 2011 [Photo] Pakistani protesters shout anti-U.S. slogans following a drone attack... amid a public furor over American drone attacks. A U.S. drone strike Friday in the Pakistani tribal region killed 25 people, including eight civilians and 17 militants, a Pakistani intelligence source said. This came after another strike on March 17 killed 44 people, most of them civilians." Inciting hatred. Achieves nothing. Not pro-life. In truth, acts of terror.

  • @Amyls64

    Not all muslims are evil, you are very ignorant and a troll. They hate us because of people like you who think they need to die. dropping bombs and killing innocents is no way to make peace. its like shooting poison into someone trying to save them. and trying to make a point to you is like trying to teach a dog how to speak.

  • @jakenichols I dont think they need to die. THere religion calls for the slaughtering of anyone that does not agree with their religion. You call that peaceful?

  • @Amyls64

    Or the Bible that says we should stone disobedient children. Deut 21:18-21

    If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13 Duet

    Ohhh so the bible just wants to kill gay people and mean kids... PERFECT.

  • @TheMango121 How come my copy of the bible does not have Deut Chapt 21:18. Mine only goes up to 21:9?

  • @Amyls64

    You must be reading the "politically correct NIV bible"

    You should try reading the real thing.

    More reading for you my devout christian friend:

    Exodus 21:17

    2 Kings 2:23-24

    Dt.13:6-10

    Deuteronomy 22:13-21

    1 Corinthians 14:34-36, "No speaking in church women....

    Colossians 3:18 "Give ur man some pussy, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP

  • @TheMango121 Well Im jewish but I always thought we had the same bible- which we call the Torah.

  • @Amyls64

    Um No.

  • @TheMango121 the 1st 5 books

  • Who cares about Gary Bauer, hes an establishment, corrupt paid-for politician kissing the rear end of the Rothschild, Zionist banking cartel. Hes trash.

    Bauer claims that Dr. Ron Paul does care about our allies "like Israel"

    Allies offer MUTUAL ASSISTANCE, What has Israel done for the USA ever? NOTHING

    Zionist DONT CARE AT ALL FOR THE USA. HAVE DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

    However, this great ally screams via AIPAC LOBBY to go to war in the MidEast FOR ISRAEL

    DO YOUR OWN KILLING

  • Wow... somebody said it. So all the other politicians lie, other then Ron Paul.

  • Tell them Tom Wood speak the word!

  • RON PAUL is the man!!! NO BODY BUT Dr. Paul!!!! I love his perspective. Another liberal for RON PAUL... That should get some attention, but no... the scum MSM wants nothing of it...

  • keep religion seperate from politics. like ron paul supports.

  • how many mosques do you think the serbs destroyed ? or is that ok to you ?

    so a jewish state is ok in israel [zionism] ? but bosnian muslims cant have a muslim state ? or the iranians cant have a muslim state even though they are the majority ? kind of hypocritical there pal

    and if someone calls there country christian if they are in the majority will you have a problem there too ? im sure the christians wont appreciate your views.

    so stop being biased against only muslims please

  • i support ron paul but tom woods is totally incorrect here .. he might want to go look up the muslims massacred by serb militias at srebrenecia. Instead of fear mongering, and spreading hate and lies about muslims like he is doing in this interview.

    Haven't the zionist brigade done that enough ?

    try and be more balanced, war crimes were committed on both sides - he needs to go and actually read about the break up of yugoslavia .. even on wikipedia would be better than nothing

  • Well done. Anyone who supports Establishment Republicans obviously doesn't understand that the alleged two-party system is just the political version of professional wrestling. It's all phony. The same interests control both parties - other than a candidate like Ron Paul. And the special interests don't like that.

  • Well put Tom! Thanks for fighting the good fight.

  • Ron Paul for President 2012!

  • Serbs celebreated Bin Laden attack 9/11:

    /watch?v=Kuw3ONe4aKM

    Serbs shooting Catholic Church:

    /watch?v=alI8kUyIiz0

  • Truth of destroyed Orthodox Churches in Kosovo:

    /watch?v=w-iCLw3WXZo (PART 1)

    Truth of destroyed Orthodox Churches in Kosovo:

    /watch?v=qfVmHQi-7X4 (PART 2)

    Mother Teresa Cathedral in the heart of Pristina:

    /watch?v=92vxVnevt20

  • I'm a Catholic from Kosovo and I find his comments extremly distasteful and simply put: EVIL. I wonder how a man like him sleeps at night, I only hope his family has to go through the same things my family did. I wonder how Tom Woods would feel if an Orthodox Serb would come up to him and cut two of his fingers, so that he couldn't cross himself with the full hand anymore. I wonder how he would feel when three of his family members have were deported and where never seen or heard of again?

  • Does this man even know that there have been found a hundred massgraves in Kosovo, ranging from 20 to 500 bodies of Albanian people of all religious orientations? Does this man know why those 'Churches' were stromed by an angry mob? They were stormed, because two Albanian CHILDREN were found DEAD in the river that goes right along these Churches. After all these people went through in the war, they had to see the same thing happen all over again.

  • Does this man even know how Serbian Ortodox priests would BLESS(!) their soldiers and send them to KILL(!) and RAPE(!) entire VILLAGES?! Has this man seen the pragnant woman that were killed like animals? Did this man ever have to walk, through a field of mines that were planted by the Satanic retreating Serbian forces? Has this man seen a child blown to pieces by a land mine???? TO HELL WITH YOU

  • I respect RON PAUL and I feel he is going to be a great American President! But as for this nutcase Tom Woods... This man has just lost all credibility as an author and not only that, but far worse he has lost all cerdibility as a human being!

  • One last thing, go to the Croats and ask them about the Catholic Churches Serbs had so much fun BOMBING!

  • Tom can lay the Wood.

  • Romney the , " Yes we can, live with that" candidate.  (if you don't get this comment watch the Saturday Night Live skit of Mitt Romney.)

  • TOM MOTHAFUCKIN WOODS

  • Let's face it....its Ron Paul vs obama....because the rest of them are all obama clones in different republican bodies!  RON PAUL 2012!!!!

  • The caller pretty much hit on why I am turned off by politicians. Most everything they say are all marketing talking points. Completely devoid of any substance or depth.

  • @k3fly0gmsk FYI, the caller was 'Tom Woods'...

  • @johannas58 Thank you for the clarification. I was listening to this right before bed time so obviously I should refrain from posting unless I'm wide awake. :)

  • @k3fly0gmsk your quite welcome! 

  • Like the video, with the exception of the part about Bosnia and Kosov. A "muslim state" in Bosnia is just not the same as an Iran or Saudi Arabia

  • ROMNEY SPEAKS LIKE ANY OTHER POLITICIAN

    DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR "YES WE CAN'

    ROMNEY SAY NOTHING EXEPT PICK ME HE HAS NO POLICY! JUST MORE OF THE SAME!!!

  • @thomasjeffersoncry Romney just points out the obvious as though we need a cheerleader...

  • who is this jack ass talking about islam ...screw him ..muslims don't burn churches ...you stupid piece of crap ! OMG this frigging idiot !!

  • Tom .... brilliant!!!

  • Mitt Romney = untrustworthy & will do nothing

    Rick Perry = untrustworthy & will do nothing

    Newt Gingrich = untrustworthy & will do nothing

    Rick Santorum = untrustworthy & will do nothing

    RON PAUL = Will Restore America NOW!

  • I love Tom, he could run himself

  • @lushfauna

    or Ron could put him in his cabinet! :D

  • Who is voting for Obamney? Do that many people watch Faux and listen to Beck?

    I finally broke threw to my parents and it took a while, they bought the B.S. for years

    Ron Paul 2012 and beyond

  • I'm from Kosovo and and Albanian, was a Muslim and am an Atheist now (a Canadian as well), and lastly I Love Ron Paul and his ideas. BUT, this idiot talking about me and my family (not all ppl from Kosovo are perfect...) like I'm an criminal....Naaaah, people have to look 600 700 years back until the war in 2000 and understand the history. ... Continued-->

  • I got to admit thought up to this day I still don't know why did the world care about Kosovo... anyhow, If somebody wants to trash talk about one nation... they better be open minded and do homework before they talk shit. Maybe I'm WRONG and supposed to be dead, but what can I say, I'm alive and love and try to support Ron Paul. Cheers RON PAUL 2012

  • ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!!!!

  • @TomWoodsTV

    If you're craving carbs it means you're not getting enough fats. Instead of doing it halfway with flour substitutes, try buying some premium free-range meats. Kobe beef tastes like fresh-baked bread, but better. I kid you not!

  • The Zionist neoconservatives have done more to put Islam on the map than Islam has done in the last thousand years.

    How ironic is that.

    -

  • I will remeber the name "TOM WOODS". He is very good at communicating the truth.

  • Ron Paul is the only candidate looking out for the American people!

  • There's something to be sad about a right wing, christian, political radio talk show, can get 400+ likes and 0 dislikes....See people...It's not the subject matter, it's the manner in which you discuss the subject matter....Great show Tom....You now are +1 atheist listener!

    And BTW...a vote for anyone other than Dr. Ron Paul is a blatant slap in the face to those of us who take our research and our freedom seriously, not to mention the constitution...

  • Tom, you're a MACHINE! Between all you've been doing to educate people, tearing down the blinders implanted by their indoctrination that encourages them to participate in their own enslavement, busting your hump supporting Ron Paul's vital cause, and even taking the time this week to help me in my own efforts to get my life back, your output of positives has been phenominal! I don't know how you get the stamina to do all of this, but I'm sure glad you're able to keep doing it. Thank you.

  • 455 likes - 0 dislikes

    I have never seen that before, very nice.

  • PAUL/WOODS 2012!

  • Many greetings from Serbia for the entire Ron Paul campaign team... Ron you have many supporters in Serbia,mostly younger ,,im-not-fooled-by-the-mass-me­dia" population who firmly believe that you can make much more difference for us here than our corrupted socialist pollitticians. America MUST lead the change,in the entire world,we've had enough of socialism in Former Yugoslavia,we dont need more of it in a form of EU superstate. Ron Paul for president, world awaits you Dr

  • GO RON GO

    THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS RON PAUL NOW

  • "Nobody BUT Ron Paul". Couldn't have said it better. I'm sick and tired of hearing so-called conservatives call him "off the wall", "crazy", or "fringe". It's junk rhetoric straight form MSM. We used to call them "pablum pukers" (back when people actually used to read).

    Ron Paul has a powerful and credible voice on his side with Tom Woods. Terrific!

  • Tom Woods you dearly need your own radio show spreading the word of liberty against tyranny.

  • Thank you so much for understanding us Serbs, Tom! I feel deep down that, particularly since the bombing, every true Serb out there has been a libertarian at heart.

    Interestingly I remember my grandfather before the bombing (when I was very young) use "American" as a term of praise for goods. "American" was a by-word for quality and ingenuity in products. We loved you guys - cause and effect was starkly demonstrated for me there.

  • First there was the "999" plan. Now here comes the "CCC" plan !!! > Consistent, Conservative, Constitutional. > RON PAUL for President 2012 !!!

  • Please listen America, get out there and support this man, this movement, Ron Pauls biggest supporters are Military personal tells you all you need to know

  • HUNSTMAN WILL DROP OUT OF THE RACE AND ENDORSE ROMNEY!!! WTF. IDIOT. HE WILL ANNOUNCE ON SUNDAY.

  • if you like freedom you love Ron Paul RON PAUL for pres

  • 384 likes now and 309 views wow how accurate!

  • fuck Gary Bauer.

  • i like how there's 350 likes and 309 views.

  • brilliantly stated. Ron Paul for PRESIDENT 2012...the others for TREASON.

  • @ilindah hey thats a good tee shirt lol

  • Ron Paul needs your support: give to the Ron Paul Money Bomb at the official Ron Paul in 2012 site, campaign for Dr Paul, and talk to your friends and family. Liberty doesn't come cheaply or easily, but it does result from dedication and persistence.

    RON PAUL 2012!

  • I've got to get some Tom Woods books. Thanks for the wisdom, Tom. 

  • This! 100% This!

    It doesn't MATTER what the other guys say, because they never do what they say anyway! If you're not gonna vote for Ron Paul then just pick a name out of a hat because they're all the same.

  • @eleutheromaniac A name out of a hat or the flavor of the week! Go Ron Paul 2012!

  • This should go viral

  • Tom Woods is a genius. Ron Paul 2012!!

  • Gary Bauer is extended family to Evelyn Rothschild's family. Therefore both are extended family to the British Royals. Rothschild is NOT the real name either. It is Bauer

  • And thank you to the guy running point of view for letting him speak the truth..

  • @treez78 Sure. :-) Simply put, we are all human. We will all have disagreements time and again. It's the nature of the beast, however just because we don't like something doesn't mean we have to embrace it or support it. Per example, I'm not into any religions, really not a fan, thus I don't support them in any way. So they are free to continue doing whatever without me imposing my views on them. If it helps them, who am I to tell them to stop, (unless they knock at my door). ;-) LOL

  • Awesome!!

  • @treez78 thats the beauty of Ron Paul my friend!

    you dont have to believe everything exactly the way he does but at the end of the day you know he has the right plan and balls to do what he says!

  • @treez78 Well in all fairness you can hate something personally, and at the same time Not impose over others. ;-)

  • What is a Gary Bauer?

  • ★ ☆ ★ ☆ RON PAUL 4 PRESIDENT 2012 ★ ☆ ★ ☆

  • Thanks for your contributions Tom. This interview made me crack open meltdown for the umpteenth time

  • Tom Woods has the goods!

  • The host is fuckin mealy-mouthed... dude needs to grow a pair and join the fray!

  • Thanks for your backing Tom your an invaluable voice of reason in the darkness.

  • Good Job Tom! Thank you...

  • Informative and the truth.. More people need to hear this.

  • you are a smart guy Tom, you should get in touch with JT from the Ron Paul 2012 Podcast and do an exclusive interview with him, that has been my daily sanity.

  • I'm glad Tom Woods is on our side.  I'm going to have to read his books Ron Paul 2012!!!

  • The best diet is too just eat like vegies, meat, carb type meals and then some cardio.. Well rounded meals that are NOT heavy in carbs. Here in America there's such a focus on carbs. You CAN eat fast food just find some place on earth that has vegetables.

  • Challenge yourself! /watch?v=BNIgztvyU2U&list

  • Thank you Dr. Woods for speaking up at every opportunity and correcting the misconceptions about Dr. Paul. I'm hoping to drive up to your event tomorrow night to hear you speak in Iowa since I was unable to make the Nullify Now tour stop this summer.

  • It's so obvious Ron is the one who understands the true Christian values.

  • Twilight Zone for sure. John McCain is not only horrible for foreign policy but he's generally very bad the country all around. And to think they call RP the kook. Listen to bite of these guys when they start going on about Iran and El Queda. They sound like paranoid schizophrenics.

  • It would be an insult to reptiles to call Gary Bauer a snake. It is difficult to find the right word to describe this miscreant. What a miserable specimen, but in that organized criminal activity called the church, the likes of Bauer are "leaders."

  • @sleuth51 Churches are(except when they are given state power)nonviolent,voluntary associations. In what way are such organizations criminal?

  • @sleedolfine15 Organized as S501(c)3 charities - not-for-profits. Essential to induce the sheeple to divest 10% (tithe) of earnings and get tax deduction. Every now and then, a free thinking pastor of a small church (the government only messes with the small people; big people get bailed out), speaks some home truths. The IRS in turn stripped the church of its 501c3 status. Pastors support the wars. Anti-war voice might cost them 501c3 status = Compromised criminal endeavor.

  • @sleuth51 You still have not explained how churches are criminal organizations.

  • @sleedolfine15 You tube limits the number of words per post. A financial fraud bilks people out of their savings. Most churches perpetrate financial fraud on members. Anyway, if you adhere to the Christian Zionist Bible (Schofield), I'd never be able to persuade you otherwise. Just follow your church leaders. They endorsed Santorum: Blessed are the warmongers, Repay evil with evil. Curse those who curse you.. Hate your enemies.

  • @sleuth51 What evidence do you have to support the extreme statement that most churches engage in financisl fraud?--Merely saying so does not make it true. Santorum is doing well amongst many conservative christians,but since most voters in the GOP primary are probably christians and since Santorum is running in the polls way behind Romney,Paul and(in some polls) Gingrich in South Carolina christians must not be going his way.

  • @sleedolfine15 40 years of inside information...if you count Christian jihadists like Gary Bauer and his ilk as "christian" voters, then you have the evidence you are looking for. No disrespect, only sadness, but no doubt the likes of you tithe to the likes of Bauer and his ilk, modern day Pharisees in the truest sense of the word. (Don't think Jesus' problems with the clergy of his day was unique to that age.) A fraudulent transfer of money under the guise of religion.

  • @sleuth51 In the first place,I don't tithe to Bauer. I'm not even particularly religious-- although why I share this with you I don't know. I defend Bauer,I suppose because I dislike unfair representation. Bauer and his ilk are nothing more than the conservative side of a rather large religion. He is not a jihadist. He doesn't saw off heads or stone women for sexual immorality. He may not like all of the goings on in our culture,but his reaction to them are within acceptable range.

  • @sleedolfine15 Vaporizing innocent individuals with hellfire missiles fired from drones, approved and cheered on by the Christian jihadists are "within acceptably range?" 1.4 million Iraqis died (Just Foreign Policy website) for the sin of living in an oil rich country that Bush and his church buddies wanted to lay their hands on. I guess one abortion is horrendous but 100,000 war deaths are OK. Christian jihadist believe that life starts at conceptions, but ends at out borders.

  • @sleuth51 I'm a Ron Paul supporter so obviously I don't support the wars,but the use of drones and other weapons of modern war is unfortunately well within what is considered acceptable by the political mainstream. It has very little to do with religion (which,by the way is what we were talking about)but is an part of modern warfare. I don't agree with it,but Bauer is hardly an aberration,nor is it peculiar to some religious people.

  • @sleedolfine15 Wars and drones should have everything to do with true Christian leadership. Iraq did not make war with us. They had a leader who wouldn't submit to US bullying, so Bush concocted a lie. No Christian leader, like a Dietrich Bonhoeffer in Hitler's time, stood up to oppose Bush's war of aggression. Google Y Tube: Phil Donahue On Piers Morgan Discussing Ron Paul Why are church leaders not condemning these drone attacks? Because they are modern day Pharisees/frauds.

  • @sleuth51 I dont support the wars,but I think that the difference between you and I is I understand that decent people can come to different conclusions about the same thing. You do what so many people do. You assume that anyone unable to see thing as you do are not merely wrong but evil. That,my friend,is how the muslin jihadist see the world --our way or we'll cut off your head. This inability to see thing the way other's do is the cause of most of the evil in the world.

  • @sleedolfine15 I'm saying these Christian leaders are Christian jihadists. They have become like their enemies. They not only condone the killing of innocent Muslims in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, but they cheer lead for more. The should be condemning our murderous attacks on innocent people for the sin of living in an oil rich country. "Cut of your head"... why is that so terrible, but hellfire missiles are OK? Our way or we'll bomb you... the true cause of evil..

  • @sleuth51 I got into a really frustrating arguement with a generally intelligent sensible,good hearted friend of mind over the war. She is absolutely convinced that Ron Paul is a wacko because of his so called " extremist" foreign policy. She is persuaded that "we've got to fight them over there to keep them from coming over here". I explained why that is not so--that our interventionist foreign policy is the real; danger,but she is unpersuaded. People can be wrong without being evil.

  • @sleedolfine15 All about OIL - terrorism a convenient excuse. The "fight them over there" argument has cost us $4 trillion, 5,000 death, 35,000 wounded and up to 1.4 million innocent deaths. We have done more harm to ourselves than any terrorist org. could ever have done. Bottom line: we are broke. $15 trillion in debt and rising is "wacko."... also highly immoral to burden future generations with this debt. Wait until interest rates treble, "wacko" won't begin to describe it.

  • @sleuth51 You are preaching to the chior.But my point is that good people can support the war out of error. I supported the war myself for the first few years after 9/11. Many people did. My problem with you is not your opposition to the war...I also oppose the war. My problem is in the intensely angry negative way you view those on the other side in the grip of error. Your rage and name calling interfers with your ability to change minds on the war. Dr. King used compassion & reason.

  • @sleedolfine15 Righteous anger my friend. If one abortion is unacceptable, why should the deaths of 4,4000 soldiers, the wounding of 33,000 others and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis not make us angry, especially against the pro life warmongering evangelical hypocrites. Vipers, whited sepulchers... Jesus resorted to "name calling" against the clergy of His day. And don't forget, they are cheer leading for a repeat performance in Iran.

  • @sleuth51 Then the goal is to defeat them if we can while understanding that such people are often motivated in their error by virtue--a correct desire to defeat evil, while being incorrect in their method. For instance the iranian regime is truly evil and possibly desirous of exporting that evil so the negative reaction to iran is understandable. What the proponents of war fail to understand is that their method put us and others in greater dander and hence needs another method.

  • @sleedolfine15 I do not accept the premise that the Iranian regime is evil - just media propaganda. In fact our regime is evil, as evidence by the Iraq war and the unprovoked drone attacks. We shot down an Iraqi civilian plane. We helped Saddam with his invasion of Iran. Google You Tube Iran Propaganda debunked in less than 6 minutes,

    Rick Steves' Lectures: Iran and George Galloway Iran The war profiteers in the US want you to believe their lies. Solid research will debunk this.

  • @sleuth51 (1)You keep making the arguement against the war which is superfluous inasmuch as I have already stated my opposition to the war,(2) The Iranian regime is evil because of its lack of freedom..Several human rights organization from Amnesty International to Freedom House place Iran near the bottom of their lists of freedom indices and a society antagonistic to the freedom of it's citizens is evil.

  • @sleedolfine15 Who cares if they are free or not? I can name 50 African countries that aren't free. According to their faith they are free. They could care less about what the West defines as freedom. Listen to that lecture given by Rick Stevens. We aren't free either. Diebold machines do our voting for us. Our government burdens us with ungodly amounts of debt. The media controls us. We can't think for ourselves. Our children are "forced' into govt. education. etc. etc.

  • @sleuth51 There are degrees of freedom. There are a world of things that I can do..that you can do that would get you jailed or murdered in Iran. If you really can't make the distinction between the unjustified governmental controls in the still basically free western world of democratic quasi capitalism and authoritarian Iran then I susgest that you speak to to one of the many former Iranians living in the U.S...and please no conspiracy nonsense. .diebold machines really.

  • @sleedolfine15 Why don't you watch that lecture given by Rick Stevens. He spent a month or so in the country filming and talking to people. Again, why should I care about who is free or not? The world is a big place... we are going broke fast and my taxes have to go toward making other people free and changing regimes? The regime change in Iraq did not exactly go according to plan... lots of dead people... that's our definition of freedom. Nuts.

  • @sleedolfine15 I guess Amnesty International and Freedom House are going to tell us that this is freedom:

    you tube.com Joe Rogan: The American War Machine

    This is true evil, if you are looking for evil

  • @sleedolfine15 'iranian reime is truly evil' ?! - ROTFL. They have not fought an agressive war since 200 years!!! US is currently the agressor in 5 wars at a time! 'Bribe or bomb' policy! Look at the list of of countries with biggest oil fields and you will understand what is REAL goal of 'promoting democracy' by USA! Oh and btw in Iraq a MILLION people died and the WMD just werent there (even though US GAVE the WMD to Saddam back when they were ood friends!)

  • @acotytamwiesz Actually,it's closer to 2,000 years. As far as I can tell,the iranians have not engaged in an aggressive war since it was the Persian Empire...But that isn't my point. I never once susgested that all of the movement toward war with Iran is legitimate. I don't favor warring against another country merely because they oppresss their own people--but Iran does oppress its people and any regime that is hostile to its people's freedom is evil. That's my only point.