Fred also seems to be borderline-obsessed with Genesis...he's got a few PTV music videos on his Youtube account from when he was in the band, but he's also got several video interviews of Gen on his upload list.
Fred Giannelli (er, @dangerfellini), likes to troll PTV vids on YouTube and claim he did more for PTV than he really did. he was a member of PTV for what, 4 years? PTV existed WAY before (and after) he was in the band. his modus operandi is getting old. he seems to have hated his time in PTV, yet he posts all sorts of videos.
@catpee3000 Fred, if Gen really "ripped you off" like you say s/he did, then take it to fucking court! i mean, Gen lives in NY, it's not like s/he lives in some tiny third-world country...you know where Genesis lives! either take it to court or fucking get over it! look, i'm a musician and i've done studio work too, and i know how contracts work...were you considered an actual member of the band, or a "paid employee"...cos those are two different things.
@catpee3000 I'd rather just torture morons like you. No $ for a lawyer unless you are volunteering. Gen always claims that he's broke or been ripped off by licensing my work to companies that he claims never paid him. By contaminating all of my work with my valid opinion he won't bother licensing anything I made again. FYI, I do not have Gen's current address since he moved to NYC years ago. Perhaps if I had that info he would have been served papers...
@dangerfellini first off, i'm not saying you didn't get screwed. but if you had a genuine contract with Gen, well...didn't you read it before you signed it? i mean, i know there are many states that take verbal contracts as legally binding, but you better be able to prove that shit beyond a reasonable doubt.
also: good job for talking shit to a PTV fan...i say that sarcastically, cos you're not winning any points.
@catpee11 You sound very naive. There were never any contracts to sign with P-Orridge because he just took advantage of everyone's talent. Sure he appeared fair at the time but he was living a "lifestyle" that was considerably higher than any of the other members of the group while I was involved.
@catpee11 The only contract I had was for my publishing with Complete Music Ltd. They collected the royalties for the material I wrote for PTV at a whopping 25% fee which Gen gently forced me to sign with them because they offered him an advance and nothing for me.
@catpee11 So my complaint is with the reissueing of old material where songwriting publishing royalties were never paid. ie. Voiceprint. As it was at the time, PTV was a "project" with Gen & Paula owning it 50/50. They neglected to realize that after going on the road in the USA twice, as well as Europe that we had gelled into a BAND.
@catpee11 It wasn't until Gen's divorce where he got 100% of control of the project that he offered me a partnership and then revealed that I would incur his personal debt of $200,000. Naturally I considered his so called offer an insult. There is no way that his investment into the band cost him that much. Because Gen operated as a psuedo record company with invisible business partners that handled manufacturing and distribution in the UK, I could not audit his books.
@catpee11 Here's an example for you of a former member named Grimsby/Paul Reeson re: artwork. Paul designed the artwork for the Unclean twelve inch single. Which Gen decided to keep using without making a deal with Paul. He even recently licensed the image of the Unclean record sleeve to be put on a t-shirt. Gen never contacted Paul for permission, or offered him a fair cut of any profits or even sent him a free t-shirt.
@catpee11 The same thing happened to Val Denham with the wolf on the cross t-shirt. Gen never had any contracts with anybody. PS. I will ALWAYS talk sarcastically to PTV fans. I could care less. They are all a bunch of douchetard Gen worshippers with their tongues up his ass. PTV, TOPY, OTTT, etc... can all drop dead for all I care Catpiss.
@catpee3000 in a city of millions, how many people are named Genesis P-Orridge, or even his birth name of Neil Megson? both names are pretty unique and i can't imagine that it would be THAT hard to track him down.
i have a hard time believing that your lawyer did their best to try and find Gen. if that's really the case, i'd highly suggest you find a new lawyer, cos your old one sucked at his job!
@catpee3000 One thing is for certain, I did more during my tenure in PTV than catpee3000. Also did more gigs with them than Alex Ferguson did. I never said I hated my time in PTV. Just can't stand P-Orridge.
@bluestate69 Well, Alex Ferguson wrote it and I just adapted it rather quickly for the post-Alex version of PTV that I was involved in. We didn't play it very many times live in '88 and '89.
@bluestate69 ferguson was the alternative tv guy right? you did an excellent job with the arrangement . it would be a hard song to translate live, because the hook is a very understated keyboard "riff", so the guitar taking over makes perfect sense. how long were you with psychic tv?
In the distance there is truth which ends like a knife The cross we have laid it will give you life! I said, Is it me? Can I be free? Would you take my hand? You'd understand then. Now I know, I can never go, to this be why you be upset? Could be why you look at me? Could I see? Could I really really be? Is it what you stole that used to be? Is it what I think I completely feel? If you could understand. You'd take my hand. And we'd spread so far, like Arcadia.
That's my old pal Stream Angel there with his clothes off!
astralsocialclub 2 months ago
Golliwogg APPROVES of this song.
GolliwoggMusic 4 months ago
Fred also seems to be borderline-obsessed with Genesis...he's got a few PTV music videos on his Youtube account from when he was in the band, but he's also got several video interviews of Gen on his upload list.
catpee3000 6 months ago
@catpee3000 You smell like Catpiss. The interviews are to point out the idiocy of that clown P-Orridge. Just a bloated mess these days.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@1967nj Fatboy Slim is entertaining, but he's basically a DJ that sings over some sampled shit. his "music" is pretty much all sampled.
catpee3000 6 months ago
Fred Giannelli (er, @dangerfellini), likes to troll PTV vids on YouTube and claim he did more for PTV than he really did. he was a member of PTV for what, 4 years? PTV existed WAY before (and after) he was in the band. his modus operandi is getting old. he seems to have hated his time in PTV, yet he posts all sorts of videos.
catpee3000 6 months ago
@catpee3000 Fred, if Gen really "ripped you off" like you say s/he did, then take it to fucking court! i mean, Gen lives in NY, it's not like s/he lives in some tiny third-world country...you know where Genesis lives! either take it to court or fucking get over it! look, i'm a musician and i've done studio work too, and i know how contracts work...were you considered an actual member of the band, or a "paid employee"...cos those are two different things.
catpee3000 6 months ago 2
@catpee3000 I'd rather just torture morons like you. No $ for a lawyer unless you are volunteering. Gen always claims that he's broke or been ripped off by licensing my work to companies that he claims never paid him. By contaminating all of my work with my valid opinion he won't bother licensing anything I made again. FYI, I do not have Gen's current address since he moved to NYC years ago. Perhaps if I had that info he would have been served papers...
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@dangerfellini first off, i'm not saying you didn't get screwed. but if you had a genuine contract with Gen, well...didn't you read it before you signed it? i mean, i know there are many states that take verbal contracts as legally binding, but you better be able to prove that shit beyond a reasonable doubt.
also: good job for talking shit to a PTV fan...i say that sarcastically, cos you're not winning any points.
catpee11 3 weeks ago
@catpee11 You sound very naive. There were never any contracts to sign with P-Orridge because he just took advantage of everyone's talent. Sure he appeared fair at the time but he was living a "lifestyle" that was considerably higher than any of the other members of the group while I was involved.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@catpee11 The only contract I had was for my publishing with Complete Music Ltd. They collected the royalties for the material I wrote for PTV at a whopping 25% fee which Gen gently forced me to sign with them because they offered him an advance and nothing for me.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@catpee11 So my complaint is with the reissueing of old material where songwriting publishing royalties were never paid. ie. Voiceprint. As it was at the time, PTV was a "project" with Gen & Paula owning it 50/50. They neglected to realize that after going on the road in the USA twice, as well as Europe that we had gelled into a BAND.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@catpee11 It wasn't until Gen's divorce where he got 100% of control of the project that he offered me a partnership and then revealed that I would incur his personal debt of $200,000. Naturally I considered his so called offer an insult. There is no way that his investment into the band cost him that much. Because Gen operated as a psuedo record company with invisible business partners that handled manufacturing and distribution in the UK, I could not audit his books.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@catpee11 Here's an example for you of a former member named Grimsby/Paul Reeson re: artwork. Paul designed the artwork for the Unclean twelve inch single. Which Gen decided to keep using without making a deal with Paul. He even recently licensed the image of the Unclean record sleeve to be put on a t-shirt. Gen never contacted Paul for permission, or offered him a fair cut of any profits or even sent him a free t-shirt.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@catpee11 The same thing happened to Val Denham with the wolf on the cross t-shirt. Gen never had any contracts with anybody. PS. I will ALWAYS talk sarcastically to PTV fans. I could care less. They are all a bunch of douchetard Gen worshippers with their tongues up his ass. PTV, TOPY, OTTT, etc... can all drop dead for all I care Catpiss.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@catpee3000 in a city of millions, how many people are named Genesis P-Orridge, or even his birth name of Neil Megson? both names are pretty unique and i can't imagine that it would be THAT hard to track him down.
i have a hard time believing that your lawyer did their best to try and find Gen. if that's really the case, i'd highly suggest you find a new lawyer, cos your old one sucked at his job!
catpee11 3 weeks ago
@catpee3000 One thing is for certain, I did more during my tenure in PTV than catpee3000. Also did more gigs with them than Alex Ferguson did. I never said I hated my time in PTV. Just can't stand P-Orridge.
dangerfellini 3 weeks ago
@1967nj Why ? Did he sample this or something ?
dangerfellini 6 months ago
anybody know what show this is from (when where)? or if there is a complete video of the concert somewhere.. there are a few videos up from it.
infectedcab 9 months ago
@infectedcab its from the 'joy' video shot in manchester 88 which was reissued on dvd with the 'black' video(live in london 1990) :)
hazdo 9 months ago
bassist & drum player are very cute.. !! :-p
simoom37 11 months ago
@simoom37 There is no bass player. But I'm playing the guitar. Thanks for the compliment, 20 years too late...
dangerfellini 6 months ago
@dangerfellini sorry for the mistake.. great men & great music!
simoom37 6 months ago
YET I miss ROSE MCDOWALL !!!!!!
simoom37 1 year ago
Check out the awesome homemade DIJ jacket at 2:14 - that guy looks familiar I wonder if I knew him :) Oh I miss these days.
eindoppelganger 1 year ago
This decidedly, most assuredly, does not suck. Rest comfortably, very comfortably, secure in the knowledge that this tune is indeed, excellent.
Quite frankly, I love it.
Dennisdread 1 year ago 9
@Dennisdread you bet!! i like the guitar sounds, the synth sounds & gen p o's voice !!
simoom37 1 year ago
@simoom37 We always turned Gen's voice off in the monitors because he wouldn't SHUT THE FUCK UP. Still won't... some things never change.
dangerfellini 6 months ago
@Dennisdread Can't get more British than that.
tzaeru 10 months ago
naked dancing man!
Zyrna539 1 year ago
comment 23
foetusenvy 1 year ago
what a voice!!
simoom37 1 year ago
hahaha
dopietzsche 1 year ago
i don't see how someone could say that this "sucks". it's a harder than the original, but that's what you would expect a live version to be.
bluestate69 1 year ago
@bluestate69 Well, Alex Ferguson wrote it and I just adapted it rather quickly for the post-Alex version of PTV that I was involved in. We didn't play it very many times live in '88 and '89.
dangerfellini 6 months ago
@bluestate69 ferguson was the alternative tv guy right? you did an excellent job with the arrangement . it would be a hard song to translate live, because the hook is a very understated keyboard "riff", so the guitar taking over makes perfect sense. how long were you with psychic tv?
bluestate69 6 months ago
Okay so...that's not really Psychic Tv is it? Who is it?
RoseWhiteRoseRed 1 year ago
@RoseWhiteRoseRed yes this is ptv but this version reallly sucks!
RecordsAdNauseam666 1 year ago
@RoseWhiteRoseRed
If I've ever connected Psychic TV to certain type of music, sounds and visual aesthetics, this is pretty closely it. :)
But the perception takes different form with different people and during different times and places..
tzaeru 1 year ago
This vid kicks ass! His new ginder binder look makes me wanna puke.He makes one UGLY ASS WOMAN!!!! It gave me nightmares.......
MrWer1138 1 year ago
wow. great to see this.i love this song. the record version is so different. thanks for posting this.
nothingUneed2no 1 year ago
Just like Arcadia state hospital.
franznpdx 1 year ago
Acid man,love this video.
papydasy 2 years ago
Fred looks so hawwt here....xoxo
JANXDPDX 2 years ago
@JANXDPDX Thanks JANXPDX. Send me your foto from 20 years ago and I'll tell you how hot you look too.
dangerfellini 6 months ago 2
Can I ask you for a special favor, please?
Im a spanish speaker...I have some knowledment of english but it's very basic and i can't understand the lyrics of Psychic Tv!!!!!!
please, can you put the lyrics of this song here??
Is one of my favourite songs ever!!!
CasoPerdio 2 years ago
lonemilkman 2 years ago 4
anytime anyone wants to tie me up, kidnap me, and have me tour with animals as wild as this. i'm here. i'm there.
lonemilkman 2 years ago 2
1:52
ManInRevolt 2 years ago 2
genesis can groove!!
TheStargazer355 2 years ago 2
Thanks for posting! CHeers!
allgoraro 2 years ago
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU!
antipax00 2 years ago
love
oneswedishpunk 2 years ago
This buzzez me !!
Thanks 4 the upload x x
SuperstarNeilC 2 years ago
Muito bom, perfeito \o.
haha, pagaria milhões para estar nesse show \o
felipemanson 2 years ago
yo también!
drxmxm 2 years ago