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  • Zao!? Fucking sick

  • lol if this is the kind of metal you played in 2007

  • what is he playing 0:28 ?

  • @wtfguitar1135

    Killswitch Engage

  • @secretsinscale thanks .. whats the name of the song btw??

  • Pobre amplificador...El no tiene culpa de que alguien toque con tan poco gusto a través de el...

  • this is the worst thing i've ever heard

  • LOL Zao fail right in the beginning. This guy kinda sucks, and I think he could probably get a better tone from such a great amp.

  • The no efx loop pisses me right off.

  • Yeah Rose of Sharyn!!!

  • is this amp loud enough to gig with? and is it footswitchable?

  • I think i prefer marshall to orange :/ a high end marshall is the best amp in my opinion

  • @punkbeech2008 Ya sometimes I think that to I've had some killer original 70s marshalls perhaps about 15 of them over the course of my guitar life. All were very different superleads, jcm 800s, 2203, an anniversary model, and even purple hendrix stack! All played owned and sold over the years.

    Your right but if you can't finance any "amazing sounding tube Marshalls" then I'd say Orange is a solid purchase under a 1000 bucks.

  • What is the first riff he plays? I know the song from probably 8 years ago, but don't remember what band it is.

  • mais que jouez vous donc? et le son est tres mauvais.

    Le heavy c'est un autre son que ca

  • hmm i know that song.... as i lay dying?

    xD

  • @FoxieTrix actually it was zao

  • great playing!

  • Rose of shayrn!

  • Keeps playin killswitch=p

  • $1000 Hell i got the head and a 2x12 used for $899 and its in perfect condition.

  • This is a really bad demo! Sorry but poor audio quality and really bad playing.. Not trying to take any shots and the man.

  • Thats Black Metal hahahahah lol

  • Thats Black Metal hahahahahahahaha lol

  • ZAO!!!! You just became my favorite guitarist on youtube! :)

  • The first riff is Breath of the Black Muse from Zao's Funeral Of God Album.

  • @christrocker117 actually, the first riff is The Rising End from Zao. 

  • Hey, just a question, currently I have the tiny terror with a 1x12 orange cab. Do you think that the Rocker works well enough with the 1x12, or do I need something bigger?

  • @PencilHeadS2

    I would go for a 212 actually.

  • hey nice vid, what do u think is better for metal- and hardcore the rocker or the thunder?

  • @Marzel16

    Never used the thunder,but you will have plenty of power with the thunder.

  • @melbookermusic ok thx man

  • @Marzel16 Thunder

  • Zao: the rising end at the beginning. nice.

  • @Asmodai4

    Yep-yep :-)

  • oh man i cant remember the name of song with the last riff that you play, could you tell me lol?

  • @LachlanBerry05099

    Killswitch...Rose ...I believe...

  • A loop would have been cool-at the current price. But whether you need it or not depends on you. You could always have a tech add one later.

  • hey there Mel, how do you feel about the Rocker-30 not having a loop? and what do you think about $1000 as a used price for the combo-version?

  • @smp156

    Heard the combo at NAMM cool. If you like the combo-go for it.

  • love the KSE!

  • Hi!

    Did u use any pedal to make this heavy tone?

    Rock on!

  • @IITigerII

    mixed in a Route 66

  • i've heard these orange amps in person from a friend i know. they rock! best metal sound out of anything i've heard. i wish they could do the same with bass :(

  • ive got the Orange CR50BXT and you do get an awsome tone from them

    cost around £230. dunno what that is where you from (america germany france...) and you get a beautiful tone through the little demon

    you should seriously considder getting one if you want a decent combo

  • Orange amps are some of the best in the world. Any amp can sound like shit if you don't know how to EQ it. Most Oranges have an active EQ- which can make the amp sound like shit if you don't know what you're doing with it.

  • Guys, the amp doesn't suck...it's called video camera mics don't sound all that great.

  • @JulianOfViolence haha i know. I would punch a baby walrus for one of these

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  • Hey I added my band's video to this. I used The Rocker 30,and a Michael Kelly Hourglass Q for most of it. An Ibanez 7 string + Clean Rocker 30 + J&H from visual sound to layer it.

    Check it out.

  • KILLSWITCH FTW!!!!!!!!

  • LOL!

  • tone doesn't sound very good. kinda empty, which is weird cause i've heard nothing good out of orange amps. maybe its the camera

  • probably camera and the guy probably doesn't know shit about tone

  • yeah true

  • oh but I do...

  • it was a assumption/joke, most probably its the camera

  • ha im saying word to you

  • 2nd riff is 'Rose of Sharyn" Killswitch Engaged

  • is this really the right amp to get for metal? i want it for a heavy stoner rock sound but want to use it to play metal as well, maybe with the right pedals?

  • there is nothibng better for stoner rock than orange mate.they are just made for us stoner rockers

  • word!!!!

  • what?

  • You're a great player.

    For some reason, I just don't dig the tone of the amp very much. Maybe it's just the camera mic.

  • dude, its gotta be his pickups... its like his tone is non existent.

  • Plus it looks like he's pushing a 2x12 with that head. It was REALLY designed with 4x12 in mind. Might be pushing the 2x12 a bit too hard.

  • or the treble on the amp is all the way down or some shit. haha or heavy ass strings. like 15s. i got 15's, they sound like shit

  • haha... dude, wat r u doin with 15's

  • lol i felt like dropping A one day, hahaha, got bored.

  • what's the 2nd riff ur playing?????

  • Killswitch Engage - Rose of Sharyn

  • how much would this amp set me back?

  • About 1300.

  • damn i better start saving now

  • I don't think there would be much of a difference, the latter is louder and requires more volume for the tubes to break ( not physically, but you know what I mean) the latter also has reverb, which I wouldn't really use for metal anyways.

  • They should be pretty similar gain -wise,but the 50 will have more headroom.

  • Shield all of your guitar as well....

  • Nothing is wrong with your pickups, just shield them or get someone else to shield them for you.

  • First Riff- Zao The Rising End

    I havnt listened to the funeral of god in forever, thanks for reminding me

  • i am thinking of getting the rocker 30 combo thing. i keep seeing it as "rockerverb 30 combo" and "rocker 30 combo" are the names interchangeable or are they different amps? does anyone know?

  • as far as I know, they are different. the rockerverb has a valve driven reverb pot on it and the rocker doesn't that's basically the difference.

  • i think the rockerverb has a bit more gain

  • the rocker and the rockerverb are 2 totaly different amps. the rocker is basicaly a blues amp. and the rockerverb will do every thing from clean to metal

  • Where is the 212 cab? I can only see the 112 cab.

  • It's on the floor. Actually I am sitting on it. This thing is a tank. :-)

  • ahhh..ok. I thought you were using the orange cab ppc112 that is underneath the rocker30.

    I am thinking to sell my TT and get the rocker30.

    nice video.

  • is it any good with out a cab

  • not if you want it to make sound....

  • lol

  • he's using a head not a combo

  • Does it have an effectloop? please reply :D

  • no it doesnt

  • No loop on this one. Check out their website. They have others with a loop.

  • What song was that at 0:29?

  • the rose of sharon by kill switch

  • killswitch engage but cant remember what song is it ^^

  • kse- rose of sharyn dude!

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  • There just isn't enough distortion. There is too much crunch and it con't really sing.

    Not for metal....however bogner.....

  • nothing bad about the riffs, but those wernt heavy....distorted but not heavy

  • Dude, I love how you opened with zao, such a sick rifff.

  • "Funeral" is my fave from them-still play that cd a lot.

  • did you use any effect pedals??

  • pushed it with a route 66 at the end.

  • Hmm..I hate metalcore, but Killswitch Engage is pretty good :/.

  • I love Killswitch too. I really can't keep up with all of the terms: Metal Core,Grind Core,Death Core,Emo core,Hard core,etc. I just hear stuff I like and learn it. :-)

  • I know what you mean, I just hear music I like and forget the genre :P

  • Good stuff man. A healthy appetite for music!

  • would this head be loud enough with a marshall 200w cab for gigs in front of say 200 people?

  • this amp is LOUD

    should be more than enough unless you have major hearing problems

  • brilliant :D i can see this as my new amp thanks for the advice

  • i think itd perform inforn of double that, plus it can always be miced if need be.

  • orange arnt really good with distortion

    but i tried a boss ml-2 on one

    and it sounds better then any metal amp

  • you must be joking. Orange has one of the best distortions I've ever heard. this just isn't the best clip...

  • yeh there good with it..

    but its not really my type

    i like hi gain.

    like really high

    metal sounding..

  • ok perhaps there would be some other amps then :-). but an orange can take about everything. realy amazing souding amps... a bit too high priced for my taste though. cheers

  • your right though great amp

    if i had the money for one id get one and put my ml-2 on it

    best distortion ever!

  • yeah Zao!

  • go with mesa boogie instead of this thing...or a good high end marshall

  • yeah but if your in a band and one of your guitarists already use a mesa, then you get this for great seperation, the sound sik too!!

  • Orange is up there with marshal and mesa in terms of what can it do.

    All about preference though, i personal like the simplicity of the oranges, more plug and play.

  • favorite zayo song at the beginning :)

  • to muddy for me, I've expected more from orange :(

  • Its going to be hard to tell while listening to the poor quality of you tube and not fiddling around with the settings yourself

  • Oranges aren't really meant for super tight, defined high gain. This is kind of their charm.

  • Which killswitch song is he playing?

  • Rose of Sharyn-Love Killswitch.

  • Zao and Orange - sweet combination !

  • Nice to hear a bit of Killswitch.

    Still cant make my mind up about the rocker 30, its the only Orange i would ever buy, but the price is still ridicolous i think. But this amp i have to admit is prety decent

    Nice guitar playing dude!

  • These things are expensive. if you can afford it it is a great amp. Peavey Classic 50 is a great workhorse amp if you are on a budget. I just switched to a Kustom Coupe. I have taken it on about 5 gigs so far-I think I have found the amp for me. Well-I would like to get a Kasha,but they are more expensive than Orange :-).

  • Drop C!

  • oh sweet, the first riff was from Zao

  • I like "Funeral" a lot. So far that is my fave. I have the fear and liberate,but funeral is it for me.

  • Engl its much better than wash machine...lol

  • ...depends on the washing machine :-)

  • Is that a PPC112 cab with it?

    Would a PPC112 and the Rocker 30 head still be loud enough for small gigs e.g. up to 300-500 people?

  • Yes-it is. I think a small gig with that cab would be fine,but I always used the Drive 212.

  • Can anyone help. Ive got a budget of about £350 and want a all tube amp combo cabable of doing everything from cleans to ac/dc style cruch to a heavier metallica sound. can push to £400 but anythin lower is great.

  • probably a used engl screamer or thunder

  • Try a Peavey Valveking 112, 212 or even the head depending on your budget

    I find they are great amp for the cash

  • yeah-anytime the word budget comes in buying gear,peavey is a great choice.

  • wow amazing!

  • sweet riffs

    that part of the rose sharyn you played is a little off but sounds close enough :]

  • led zeppelin and black sabbath had them at certain points in history...very impressive amps

  • ...just another reminder for you guys to check out Kasha. They are expensive,but I think Kasha will be everybody's go to amp pretty soon.

  • wat were u playing at 0:20 - 0:45?

    it sounded awesome

  • The begining of that was Zao-the end of that was Killswitch.

  • the only bit i recognized was rose of sharyn by KSE

  • I'm actually a little shocked at how heavy the amp can get, it's not the kind of amp you'd think of using when playing Heavy Metal. Very impressive.

  • Yeah-I saw some bands playing them and they sounded pretty cool. The show I remembered the most was Evergreen Terrace. Not sure if they still use them,but they were when I saw them.

  • Oh, man.  Thanks for reminding me how hard Funeral of God rocks.

  • yep-yep :-)

  • I like it it's pretty versatile,if you work with it. I like Zao too. Esp funeral.

  • he played zao!! sounds like a mad amp

  • NICE TONE !!

  • It's PPC112 under Rocker head right ?

  • Yes-I believe this one was with the Orange 112.

  • is orange a good amp????

    i just discovered them now

    iv been using marshall and vox

  • Orange makes great stuff,so does Vox. Just use your ear man-everybody hears different things.

  • In your other review of the rocker 30, the amp sounded a LOT better. I suspect it has to do with that you had eminence speakers instead of the Orange cab with vintage 30:s. It sounded more heavy and focused. What eminence speakers are they and what did you use for cab?

    Your playing is Great :)

    /Staggero

  • Actually-this is the Orange 112 cab. My other demos is the Drive 212 with Eminence legends. I don't have a preference though. I just play what sounds good to me.

    Thanks for watching! :-)

  • Great sound

    That amp reminds me alot of the old Laney AOR series.

    Great clarity and crunch to it

  • I just accidentally removed someone's comment. It had to do with the muddiness and the camera. Listen to my new video to hear a different tone than this video, Nobody is trhe song. It is on my front page. It cam out awesome.

  • Depends on what you like. Slipknot/Stone Sour,Underoath,Evergreen Terrace. Check those out.

    Check out my new video(NOBODY) on my front page,that should give you an idea.

  • i dont see why everyone says Orange can't do metal. doesn't the guy from Slipknot/Stone Sour play them?

  • James Root does in stonesour but in Slipknot he plays a Rivera Knucklehead I believe, it's definitely a Rivera of some kind at least.

  • Naw, Jim uses a Rockerverb live now. The latest album was just the Rockerverb and a Diezel Herbert blended together.

  • Just wondering for comparison in size, is that a 112 cab adjacent to the 212 of which you are playing through? 112 vs. 212 for small venues with the Tiny Terror? Thanks Mel, awesome reviews by the way!

  • Dear Melbooker,

    The sound on the the orange kind of sounds muddy and deep when you were playing the metal riffs. Is that basically the normal sound for hard rock or metal that Orange amps produce? Also, is it possible to get more of a clear sounding distortion, like a marshall when when playing through an orange amp? I personally love the marshall plexi super lead amps that have been reissued now. They really do have amazing distortion.

  • The first part is just my guitar,and the amp. Part of the problem is that guitar is dark-plus the amp is pretty ballsy. But haven't played a marshall in a long time-so I'm not totally sure. Most likely if you like those marshalls-stick with that. I have Bill Lawrence pickups in my Vineyard(basswood body)-maybe i can do a metal demo with that. Check out stone sour,and evergreen terrace-tose two come to mind for orange amps.

    Thanks for watching.

  • You are absolutely correct, my friend. I keep saying that Orange amps aren't made for metal for the exact reasons you stated. Orange are good for sludgy metal. It's not a very tight, articulate tone. PEACE

  • Check out my new video. It is the Rocker 30 with the J & H from Visual Sound-it came out perfect.

  • My new video Nobody,is up on my front page. It is the Rocker 30 with a J & H from Visual sound.

  • nice tone, im using a rocker 30 combo and a jim root tele with active EMG's what are your eq settings for the demo and are you running straight to the amp or usind a booster or drive pedal?

  • I don't remember the settings-sorry :-) The second part I used a pedal to push it a little.

  • awesome ...ZAO!!

  • Haha I had a Drive amp like the one you are sitting on. It was probably the crappiest piece of gear I have ever owned lol.

  • Actually I am using their 212 cab with Eminence speakers-and I love it-built like a tank. I have been doing all my sessions with it. I also recorded my EP with it-I don't even use Orange cabs. Sorry to hear your amp did not work out for ya.

  • man the lead guitarist,TRAVIS, from THREAT SIGNAL. gave me word on this amp, that it can pack a mean heavy sound. you proved it man thx

  • wow probs, i find then difficult with not pick

  • You seem to use similar guitars in your videos. What kind of guitar is it?