Islam in Europe - When Muslims Ruled in Europe Part 4/11

[xariire]

maansha allah i knew already that islam is complete way of life, check out not islam ruled in europe but you learn from them a lot like sience mathmatics even papers to write with, onyone who seeking the truth please read the qur'an and campare with you believe. asalama alaikum muslims.

[justcoolstuff]

The great documentary of history. Her narration is supported from remains of "Andulus and Alhamra". No reason to doubt the integrity of great research scholar. She deserves admiration and appreciation to present lost chapter of history.

[algeria888]

i don't know why you're too much negative to her wonderful, because it is a wonderfu l one, video? i think you have to keep away what is happening now , which is all but Islam. and think that as Greek and Roman brought knowladge an other civilization ,named under a holy religion, brought knwoladge too.

[zorro14142]

'Not as moronic destroyers but "sometimes" as saviours'. Even if that might be true it sounds so biased, bethanny. --nothing personal

[glitzyside]

I dont understand why you're so pissed over this doc. Isent it great when Muslims appreciate how beautiful the contributions of Europe to world civilisation is? Why shudent Europeans also appreciate what Muslims did? Just bc its Islam and its a Nightmare that somethin good can come out of it?

I mean not 1, not 2 and 3...its 1000 professional historians of all backgrounds that agree on this stuff, so lets celebrate some peace & love ...and the historical Progress braught by Islam

[zorro14142]

glitzyside, I don't dispute the basic historical facts shown here but the subjective way they are presented, it all seems quite hypocritical to me.

[glitzyside]

I think its fine for a discoverer to enjoy his discovery ... Id do the same for Greek, Persian, Chinese, European civilisations .. why not Islamic! After all, the world is not divided into a childish GOOD and BAD, everyone screws up but everyone also has the potential to achieve somethin beautiful

cheers

[zorro14142]

I agree with the most things you are saying however I still dont fancy Bethanny, for me she seems pretty much like Michael Moore, showing some interesting facts but in an dishonest and cheezy manner. And this almost convinces one of the contrary.

[janak19771977]

the visigoths of spain were too very interesting and advanced culture in fact they vere the last remannt of roman culture left in western europe. i do not want to diminish the muslim spains archievments but i would like also to point that in the end muslims themself looked on the islamic spain as a weak and degenerate link

[OperationGibraltar]

No u r wrong. the goth culture was on sharp decline in Spain. People specially elites were not happy with the dynasty. Refer some impartial history books. Yes u r right in the end Muslims were too on decline and they became disunited, corrupt and disintegrated mong different sects and social factions. Because they conquered Spain by force and for expansion of their empire and did not focus on their roots i.e.(Islamic prefect social model).

[OperationGibraltar]

Humiliated expulsion of Muslims from Spain after 700 of magnificent rule gave a lesson to all Muslims. Some (maybe many) Muslims believe in so called Jihad or armed struggle (due to baseless propaganda by their insane, unaware scholars) that will give them supremacy. This big historic event was a lesson for them from God that Islam real might is in its teachings. Look at Muhammad' life and look todays Muslims totally opposite sides.I shall tell u very interesting thing if are interested??????

[janak19771977]

if you mean the muslim defeats in france and at vienna then you have to take in acount the muslim tactics.islamic armies vere usually based on mouted archery and light cavalry therefore vere fluid .european tactics vere used on shock and brute force.at tours the muslims were forced to atack dismouted heavy infatry led by superd general while the muslims vere not led all that well. at viena the similar thing happened plus the islam army was led by incompetent gemeral.

[OperationGibraltar]

not agreed.AbdurRehman was an excellent warrior so the martel was.But the way the battle went on & suddenly the tide turned it is quite strange.Martel did nothing extraordinary it was a queer rumor among Saracen army that forced them pay heed to their camp, loosing their concentration & the result was disaster.Muslim army defeated much more superior armies with their light cavalry. Viena siege also the result of hidden forces made ottomans depressed to lift the siege not any thing by opponents.

[glitzyside]

Contrary to Vienna were the general was clearly stupid, at tours (Poitiers) the leader was smart, the army was good ...but apparently they had massively looted alot of things alot which slowed them down

[OperationGibraltar]

but as I said, at tours, the way it happened it was very very strange not expected by an experienced Saracen army..........to dispersed so unprofessionally when the fight was not yet over and seemed to be not in favor of ant side.

[rocketMRC]

this is islam building and mosque.

[okanovic03]

because woman love justice and they find it in ISLAM.ISLAM HAS SOLUTION FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WEST

[janak19771977]

i seriously doubt it

[OperationGibraltar]

Why women r so much being attracted to Islam

[goldenage]

I guess they are gluttons for punishment.

[OperationGibraltar]

not that's not true. They are hunting for honour and respect

[janak19771977]

or they are the stupid ones...darwin in action

[OperationGibraltar]

Umayyads were great people, though they made some mistakes.

[goldenage]

and avocados are from the Americas.

[goldenage]

she is wrong about a few things. The artichoke originated in southern europe, and the Romans had lemons before the arabs.

[OperationGibraltar]

u may be right

[knightsofstjoan2004]

Islam should be wiped off the map of Europe. EUROPEANS FOR CHRISTIANITY! EUROPEAN JEWS FOR MESSIANIC JUDAISM!

[janak19771977]

finally some sense it is a shame to see such a great historian to sell out

[OperationGibraltar]

Muslims(present days) and Islam(unchanged as it was)are two opposite entities. Islam is perfect as it was but Muslim are astray unless they believe promised messiah.

[janak19771977]

iam bit of a history nut and and islam was pretty agresive in a past just as it is today

spain did not invade itself...not tu mention the devastation islamic hordes inflicted on eastern and centrall europe which is pert of history conviniently by muslims...in fact throught out the history europeans vere generally on the defensive...muslims vere generally the atackers

[OperationGibraltar]

If u mean Umayyads, Abbasids or ottomans then yes its true they adventured to expand their empires (neither Islam nor Caliphate). The Spanish, Constantinople or Belgrade expeditions were just for wealth not for religion and thats why they brought nothing but heavy losses to Muslims. If u r an history nut u must know about 2 wars that most of historians believe changed the face of Europe in which Muslims despite of many advantages unexpectedly defeated. And there lies the truth of Islam.

[janak19771977]

to which wars do you refer if you mean ww1 and ww2 then ww1 saw the break up of ottoman empire and ww2 did not really have anything direct to do with muslims. iam not sure that refering to muslim atacks on eastern europe as only for wealth is wrong. the final drive in to eastern europe which ended with battle of vienna was mainly religious drive which can be clearly documented. muslim albania kosovo and bosnia are living proov of islamisation of conguered teritories

[OperationGibraltar]

no both wars were in Umayyads times & almost all historians are agreed that had been Muslims succeeded in any on the two, it would have been an Islamic Europe today but the most unexpected and interesting aspect of bot wars is that Muslim armies were well united, experienced and quite superior to their opponents but they had to face failure in a very astonishing way. u know why? Bcz Allah made them defeat.

[glitzyside]

I love your analysis and I believed in this for so Long. Look at Indonesia, Pakistan, Malaysia and the Maghreb ..wherever Muslims "Spread The Message" population turn massively to Islam, but when they invade and Settle for "Physical earthly conquest" at in Spain and Eastern Europe, they were kicked out

[OperationGibraltar]

Thanks. Had Muslims succeeded in any one (as I mentioned formerly)wars and taken over Europe with sword the climax would be over, the human history 'd be over, the test of humans and objective of creation of universe 'd be over, the prophesies of Jesus, Muhammad (SAW) about end times 'd be over. So Allah made Muslims defeat and that's I meant "HIDDEN FORCES".

[teraSanam420]

thx bro 4 uploading!

[shabandragaj]

islam is comlet way of life mashalla

[actutus]

This series deals with medieval Moslems. While understanding medieval people is vital if modern people are to understand humanity and apply that knowledge to contemporary problems, we must not lose sight of the fact that medieval people are no longer alive today. Despite the insight their lives provide us, no contemporary person has the right to take credit or accept blame for the actions of others who lived long ago.

[OurBestLife]

islam is beautiful

islam is peace

we are a muslims and we respect all humanity.

the god(allah) say in the coran:

"O humankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made `you nations and tribes that ye may know one another."Quran (Al-Hujurat: 13)

thanks

[Changoyomi]

I am not Muslim, but I believe that all religions are beautiful. I read the Quran from time to time and find its verses inspiring.

I just wish that people would allow others to just BE without trying to force their views on others. My dad is of Moroccan descent.

[bathooon]

I am a muslim, and I share this view with you. I believe in goodness of human beings. I think 1 billion muslims and more are just judged by the act of few thousands..

I think we all would just look at the bigger picture..

Islam is beautiful :-)..

Thank you for these statements.

[massived3]

To see the true evil face of muslims watch them on YouTube at:

-Jakarta Riots, molesting dead Chinese women.

-Breslan School Siege, executing school children.

-The Real Islam Revealed, killing infidels.

-The Fruit of Islam in Europe, campaigning for the destruction of Europe.

-Islam Female Masturbation, on why women can't masturbate (seriously!).

-Muslim Convert Beheaded by Muslims in Kashmir (for leaving islam).

-9/11, 7/7, Bali -- no end.

Muslims = Peace? Believe your eyes.