@xTHExWASPx It might be gummed up after all those years. It probably needs a good cleaning/lube and to have the idler wheel resurfaced. I have a 55B that's never had a problem, so I haven't had to fix it. Their next generation (62, 42M, etc.) were much less reliable.
@lrd9999 i tried cleaning it the problem is when i slide the lever over to drop the record it doesnt drop the album it just stays in the up position. is the lever supposed to have some resistance when i slide it to auto? because mine feels like its not moving any sort of linkage.
@xTHExWASPx Most of the older models feel that way; they hit the same delicate trip mechanism that the arm activates at the end of the record. But, if it doesn't cycle at all (with no arm movement), it really isn't moving anything. Does the arm pick up at the end of the record it you play it by hand? On the other hand, if it is cycling, but the record doesn't drop, the spindle could be messed up. One common problem is the spring that holds the pusher blade up. Can you see the blade move at all?
@lrd9999 when i play it by hand the arm doesnt pick up at the end. i do remember though when i was cleaning it i moved something underneath and when i spun the table manually the arm did pick up and then begin to drop down where the begining of the record would be.
@xTHExWASPx The trip mechanism is triggered by pushing out a large tooth on the cam wheel that catches another over sized tooth on the platter flange. On most Garrards, this is a 2 piece clutch type thing to avoid ruining a record if the tooth binds or is pushed too far. It's possible the tooth itself is sticking. From looking at my 55B, I'd expect yours to trip if the arm is gently moved all the way to the center (past the label) until it hits a stop, but not by the force-limited "AUTO" slider.
If you can verify that the tooth is sticking, you can take off the platter and carefully un-stick it with WD40 (I've occasionally had to use ammonia to clean off really sticky grease). Be sure to keep keep oil and grease away from the rubbe idler wheel. tubie7 has a great video on how to get to these parts on a BSR, which is surprisingly similar to the 40B. Both are models of simplicity compared to some of the later Garrards. Hope this helps!
@xTHExWASPx I just put it on your channel comments. One thing I noticed in another video was a stern warning not to leave any oil or grease on the trip mechanism parts, to keep it from getting gummed up again (and possibly messing up the grooves near the end of the records). I doubt WD40 would cause much of a problem that way, but it might be worthwhile to clean most of it off with alcohol once you get rid of the original problem.
I have this one, even the cartridge was the same (an ADC i think) one channel went o/c on my cart so i fitted a shure m75. I had to clean the contacts of the headhsell slider too (intermittent sound).
this is almost identical to the more popular Sp25 mkiii. That had no autochanger, and a better arm counterweight
I remember these decks! The slightly 'cheaper' version with no automatic sensor, but they were awesome and had a 'sprung' turntable. I want one!!!!!!!!
@hackerhifi I've never trusted those brushes, it seems they would wreck havoc on the tracking and anti-skate settings. I like to glue a tiny shaver brush just ahead of the arm rest, so the stylus hits it whenever the arm crosses that point. However, if you still want the kind that drags on the record, there was a brand of pickup (Pickering, I think) that came with a weighted brush that pivots freely. It seemed more civilized than the kind which clips to the arm.
Why don't you put the arm across to hold the record and drop it level?
neiltreloar 10 months ago
I have a B-30 with a Pickering D ATE 4 cartridge. I lost the manual years ago and would like to check the tracking force and anti-skate. Thanks
1915fas 11 months ago
I had a 40B way back when. It's from about 1971-1972. Not one of their better models. Noisy.
manidig 2 years ago
i have this same turntable except my feature like this doesnt work. how can i fix this
xTHExWASPx 2 years ago
@xTHExWASPx It might be gummed up after all those years. It probably needs a good cleaning/lube and to have the idler wheel resurfaced. I have a 55B that's never had a problem, so I haven't had to fix it. Their next generation (62, 42M, etc.) were much less reliable.
lrd9999 1 year ago
@lrd9999 i tried cleaning it the problem is when i slide the lever over to drop the record it doesnt drop the album it just stays in the up position. is the lever supposed to have some resistance when i slide it to auto? because mine feels like its not moving any sort of linkage.
xTHExWASPx 1 year ago
@xTHExWASPx Most of the older models feel that way; they hit the same delicate trip mechanism that the arm activates at the end of the record. But, if it doesn't cycle at all (with no arm movement), it really isn't moving anything. Does the arm pick up at the end of the record it you play it by hand? On the other hand, if it is cycling, but the record doesn't drop, the spindle could be messed up. One common problem is the spring that holds the pusher blade up. Can you see the blade move at all?
lrd9999 1 year ago
@lrd9999 when i play it by hand the arm doesnt pick up at the end. i do remember though when i was cleaning it i moved something underneath and when i spun the table manually the arm did pick up and then begin to drop down where the begining of the record would be.
xTHExWASPx 1 year ago
@xTHExWASPx The trip mechanism is triggered by pushing out a large tooth on the cam wheel that catches another over sized tooth on the platter flange. On most Garrards, this is a 2 piece clutch type thing to avoid ruining a record if the tooth binds or is pushed too far. It's possible the tooth itself is sticking. From looking at my 55B, I'd expect yours to trip if the arm is gently moved all the way to the center (past the label) until it hits a stop, but not by the force-limited "AUTO" slider.
lrd9999 1 year ago
If you can verify that the tooth is sticking, you can take off the platter and carefully un-stick it with WD40 (I've occasionally had to use ammonia to clean off really sticky grease). Be sure to keep keep oil and grease away from the rubbe idler wheel. tubie7 has a great video on how to get to these parts on a BSR, which is surprisingly similar to the 40B. Both are models of simplicity compared to some of the later Garrards. Hope this helps!
lrd9999 1 year ago
@lrd9999 i cant find that video you are talking about. can you link me that video. but anyway ill give what you said a try. thanks
xTHExWASPx 1 year ago
@xTHExWASPx I just put it on your channel comments. One thing I noticed in another video was a stern warning not to leave any oil or grease on the trip mechanism parts, to keep it from getting gummed up again (and possibly messing up the grooves near the end of the records). I doubt WD40 would cause much of a problem that way, but it might be worthwhile to clean most of it off with alcohol once you get rid of the original problem.
lrd9999 1 year ago
@lrd9999 could you resend me that link again in a personal message because i dont see it in my comments box.
xTHExWASPx 1 year ago
I have this one, even the cartridge was the same (an ADC i think) one channel went o/c on my cart so i fitted a shure m75. I had to clean the contacts of the headhsell slider too (intermittent sound).
this is almost identical to the more popular Sp25 mkiii. That had no autochanger, and a better arm counterweight
kitschetc 2 years ago
I have a Garrard Turntable Model 42 3 speed 33,45,78
8trackworld 3 years ago
Garrard turntables are the best
8trackworld 3 years ago
Those 40Bs were everywhere.
gli7utubeo 3 years ago
Even here in Brazil :)
Actually i have a very same model in my collection, although mine is installed on a different plinth / dustcover.
billaggio 2 years ago
You should swing the holder arm onto the top of the stack to hold the record straight before it drops. Nice clip though.
shinri1 3 years ago
You need to put that arm that is above the tonearm out over the record for correct operation.
turntablesrock 3 years ago
No substitute for a Garrard! ;)
rayflute 4 years ago
it is a garrard
kspencerg 3 years ago
I know it is. I was just saying you can't beat them! :)
rayflute 3 years ago
I remember these decks! The slightly 'cheaper' version with no automatic sensor, but they were awesome and had a 'sprung' turntable. I want one!!!!!!!!
Trunker1 4 years ago
Nice turntable!
CassetteMaster 4 years ago
Good Old Garrard decks, very reliable.
Love the little cleaning brush on the pick up, anyone know where I can buy one ?
hackerhifi 4 years ago
@hackerhifi I've never trusted those brushes, it seems they would wreck havoc on the tracking and anti-skate settings. I like to glue a tiny shaver brush just ahead of the arm rest, so the stylus hits it whenever the arm crosses that point. However, if you still want the kind that drags on the record, there was a brand of pickup (Pickering, I think) that came with a weighted brush that pivots freely. It seemed more civilized than the kind which clips to the arm.
lrd9999 1 year ago