The Phones Show 84 (Nokia N86, Symbian interview)

[gavrilaeugen]

early firmware :(( un update ?

[stevelitchfield]

Of course. Hey, it's a Nokia! They do take an update or three to really get going with a device. As do Apple, I should note!

[gavrilaeugen]

the n95 8 have more setting on camera than this n86 :))

[stevelitchfield]

No, it's just that all the extra options have been hidden - use 'Customise toolbar' on the menu.

[gavrilaeugen]

steve can u look on your videos when u shoot whit the n86 end be attention on your glases tell me if u notice something

[stevelitchfield]

Err.... my sensitive and knowledgeable eyes?

[gavrilaeugen]

=)))))))) lol

[gavrilaeugen]

around the lens of your glases

[stevelitchfield]

Go on then, stop teasing!

[Temporaryaccount2]

extreme dusk?? haha

[stevelitchfield]

By that I mean that the sun had set and that it really was quite dark - yet the photo looks like daytime. Amazing.

[LucianoDevonte]

just look on phonearena,gsmarena ,mobile review they all say innov and renoir is over N86 in photo quality.....i mean there is no 8 Mp camera that takes better pics than innov 8 in daylight conditions.I agree that N86 haves a good camera and that it takes better videos but the photo quality is one of worst just look at the pics the are smudged specially in landscapes

[stevelitchfield]

Well, the one thing I *will* admit is that Nokia's image processing algorithms suck when it comes to greenery/grass/trees - everything gets smudged to high heaven. The N86 will win if you took 100 photos in all situations and light conditions though - it's a super all rounder.

[LucianoDevonte]

yeah your right maybe N86 is better overall because of the video and stronger led but most people are using there phone for shooting in daylight conditions and there innov/renoir are better(renoir even in dark conditions and video resolution) ,sometimes the pics look even better in fullsize....And N86 is to late on the market it should have been released in the last november to be a real success....I would have bought this phone if it had exactly the same specs,xenon,and candybar shape

[stevelitchfield]

Oh, agree about your last point but, hey, we can't have everything, it seems!

[TBooster64]

Great review and I agree the N86 is the best cellphone camera in the world today!

I understand why TIPA give the N86 the best camera in 2009 award.

I got the N86 couple of weeks ago and most say I love it !

Keep up the good work

[ResetOriginal]

do you know if the white version of the n86 will come out?

[stevelitchfield]

I dare say. Might be in other countries though.

[aaaarrroo]

so would you rather hav the n86 to the n97?

and when is the n86 cumming out?

[stevelitchfield]

Yes. Two weeks ago.

[steo2008]

i could not see it out in the uk like is it on what network.

[steo2008]

anyone know when the nokia n86 is coming out to buy and date been issued yet.

[stevelitchfield]

Err.... it's been out in the UK for weeks!

[LucianoDevonte]

well steve every review proves that it's one of the worst...:( at least not on the same page with the renoir and innov8

[stevelitchfield]

Eh? In our tests on AAS, the N86's photos were better than the INNOV8's. Sorry, still disagree. The INNOV8 is pretty darned good as a camera, but the N86 is better - AND the N86 completely trounces the INNOV8 at video recording.

[wevenhuis]

Great show. Nice interviews. I like the honesty that Ed is using a samsung phone.

[08cct353rajanh]

his samsung probly runs symbian tho

[LucianoDevonte]

to bad that the N86 haves one of the worst 8MP camera on the market

[stevelitchfield]

Don't believe it. I'd say it's one of the best.

[pachinko1972]

I think Nokia needs to start from scratch on the OS. Symbian2 better not be the same OS with a UI thrown in. People are moving to the Iphone,Android, PRE.

[mult61]

in headphones and speakers

[stevelitchfield]

Headphones great, external speakers not so great...

[mult61]

how is the sound quality of the N86 compared to the N82 ?

[stevelitchfield]

You mean for music playback over headphones?

[burkmat]

I get more and more interested in N86, really hope Nokia will release a candybar with that camera soon!

[trevsweb]

sounds like S60 bitched about your review of the n86 and made you change your oppinion :/

[stevelitchfield]

You mean the E75? Nope, not had contact with Nokia. I simply started yearning for a good qwerty keyboard again and tried using the E75 day to day. Plenty of downsides to the E75, but the keyboard is pretty darned impressive. Not for everyone, though.

[trevsweb]

i think i would like it more if the screen was larger maybe similer to the 5800

[tomcane8]

Was your N86 a prototype, or was it the finished thing? Also, would the N86 be in your top 5? Thanks

[stevelitchfield]

It was retail. And yes, tempted to put it in my top 5, but it might get ousted by the 'No more than 2 Nokias' rule 8-)

[tomcane8]

Not sure why you have these rules. I think it's best if you maybe stop these "2 devices per manufacturer" rules and maybe increase top 5 to top 8?

[Rewesmac]

Great show! I watch every episode and I'm always eagerly wating for a new one. Thank You!

[dimsum05]

This is the only video podcast I watch multiple times on the same day. Great show Steve!

[BuDaddy2]

Best show yet, well done Steve.

[adtrea]

Great show, Steve. Must admit I quite like the music from the Symbian Foundation bit at the end. The N86 seems quite good, early firmware aside. One thing though, did Lee Williams tell you when he can show you that prototype?:P

[stevelitchfield]

Ah yes, I wondered whether I should press him on that.... but decided not to push my luck!!!

[gshab]

nice one Steve

[TzBom]

So, when the Symiban^2 (the first Symbian foundation software) will be finished?

Is it true, that it will run on S60 V5 FP1 UI?

Will we get some more "fancy" efects in the UI, like in the iphone? Or is it going to be the same as in the S60V5?

[stevelitchfield]

No idea, though I'd guess it will be similar. See Symbian's David Wood's blog, for details on timescales.

[Jaggabone]

Steve ... 1st off this was a SOLID show!! Of all your previous interviews this was an nice impromptu and intimate interview very relaxed and answered a question I've had and understood the answer before getting "oh the places you'll go" is my blog post on this.

Symbian^2 enables the ability for more GUI impressive feats but nothing major - look at the SE Satio and what its capable of as a hint - superb really and unique doesn't follow iPhone like so many other companies do at so many levels.