@cordrip2 the scientific name ,and main name of this lion alway been persian lion,from old latin,greeks,others.there is not such a thing as indian lion.
recntly bc the only inhabitant remaining of this lions are in india.indians claim such a lie!!
go to any animal site,scientific site ,see its persian lion:
scientific name is(:Panthera leo persica) means persian lion.persica is persian in latin.
@gobbenatoren Well that seemed to be what many people in the comments were insisting, and it seems as if they aren't doing as much running as african lions. Plus they don't have much genetic diversity if they all came from 20 individuals. But if they aren't weaker, even better! :)
Yes. Im sure in history Asiatic Lions were the same size as African lions, because they are more closely related to Barbary lions, which are the biggest recent subspecies. if they weren't hunted so badly and so badl inbred, they would be bigger and have fuller,darker manes.
well , time to cull the indian population, hope the leopards will come and control the population since all the irresponsible indian population keep making the wildlife lose their habitat. I do not want to see anymore digital animated or stuffed animals.
@prakashjk yes & they have. there are 411 asian lions as of april 2010. Thats very close to the siberian tiger population. & it will increase even more
Loving it! Keep up the good work 105km. If you carry on uploading this many videos, you'll have well over 1000 subscribers before the end of the year.
Think! How much diversity the indian subcontinent would have if not for such overpopulation! India has the bigest variety of deer spiecies anywhere in the worlds, it has gaurs, rhino, elephants, antilopes, monkeys etc!
And look at the variety of big predators: Wolves, dholes, tigers, lions, leopards, striped hyenas, cheetahs, snow leopards, crocodiles.
And all these animals lived there before the begining of the last century! So sad...
Do not bith about Inidian Population. It was british, Moguls, Rajas and Maharajas who fucked up Indian wild life.
Yes, There use be 200 different species of India Deer before.
Indian wild life does not suprise me since India was part of African continent some 50 million years ago and that is the only reason it has wild life similar to Afarica,
lol where did you get India was part of Africa? And even if it was, the fauna 50 million years ago was alot different then it is now. Tere were no deer 50 million years ago, thats for sure.
If you look at ancient Indian wild life, it is similar to Africa. I allways wondered why?
Only puzzel fits is that India broke off from african continent so 40 to 50 million years ago.
How did you know if there were no deer 50 million years ago? Becuase we do not know that does not mean they did not exist. African existed way way way before europians discovered it. :)
trust mee - deer (cervidae) of the order artyodactyla were not present 50 million years ago. I doubt the order artyodactyla (even-toed ungalates) had evolved yet. And the reason India has somewhat similar wildlife to Africa is rather becouse of its similar terrain and landscape. And its not that similar. For instance, India is dominated by deer as far as I know, yet there is only 1 species of deer in Africa.
Oh about 40 to 50 million years ago India was part of African continent. Plate tectonic effect saparated India from Africa and it hit the aisatic plate creating Himalayas. India is still on collusion course with Asiatic plate and HImalaya is still raising. India does have similar wild life in sence, it has Elephant, Rinos, leopard, Chittas, deers, wild baffalos, wild dogs(in packs) etc. India stands next to Africa in terms of wild life, asia and europe do not have Jack shit.
Fine, but thats today. I sugest you learn about Europe and North and South America, Australia 10 000 years ago - before the great extinction, brought on by man. Naturaly, Europe would have a wery diverse, wery ''African like'' fauna too with mamoths, sabertooths, wolly rhinos, cave bears etc. And that was only 10 000 years ago - less then a blink of an eye in geological terms.
50 million years ago - that was just 10 million years after the 65 million bc mass extinction. Mammals were only begining to diversify. Artiodactyls has only just evolved at that time, and they only resembled mouse deer, trust me - there were no deer at that time. Carnivora had yet to evolve - so ne lions or wolves either.
@savita, nice point but its speculation..One of the other reason could be..when there is a drought in Africa the animals migrate out,step by step trough Arabia,Iran and finally India.They went extinct in Arabia and Persia becoz it became a desert while India still had forests that could sustain them!! and also the local culture was more friendly to wild life!!
This also explains why Indian mammals r smaller, i think each drought hit migration had its effects!
We know, for a fact that, 50 million years ago when she sayes, India connected to Asia, there were no lions, no deer. The Carnivora are a group, thats less then 50 million years old, and so is the artiodactyla and not to meantion cervidae (deer), so India, once being connected to Africa could not possibly be responsible to the somewhat similar fauna.
Its about climate. And no - animals do not migrate out of continents like that. They just spread.
Yes, Animal do migrate great distance to survie. This is well documented in the TV dicmentries that I have seen. Elephants Migrate long distance. In Africa, Plane of sarenghty they have migration that take full one years to finish for windebeast in clock wise fashion, that sustain african wild life in Seregeti plane. Rain deer can trave 3100 miles per year via migration in Alaska area in U.S.A.
May be animal Migration may have helped human migration out out Africa.
When i said Migration i did not mean in one generation, this may have taken hundreds or thousands of years!! My theory was that the droughts drove the Herbivorous animals in search of greener pasture and where the Herbivorous animals go the hunters follow behind!! This was documented in Sahara where the Lions followed the Addax Antelopes.
When you use a general term such as "spread" then it does not cover the entire question of "how"!
''They went extinct in Arabia and Persia becoz it became a desert''
Nope, there were lions, leopards and cheetahs and different antilopes in the middle east, all the Arabian paninsula and Iran, Afganistan Pakistan, all the way to Indostan up untill like 50 years ago.
They are Arabic lions. As far as I know, there are three types of Asiatic Lions.
Arabian, Persian, And Bengal. These lions are also sometimes called Persian Lions. I know that all Asiatic subspecies are very closely related to Barbary Lions. Atlas lions(although living in Africa) were more similar to Asiatic Lions.
No sorry. I just know that these lions are either Bengal or Iranian. I also know that European Cave Lions could be the link between Barbary Lions and Asiatic lions. Im guessing Barbary Lions had a strong link with Cave Lions, that's why they're so big.
What's intriguing is how many cave lion renderings on cave walls only show maneless lions which may indicate that the males may had been maneless like the male lions of Tsavo.
Odd since genetically they were closer to the Barbary.
Yeah but they did have a primitive ruff though. I dont technically believe in evolution in species but I still think animals can change subspecies over time. There is no doubt about that.
I wish we could see the Asiatic Lion in all its glory. Its main foods, the Water Buffalo, Onager, Nilgai, and blackbuck were all wiped out or nearly wiped out. Because of this it is smalelr. It mainly feeds on deer now. Due to being highly inbred, males are not as healthy and they have smaller manes.
''and also the local culture was more friendly to wild life!!''
Im sorry to say, but this bid made me lough. What culture? There have been people in India and the middle east only since like 50 or 40 000 bc. Are you seriously implying that the animals that made your little migration did it so recently? Sorry sir, you have no insight
i am sorry but i feel your one of those types that does not go beyond what is scientific or conventional! When the British or others tried to cut the forest the Maladaris people went and hugged the trees.. they would rather have died clinging to the tree than let people deforest it! In your own words the Lions went extinct only in the last 50 years! I know there where Asaitic lions in Iran etc., I may have been wrong with the desert partially..Even then the forest in India gave better cover!
Clealy you dont no anything about lions if u knew ur history ud know that tigers mostly won when faced agaist lions, in the roman colloseum
SE8fam 3 months ago
@cordrip2 the scientific name ,and main name of this lion alway been persian lion,from old latin,greeks,others.there is not such a thing as indian lion.
recntly bc the only inhabitant remaining of this lions are in india.indians claim such a lie!!
go to any animal site,scientific site ,see its persian lion:
scientific name is(:Panthera leo persica) means persian lion.persica is persian in latin.
go learn abit.
sspersian 6 months ago
@sspersian
I doubt the Lion cares what you or anyone else calls it.
harlequin75 3 months ago
Asiatic lions where also the first lions they used against tigers and bears... and mostly won incredible lion
andyrose8519 7 months ago
Asiatic lion are stealth hunters.
1NX9 10 months ago
small ass shit, african lion is where its at.
thundag0d 11 months ago
the name is Persian lion not Asian lion.even scientific name is:Panthera leo persica in Latin which mean PERSIAN LION.
how u guys change the names??
sspersian 1 year ago
@sspersian Persia is technically in Asia, so who cares?
Dzongka 3 months ago
I think the asiatic lions are prettier looking, even if they are weaker. I like their manes.
MujakiKid 1 year ago
@MujakiKid What makes you think its weaker?
gobbenatoren 1 year ago
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MujakiKid 1 year ago
@gobbenatoren Well that seemed to be what many people in the comments were insisting, and it seems as if they aren't doing as much running as african lions. Plus they don't have much genetic diversity if they all came from 20 individuals. But if they aren't weaker, even better! :)
MujakiKid 1 year ago
These male lions look nothing like African lions.... they look skinny and weak.
MulekeDoido6669 1 year ago
wow , lions in india , soon , lions will meet bengal tigers , mother nature!!!!
MuerteyMalevolencia 1 year ago
Interesting how this type of lion still retains the more archaic "belly fold" whereas the African lions do not.
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
Yes. Im sure in history Asiatic Lions were the same size as African lions, because they are more closely related to Barbary lions, which are the biggest recent subspecies. if they weren't hunted so badly and so badl inbred, they would be bigger and have fuller,darker manes.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
Agree sadly these lions may had reached a bottleneck, not enough of them.
Maybe a selective breeding program with some Barbary lion stock may help in more ways than one.
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
These are nothing like the Barbary Lions of the ancient times. There's so much inbreeding with these Lions that they've lost their legendary status.
India won't introduce the wild Barbary Lions found in Morocco. If only they would it would revive their gene pool.
Naturalhit 2 years ago
I hope these lion population get increased rather than the Indian population getting Increased :P
prakashjk 2 years ago 14
well , time to cull the indian population, hope the leopards will come and control the population since all the irresponsible indian population keep making the wildlife lose their habitat. I do not want to see anymore digital animated or stuffed animals.
MingTheMerciful 2 years ago
@prakashjk yes & they have. there are 411 asian lions as of april 2010. Thats very close to the siberian tiger population. & it will increase even more
TheBuffaloKiller 1 year ago
@TheBuffaloKiller I really hope their number keep going up, not down
tiffanielynne100 10 months ago
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MrJamey21 6 months ago
@prakashjk noooooooooo!!!!!.....im an indian and as a indian i defend my race......but i do like asiatic lions, the cubs are sooooo cute:)
talex709 4 months ago
@talex709 you go girl!
cranbjuice13 2 weeks ago
dude omgggglove alll your vids dude awesome job great vids 5 stars
malecougerstrong 2 years ago
Loving it! Keep up the good work 105km. If you carry on uploading this many videos, you'll have well over 1000 subscribers before the end of the year.
OzzieDogz 2 years ago
Thanks man!
Think! How much diversity the indian subcontinent would have if not for such overpopulation! India has the bigest variety of deer spiecies anywhere in the worlds, it has gaurs, rhino, elephants, antilopes, monkeys etc!
And look at the variety of big predators: Wolves, dholes, tigers, lions, leopards, striped hyenas, cheetahs, snow leopards, crocodiles.
And all these animals lived there before the begining of the last century! So sad...
105km 2 years ago
Do not bith about Inidian Population. It was british, Moguls, Rajas and Maharajas who fucked up Indian wild life.
Yes, There use be 200 different species of India Deer before.
Indian wild life does not suprise me since India was part of African continent some 50 million years ago and that is the only reason it has wild life similar to Afarica,
savita1926 2 years ago
@savita1926
lol where did you get India was part of Africa? And even if it was, the fauna 50 million years ago was alot different then it is now. Tere were no deer 50 million years ago, thats for sure.
105km 2 years ago
If you look at ancient Indian wild life, it is similar to Africa. I allways wondered why?
Only puzzel fits is that India broke off from african continent so 40 to 50 million years ago.
How did you know if there were no deer 50 million years ago? Becuase we do not know that does not mean they did not exist. African existed way way way before europians discovered it. :)
savita1926 2 years ago
@savita1926
trust mee - deer (cervidae) of the order artyodactyla were not present 50 million years ago. I doubt the order artyodactyla (even-toed ungalates) had evolved yet. And the reason India has somewhat similar wildlife to Africa is rather becouse of its similar terrain and landscape. And its not that similar. For instance, India is dominated by deer as far as I know, yet there is only 1 species of deer in Africa.
105km 2 years ago
Oh about 40 to 50 million years ago India was part of African continent. Plate tectonic effect saparated India from Africa and it hit the aisatic plate creating Himalayas. India is still on collusion course with Asiatic plate and HImalaya is still raising. India does have similar wild life in sence, it has Elephant, Rinos, leopard, Chittas, deers, wild baffalos, wild dogs(in packs) etc. India stands next to Africa in terms of wild life, asia and europe do not have Jack shit.
savita1926 2 years ago
@savita1926
Fine, but thats today. I sugest you learn about Europe and North and South America, Australia 10 000 years ago - before the great extinction, brought on by man. Naturaly, Europe would have a wery diverse, wery ''African like'' fauna too with mamoths, sabertooths, wolly rhinos, cave bears etc. And that was only 10 000 years ago - less then a blink of an eye in geological terms.
105km 2 years ago
@savita1926
50 million years ago - that was just 10 million years after the 65 million bc mass extinction. Mammals were only begining to diversify. Artiodactyls has only just evolved at that time, and they only resembled mouse deer, trust me - there were no deer at that time. Carnivora had yet to evolve - so ne lions or wolves either.
105km 2 years ago
@savita, nice point but its speculation..One of the other reason could be..when there is a drought in Africa the animals migrate out,step by step trough Arabia,Iran and finally India.They went extinct in Arabia and Persia becoz it became a desert while India still had forests that could sustain them!! and also the local culture was more friendly to wild life!!
This also explains why Indian mammals r smaller, i think each drought hit migration had its effects!
KarthikSoun 2 years ago
@KarthikSoun
We know, for a fact that, 50 million years ago when she sayes, India connected to Asia, there were no lions, no deer. The Carnivora are a group, thats less then 50 million years old, and so is the artiodactyla and not to meantion cervidae (deer), so India, once being connected to Africa could not possibly be responsible to the somewhat similar fauna.
Its about climate. And no - animals do not migrate out of continents like that. They just spread.
105km 2 years ago
Yes, Animal do migrate great distance to survie. This is well documented in the TV dicmentries that I have seen. Elephants Migrate long distance. In Africa, Plane of sarenghty they have migration that take full one years to finish for windebeast in clock wise fashion, that sustain african wild life in Seregeti plane. Rain deer can trave 3100 miles per year via migration in Alaska area in U.S.A.
May be animal Migration may have helped human migration out out Africa.
savita1926 2 years ago
When i said Migration i did not mean in one generation, this may have taken hundreds or thousands of years!! My theory was that the droughts drove the Herbivorous animals in search of greener pasture and where the Herbivorous animals go the hunters follow behind!! This was documented in Sahara where the Lions followed the Addax Antelopes.
When you use a general term such as "spread" then it does not cover the entire question of "how"!
KarthikSoun 2 years ago
True, India has a very similar climate and landscape to Sub-Saharan Africa, therefore similar animals.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
@KarthikSoun
''They went extinct in Arabia and Persia becoz it became a desert''
Nope, there were lions, leopards and cheetahs and different antilopes in the middle east, all the Arabian paninsula and Iran, Afganistan Pakistan, all the way to Indostan up untill like 50 years ago.
105km 2 years ago
He is somewhat right. In Iraq, there were HUGE forests where lions lived. But sooner or later they dissapeared because the forest did.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
I wonder if the ancient lions of Iraq were more closely related to P. Spelaea that Panthera Leo leo?
To my knowledge I don't recollect if any genome testing were done on these lions.
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
They are Arabic lions. As far as I know, there are three types of Asiatic Lions.
Arabian, Persian, And Bengal. These lions are also sometimes called Persian Lions. I know that all Asiatic subspecies are very closely related to Barbary Lions. Atlas lions(although living in Africa) were more similar to Asiatic Lions.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
Nice info, TY.
Would you know if any genome testing were done on these Arabic lions?
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
No sorry. I just know that these lions are either Bengal or Iranian. I also know that European Cave Lions could be the link between Barbary Lions and Asiatic lions. Im guessing Barbary Lions had a strong link with Cave Lions, that's why they're so big.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
Again many thanks, glad to meet other great minds on YouTube. :)
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
What's intriguing is how many cave lion renderings on cave walls only show maneless lions which may indicate that the males may had been maneless like the male lions of Tsavo.
Odd since genetically they were closer to the Barbary.
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
Yeah but they did have a primitive ruff though. I dont technically believe in evolution in species but I still think animals can change subspecies over time. There is no doubt about that.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
Totally agree with you regarding that.
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
I wish we could see the Asiatic Lion in all its glory. Its main foods, the Water Buffalo, Onager, Nilgai, and blackbuck were all wiped out or nearly wiped out. Because of this it is smalelr. It mainly feeds on deer now. Due to being highly inbred, males are not as healthy and they have smaller manes.
NorthCitySider 2 years ago
Unfortunately true. The same thing happened with the Florida Panther. Isolated small populations eventually lead to dead endings.
Glad that this remant still survives for all to see.
PantheraAtrox 2 years ago
@PantheraAtrox
Im with you , hey u really love this animals don't you?
MuerteyMalevolencia 1 year ago
@MuerteyMalevolencia , yes, all living creatures are miracles.
Lions remind me a lot of human nature.
PantheraAtrox 1 year ago
@PantheraAtrox
hehehe i see :-)
MuerteyMalevolencia 1 year ago
@MuerteyMalevolencia , ;)
PantheraAtrox 1 year ago
@KarthikSoun
''and also the local culture was more friendly to wild life!!''
Im sorry to say, but this bid made me lough. What culture? There have been people in India and the middle east only since like 50 or 40 000 bc. Are you seriously implying that the animals that made your little migration did it so recently? Sorry sir, you have no insight
105km 2 years ago
i am sorry but i feel your one of those types that does not go beyond what is scientific or conventional! When the British or others tried to cut the forest the Maladaris people went and hugged the trees.. they would rather have died clinging to the tree than let people deforest it! In your own words the Lions went extinct only in the last 50 years! I know there where Asaitic lions in Iran etc., I may have been wrong with the desert partially..Even then the forest in India gave better cover!
KarthikSoun 2 years ago