Hey s'up party people ?!...this is just BIG UP to the comment up here ! ....to MsTempest22...I'd like to thank that person and give much respect because I'm 36 years old and that the first time of my life that hear the precise word that express what I feel about the transformation of HIP-HOP !!!...sometimes feel alone to think like that !!....thanks again...as far as I'm concerned, OLD SCHOOL will never die out !...no matter what's comming next ! Peace from Europe...
@KiddJetix Damn! Now THAT'S what I'm talkin about!!! Stayin up till 2am and recording Mr. Magic on my box and taking it to the streets the next day!! Mr. Magic took it to a whole new level! R.I.P. Mr, Magic!!
This is when Hip Hop was real. we should have an old school block party in NYC to bring this shit back to life and get rid of this new shit that is derogatory and racist.
Rap back in the day was universal among all races and was about FUN! There were no race barriers and you never heard the N word!!
Yea!! I agree.There's nothing like hearing these ol' joints.The new music out these days is nothing in comparison to what paived the way for the new skool music.Much respect to all the pioneers
Sorry just saw this late but I think Tuff Crew had the greatest song ever that didnt go national.. with My Part of Town... and Jewel T with kick the ball
the positive energy in hiphop is gone..too many copycat rappers killed the culture and clueless kids think they hiphop..hiphop is all 4 elements,not some greedy rapper talking that juvenile garbage.
Ahhh, The F4 I remember seeing them perform back on Thanksgiving night "1982" at the Hotel Philadelpha in Downtown Philly.
It was The Treachorous 3, Fearless 4, Disco 4, Kool Kyle Starchild, & Phillys own Grand Master Nell & MC Ceasar along with their crew "Punk Funk Nation" Cowgirl, Robbie B & Jazz,
Grand Masters Of Funk was there & DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Network Crew featuring Rolly Rabb the faster rapper in Philly! Ahhh Yeeah..
@Pirate7X Tuff Crew?? (LOL) Naaw bro, they weren't even on the map at that time TC didn't have any fame until '86 they may have been apart of little neighborhood crews cause when they first came on Lady B's Street Beat Show we were like "Who R these M-F'ers? (LOL)
Back then only a few people had records in Philly at that time.
@Pirate: In '82 it was all about your neighborhood crews & having lots & lots of speakers, lights, 4-8 turntables, lots of rapping & scratching, breaking, graffiti, etc.
I just turned 15 @ the time so most of TC were probaly 15 & under they wasn't making no records (LOL) probably rappin & scratching like I was but no record deal yet.
@billyjacc Man, I attended 9th grade with JOEY Hicks (DJ Too Tuff) of Tuff Crew. Not sure when he made the transition from red haired nerd who bullied the nerds to DJ. Does his attending St. Joseph's Preparatory High School for boys kill his tuff image street credibility? LOL
@AmayaCrazy LOL not really cuzz a lot of em that recorded were just about image besides Schooly D (5-2PSK 4 Real) just like NWA & many others coast to coast who just were around those elements but weren't G's 4Real.
Besides, with HM Flash, GM Nell, DJ Cash Money, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Lightning Rich, Baby DST, & DJ Miz, this kids name never even came up in a convo of Philly Hot DJ's.
I've NEVER Heard about him battleing anybody at a Spinathon, DMC, Nu Music Seminar, etc; He was just the TC white boy DJ (LOL)
@billyjacc LOL Man, you mentioned a name that should have nationally shined FAR brighter than what he did; Cash Money. Words could not begin to encompass his skill and technique. To be banned from the World DJ Championship??? LOL
@AmayaCrazy Yeah Cash is Hottt.., I have some footage of him a few years back at the Philly Urban Ledgend Awards and he was in our movie with John Canada Terrell called "The Story Of Breakout & Chill"..
These were the days of hip hop and New York culture. I'm 37 and saddened by the state of "hip hop" because most ot what I see and hear has nothing to do with what I was raised on. Its such a slap in the face to the "pioneers" who paved the way and now the torch is being passed around by a bunch of wannabes who don't have a clue to how hard all the fly girls and fly guys worked. No one knew this street culture would turn the world on its ear. Peace to all who came before. Thank you so much!!
@crystalglobe1 I'm so glad someone understands what I'm tallking about. It seems like these "youngins" don't want to listen to reason when us older heads try to explain how it "used to be" and how nothing came easy but all the hard work paid off. If it weren't for the "oldschool/trueschool" classics, I don't know what I would listen to "Today". What's "available" today really doesn't interest me. I can buy "1" credible hip hop artists' work but there are 10 other fools handling the mike!!
I agree with you. I think the industry/record executives ruined hip hop (and even soul music for that matter). Nowadays, the industry is driven by IMAGE; SKILL has taken a back seat. In fact, skill is not needed anymore: only a gimmick and the support of a major record label.
I feel bad for the true hip hop artists who are "carrying the torch" of hip hop's forefathers because they are the ones the general public will likely never discover.
I'm so happy you undestand what I've been trying to say. It's like you cannot have a decent conversation these days in regards to Hip Hop because of all the garbage that's passed around as "Hip Hop" music. No one thinks an intelligent conversation can take place because of the condition the industry is in. To all of us in a certain age group, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!! It wasn't always like this and we can't live in the past forever but what else is there to listen to today?!
There is not much to listen to today. My standards are too high, and today's brand of hip hop does not satisfy me, to say the least.
Many young people see nothing wrong with today's hip hop. You and I have a reference point because we witnessed the "Golden Age" when hip hop had substance and originality. We witnessed the era in which biting another artist's style was an unforgiveable sin. Nowadays, nearly every rapper sounds alike and follows a formula........
....that their slavemasters (I meant record labels) created for them.
I honestly believe the WORST rappers of yesteryear were probably more skilled than some of the so-called BEST rappers of today.
I am just thankful I was alive to experience the quality years of hip hop. I could not imagine growing up as a teen today when the likes of Lil Wayne and Souljah Boy are the most popular hip hop artists of the day.
True!!!!!!!! True!!!!!!!!!!! True!!!!!!!!! Sad!!!!!!! Sad!!!!!!!!!!! Sad!!!!!!!!!!! The saddest part is that the "talent" is so limited and below par!!! I'll just have to invest in a cassette player to listen to all of my old tapes!!! People can laugh at that comment if they want to, but I'd rather listen to material from back in the day before I ever "download" or purchase out of the store the GARBAGE that's being passed for music today!!!!!!!
@MsTempest22 you can't honestly think its the artists fault. i mean, im 19 and theres some mainstream music i like, but im alot more into old school stuff but wouldnt you put some consideration into the fact that people realized that hip-hop music could be industrialized? thats why its so bad nowadays, i dont thinkk its entirely the artist fault.
Good evening all you super listeners fly guys and fly girls welcome once again to the worlds famous Mr.Magic rap attack and I am your host for this evening super rockin Mr.Magic!!! better known as Sir Juice.. Classic WHBI with the Awsome 2, The Supreme Team...D N A & Hank Love,Jerry Bloodrock and so many more NY /Nj/CT/ stand up.. Im still rocking those tapes.. Now back to those Worlds famous Supreme Team Breaks... TNL what up...
Oh yes, WHBI! I used to stay up so late in my basement with my record player, all my rap records, I had everything! The stereo system was on WHBI when it got late! Ahhh, those were the days!
great tip, i can see how they didn't sample it, the bassline is higher in the mix and sounds like they did the keyboard melody of the orig. with the bass... was just comparing their followup "Rocking It" with the Man Machine KRFTWRK loop and I reckon they flipped it in their own way... PUMPKIN & FRIENDS !!!
@teoruz Yep,Yep, I played that bass line. Pumpkin gave it to me but I didn't know where it came from..but now I know. I also played the bass line to Foxy Brown's, "Big Bad Mama", which ended up as the opening song for the movie, "How to be a player",...Those two tracks made me 100$, total.....you live and learn...It's not too bad not being rich...I'm still alive and that's more precious than gold....R.I.P. Pumpkin, you Funked hard!!!
I used to live in Atlantic City, NY in the early 80's, and where I lived, if you put the radio just right, moved the antenna 36 degrees, put a hanger on top of it, a put a ball of aluminum foil on the end, you could get WHBI and Mr. Magic! That was hip hop...listen in the middle of the night to the classics and recording to cassette to play it fresh on the boardwalk the next day!
Mr. Magic ;-) ...respected
PhoenicianJazz 1 month ago
Just like MAGIC
PhoenicianJazz 3 months ago
@PhoenicianJazz Mr. Magic That Is!
VBaskin2010 2 months ago
Hey s'up party people ?!...this is just BIG UP to the comment up here ! ....to MsTempest22...I'd like to thank that person and give much respect because I'm 36 years old and that the first time of my life that hear the precise word that express what I feel about the transformation of HIP-HOP !!!...sometimes feel alone to think like that !!....thanks again...as far as I'm concerned, OLD SCHOOL will never die out !...no matter what's comming next ! Peace from Europe...
Paolo6397 3 months ago
You Guys fucking rock man. They never had a clue of you guys ability .ItS MaJiC.
roblunt126 4 months ago
i got this on lp!!!!
rafyraf100 5 months ago
@KiddJetix "Somebody get a doctor quick she's having an attack!"
TRKizm 5 months ago 4
yo im from the days of am radio uknow pasterson nj in the house yall know
headspryor 6 months ago 2
@KiddJetix Damn! Now THAT'S what I'm talkin about!!! Stayin up till 2am and recording Mr. Magic on my box and taking it to the streets the next day!! Mr. Magic took it to a whole new level! R.I.P. Mr, Magic!!
dirtyankee 9 months ago 2
This is hip hop like I remember ...
jranderson65 10 months ago 2
This is when Hip Hop was real. we should have an old school block party in NYC to bring this shit back to life and get rid of this new shit that is derogatory and racist.
Rap back in the day was universal among all races and was about FUN! There were no race barriers and you never heard the N word!!
prop09 10 months ago 4
This is when Hip Hop was real
prop09 10 months ago 2
HIPHOP in it's purest form.
teeosupreme 1 year ago 2
this instrumental is a live performance of a breakbeat,
pre sampling era, it is taken from cat stevens..."was dog a donut"
MrNytn2001 1 year ago
@MrNytn2001 Wow. My sister used to play that song.
bugstrut 10 months ago 2
@MrNytn2001 gotta check that out...the bassline sounds like a Phyllis Hyman joint called Don't Tell Me Tell Her...check it out and let me know..
taylor4660 2 weeks ago
hip-hop
nptrock 1 year ago
Yea!! I agree.There's nothing like hearing these ol' joints.The new music out these days is nothing in comparison to what paived the way for the new skool music.Much respect to all the pioneers
angelito8092 1 year ago
o barato e louco
renato16858 1 year ago
Sorry just saw this late but I think Tuff Crew had the greatest song ever that didnt go national.. with My Part of Town... and Jewel T with kick the ball
basilmalik 1 year ago
Man, Bobby Robinson started some stuff back in the day. I played this so much, my mom worked her magic on it and it ended up in pieces... LOL
AmayaCrazy 1 year ago
this jam beats any new rap..
the positive energy in hiphop is gone..too many copycat rappers killed the culture and clueless kids think they hiphop..hiphop is all 4 elements,not some greedy rapper talking that juvenile garbage.
defcreator 1 year ago
The inspiration for the backing track for this jam was Cat Stevens' 'Was Dog A Doughnut' from 1977.
phillydisco 1 year ago 2
Ahhh, The F4 I remember seeing them perform back on Thanksgiving night "1982" at the Hotel Philadelpha in Downtown Philly.
It was The Treachorous 3, Fearless 4, Disco 4, Kool Kyle Starchild, & Phillys own Grand Master Nell & MC Ceasar along with their crew "Punk Funk Nation" Cowgirl, Robbie B & Jazz,
Grand Masters Of Funk was there & DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Network Crew featuring Rolly Rabb the faster rapper in Philly! Ahhh Yeeah..
billyjacc 2 years ago
@billyjacc
Damn, you went back! Was this a Force Five Production? I'm surprised Tuff Crew wasn't on that bill, ha!
Pirate7X 1 year ago
@Pirate7X Tuff Crew?? (LOL) Naaw bro, they weren't even on the map at that time TC didn't have any fame until '86 they may have been apart of little neighborhood crews cause when they first came on Lady B's Street Beat Show we were like "Who R these M-F'ers? (LOL)
Back then only a few people had records in Philly at that time.
billyjacc 1 year ago
@Pirate: In '82 it was all about your neighborhood crews & having lots & lots of speakers, lights, 4-8 turntables, lots of rapping & scratching, breaking, graffiti, etc.
I just turned 15 @ the time so most of TC were probaly 15 & under they wasn't making no records (LOL) probably rappin & scratching like I was but no record deal yet.
billyjacc 1 year ago
@billyjacc Man, I attended 9th grade with JOEY Hicks (DJ Too Tuff) of Tuff Crew. Not sure when he made the transition from red haired nerd who bullied the nerds to DJ. Does his attending St. Joseph's Preparatory High School for boys kill his tuff image street credibility? LOL
AmayaCrazy 1 year ago
@AmayaCrazy LOL not really cuzz a lot of em that recorded were just about image besides Schooly D (5-2PSK 4 Real) just like NWA & many others coast to coast who just were around those elements but weren't G's 4Real.
billyjacc 1 year ago
Besides, with HM Flash, GM Nell, DJ Cash Money, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Lightning Rich, Baby DST, & DJ Miz, this kids name never even came up in a convo of Philly Hot DJ's.
I've NEVER Heard about him battleing anybody at a Spinathon, DMC, Nu Music Seminar, etc; He was just the TC white boy DJ (LOL)
billyjacc 1 year ago
@billyjacc LOL Man, you mentioned a name that should have nationally shined FAR brighter than what he did; Cash Money. Words could not begin to encompass his skill and technique. To be banned from the World DJ Championship??? LOL
AmayaCrazy 1 year ago
@AmayaCrazy Yeah Cash is Hottt.., I have some footage of him a few years back at the Philly Urban Ledgend Awards and he was in our movie with John Canada Terrell called "The Story Of Breakout & Chill"..
billyjacc 1 year ago
These were the days of hip hop and New York culture. I'm 37 and saddened by the state of "hip hop" because most ot what I see and hear has nothing to do with what I was raised on. Its such a slap in the face to the "pioneers" who paved the way and now the torch is being passed around by a bunch of wannabes who don't have a clue to how hard all the fly girls and fly guys worked. No one knew this street culture would turn the world on its ear. Peace to all who came before. Thank you so much!!
MsTempest22 2 years ago 48
Agree with you 100% MsTempest22! I say this every day! I truly get MAD when I hear the crap that's on the radio now!!
crystalglobe1 2 years ago 2
@crystalglobe1 I'm so glad someone understands what I'm tallking about. It seems like these "youngins" don't want to listen to reason when us older heads try to explain how it "used to be" and how nothing came easy but all the hard work paid off. If it weren't for the "oldschool/trueschool" classics, I don't know what I would listen to "Today". What's "available" today really doesn't interest me. I can buy "1" credible hip hop artists' work but there are 10 other fools handling the mike!!
MsTempest22 2 years ago
I agree with you. I think the industry/record executives ruined hip hop (and even soul music for that matter). Nowadays, the industry is driven by IMAGE; SKILL has taken a back seat. In fact, skill is not needed anymore: only a gimmick and the support of a major record label.
I feel bad for the true hip hop artists who are "carrying the torch" of hip hop's forefathers because they are the ones the general public will likely never discover.
We are witnessing the "reign of retarded rap."
suaved 1 year ago
I'm so happy you undestand what I've been trying to say. It's like you cannot have a decent conversation these days in regards to Hip Hop because of all the garbage that's passed around as "Hip Hop" music. No one thinks an intelligent conversation can take place because of the condition the industry is in. To all of us in a certain age group, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!! It wasn't always like this and we can't live in the past forever but what else is there to listen to today?!
MsTempest22 1 year ago
@MsTempest22
There is not much to listen to today. My standards are too high, and today's brand of hip hop does not satisfy me, to say the least.
Many young people see nothing wrong with today's hip hop. You and I have a reference point because we witnessed the "Golden Age" when hip hop had substance and originality. We witnessed the era in which biting another artist's style was an unforgiveable sin. Nowadays, nearly every rapper sounds alike and follows a formula........
suaved 1 year ago
....that their slavemasters (I meant record labels) created for them.
I honestly believe the WORST rappers of yesteryear were probably more skilled than some of the so-called BEST rappers of today.
I am just thankful I was alive to experience the quality years of hip hop. I could not imagine growing up as a teen today when the likes of Lil Wayne and Souljah Boy are the most popular hip hop artists of the day.
suaved 1 year ago
True!!!!!!!! True!!!!!!!!!!! True!!!!!!!!! Sad!!!!!!! Sad!!!!!!!!!!! Sad!!!!!!!!!!! The saddest part is that the "talent" is so limited and below par!!! I'll just have to invest in a cassette player to listen to all of my old tapes!!! People can laugh at that comment if they want to, but I'd rather listen to material from back in the day before I ever "download" or purchase out of the store the GARBAGE that's being passed for music today!!!!!!!
MsTempest22 1 year ago 2
@MsTempest22 - there is always stuff out there, just gotta look a bit harder when there's so much trash shoved in our faces these days!
savethecolumbians 1 year ago
@MsTempest22 Could not say it any better... Amen!!!!
port2344chester 1 year ago
@MsTempest22 you can't honestly think its the artists fault. i mean, im 19 and theres some mainstream music i like, but im alot more into old school stuff but wouldnt you put some consideration into the fact that people realized that hip-hop music could be industrialized? thats why its so bad nowadays, i dont thinkk its entirely the artist fault.
MoolahDough 1 year ago
@MsTempest22 You're paraphrasing what I've been saying a lot over the last 20 odd years!
SKOTP69 9 months ago 2
Rip mr. Magic. I was there he was great
zimgold 2 years ago 2
Back in the day when you didn't need to swear, to dis'
TOP SKILLS!
hobodivine 2 years ago 2
RIP Mr. Magic................... :o(
akura2 2 years ago
Sampled from Was Dog a Doughnut?
alekcy 2 years ago
Yup... by Cat Stevens
akura2 2 years ago 2
And later covered by jellybean benitez
alekcy 2 years ago
Good Ole' Enjoy Records hmmm, they were the days.
mookeychase0907 2 years ago
fearless four, always in my top favs.
CanarsieBrooklyn 2 years ago
Good evening all you super listeners fly guys and fly girls welcome once again to the worlds famous Mr.Magic rap attack and I am your host for this evening super rockin Mr.Magic!!! better known as Sir Juice.. Classic WHBI with the Awsome 2, The Supreme Team...D N A & Hank Love,Jerry Bloodrock and so many more NY /Nj/CT/ stand up.. Im still rocking those tapes.. Now back to those Worlds famous Supreme Team Breaks... TNL what up...
Imakebeats65 2 years ago 2
Damn, that's still fresh. Thank for sharing!
XooxerX 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this classic, playa. I remember when Mr. Magic would play this on wbls back in the days.
drok1000 3 years ago
mr mr majic majic super super blast blast .. BOOM!
NEBTV 3 years ago
lol....yes SIRRRRR!!!!!!!
24Adrian24 2 years ago
Word.....
akura2 2 years ago
DJ Jellybean had a joint called was dog a doghnut as well. THESE GUYS ARE LEGENDS. I USED TO RHYME THIS SONG IN SCHOOL OUT IN WHITE PLAINS!!
teeosupreme 3 years ago
That jam was on Jellybean's album called "Wotupski"
intromix 3 years ago
I still have the wax to that... the original was from Cat Stevens... but I bought Wotupski because of that remix
akura2 2 years ago
it's also been used on D.I.T.C.'s album on a track call "Internationally Known"<--- hot track
akura2 2 years ago
Oh yes, WHBI! I used to stay up so late in my basement with my record player, all my rap records, I had everything! The stereo system was on WHBI when it got late! Ahhh, those were the days!
CandiTee 3 years ago
How did this one gewt pass me? i would love to see more from them.
matthew37levi 3 years ago
It's on the one for 1981-1982!!!!
rockjohnson80 3 years ago
Holy hell yes! this cant be topped
blam1982 3 years ago
the sure shot!!!!!
jdeezel 3 years ago
whats the original record?
ZanzibarJose 3 years ago
original records is "Was Dog A Doughnut" - Cat Stevens. It is not an exact sample, but a cover.
misterfantastick 3 years ago 2
great tip, i can see how they didn't sample it, the bassline is higher in the mix and sounds like they did the keyboard melody of the orig. with the bass... was just comparing their followup "Rocking It" with the Man Machine KRFTWRK loop and I reckon they flipped it in their own way... PUMPKIN & FRIENDS !!!
teoruz 3 years ago
hell yeah! pumpkin & friends...you know you hip hop. rip pumpkin...
misterfantastick 3 years ago
ya man, tryna catch up on diggin the roots of all great music .. peace, m
teoruz 3 years ago
@teoruz Yep,Yep, I played that bass line. Pumpkin gave it to me but I didn't know where it came from..but now I know. I also played the bass line to Foxy Brown's, "Big Bad Mama", which ended up as the opening song for the movie, "How to be a player",...Those two tracks made me 100$, total.....you live and learn...It's not too bad not being rich...I'm still alive and that's more precious than gold....R.I.P. Pumpkin, you Funked hard!!!
MrMARVIN1952 8 months ago 5
@MrMARVIN1952 Is this the baseline to Stylistics Hurry Up This Way Again?
taylor4660 2 weeks ago
@MrMARVIN1952 it sounds like Phyllis Hyman's...Don't Tell Me. Tell Her.....
taylor4660 2 weeks ago
@MrMARVIN1952 Thanx for the info, I know what you mean, life being broke is not all that bad if you still breathing, agreed !!!
PS sorry just saw the comment , big ups :)
teoruz 1 day ago
whbi lives on forever !!!!
djmagiz 3 years ago
I used to live in Atlantic City, NY in the early 80's, and where I lived, if you put the radio just right, moved the antenna 36 degrees, put a hanger on top of it, a put a ball of aluminum foil on the end, you could get WHBI and Mr. Magic! That was hip hop...listen in the middle of the night to the classics and recording to cassette to play it fresh on the boardwalk the next day!
misterfantastick 3 years ago 2
I like this jam...back in da days just str8 chilling.
GiselaNYC1 3 years ago
Yeah thats the shit rite there!!!
gizcool 3 years ago
My favorite true school crew.
thirdshift47 3 years ago
bumpin'
-cherriesandicecream
cherriesandicecream2 3 years ago
hip hop legends.
mfuji0001 3 years ago 14