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  • can you send me a shematic of this please?

  • Watch your fingers, man.

  • You still alive matey.?? Lol. Hope ya well friend and being safe :)

  • @high1voltage1rules Yep, I am just fine. Thanks, you too.

  • Hahaha ("hot glued the .frikkin crap out of it") that comment crack me up mate!! Ya have to glue them up don't ya mate. I once didn't and ow my god it went mad with arcing over to all the pins lol. Well I was giving it 36 volts!! I always try not to destroy my flybacks as I love-em!!Ya videos are awsome. Keep up the good work and be safe! ;)

    Hey what's ya name by the way?? It's not junior lol Id kill my parents if thay did that to me lol

    Thumbs up*

  • @high1voltage1rules All of my decent flybacks are dead, I am left with crap now. I wound my own, now, with way thick wire, but with an excessive amount of power to my new ZVS, it pulls a good 5 inch arc about 2/5" to 1/2" thick. I need to get some thinner magnet wire, and wind one for higher voltage, so the arcs can stretch farther. My real name is Salvatore. And whats your name again? I know you mentioned it before. Thanks

  • dude, is it safe to just hold the wire with your bare hand while arcing? it looks like there are some sparks around your fingertips...

  • @ivankoran In this specific video, the output is not deadly, but would certainly hurt. I used a chicken stick after this video.

  • the mosfet heats up when you are not arching because the power is building up and not discharging in another form of energy. so the excess energy is in the form of mosfet heat. GOOD JOB though you should probably hold the black wire with a long piece of wood because even though the wire is insulated, at that high of a voltage the wire cover is not even an insulator anymore

  • @AddColorsToYourLife That makes a lot of sense! Thanks for pointing it out why the mosfet heats. Holding the wire is not really, but would certainly hurt if it burnt through the insulation. I only did that in this video, I used a chicken stick after.

  • NE 555 can handle a maximum of 16V, you are then merged to 24V NE555 and that it not destroyed?

  • @iwex7331 I had the 555 powered only through only one transformer, therefor it was only getting 12v. The mosfet however went through both PSUs

  • anyone else notice it arcs to his hand when there is no load?

  • Hey mate thats the best 555 driver iv seen i fink lol your camera seems to make the arcs look fake lol obviously they are not fake but its funny how the cam makes it look that way and it looks cool how theres corona on the lead your holding btw ive made a 2n3055 feedback flyback driver but im just looking for the flyback could you give me some tips on how to get the longest life out of it possible

  • @jake3085 Thanks, well, there was a lot of corona in real life, but the camera sure did enhance that pretty well. And that is with a UV filter. Maybe a polarizer filter would stop that instead. Not that it bothers me though. To be honest, I have never made a 2n3055 feedback driver. The closest I ever made was by using a TIP120, which worked well up to 24V at a low current. There is no real methods of making it last longer that I know of, besides using superior cooling.

  • imagine this guy on minecraft with redstone!!! he would be the master

  • 1/1k + 1/2.2k = 1/R or 685 ohms When adding resistors in parallel you add them as inverse. When you add them in series you just add their values together.

  • @blackmesa25 I have not collected any in a long time. I have not been able to go garbage picking lately. Every flyback is different, they like different frequencies, have different current and voltage outputs, some have capacitors, ect. When I ever see one in the trash, I am sure I will rip it apart and leave a little surprise on the victims curb lol

    I should make a video of my collection. What I should do, is wind my own someday since I keep killing them.

  • Adding a capacitor helps with self-oscillant driver too , but the issue is that you use max power even when not drawing arcs , do you have same issue with 555 driver?

  • @lo9765 Yes, the capacitors are needed in the self-oscillant driver (ZVS) for it to work correctly otherwise there will be pretty much no output. On the ZVS, the driver uses very little power when there is no load, but when you draw an arc, that is when it sucks up power. With my 555 driver it seems to draw the same power when or when not arcing, which may be why the mosfets heat so badly in most cases.

  • @juniortore1 no , i'm not using zvs , i'm using simple transistor oscillator with feedback , using 2x 13007 high voltage npn power transistors wired in parallel , a capacitor in parallel with primary winding and one in parallel with feedback resistor , using 35 volts power supply , which under it drops to a lot lower voltage , i get about 60-70 watt output , with almost white arcs

  • @juniortore1 i think i've got the best result using transistors, other vids i have seen with similiar configuration , only achieved cold blue sparks

  • @juniortore1 the only problem i have is that it draws max current even without load with the risk of overheating rectifier of the power supply, and i get ton of heat on transistors too , but that is normal , i have to use a fan to keep them cool , or current will drop very fast , capacitors tends to heat up too

  • Haha, finger zapped at 5:40 !

  • Hey there, I must say that it's really interesting to listen to what you have to say haha

    You explain everything nicely.

    I can also see that the arcs must be really hot because they are thick in diameter!

    Really cool stuff you have there :) You just got another subscriber ^^

    Greetings,

    Electorials

  • Hey man, how much current are you pulling from there? I've already connected it without a res cap and an inductor directly to the supply (with a12v reg. for the 555)

    Do you think it is possible to provide about 500w with that driver?

  • @dzdice At 36 volts I was drawing about 2-8 amps. In my opinion, even if resonant do not input over 24 volts, because if anything fails your driver is trash, and possibly your power supply. It is possible to do 500W but the arcs will probably be very crappy if your mosfet does not immediately explode. In my opinion, make a half bridge or ZVS driver and you can draw much bigger arcs with much less input and driver heat and driver stability. (see later zvs videos I made)

  • Dude I just made a new 555 flyback driver and I can get just over 3 inch arcs on just 12v input! I will upload a video soon.

  • pay attention, look at ur hand @ 05:20

  • @elettrogaso I know, I made a chicken stick later on.

  • Those are huge arcs

  • @gdorwin26 See my new ZVS videos... more parallel flybacks to soon come.

  • well. very good results comparing to my zvs (go whatch it ; D) cuz i fire a lot more power in........

  • Your capacitor is blowing up because these capacitor are designed for 50Hz and you run it with 20-25KHz...

  • Very cool. Am i right in thinking each centimetre of spark equals about 10 KV ?

  • @iracerguy yes, about that. But it may tremendously vary due to air pressure, temperature, and humidity.

  • thanks for the idea with the capacitor in parallel with the coil :D

  • @ciprianwiner no problem, hopefully it helps, also, that little inductor transformer on the in series with the input certainly helped a bit, so try some work with the inductors in series with the mosfet-flyback-positive voltage

  • @juniortore1 ok i will try to put an inductor choke in series with the mosfet-flyback-positive voltage(i got a pretty good one from my old monitor) :D

  • put a few 2n3055 power transistors in parallel (heatsunk of coarse) and it will probably eliminate all warming whatsoever.

  • @123324ben In other words, use those to drive the gate on my mosfet?

  • @juniortore1 no, take a small transistor to drive a couple 2n3055s. 2n3055 has 15A and 60v (i think) so the only thing you will have to wory about i inductive kickback frying your npn's. i just ordered a couple high power "IR" npn's that can take 30A and 200v. this should take care of any inductive kickback and drive a flyback without warming

  • @123324ben Ill have to try that at some point

  • The mosfet runs cooler while arcing because when you have no arc, nothing is dissipating the energy and it ends up reflecting back to the mosfet. If you scope the drain pin you will see the spikes get much higher with no arc. If not for the avalanche ability of the mosfet, it would just blow whenever that happened.

  • @juniortore

    well if the tv your working with has the flyback on a seperate cicuit board and not on the main board then you might be able to but otherwise my idk.  the only reason i would use it streaght from the tv is because 98% of my projects involve building stuff without buying stuff because only cvs is within biking distance and theirs no way my mom would drive me for something like this. but ill find a way. also i do have a flyback seperate from a tv along with 2x 12 V batterys .

  • the mosfat heats up when not arcing because their is no dicharge which is like charging a battery without a smart charger and letting it run for longer than its safe charge zone and another is i would make my own capsitor with a glass jar because it will not heat up as much because its just salt water in a jar. and 1 more thing

    i know making a 555 driver for it makes big arcs but i thing u can use it straite off the tv. all youn have to do is ground 1 wire to the metal frame and then 2 the FBT

  • @JD8853 Hmm, I never thought of that. As for the capacitor, that wont work, its too low of a capacitance. Saltwater caps are normally .00XuF

    I sometimes do that with the TV, but often it dies from RF, and many of the flybacks are from dead TVs I pick from the garbage.

    Thanks, good comment about the mosfet!

  • @juniortore1

    i know you can run a fly-back with a cfl ballast if you wire it correctly but mine fryed when i tried it. so i would try it!

  • @juniortore1 also when i said you can run it directly off the tv... well you can but not for long amounts of time and the reason they would fry is because insted of creating the arcs aetween the glass part of the tv (i forgot what that is called) but you have to ground it and the flyback cant be connected on the main circuit board along with the other components. it has to be a tv where the flyback is seperate from the main board which then the flyback would likly be sitting behind the--

  • @juniortore1 -- electric gun

  • dam bro i can c the sparks on ur fingers man.. kool work there

  • @krishwarsha ya, thats not normal for a 555 flyback driver. Normally that is associated with ZVS. Thanks

  • start at 5:22 and look at his fingers folding the wire

  • the mosfet will be a IRFP250N (214W)

  • @08Kutt Just to let you know, I hate the IRFP250. Only reason I re4ally used it is because it is cheap and can do 30 amps. From now on, I will use different, newer, better designed mosfets or IGBTs

  • hey, my transformer is 11,5V, but when i put the diodes and the capacitor to be DC, is change to 16V :(

    can i use it?

  • iv already said it XDDD

  • ok, now the transformer is 11,8V around 6A, with a capacitor of 16V@22'000uF, the output is 16V, the maximum of the 555 timer capacity

  • @08Kutt dont do 16 volts man! Most 555 timers have 15 as a max, some die at 14 volts. So, stick with 12-13.

    Do a minimum of 12, otherwise mosfets gate may not switch correctly.

  • can i use 16,3Volts?? or it will burnn the 555 timer?

  • @08Kutt Dude, use a voltage regulator! or power the 555 timer with a different 12 volt transformer, combine the negative wire of the 12 volt to the higher voltage negative. In simple terms, go with the 12 volt regulator since its hard to explain the other method

  • hey, the current is pretty high, a lot of mA!

    schematics please!!! pretty awesome!

  • @08Kutt Why schematics? I explained it good enough didnt I? Just average 555 flyabck driver, with a .22uF capacitor across the flybacks primary. And for the inductor, its not needed, but I found it to help keep the mosfet even cooler than it was. That just went in series with the + and the flybacks primary to mosfet drain

  • @juniortore1 thak it easy XD i asked these questions almost in the same time...

  • Woah! Great results! Playing with flyback transformers is fun.

    Do you have links to the boarded up version?

    BTW, I like that you explained what as going on the whole time. And the observations about the mosfet were very interesting.

  • @mgregggphone I am working on a good 555 board. I will make a video of it shortly. It is on a solder type breadboard, has a 10k 25 turn trimmer pot for duty cycle, and a 50k 25 turn pot for frequency. The frequency is set by a .01uF capacitor. This board has the npn/pnp pair for more power. I have not finished the connections on it, and want to get screw terminal sockets for the input. I plan to test it this weekend

  • i tried using a 0.22uF 400v capacitor and some random inductor but i ended up stuffing everything up so it doesn't work so i will remake it without resonance stuff. instead, i will use something 3 12v SLA batteries (with the 555 regulated) to get a massive output.

  • @a380rockerfan yep, the resonant capacitor needed varies by the flyback.

    Umm, there's an issue. 12 volt regulators only handle 35 volts MAX, 30 recommended max. So, 3x12 = 36 which = FAIL

    Just wanted to point that out before you fry the regulator, 555, and maybe mosfet

  • Hey, those are some hot arcs your getting. Nice vid.

  • @CrashByron Thanks, I cant wait until I make a half bridge!

  • HOLY SHIT BRO! I can a crap load of corona hissing around your fingers when you hold the black wire. This kinda could be a sign hat the insulation may fail sooner or later and you may get hit with nasty HF burns! Ouchies! Maybe you should probably use a bit of HV cable cut off the flyback power out and you should solder that onto the existing black wire. Still, awesome video! I love that! I have so go to do that when I get my IRFP250 MOSFET's in a weeks time

  • Oh shit.. that are PRETTY nice results for a circuit with the fuckin' 555!

    AND you DIDN'T use a bridge.. awesome, juniortore1!!

  • @Microwave89 Ya, thats what I thought! Single mosfet / 555 flyback driver and this big of arcs with no mosfet heating.

    Ill be making a half bridge fairly soon. Now, lets see that in resonance :D

  • I love that "How do I do that? Well, I don't know how I do it. It just works that way." bit. :p :) ~ I've got *so* many questions about this vid. I'll have to PM you, even if you don't (or can't) answer the questions.

  • @HazzWold1993 lol, I know. I need to make a mini PVC chicken stick specifically for applications like this.

  • Very FAKE & GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @TheTacoActOf1763 Dude, GET OFF MY FUCKING VIDEOS!!!

  • @TheTacoActOf1763 Bro, you honestly have NO idea what high voltage electronics is like! Please keep your nasty insults to yourself and don't let them out. juniortore1 does not deserve all of that crap you are giving him. Go away. Now. Please

  • @HazzWold1993 Well, I think the inductor plays a role here, I will make a schematic of it in another video when I buy or find the proper capacitors.

  • If you saw my latest flyback video, my arcs shot off about as far as yours, but for some reason mine drew a shit ton! But awesome arcs never the less!

  • @zker666 Ya, I saw it. Well, now to try to mess with capacitors :D

    Here, it draws 8 amps or so, but the mosfet doesn't heat. As to without the capacitors, it uses the same amps, but it heats BAD

  • Now see, if you had some Pots instead of resistors, there's a good chance you could get better yet arcs =) Also, that ferrite transformer you used as a ...Ballast? It's a SMPS transformer that powers the whole board. Usually 300W or so, and ranges from id guess 5V to 24+

  • @PhxSt0rmz Go Resonance!

  • @PhxSt0rmz Well, I am not ripping this mess apart. Ill try that when my breadboards arrive.

    And its not only acing as a ballast, something with inductance is going on. Without it, my mosfet heats badly (still not like before butttt...) And when I wire it up, the arcs are noticeably bigger on 12 volts.

  • @11:02 it looks like its dancing or something lol

  • @SciFacts4YOU lol

  • That is one nice driver!

    But dude, use a chicken stick, there was visible corona to your hand!

  • @holycrapapie Thanks. Ill build a mini PVC one sometime. 

  • The MOSFET stays cool because the impulse that normally feeds the arc is being wasted in the MOSFET's diode that protects it from over voltage and damage ... some parallel diodes could help it , idk for sure so maybe someone will explain it better but i know MOSFETs don't like spikes from transformers. But wow! those look great for 555, i've actually never made anything with 555 that wasn't just making heat xD or horrible noise as it was messed from some interference ...

  • @filipkof Ya, the 555 flyback driver normally makes a LOT of mosfet heating. I have had 2x IRFP250 mosfets die at 12 volts from overheating. And yep, thats what I thought. Also, this goes with the concept of getting rid of kickback, but the capacitors may help smooth that.

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