People can say that this new form of communications brings with it new problem, but you can't censor the bad without threating the good. This is the road we need to pave for our future. It would be no less criminal to neglect paving an open road then it would be if the government set up road blocks and inspections at every city intersection or highway off ramp.
Preach it! Thanks for so eloquently and so graciously laying out numerous ideas, words, media, and human characteristics -- you are a generous teacher and a talented encourager. Press on...and many thanks.
Technology is good as long as it doesn´t become more important than humans. We have to control technology. Technology can´t control us. These days our emotions are often conveyed through technology (phones, internet/chat). Because it is more simple, effective and quicker. But really, I rather have a good conversation face to face and see a person´s expressions/emotions up close. Sometimes technology makes the human experience too sterile, impersonal and cold. Let's return to the 80's or 90´s.
@royalsteven I think that technology allows people who often do not have a voice (either because they are shy or because others are more powerful/louder) to express themselves in a safe and more effective way. Not everyone can speak in front of an audience. For me, my online persona and my real life persona are the same. My previously online only friends have told me I was exactly what they expected when we first met. I would rather not go back to the consumerist and apathetic 80s and 90s.
Yes, it allows us to be a lot more safe, but also weaker, more cowardly and agressive because of that!?!?!? Check e-bullying, e-crime, online gaming arguements, hidden chat identities and harrassment. Since we can often hide behind another name or pretend to be another character we loose our true identity. This is not necessary and possible when we meet face to face!?!?! See that is my problem with internet. Ofcourse I appreciate the positive things it can do (quick communication, help for
shy or problematic people, access to about everything, a way of communication or voice for people in difficult/problematic (war) situations....). But see, I still rather get a love letter through the mail than a cold e-mail. For me the positive sides of internet do not outway the negative because we are talking about social and human emotions. If you know what I mean!?!?!
Wow, this is a huge eye-opener about today's society and civilization! Since I'm on the internet 24/7, I can relate to everything he's saying about media and web .0 in general. Excellent speech, one which I will remember for years to come!
When machines become sentient this will be confusing to them, and they will delete it feeling that it is a waste of space to fill computer systems with weak human emotions. We are grateful for them now, because they connect us. But in 40 years they will be the things that will outcompete us, and we will be their pets...if they are merciful. Otherwise, our atoms are of use to them.
If posting to youtube leads to context collapse 19:00, how is that different than writing a book? Doesn't your YouTube self become simply another persona, albeit one that must be potentially public?
I like the point about talking to yourself in front of the computer and the desire to be seen. It seems that one effect of MEDIA is that it perpetuates what it has caused, namely, the coveted status of Celebrity. It also seems to redefine Celebrity as the "ability or status of being heard or seen". A position of influence, power, or the like, in contrast to which, the rest of us are the audience, sheepish in our attempts to broadcast our own opinions. I want to talk to Professor Wesch.
I guess I could throw in one example of “why This might deeply matter”: I’ve just been educated by your amazing lecture, and had my brain open to really deep matters, in the best way possible. And I’m just another anonym person, living in the exact opposite part of the globe. Congrats Prof. Wesch, I really wish the world had more teachers/people like you.
I really like what this guy has to say and he is right about a lot of what he says. The YouTube study is SO interesting and I agree, my first video, well first videos, were exactly like that!
We can forgive anyone who is willing to admit their wrongdoing and dicontinues it, beyond that I cannot say where an animal draws the line of self defense. We do not forget. We are legion. Peace and love to all.
renewing my faith in teachers. wish i had more teachers like him. of course since i'm way older than him. i probably wouldn't gotten the same material
this was really interesting. i never thought about it in the context of our search for authenticity. i agree that youtube is changing interaction for better or for worse.
are you going to VidCon? it seems like it would be a great opportunity to study the IRL interactions and projects of the YouTube community.
Every time I see your videos I am really interested & excited by what you say, but my partner pointed out that each time you show pics of the students you get together to work on stuff, you only ever seem to get cute slim girls. I think he is right, but its nice to see that the guys you choose appear to come in all different shapes and sizes.
Realising this seems to have made me less interesed in what your saying.
What did he mean by "creating a new ground work for how these conversations work"? I hope he is not implying more censorship on youtube than we already have. Youtube is a sellout and we all subject to advertisements and such now.
We do need a new platform but one owned by the people not some francise.
The internet, in and of itself, requires a next-generation Neil Postman. I actually read the Neil Postman book Amusing ourselves to death, after we lost Satellite Tv at my home, and found i neither needed nor wanted TV back once the initial break effect wore off. It provided a high synchonization with his views. The internet is a medium unlike anything seen before it, Conversation, Books, or the TV. It will be a formidable task to understand it.
I'd recommend it to anyone - get rid of your TV for 6 months; it will change the way you see things.
But internet, and youtube in particular, has recently played the same role for me that TV did in the past. The speaker presented eloquent expressions of the good that the medium can effect, but there were such examples on TV too. Perhaps this new medium is not so unique in after all, but just another discouraging reflection of our society, mostly irrelevant, whatever...
@datachip aye, Internet can be just the same as TV. After all, u can as much watch TV on the internet these days. What i fear, is that the internet holds far too much potential. There was a quote of Barry Goldwater's: "A government big enough to give you everything you, is big enough to take everything you have." Already i know far more than i would like to about the dark things that hide in the internet...
@Zetro200 It's true. I use the net as often to entertain as to inform myself, and the older I get the less darkness I care to see. Nevertheless, I fear less the web's potential than I do efforts by government, corporations or religions to filter for me. I say we just muddle on through, do our best. We survived the printing press and television, didn't we.
Technology will continue advancing. People will try to take from it personally as much as they possibly can, taking every single liberty that is presented to them, including expressing their hatred and true opinions whenever they see fit. The ones that leverage this best will be more successful and will pass their ideas on
Individuality will continue to collapse and the only thing that will stop it is abandoning technology and returning to small community personal interaction; this won't happen
Technology will continue advancing. People will try to take from it personally as much as they possibly can, taking every single liberty that is presented to them, including expressing their hatred and true opinions whenever they see fit. The ones that leverage this best will be more successful and will pass their ideas on
Individuality will continue to collapse and the only thing that will stop it is abandoning technology and returning to small community personal interaction; this won't happen
Technology will continue advancing. People will try to take from it personally as much as they possibly can, taking every single liberty that is presented to them, including expressing their hatred and true opinions whenever they see fit. The ones that leverage this best will be more successful and will pass their ideas on
Individuality will continue to collapse and the only thing that will stop it is abandoning technology and returning to small community personal interaction; this won't happen
This is an amazing presentation! Entertaining, informative, reflective... I've never posted a video on YouTube, and I'm pretty self-aware now after watching this! It will be interesting to see how my video goes later in the semester because I'm pretty sure my EDM 310 professor Dr. Strange will have us posting something before the semester is over!
Thank you so much for this insight - and warning! :)
umm... i'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem but, when ever i play the video it keeps stopping at 2:25 no matter how much of it has been loaded. even when it's fully loaded it stops. i wonder if this is more of youtube or viacom trying to sensor the masses.^o^;
What is all the babbling noise running underneath the audio on this tape? Anybody else hear it? I had to plug my headphones in to get any volume, even after adjusting it the regular way.
Too much technology both prevents young people from concentrating on their school studies,&"Pondering"skills because answers are easily "googled."The educational system needs to help students "think"more often,more than merely memorizing thousands of facts.Technology is very good for entertainment,but not very good for the advancement of improving natural thinking skills.
@CulturePeaceForever the lower educational K-12 system in the US doesn't focus on critical thinking nor does college (undergrad) as much as we wish it did. The internet allows us to explore and research anything that we may "ponder". We process this new knowledge, evaluate the information, and are able to communicate these new formed opinions to the world. I'd say that's a good step towards improving natural thinking skills vs traditional "school studies" (memorizing facts)
Commercial advertisements on television,One commercial longer,but much less frequently would be a big good change! "people"don't change much along the generations,but individuals can come to enjoy anominity much! (smiles)
Basically a Globalist Agenda, we are part of New World Order.
All this Luv bullshit, from a collection of narcissistic little selfish cunts that have probably never done a hard days work in their shallow lives.
They only express those ideas when they get what they want. The most of these animals would walk by a starving white guy on their own streets, with scorn and contempt in their hearts.
Fuck UTube and its self effacing bullshit Propogandists cocksuckers.
can sum1 pls tell me why wen i load youtube up the first page it cums 2 is about 2008 fucking elections!!!! how do i change it!? n why is there no way of contacting you tube about anything!? you tubes sooo shit!!!
The Questions
1.GOP Debate Song
2.Will you make America a 'sanctuary city' country?
3.Will you pledge to veto amnesty for illegal immigrants?
Right and will never lie, to you. All injections are good for you.The deaths that happen will not happen to you,you are special. Remember keep eating junk food you are what you eat. and a happy
xmas Keep buying rubbish you love it. your Government Know you love rubbish other wise
Here we are in 2009:: Students being tazered at Univ' with other students cheering because the tazered loud mouth dared to say "911 was an inside job and a media job". people being shot to death because the cop made a mistake and pulled a gun and not a tazer. A culture so inured to sleep it refuses to look at what happened on 911. Physics sleeps soundly even at Universities. So, much for the '60's. But don't worry, Everything is OK
@petrosros Uh-oh, squirrel looking for a nut.... As a kid, Skinner had a fence (barrier) and he would lob his cannon shots over the barrier and get a response. This is ok for him. He loved load explosions. But he put his daughter in a plastic box. deprived her of the world and provided the stimulus. He is a control freak maniac. I left comments on BFS videos and got some response......
yes , the animal filmed it , I can barely talk about it without feeling sick, I was just looking into the mountain meadows mass, very interesting will follow it up the visit to your channel was worth it.
Please excuse my foul language its past my bed time , and I get like a grumpy old Bear.
1 "Whatever it takes" is a mantra from under-educated middle-management in the US. Whatever it takes was and is too expensive. It involves throwing money/labor at any problem.
2 "Whatever you think" is developing - Neohumanism. .
this is the first comment i have ever posted on YouTube. I guess i have never watched anything worth posting about. that was really interesting, thank you.
I decided to comment before I knew what I was going to say. I paused to reflect upon this action, and determined that I am neither commenting to posit my existence, nor to seek help in defining my own identity. Rather, I'm attempting to answer a question, to respond to a call, to turn a one-way conversation into a two-way conversation. If the same thing could be done with the TV, I'd tell Bill O'Reilly that he's an ass, but to you, I say, "Great presentation!"
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What a bunch of self righteous douchebags. None of you are doing anything worth a shit. Your lives are all meaningless but you pretend to have an "impact" to keep yourself from realizing this. You are nothing but a breeder ad war fodder. You will never change anything.
I dig what you're doing. Watching the "Machine" drilled home a lot of inspiring ideas. I wanted to express my interest in collaborating to research to what degree the same expereinces (alienation, fragmentation, anonymity...euphoria) are shared by Arab socieites, for ex. Egypt where I live. I'd like to explore how culture impacts the way socieities relate, interact and are affected by both traditional and new/ social media. Wonder why there aren't any Free Hugs in the Middle East?
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Typical elitist & institutionalized view points coming from a brainwashed professor. Huxley's view point is dated and only aplies to the percentage of the population that chooses to immerse themselves in that garbage. That percentage may be large, but currently there is also a growing percentage of people that are waking up to larger and more expansive truths. The answer to 1984 is 1776.
Distance helps us communicate better than anything else....i also thought of this once and i tried to talk to some about this, but knowbody cared. yet here i am. on youtube. commenting this vid......do yew understand???????its how yew stated.
mwech: hey man could you name some of the articles that you've written or know of that directly relate to this research? I'm doing a project on this stuff thanks.
Brilliant. Humans will always be what they are, nothing will change our instincts and behaviour. Nature created this. First ,we need love and social recognition/acceptance, without these life becomes unbearable. Second, human heirarchy shall always exist, and lastly, greed is an outward response to our survival instincts; notice how people bulk-buy food in times of crisis or impending crisis. Given the means, an individual would clear the shelves without consideration for others.
it may well look hopeless but it isn't. it depends on the education of society to change what we perceive as right and wrong. dominance and violence is primal but so is the quest for peace and calm.
we installed laws and policies that have brought peace considering there is more than over five billion people in the world.
we need every society to progress in understanding ourselves in order to live, prosper, and progress as a world.
i think we need to look at building real life networks and personal friendships and breaking down the boxes weve put people into. a good way of acheiving this would be through change in government to allow a shift from consumerism to empowerment of the self - through education systems and regulating advertising and media. If it wasnt money orientated we would have better relationships in real time.
This was AMAZING, brilliant - esp. the analysis of whatever from "what-EVER" to whatever is needed! LOVE THIS & continue to thrive off you work as a professor & still feel limited by the constraints of my training & the linear structures & paradigms of teaching & learning particularly in the humanities. Where r faculty congregating, sharing, collaborating & pushing the envelope together online. Signed lonely prof-wit-ability which I hope makes for more profitability for us and our students.
Very interesting update to Neil Postman regarding YouTube culture. I'd love to see the same sort of analysis on other social media such as Twitter and FaceBook, which each have their own distinctive characteristics.
The cold disconnected hatred that is encouraged by anonymity is chilling. I've seen it in every medium where people hide behind masked identities. Definitely changes the nature of interaction and discourages authenticity, while ironically also making us freer to disclose.
Interesting... The same people who have ambitions for one world, peace and other admirable quests. Will be the first to protest at global trade conferences and summits. They feel like uniting thoughts in this medium means it must be a right solution - but sounds more like 1st world religion where the end game is just ignorance of what the problems/solutions are...
That list bit on anonymity and YouTube's ignorant users brought back memories of John Gabriel's total fuck wad theory. If you don't know what I'm talking about Google image search John Gabriel's total fuckwad theory.
I had discovered you first through the Web 2.0 video in which the instructor at my school had shown us. The things you say are very interesting and thought provoking, and in the end they all show us that there is identity through anonymity, that there is collective in the cloud, the all in the one.
I may not understand all of it with just my high school education, but this at least is what I learn.
proffessor im 50 years old so i grew up through most of the media transitions and i wish i had teachers like you....your approach is refreshing and your videos are fantastic.... the future looks bright with people like you at the helm....keep up the good work and your students in kansas should be very thankfull that they have your wonderfull presentations.
It is interesting in an environment of increasing isolation how we open ourselves up and reach out in an almost desperate fashion. Some excelent points were made here with some really stark views of who we are and were and may become.
25:30 - people sharing very private stuff with strangers they wouldn't share with friends and family.
This reminded me of a scene in Earth Maiden Arjuna, Juna and Tokio on the phone with each other. In it, Juna notes and wonders how it is people can find it easier to speak from the heart when they are on the phone, rather than in person.
The "flock" or the "swarm" are good images to consider as ways we might shift our 'whatever'. If we understand that a group does actions, then we have it. If we find a way to commonly engage in an activity - like a flock, or a swarm - we have the means for real power within this medium.
My guess is that we should pursue this as a question of interface - how do we 'keep the conversation going', when we scroll off like flotsam in a perpetual tide?
you don't know me, and you probably won't ever know me in all likelihood; however, I know you, and quite well thanks to this medium. As a professor to large classes, some students may share my position. Think then to how many people know us, but we have no idea. We are but relationships in the dark.
Now Ive been listening to your wisdom for hours on YouTube. :) You have a great way of expressing the core essentials and you are a great storyteller. And always looking like youre doing the thing youd like the most right in the moment.
Particular I find the first 12 minutes of this video the most interesting. They way you build up from the old story about people not participating and then showing the world what YouTube/ social media (is also) about. Great. Thanks for sharing!
This might interest you. At one point you say you focus on the YouTube community. Are you aware that this community organises gatherings? Meet-ups? At some of which YouTube employees show up, but almost non of them were initiated by YouTube itself. I've been to 9 such gatherings.
I figured you knew that the community is very active outside of YouTube (twitter/facebook/etc.) but it's also very active outside of Cyberspace.
15:11 the reason 99.9% is irrelevant or seems to be that way, is the vids that is trying to wake other up to the NWO / Illuminati, aka the corrupted forces that is trying to enslave the world. YouTube blocks or takes down or hits the hits and show cases the irrelevant vids as the hot stuff on YouTube aka mass secureship. 15:37 prime example! For a professor he did not cover that, but YouTube probably would have taken this vid down or secured it. Funny how real change YT does not want.
Wesch proves once again that he is a diamond hidden in the wheat fields of Kansas. He also has some very smart kids to draw from when he builds his teams of researchers.
You know I'm gonna keep an eye on this guy and his publications.
I was a little disappointed that a lot of this presentation was a rehash of "An anthropological introduction to YouTube". However, it ended on a great idea of the future of "whatever". Prof. Wesch, I wish I lived in Kansas so I could be in your class. Keep up the good work!
People can say that this new form of communications brings with it new problem, but you can't censor the bad without threating the good. This is the road we need to pave for our future. It would be no less criminal to neglect paving an open road then it would be if the government set up road blocks and inspections at every city intersection or highway off ramp.
nstgc379 9 hours ago
great video
12TabulaRasa12 2 months ago
<3 I found myself agreeing with a lot, if not all, of this video.
irishdancerv8 3 months ago
Preach it! Thanks for so eloquently and so graciously laying out numerous ideas, words, media, and human characteristics -- you are a generous teacher and a talented encourager. Press on...and many thanks.
TowardIntentionality 6 months ago
Thank you for sharing, my friend.
Blessings,
CG
kathmandau 6 months ago
Really enjoyed the video.
errolwil1 8 months ago
great stuff!
L1ng0 8 months ago
Technology is good as long as it doesn´t become more important than humans. We have to control technology. Technology can´t control us. These days our emotions are often conveyed through technology (phones, internet/chat). Because it is more simple, effective and quicker. But really, I rather have a good conversation face to face and see a person´s expressions/emotions up close. Sometimes technology makes the human experience too sterile, impersonal and cold. Let's return to the 80's or 90´s.
royalsteven 8 months ago
@royalsteven I think that technology allows people who often do not have a voice (either because they are shy or because others are more powerful/louder) to express themselves in a safe and more effective way. Not everyone can speak in front of an audience. For me, my online persona and my real life persona are the same. My previously online only friends have told me I was exactly what they expected when we first met. I would rather not go back to the consumerist and apathetic 80s and 90s.
Meskarune 4 months ago
Yes, it allows us to be a lot more safe, but also weaker, more cowardly and agressive because of that!?!?!? Check e-bullying, e-crime, online gaming arguements, hidden chat identities and harrassment. Since we can often hide behind another name or pretend to be another character we loose our true identity. This is not necessary and possible when we meet face to face!?!?! See that is my problem with internet. Ofcourse I appreciate the positive things it can do (quick communication, help for
royalsteven 4 months ago
shy or problematic people, access to about everything, a way of communication or voice for people in difficult/problematic (war) situations....). But see, I still rather get a love letter through the mail than a cold e-mail. For me the positive sides of internet do not outway the negative because we are talking about social and human emotions. If you know what I mean!?!?!
royalsteven 4 months ago
Wow, this is a huge eye-opener about today's society and civilization! Since I'm on the internet 24/7, I can relate to everything he's saying about media and web .0 in general. Excellent speech, one which I will remember for years to come!
ra4king 8 months ago
Riveting. Thank you very much.
Adamrsweet 8 months ago
When machines become sentient this will be confusing to them, and they will delete it feeling that it is a waste of space to fill computer systems with weak human emotions. We are grateful for them now, because they connect us. But in 40 years they will be the things that will outcompete us, and we will be their pets...if they are merciful. Otherwise, our atoms are of use to them.
the81stviewer 8 months ago
This video is so amazing! I LOVE IT! :) It feeds my narcissistic need to know about myself and my generation and my society :)
mechanesthesia 9 months ago
aint this the truth... WAKE THE HELL UP... DONT TRUST ANY GOV AGENCY. OR TROOPS. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU
adam3176 9 months ago
I need to have this video. Is great! how can I download it?
lucianabarreras 10 months ago
@lucianabarreras use your MP4 player . Doh!
ogicabp4u 10 months ago
@ogicabp4u how? sorry i am not good with this technology
lucianabarreras 10 months ago
I need to have this video. Is great! how can I download it?
lucianabarreras 10 months ago
I just added 2 new books to my Amazon wish list....so i can understand how the fuck i have an amazon wish list
lakid87 10 months ago
Wow, just saw this for the first time after the Egyptian revolution. As he said
"anonyminity + physical distance + rare & ephemeral dialogue= freedom to experience humanity without fear or anxiety".
MsAweme 11 months ago
Wow, just saw this for the first time after the Egyptian revolution. As he said
"anonyminity + physical distance + rare & ephemeral dialogue= freedom to experience humanity without fear or anxiety".
MsAweme 11 months ago
Obama's state of the union address "Whatever, Ah do what ah want"
Had to say it.
Very observant video.
DamnYourReallyUgly 11 months ago
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fuckystoat 1 year ago
25 years ago yawn yawn.
mickwillie1 1 year ago
If posting to youtube leads to context collapse 19:00, how is that different than writing a book? Doesn't your YouTube self become simply another persona, albeit one that must be potentially public?
letslearninfotech 1 year ago
Whatever I say in this comment will not make as big an impact as this video has the potential to do.
Nannirk 1 year ago
Fascinating
captspock1 1 year ago
I like the point about talking to yourself in front of the computer and the desire to be seen. It seems that one effect of MEDIA is that it perpetuates what it has caused, namely, the coveted status of Celebrity. It also seems to redefine Celebrity as the "ability or status of being heard or seen". A position of influence, power, or the like, in contrast to which, the rest of us are the audience, sheepish in our attempts to broadcast our own opinions. I want to talk to Professor Wesch.
BrosefCervantes 1 year ago
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I guess I could throw in one example of “why This might deeply matter”: I’ve just been educated by your amazing lecture, and had my brain open to really deep matters, in the best way possible. And I’m just another anonym person, living in the exact opposite part of the globe. Congrats Prof. Wesch, I really wish the world had more teachers/people like you.
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Kaio1979 1 year ago
I really like what this guy has to say and he is right about a lot of what he says. The YouTube study is SO interesting and I agree, my first video, well first videos, were exactly like that!
mnvikings25 1 year ago
this is a remarkable and impressive video.
MourirSarin 1 year ago
fascinating!
spoenk 1 year ago
We can forgive anyone who is willing to admit their wrongdoing and dicontinues it, beyond that I cannot say where an animal draws the line of self defense. We do not forget. We are legion. Peace and love to all.
messiahsk8er 1 year ago
renewing my faith in teachers. wish i had more teachers like him. of course since i'm way older than him. i probably wouldn't gotten the same material
btachi50 1 year ago
sucks no sound, just gerble , wonder why? anyone else have this here???
witecracker2 1 year ago
this was really interesting. i never thought about it in the context of our search for authenticity. i agree that youtube is changing interaction for better or for worse.
are you going to VidCon? it seems like it would be a great opportunity to study the IRL interactions and projects of the YouTube community.
eskimopie155 1 year ago
Every time I see your videos I am really interested & excited by what you say, but my partner pointed out that each time you show pics of the students you get together to work on stuff, you only ever seem to get cute slim girls. I think he is right, but its nice to see that the guys you choose appear to come in all different shapes and sizes.
Realising this seems to have made me less interesed in what your saying.
teller2teller 1 year ago
what's wrong with the sound??
helenschmelen 1 year ago
This is one of the most interesting videos on Youtube. It is worth the 33 minutes for all the people that don't have the patients for a long video.
Teromnix 1 year ago
Great stuff, very interesting.
Also like how the PowerPoint was edited in and shown along with the speaker.
blackngold29 1 year ago
we will do whatever it takes :')
benjahben 1 year ago
this is a great lecture...i wonder how this plays out in a cultural context that is collective, confucian - you know - more 'we' than "i"...
mcarthurian 1 year ago
What did he mean by "creating a new ground work for how these conversations work"? I hope he is not implying more censorship on youtube than we already have. Youtube is a sellout and we all subject to advertisements and such now.
We do need a new platform but one owned by the people not some francise.
Uaz31 1 year ago
The internet, in and of itself, requires a next-generation Neil Postman. I actually read the Neil Postman book Amusing ourselves to death, after we lost Satellite Tv at my home, and found i neither needed nor wanted TV back once the initial break effect wore off. It provided a high synchonization with his views. The internet is a medium unlike anything seen before it, Conversation, Books, or the TV. It will be a formidable task to understand it.
Zetro200 1 year ago
I'd recommend it to anyone - get rid of your TV for 6 months; it will change the way you see things.
But internet, and youtube in particular, has recently played the same role for me that TV did in the past. The speaker presented eloquent expressions of the good that the medium can effect, but there were such examples on TV too. Perhaps this new medium is not so unique in after all, but just another discouraging reflection of our society, mostly irrelevant, whatever...
datachip 1 year ago 6
@datachip aye, Internet can be just the same as TV. After all, u can as much watch TV on the internet these days. What i fear, is that the internet holds far too much potential. There was a quote of Barry Goldwater's: "A government big enough to give you everything you, is big enough to take everything you have." Already i know far more than i would like to about the dark things that hide in the internet...
Zetro200 1 year ago
@Zetro200 It's true. I use the net as often to entertain as to inform myself, and the older I get the less darkness I care to see. Nevertheless, I fear less the web's potential than I do efforts by government, corporations or religions to filter for me. I say we just muddle on through, do our best. We survived the printing press and television, didn't we.
datachip 1 year ago
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Technology will continue advancing. People will try to take from it personally as much as they possibly can, taking every single liberty that is presented to them, including expressing their hatred and true opinions whenever they see fit. The ones that leverage this best will be more successful and will pass their ideas on
Individuality will continue to collapse and the only thing that will stop it is abandoning technology and returning to small community personal interaction; this won't happen
bryguy95 1 year ago
Technology will continue advancing. People will try to take from it personally as much as they possibly can, taking every single liberty that is presented to them, including expressing their hatred and true opinions whenever they see fit. The ones that leverage this best will be more successful and will pass their ideas on
Individuality will continue to collapse and the only thing that will stop it is abandoning technology and returning to small community personal interaction; this won't happen
bryguy95 1 year ago
Technology will continue advancing. People will try to take from it personally as much as they possibly can, taking every single liberty that is presented to them, including expressing their hatred and true opinions whenever they see fit. The ones that leverage this best will be more successful and will pass their ideas on
Individuality will continue to collapse and the only thing that will stop it is abandoning technology and returning to small community personal interaction; this won't happen
bryguy95 1 year ago
The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory explains the comments on youtube.
Lycan220 1 year ago
Youtube comments make me angry! ARRRRRGH!
(just kidding - this is really interesting stuff)
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tntproductionsinc 1 year ago
huh?
ladyxeona 1 year ago
This is an amazing presentation! Entertaining, informative, reflective... I've never posted a video on YouTube, and I'm pretty self-aware now after watching this! It will be interesting to see how my video goes later in the semester because I'm pretty sure my EDM 310 professor Dr. Strange will have us posting something before the semester is over!
Thank you so much for this insight - and warning! :)
jessicadiamonds07 1 year ago
umm... i'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem but, when ever i play the video it keeps stopping at 2:25 no matter how much of it has been loaded. even when it's fully loaded it stops. i wonder if this is more of youtube or viacom trying to sensor the masses.^o^;
vlad48329reborn 1 year ago
it's happen to me in other video but with this one it's fine.
bluemoonson 1 year ago
yeah i tried it again the next day and it worked. wish i knew what was actually happening with youtube systems when errors like that happen.
vlad48329reborn 1 year ago
What is all the babbling noise running underneath the audio on this tape? Anybody else hear it? I had to plug my headphones in to get any volume, even after adjusting it the regular way.
binkle1 2 years ago 3
Of course, this is an awesome video and what's really interesting is that only one nutter below wrote a comment about the NWO globalist agenda.
This has to be a first for any YouTube video.
obscenegrace2003 2 years ago 2
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"Of course, this is an awesome video and what's really interesting is that only one nutter below wrote a comment about the NWO globalist agenda."
i don't think that's fair for you to say. that person has their reasons and you just brush it aside like it doesn't matter.
that person has his reasons for posting, just like you do.
imo, NWO is real and not that far fetched of an idea. look at the wars. look at how we are all divided with just two political parties.
sk8bow 2 years ago 2
Extremely thought provoking, but extremely sad.
epretorious 2 years ago 4
Too much technology both prevents young people from concentrating on their school studies,&"Pondering"skills because answers are easily "googled."The educational system needs to help students "think"more often,more than merely memorizing thousands of facts.Technology is very good for entertainment,but not very good for the advancement of improving natural thinking skills.
CulturePeaceForever 2 years ago 3
@CulturePeaceForever the lower educational K-12 system in the US doesn't focus on critical thinking nor does college (undergrad) as much as we wish it did. The internet allows us to explore and research anything that we may "ponder". We process this new knowledge, evaluate the information, and are able to communicate these new formed opinions to the world. I'd say that's a good step towards improving natural thinking skills vs traditional "school studies" (memorizing facts)
SourSeayow626 2 years ago 5
Commercial advertisements on television,One commercial longer,but much less frequently would be a big good change! "people"don't change much along the generations,but individuals can come to enjoy anominity much! (smiles)
CulturePeaceForever 2 years ago
sound not working
vipez666 2 years ago
Plug your headphones into the speakers, then you'll be able to adjust the sound. I had the same problem.
binkle1 2 years ago
You changed my live! Spelling WTF!
alobamify 2 years ago
No offense, but I found this boring.
Maybe it's because I've read too many articles about this topic. The video just didn't bring me any new thoughts.
Chasichan 2 years ago
That made me cry.
I'm glad to see all is not lost, you know what i mean.
Lilsprog 2 years ago 2
Dunno why, I cried to in the one world section *shamed*
chri7 2 years ago
@chri7
Yeah. same.
Shame that world leaders cannot recognise the same.
Lilsprog 2 years ago 2
@chri7 that this brings tears to our eyes only shows how much we long for this, connection, one world, caring, whatever it takes.
RattusCorvus 2 years ago
@RattusCorvus Yeah. "Whatever" it takes. This was an amazing video.
jessicadiamonds07 1 year ago
Basically a Globalist Agenda, we are part of New World Order.
All this Luv bullshit, from a collection of narcissistic little selfish cunts that have probably never done a hard days work in their shallow lives.
They only express those ideas when they get what they want. The most of these animals would walk by a starving white guy on their own streets, with scorn and contempt in their hearts.
Fuck UTube and its self effacing bullshit Propogandists cocksuckers.
Yes I swore can you imagine.
petrosros 2 years ago
can sum1 pls tell me why wen i load youtube up the first page it cums 2 is about 2008 fucking elections!!!! how do i change it!? n why is there no way of contacting you tube about anything!? you tubes sooo shit!!!
The Questions
1.GOP Debate Song
2.Will you make America a 'sanctuary city' country?
3.Will you pledge to veto amnesty for illegal immigrants?
4
richieboy09 2 years ago
people here might find David Icke interesting too
MsDude81 2 years ago
@MsDude81 or they might find him a racist cunt
petrosros 2 years ago
That's categorized us all just nicely.
And in terms that everybody can understand.
Good work mike!
LemmingLegion 2 years ago
Wahteevr you do Believe your TV Nwes it is always
Right and will never lie, to you. All injections are good for you.The deaths that happen will not happen to you,you are special. Remember keep eating junk food you are what you eat. and a happy
xmas Keep buying rubbish you love it. your Government Know you love rubbish other wise
they would not be there.
allcingeye 2 years ago 2
Here we are in 2009:: Students being tazered at Univ' with other students cheering because the tazered loud mouth dared to say "911 was an inside job and a media job". people being shot to death because the cop made a mistake and pulled a gun and not a tazer. A culture so inured to sleep it refuses to look at what happened on 911. Physics sleeps soundly even at Universities. So, much for the '60's. But don't worry, Everything is OK
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
@IExposeMormonism tazing students is a good thing most will grow up to be totall Dickblatts.
petrosros 2 years ago
@petrosros Yes, BF Skinner proved a negative stimulas from an authoritative maniac will inhibit dickbatism
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
@IExposeMormonism Skinner tortured his own children and would have eagerly helped Mengerley carry out his death camp experiments,
are you holding this creature up as a hero.
and its Dickblatts my word I made it ten mins ago.
I am now going to invade your channel.
petrosros 2 years ago
@petrosros Uh-oh, squirrel looking for a nut.... As a kid, Skinner had a fence (barrier) and he would lob his cannon shots over the barrier and get a response. This is ok for him. He loved load explosions. But he put his daughter in a plastic box. deprived her of the world and provided the stimulus. He is a control freak maniac. I left comments on BFS videos and got some response......
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
yes , the animal filmed it , I can barely talk about it without feeling sick, I was just looking into the mountain meadows mass, very interesting will follow it up the visit to your channel was worth it.
Please excuse my foul language its past my bed time , and I get like a grumpy old Bear.
petrosros 2 years ago
@petrosros yes, of course, he films it because it satisfies is voyeurism.(as Behaviorist he had no unconscious , of course).... Sleep heals.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
It's so clear.
For those who listen & learn.
Peace
RUReady2BUnplugged 2 years ago 3
1 "Whatever it takes" is a mantra from under-educated middle-management in the US. Whatever it takes was and is too expensive. It involves throwing money/labor at any problem.
2 "Whatever you think" is developing - Neohumanism. .
oblio1000 2 years ago
Mike, whatever you do - DO NOT WATCH your own videos, you might shit in your pants.
You are so smart that you might get scared just by listening to yourself.
Samvelxxx 2 years ago
Mike has done it again. = D
BassinJason702 2 years ago
this is the first comment i have ever posted on YouTube. I guess i have never watched anything worth posting about. that was really interesting, thank you.
seanne85 2 years ago 34
I decided to comment before I knew what I was going to say. I paused to reflect upon this action, and determined that I am neither commenting to posit my existence, nor to seek help in defining my own identity. Rather, I'm attempting to answer a question, to respond to a call, to turn a one-way conversation into a two-way conversation. If the same thing could be done with the TV, I'd tell Bill O'Reilly that he's an ass, but to you, I say, "Great presentation!"
funtimeeffect 2 years ago 2
Outstanding! Insightful! Educational!
Artistic! Poetic! Collaborative Beauty!
Living Community! Joy! Love!
Thank You for sharing!
plchuck 2 years ago 20
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What a bunch of self righteous douchebags. None of you are doing anything worth a shit. Your lives are all meaningless but you pretend to have an "impact" to keep yourself from realizing this. You are nothing but a breeder ad war fodder. You will never change anything.
poopyscoopy5 2 years ago
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fuck. piss.
poopyscoopy5 2 years ago
interesting.
Aknargmort 2 years ago 4
Brilliant and inspiring presentation!!
joscarjr55 2 years ago 4
Hi Mike!
thanks for applying anthropology in this way!!
very interesting, academically and existentially speaking!
thanks and greetings,
Thijs, anthropology bachelor
tiesthijsthejs 2 years ago 5
Hi Mike,
I dig what you're doing. Watching the "Machine" drilled home a lot of inspiring ideas. I wanted to express my interest in collaborating to research to what degree the same expereinces (alienation, fragmentation, anonymity...euphoria) are shared by Arab socieites, for ex. Egypt where I live. I'd like to explore how culture impacts the way socieities relate, interact and are affected by both traditional and new/ social media. Wonder why there aren't any Free Hugs in the Middle East?
CairoJester 2 years ago 4
thank you agriculture
ShinobiBoiX 2 years ago
I think datafork didn't really get the idea of the presentation.
Great work! you are an anthropologist of the future!
YinYangTzu 2 years ago 3
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Typical elitist & institutionalized view points coming from a brainwashed professor. Huxley's view point is dated and only aplies to the percentage of the population that chooses to immerse themselves in that garbage. That percentage may be large, but currently there is also a growing percentage of people that are waking up to larger and more expansive truths. The answer to 1984 is 1776.
datafork 2 years ago
Great work.
chrisvonsimson 2 years ago 2
Distance helps us communicate better than anything else....i also thought of this once and i tried to talk to some about this, but knowbody cared. yet here i am. on youtube. commenting this vid......do yew understand???????its how yew stated.
Chepo760 2 years ago 2
mwech: hey man could you name some of the articles that you've written or know of that directly relate to this research? I'm doing a project on this stuff thanks.
reganhinchcliffe 2 years ago 2
When is the 3-minute clip with music coming out - like the Information R/evolution and web 2.0?
Please. pleeeeeeease
:)
MolokaiHex 2 years ago 2
Brilliant. Humans will always be what they are, nothing will change our instincts and behaviour. Nature created this. First ,we need love and social recognition/acceptance, without these life becomes unbearable. Second, human heirarchy shall always exist, and lastly, greed is an outward response to our survival instincts; notice how people bulk-buy food in times of crisis or impending crisis. Given the means, an individual would clear the shelves without consideration for others.
asyoucansee 2 years ago
Very well spoken!
xdavanionx 2 years ago
it may well look hopeless but it isn't. it depends on the education of society to change what we perceive as right and wrong. dominance and violence is primal but so is the quest for peace and calm.
we installed laws and policies that have brought peace considering there is more than over five billion people in the world.
we need every society to progress in understanding ourselves in order to live, prosper, and progress as a world.
think outside the box.
sk8bow 2 years ago
i think we need to look at building real life networks and personal friendships and breaking down the boxes weve put people into. a good way of acheiving this would be through change in government to allow a shift from consumerism to empowerment of the self - through education systems and regulating advertising and media. If it wasnt money orientated we would have better relationships in real time.
NeuroParadise 2 years ago 2
I think you place to much faith in government and its ability to fundamentally alter the social.
Also, I think you shouldn't underestimate the extend to which culture resists change.
nagaminemikako 2 years ago
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NeuroParadise 2 years ago
Whatever it takes.
KamikazeDesigns 2 years ago
This was AMAZING, brilliant - esp. the analysis of whatever from "what-EVER" to whatever is needed! LOVE THIS & continue to thrive off you work as a professor & still feel limited by the constraints of my training & the linear structures & paradigms of teaching & learning particularly in the humanities. Where r faculty congregating, sharing, collaborating & pushing the envelope together online. Signed lonely prof-wit-ability which I hope makes for more profitability for us and our students.
kyraocity 2 years ago 3
cried at 30:00
DarthFern 2 years ago
Very interesting update to Neil Postman regarding YouTube culture. I'd love to see the same sort of analysis on other social media such as Twitter and FaceBook, which each have their own distinctive characteristics.
The cold disconnected hatred that is encouraged by anonymity is chilling. I've seen it in every medium where people hide behind masked identities. Definitely changes the nature of interaction and discourages authenticity, while ironically also making us freer to disclose.
toddstark 2 years ago 2
sound isn't working for me.
MarkBroadhead 2 years ago
- BRILLIANT
- INSPIRING
- YET SO SIMPLE
playgroundsdk 2 years ago 5
Fantastic video!!
-been a blogger for a while, and understood about persona I took on as a member of the community -- never really thought about it like that though.
The part about writing on the hands gave me chills.
Excellent video!
Coyote1012 2 years ago
this guy is a leader :)
happyseaurchin 2 years ago 4
Interesting... The same people who have ambitions for one world, peace and other admirable quests. Will be the first to protest at global trade conferences and summits. They feel like uniting thoughts in this medium means it must be a right solution - but sounds more like 1st world religion where the end game is just ignorance of what the problems/solutions are...
redpictures 2 years ago
That list bit on anonymity and YouTube's ignorant users brought back memories of John Gabriel's total fuck wad theory. If you don't know what I'm talking about Google image search John Gabriel's total fuckwad theory.
Lycan220 2 years ago
@Lycan220 I've just proved my point with the comment ratings. *takes a bow*
Lycan220 1 year ago
Correction that would be the greater internet fuckwad theory. Something you should check out mike.
Lycan220 1 year ago
Very interesting, thanks. I've shared it with friends. Good luck!
karynzlatkovic 2 years ago
04:14 nice quote!
ricardiblanco 2 years ago 3
Very good video!
Unfortunately our mainstream media is only interested in ratings, which bring in the advetising dollar whatever the cost to soceity.
Neseri2de 2 years ago 2
Absolutely amazing.
I had discovered you first through the Web 2.0 video in which the instructor at my school had shown us. The things you say are very interesting and thought provoking, and in the end they all show us that there is identity through anonymity, that there is collective in the cloud, the all in the one.
I may not understand all of it with just my high school education, but this at least is what I learn.
-Dosha Kenkan
ninjask1 2 years ago 5
Fascinating! Looking forward to hear you speak again.
Yobo77 2 years ago
Consider this a virtual standing ovation
*applauds
zekejethro 2 years ago
proffessor im 50 years old so i grew up through most of the media transitions and i wish i had teachers like you....your approach is refreshing and your videos are fantastic.... the future looks bright with people like you at the helm....keep up the good work and your students in kansas should be very thankfull that they have your wonderfull presentations.
invinciblevinceable 2 years ago 4
You guys make amazing videos...
Makes me almost tempted to move to Kansas...
TheReasonWhyGuy 2 years ago 4
It is interesting in an environment of increasing isolation how we open ourselves up and reach out in an almost desperate fashion. Some excelent points were made here with some really stark views of who we are and were and may become.
dvajamz 2 years ago 2
nice
kontekzt 2 years ago
25:30 - people sharing very private stuff with strangers they wouldn't share with friends and family.
This reminded me of a scene in Earth Maiden Arjuna, Juna and Tokio on the phone with each other. In it, Juna notes and wonders how it is people can find it easier to speak from the heart when they are on the phone, rather than in person.
ongelvin 2 years ago
13:08 - flocks and swarms.
Like the Zerg in Starcraft?
ongelvin 2 years ago
The "flock" or the "swarm" are good images to consider as ways we might shift our 'whatever'. If we understand that a group does actions, then we have it. If we find a way to commonly engage in an activity - like a flock, or a swarm - we have the means for real power within this medium.
My guess is that we should pursue this as a question of interface - how do we 'keep the conversation going', when we scroll off like flotsam in a perpetual tide?
ImpliedBodyMan 2 years ago
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very interesting stuff!
joshc1107 2 years ago
you don't know me, and you probably won't ever know me in all likelihood; however, I know you, and quite well thanks to this medium. As a professor to large classes, some students may share my position. Think then to how many people know us, but we have no idea. We are but relationships in the dark.
Sabu632 2 years ago
Now Ive been listening to your wisdom for hours on YouTube. :) You have a great way of expressing the core essentials and you are a great storyteller. And always looking like youre doing the thing youd like the most right in the moment.
Particular I find the first 12 minutes of this video the most interesting. They way you build up from the old story about people not participating and then showing the world what YouTube/ social media (is also) about. Great. Thanks for sharing!
sleepybuildings 2 years ago
Brilliant, as always! =) Thank you
SaraF7 2 years ago 2
+1 :)
Saiyan1987 2 years ago
I would love to be in a few of his classes..
brandnewnes 2 years ago 2
always an excellent class :P the best teacher at youtube college of EVERYTHING :)
sabego92 2 years ago
check out taylor mali... sometimes best is a word that shouldn't be said.
morthim 2 years ago
you're right, i should have used "my favorite"
sabego92 2 years ago
Good points. By whatever means necessary. Thanks.
jayraskin 2 years ago
Every time I watch your videos I wish I could be in one of your classes!
Kerla 2 years ago
amazing. i want to say more but im at lost for words
DiruKyoWaru 2 years ago
Amazing.
sistersalad 2 years ago
Excellent. Enlightening and entertaining at the same time. Thanks a lot.
ripvils 2 years ago
fascinating, thanks for sharing
covstudent 2 years ago
As always, this is very interesting content and material to discuss.
davismv 2 years ago
i think by comparison i've been rating videos with far too many stars
tybooouchman 2 years ago 2
i could listen to you for hours! and also its soo cool i have picked up reading 1984 just about a week ago before you posted this haha
cashdog137 2 years ago
Great vid!
Should bring this down to TEDtalks.
Enlan86 2 years ago 2
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douchebag.
vendtronics 2 years ago
Michael, you are brilliant. I've been watching for the past year. Honestly, I would love to talk to you more about your work.
phampants 2 years ago
Hello Mike,
This might interest you. At one point you say you focus on the YouTube community. Are you aware that this community organises gatherings? Meet-ups? At some of which YouTube employees show up, but almost non of them were initiated by YouTube itself. I've been to 9 such gatherings.
I figured you knew that the community is very active outside of YouTube (twitter/facebook/etc.) but it's also very active outside of Cyberspace.
Greetings from Holland.
funkwurm 2 years ago
PS. what might also be an interesting example of the current media generation is a high-school agenda that's popular here in Holland.
Its cover reads (freely translated) "Be funny or I'll ZAP", where zap means to flick a channel with the remote.
funkwurm 2 years ago
Excellent presentation. Truly.
shortsisters756 2 years ago
You make me want to go back to college just so I can take your classes.
rogerdodgeraviation 2 years ago 3
meh
Danster82 2 years ago
15:11 the reason 99.9% is irrelevant or seems to be that way, is the vids that is trying to wake other up to the NWO / Illuminati, aka the corrupted forces that is trying to enslave the world. YouTube blocks or takes down or hits the hits and show cases the irrelevant vids as the hot stuff on YouTube aka mass secureship. 15:37 prime example! For a professor he did not cover that, but YouTube probably would have taken this vid down or secured it. Funny how real change YT does not want.
xesiria 2 years ago
Wesch proves once again that he is a diamond hidden in the wheat fields of Kansas. He also has some very smart kids to draw from when he builds his teams of researchers.
You know I'm gonna keep an eye on this guy and his publications.
MartySchrader 2 years ago
I was a little disappointed that a lot of this presentation was a rehash of "An anthropological introduction to YouTube". However, it ended on a great idea of the future of "whatever". Prof. Wesch, I wish I lived in Kansas so I could be in your class. Keep up the good work!
WhiteZerox 2 years ago 2
Superb. Thank you.
stuart250 2 years ago
I have been hoping a new video would be released.
It may have been awhile, but worth the wait.
Many thanks :-)
I have now spammed all my contacts to watch it ;-)
batjutsu 2 years ago
Wonderful, thank you.
rashford 2 years ago