Ducc...looks like YOU are the racist here brother. I am a black musician and everyone makes their own choices on how they handle their business. Quit blaming white musicians for choices blacks make. I can give a list of several bad decisions that whites have made too. So ya see, it is not about color...its individual choice bro.
Can't we all just enjoy the song without all the bullshit ranting about race? It's well known that rock and roll is a direct musical descendent of black music. The last I need when I watch videos on Youtube is to be lectured by some Internet wannabe-badass about the evil white man.
Well Kate Hudson was married to him. Now divorced but OMG was I jealous when that happened. I had the biggest crush on Chris -3. The blues no matter black/white north or south if sung correctly (which means it coursing thru their veins) can make me laugh, cry and just plain feel fucking great!!
Pretty sure Otis Redding would dig this. And fun fact: Paul Shaffer is such a fan of Booker T. & the M.G.s that he copies Booker T.'s penchant for wearing different sunglasses every night.
These mutherfuckers are the coolest white boys that ever lived and were produced by the South. They know exactly what influences to use and I swear to God that they could've played in any Black Baptist church from VA to MS.
Wow, let's play spot the influences; lemme see, Rod Stewart & The Faces, Mick Jagger, 70s glam rock, southern rock... what the hell, it cooks! Gotta love the Crowes, man!
Um, these fellas ain't nothing but rock n rollers who grew up in church. And Chris is obviously a student of Otis Redding - and not because Redding sang this tune first. That being said - this is black southern music with rock, country and the blues over a gospel foundation. Y'all cain't hear it because only a southerner grounded in the culture could spot these influences.
Stewart, the Stones, all those British R&B/blues bands were posers. TBC is straight up authentic.
@TheDucciano Well thanks for the music lesson, man. Guess I'm just not southern enough to pick up on those influences. But if you can come down from your lofty perch, watch The Faces singing I'm Losing You on You Tube and be real honest (1) are these guys just a bunch of posers and (2) do you really think they had no influence on The Crowes????
White people, when it comes 2 music, never seem 2 give props where props are due. U listed a whole bunch of white boy bands. No. TBC have more Black American musical influences than those English rock bands who listened 2 Black blues musicians & desired only 2 be black blues musicians. TBC grew up in that musical milieu - the south; they were not affected like Stewart & the Stones. TBC = black gospel/blues + white boy country/rock. They aint white boy English affected wannabes
Yeah, I pretty much nailed it. Us USA Southern negros own half of the Black Crowes. The other half
is Southern white boy country. Fucking get over it and realize that the music in this country that is any good is
BLACK based. We gave y'all jazz, rock, blues, R&B, soul, hip hop; these are the dominating musical influences in America. Jazz alone makes us superior musicians. Jazz is ours! Rock is ours! Blues is ours!
@TheDucciano Um, I'm from Canada and I can hear the Southern blues influence... you don't necessarily have to be from the Southern states. And to say the music is "yours" is implying that you personally helped come up with it...
Say "you're welcome" on behalf of the southerners from the 50's and 60's for sure, but including yourself is a bit of a long shot? Just my opinion.
1. The Stones, Faces, LZ = not from the south = Affected = posers
2.TBC from the south = Effected = authentic
3. "Yours" implies a prevailing Black American influence, not me personally tho' i'm Black - I dont know how u interpreted that TBC owe their sound 2 me
4. Whites tend 2 fail giving Black music its due diligence - in this case, white band influence listed before mentioning Black American influences (gospel/blues/rock/R&B)
White people always latch on2 a black art form (whilst hating our culture - a fucking strange paradox), adopt it, revamp it to fit white tastes and then act like they own it. I'm sorry (not really) but TBC are more indebted to Black Southern Americans than those white boy English blues/rock bands. Dont get me wrong: I luv TRS, Faces, LZ but I aint no dummy: wannabe black bands with country thrown in the mix. RocknRoll (Black euphemism for FUCKING) is Black.
And these white boy English blues/rock bands made millions hand over fist, adopting and revamping a Black American art form: Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry died broke! Mick Jagger is getting knighted and DIDDLEY and BERRY DIED BROKE!!!
And don't get me started on Robert Plant's stealing, pasty, art form stealing ass. He's a major thief living in some fucking castle in the UK while Black blues players have to play til they drop.
Fer fuck's suck - you white boys are something else.
No argument on the theft. Hell, the Stones got 100% royalties from Bittersweet Symphony just for a string sample of a Stones cover, not even a Stones track.
Can black musicians play Mahler? I hope so.
Seems to me if you go back far enough the apes invented the groove by banging a thighbone on a skull.
I live in Scotland, where people like to be proud of their "Braveheart" warrior heritage. But really, everybody drinks lattes and shops at Ikea on the weekend.
There IS no argument 2 b made about theft - ur not doing nothing by conceding that. Black musicians can play Mahler, dipshit. Wait - he wrote piano pieces? NEways, thats still a dumb ass & ignorant question: there are several black classical pianists. If u go back far enuff, rhythm & ALL OF HUMANITY came from Africa - whats ur point? Willy Wallace is dead. But whites ripping off Black American art is happening in 3..2..1...right the fuck now.
@glammer And its not the ripping off that bothers me; there is no such thing as art conceived and practiced in a vacuum. Its the disingenuous appropriation, lack of respect and lack of educating listeners 2 wut they're getting their rocks off 2 aurally. Whites just assume rock is a white art form. Wrong. And then have the gall 2 allow their Black pioneers to die poor while they live in English manors and are knighted 4 doing "spook music" as Plant uttered recently. Suck Chuck Berrys cold dick.
@TheDucciano TOTALLY! Led Z. Were selling white America a rehashed version of music they ignored by people forced to live in 3rd class poverty in their own fucked-up "superpower" country!
Nobody crediting Mr Redding for his outstanding contribution on here, either!
@guitarkidshredman Bitch shut up. Shred these nuts. My point still stands: in music, white boys rip off black artists and then pass it off as their own (see rock, blues, jazz, hip hop).
@litatyas Boy shut up. White people are artistic thieves. You hate Black America. You hate Black American culture. But you sure do love to steal our music.
If you want to talk about "artistic thievery" (and I use that term loosely), you should consider the hip-hop artists who have sampled music made by white men.
People like you are despicable. Racism is racism no matter how you slice it, and your "Black vs. White" worldview is sickening. Great music is great music, and it can inspire anyone of any race.
If anything, you should feel honored that black music has inspired so many of the world's greatest musicians.
@excellentyogurt Wrong. Listen, you cocksucker, black artists sampling white artists had to CREDIT those white artists. Therefore, white artists got PAID for being sampled. Black artists that white artists ripped off of and stole from were NOT PAID nor CREDITED. So you are wrong, fucker. I wanna see Jimmy Page credit all the black artists he "sampled" er, cough cough "STOLE" from and let them get paid. You think I'm despicable? Fuck you, btich.
Since the ownership of this song presumably began this debate in the first place, it's worth noting that Otis Redding IS credited in the liner notes for the "Shake Your Money Maker" album.
And while there's no denying that artists like Jimmy Page took others' music and used it as their own, no serious person can argue that it was out of racial hatred or whatever bizarre line of logic you want to use. It's pretty obvious that you're a troll in desperate need of attention.
@excellentyogurt Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, and all those other rich white boy rockers need to pony up their hard earned cash and donate it to all the Black artists they "emulated" who are either dying broke or their families. My rancor isnt directed towards Page et al themselves but against the system (white record execs, publishers) who consistently dogged black artists out and then paid white artists for STEALING black music which they considered "nigger art" and beneath them.
I don't necessarily have a problem with your argument that they stole the music without properly crediting the artists - while I don't believe that such is true across the board, my problem stems from you making this a racial issue. Thanks for acknowledging that the musicians themselves aren't necessarily what you have a problem with. Still, I don't think that all the white executives, etc. were intentionally trying to undermine artists such Chuck Berry because of their color.
A lot of the blues songs that guys like Clapton covered both live and in the studio during the 60s had long become standards of the genre. So many artists had done their own takes on those songs that it's hard to say that it was a collective effort to undermine what they supposedly considered "nigger art." Music in general has always been in part about copying other people's ideas, sometimes without credit.
@excellentyogurt You are still missing my point. Yes, there is no original player in music. All have their influences. But white artists STOLE: that is, they didnt give credit for their influences. They stole outright and did not pay any royalty to any black musician who was in no position to demand a royalty from music stolen. So yes, music is a partnership among equals. The last time I looked, blacks were still NOT considered equal with whites. You white boys like to steal & NOT GIVE CREDIT.
@TheDucciano Art is influenced by life. Just as you say, white people are influenced by black people (which is racist, because you imply that white people are incapable of originality), black artists are also influenced by something else in their lives. Therefore, your argument is both racially motivated, and completely pointless.
No serious person could honestly believe that musicians such as Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, etc. were not, in fact, emulating their favorite blues artists out of admiration for the music, but instead simply stole the music because, by God, they were evil cocksucking whites who hated the black man. Your argument has no basis in reality and has no evidence to support it - in fact, all the evidence points in the other direction.
@excellentyogurt You can emulate all you want. When you STEAL, do not CREDIT and then live in countryside English manors while the black artists you "emulated" die broke, yeah, I get a really bad fucking attitude towards some white musicians. Mick Jagger is a fucken gazillionaire. Chuck Berry still struggles. Bo Diddley died BROKE. Shut your mouth, boy.
@fonou no really he is singing the right words to the song hes just singing them in a different way hes not singing it the way he did on the album ..on the album its recorded in a recording studio and this was a live performance so anytime its a live performance its not going to sound just like the recorded album ...but these are the right words hes not making any of them up as he gos along ..all live performance's sound a little different
@TheSteelersrock1010 dont get me wrong , I love live perfomances , and I assume it´s not going to sound like in the album . In live performances is were you see if a band is realy good and the black crowes are really , eally goooooood.
@fonou thanks for the nice comment its hard getting a nice comment from someone with out them getting smart ..so thank you ..and yeah the black crowes are really good ...
@fonou no really he is singing the right words to the song hes just singing them in a different way hes not singing it the way he did on the album ..on the album its recorded in a recording studio and this was a live performance so anytime its a live performance its not going to sound just like the recorded album ...but these are the right words hes not making any of them up as he gos along ..all live performance's sound a little different
Sweet like mango, salty like pretzel! You put two flavors together and you get Black Crowes, maybe coffee too! Hearty flavors. Like diamonds pulled from earth, like casting spells on youth. Resist? Never, especially in Army!
Another great American institution fallen by the wayside: the most happening musical acts of the day going on "Late Night" and performing with Paul Shaffer & his crack 'Most Dangerous Band', in effect, super-sizing themselves! Pretty cool!
to compare this band with led Zeppelin is an insult to leds. Crowes is the band who succeeded without any musical charisma among any of its band members. led zeppelin is the powerhouse of technique, artistic skills,superb musical intellect, musical philosophy. these were the basis of their success. on the contrary crowes is just the band who were lucky enough to have few good tunes which eventually led to their success.can crowes engineer a song like stairway to heaven.?
@morganyorkfrancis .....no they didn't steal the song. you can do history search.stairway was composed by leds originally....anyway the point i was trying to make was Black crowes is a good band but they dont contain musical geniuses like jimmy page and robert plant....but its just my view anyone is allowed to differ from
@u1sewa yes, they did. search harder... they stole a ton of shit. it's actually pretty ridiculous. zeppelin sounded great, but to say it's an insult to compare them to a group that actually created their own songs is hilarious.
@u1sewa fair enough led zeppelin are an amazing band and started a new genre of music but the black crowes are the best band i have ever heard they have plenty of songs as good as stairway maybe even better. but hey everybodys entitled to their own opinion and music is an art interpreted different by everybody!
"Hard to Handle" is a 1968 song originally recorded by Otis Redding and written by Redding, Al Bell and Allen Jones. It was released posthumously after Redding's death in 1967 on the album The Immortal Otis Redding. Redding's version reached #38 on the Billboard R&B charts and #51 on the pop charts. The Crowes didn't write it and actually did it pretty much like Redding's recording. Not to slam the Crowes, but they are covering a song, almost note-for-note, written by a genius. Hard to lose...
@Deaniebeany Please.. this is music.. go fuckin' study ownership and copyrights somewhere else, just leave me out of it when i check the comment section.. fuckin infection on my computer screen.. LEAVE ME BE
@Deaniebeany To just clarify, yes most people do know that Otis wrote this shit and its a really good song, fuckin love it, just use the time you have to live to enjoy the stuff, NOT CLARIFYING STUFF BECAUSE ITS BORING TO KNOW. Im not bashing the gift of knowledge, i mean its not a necessity to know if Otis wrote it or not and its not in your hands to give people this knowledge... you dont have to be a teacher. Thank you and have a good day.
@konkelberryfinn Calm down little buddy, I didn't know that little tidbit and I'm glad to be informed, even if it was from here. At least it helped me out and I like to know info like that. YOU can say something about me after I post this and call me what you like, instead of being positive, but that reflection will lie upon you. But because of your anonimity, I believe you will still take a pot shot at me. Thanks Deaniebeany for the info!!!!
@konkelberryfinn Don't speak for everyone, some people like to know who the original artist is. It encourages exploration of bands the readers may not have heard before. Someone might like Otis Redding and listen to other music he wrote all because of this video. It may not be a necessity to know, but it is a privilege. He is not shoving knowledge down anyone's throats either...the comment is on a YouTube video of all things with a meager amount of views. He's not teaching, he's informing.
es uno de los mejores grupos q te regresan ala eecencia q es el buen rock an roll esa voz raspoza la quisiera en mis conciertos habla nacho coocker para TODA LA BANDA
I saw them the other night... They were sooooo much better live back in the day. Guess that's why they're callin' it quits though. Still give 'em props for getting out there and doing it, but damn... This was almost too perfect.
@Andrewhateverwhatever; I see your point. All the great rock singers had vocal coaches and learned to sing opera and choral music. Robert Plant and John Lennon were both outstanding classical singers.
@AndreSiraSebastian Can't control his breath? What makes you the boss on what you should or shouldn't do in rock n' roll? The sound crew can't handle him that's why it's up and down. This is rock n' roll. Go back to your Clay Aiken. He'll do it up Happy Meal for ya
@raceyblood I'ts not up for discussion, when he started and in the middle he ran out of breath, given he could have been nervous but still. And i've never heard Clay Aiken sing in my life so that proves your stupidity cause you jumped to assumptions about someone just after you read something that dissagrees with you, grow up kid. P.S. I haven't eaten a happy meal in about 10 years. Go learn something biggot
@raceyblood Ok, live your lie. But when a vocal coach comes and makes you angry with just the truth you'll see i'm right. Plus if you're so much of a mental infant to just get angry at anyone who points out something you don't like YOU are the kid. PS if you think actually matters in anything but nubers it shows more of your ignorance, and by the next reply you'll send wich i guess is gonna be a childish dissmisal of reality this words are wasted on ya so BYE and try to mature
@AndreSiraSebastian Yeah, duck out when you're getting owned. I'll give you a couple weeks to fumble around like a friggin' idiot trying to explain Bob Dylan. This isn't Broadway. Rock n' roll is a feeling. It's a movement. It's an IDEA. It's an expression. Rock n' roll is raw. It's rugged. It's uninhibited. It's primal. You can take your vocal coach and shove it clean up your ass because I don't give a fuck about it. How's 'bout dem apples?
@AndreSiraSebastian Live my lie? You are an arrogant piece of shit picking apart a WAY above average rock n' roll TV performance and you're criticizing me? You think Chris Robinson, The Black Crowes, myself, and and millions of other fans give two shits about your "vocal coach"? Holy shit, shut up! Go shave your goatee and listen to your Pat Boone records. Good God.
@raceyblood i don't have a goatee, don't know who Pat Boone is, it's not MY vocal coach i said ANY vocal coach would prove it true for 'ya. Arrogant? not in one instance i was picking apart just stating a point. But all your stereotypes and assumptions prove my point so there you go. I'm not the kid caging the other into some idea of what bad is with your goatee, Pat Boone, happy meal, and clay aiken references. I'm not the inmature one here, and that IS a fact.
@litatyas Sounds like he's in the moment phrasing some rock n' roll and having fun to me. It's okay to have fun in rock n' roll. It's not all a competition like American Idol.
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@pretorious700 You're a retard. These guys are about the only thing holding rock n' roll together these days. Educate yourself before you start spouting off uninformed gibberish.
THIS IS SOUL and I think Otis Redding would really dig it. 'Bit of Rod and Steve Marriott (God bless 'im) here - this is strictly a compliment, dontcha know....
With all due respect to all other countries with long hostories of great Rock bands, this is just another fantastic example of completely great American R&R!!!
@rockinroller7@quadx22 no guys.. what's butchered about this is that otis retting and the grateful dead have the best versions. this is simply crap on all levels.
@jeffgh87 I may be an "Old Man," by your standards, and also as a musician, I can still recall seeing "The Dead," do this live when I was 15-16.
As for Otis, anyone with any music, "sense," knows what he was all about, and how he put his own "Stamp," on this song. God, I miss him.
Sadly, this is just another example of a seemingly all knowing, "Young musician," who can't help but make his point without negative words. Now you have another chance, but I won't respond.
There is nothing butchered about this...this is amazing...if you wanna here butchered then listen to them play Hard To Handle now days...it's not bad but he has lost his amazing voice.
@QuadX22 What in the world is butchered about this? This is incredible. If you want to hear it exactly like the album just listen to the album? They are artists, not robots programmed to replicate the album over and over again. You'll eventually figure it out.
hey guys type in "jekj2008" and you can see my band cover this at a school talent show. thats right 10 YEAR OLDS covering the black crowes check it out
This is a great video with brilliant energy. Mix of the Stones, Aerosmith and even a young Rod Stewart. Would have loved to have been in that audience.Great Stuff!
Wow. I haven't been online in over a month, and this thread went to hell. LOL Hey Litayas, I was crying. I stated what I said in a very diplomatic matter, unlike you who can't have a halfway decent conversation without getting your panies in a wad. It's music. We'll all survive. Promise.
nice... :3
gothicmeiry 3 weeks ago
probably the baddest white band out at that time - they deffiniely have the bad lead vocalist
Shiftyeyes516 1 month ago
cool....
27rockaddict 1 month ago
Toby Mcguire as a rock star??? lol
northbreed67 2 months ago
@northbreed67 wow, I never noticed that until just now, lol!
HearingLossProvider 1 week ago
like
sixted6769 2 months ago
It amazes me how racism can surface on just about anything. Just enjoy the music people. It's not about race, it's about good music.
ccbcstudentpastor 3 months ago
Ducc...looks like YOU are the racist here brother. I am a black musician and everyone makes their own choices on how they handle their business. Quit blaming white musicians for choices blacks make. I can give a list of several bad decisions that whites have made too. So ya see, it is not about color...its individual choice bro.
ajaxmissle1 3 months ago
Heinous and righteous rock and roll right here!!!!!!!!! Black Crowes emmer effer!
tuff47 4 months ago
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litatyas 4 months ago
coolness!
uranne 5 months ago
Can't we all just enjoy the song without all the bullshit ranting about race? It's well known that rock and roll is a direct musical descendent of black music. The last I need when I watch videos on Youtube is to be lectured by some Internet wannabe-badass about the evil white man.
excellentyogurt 5 months ago
@excellentyogurt Amen
thedoorsforever 4 months ago
Well Kate Hudson was married to him. Now divorced but OMG was I jealous when that happened. I had the biggest crush on Chris -3. The blues no matter black/white north or south if sung correctly (which means it coursing thru their veins) can make me laugh, cry and just plain feel fucking great!!
LolalynnThomas 5 months ago
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litatyas 5 months ago
being a biker this is just so good...groovin down with yr woman and many other likeminded bike freaks...yeah baby...
hawkwindism 6 months ago
Pretty sure Otis Redding would dig this. And fun fact: Paul Shaffer is such a fan of Booker T. & the M.G.s that he copies Booker T.'s penchant for wearing different sunglasses every night.
duhg599 6 months ago
I cannot quantify, or even fathom how much pussy this man must have got
FIM2010 6 months ago 11
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.......
Tonezone 6 months ago
These mutherfuckers are the coolest white boys that ever lived and were produced by the South. They know exactly what influences to use and I swear to God that they could've played in any Black Baptist church from VA to MS.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
Sick guitar solos :D love Black Crowes
BenK8319 6 months ago
paul chaffer on keyboards!!!!!
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skiportillochile 8 months ago
These guys really rocks this song: youtube.com/watch?v=4oTn1e23ofQ&NR=1
VinniePaul94 8 months ago
Wow, let's play spot the influences; lemme see, Rod Stewart & The Faces, Mick Jagger, 70s glam rock, southern rock... what the hell, it cooks! Gotta love the Crowes, man!
geedus71 8 months ago 15
@geedus71
Um, these fellas ain't nothing but rock n rollers who grew up in church. And Chris is obviously a student of Otis Redding - and not because Redding sang this tune first. That being said - this is black southern music with rock, country and the blues over a gospel foundation. Y'all cain't hear it because only a southerner grounded in the culture could spot these influences.
Stewart, the Stones, all those British R&B/blues bands were posers. TBC is straight up authentic.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano Well thanks for the music lesson, man. Guess I'm just not southern enough to pick up on those influences. But if you can come down from your lofty perch, watch The Faces singing I'm Losing You on You Tube and be real honest (1) are these guys just a bunch of posers and (2) do you really think they had no influence on The Crowes????
geedus71 6 months ago
@geedus71
White people, when it comes 2 music, never seem 2 give props where props are due. U listed a whole bunch of white boy bands. No. TBC have more Black American musical influences than those English rock bands who listened 2 Black blues musicians & desired only 2 be black blues musicians. TBC grew up in that musical milieu - the south; they were not affected like Stewart & the Stones. TBC = black gospel/blues + white boy country/rock. They aint white boy English affected wannabes
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano
Yeah, I pretty much nailed it. Us USA Southern negros own half of the Black Crowes. The other half
is Southern white boy country. Fucking get over it and realize that the music in this country that is any good is
BLACK based. We gave y'all jazz, rock, blues, R&B, soul, hip hop; these are the dominating musical influences in America. Jazz alone makes us superior musicians. Jazz is ours! Rock is ours! Blues is ours!
Give credit where credit is due fuckers.
You're welcome.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano Um, I'm from Canada and I can hear the Southern blues influence... you don't necessarily have to be from the Southern states. And to say the music is "yours" is implying that you personally helped come up with it...
Say "you're welcome" on behalf of the southerners from the 50's and 60's for sure, but including yourself is a bit of a long shot? Just my opinion.
pitythefool26 6 months ago
@pitythefool26
1. The Stones, Faces, LZ = not from the south = Affected = posers
2.TBC from the south = Effected = authentic
3. "Yours" implies a prevailing Black American influence, not me personally tho' i'm Black - I dont know how u interpreted that TBC owe their sound 2 me
4. Whites tend 2 fail giving Black music its due diligence - in this case, white band influence listed before mentioning Black American influences (gospel/blues/rock/R&B)
5. The end of Black Moon Creeping is confirmation
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano
White people always latch on2 a black art form (whilst hating our culture - a fucking strange paradox), adopt it, revamp it to fit white tastes and then act like they own it. I'm sorry (not really) but TBC are more indebted to Black Southern Americans than those white boy English blues/rock bands. Dont get me wrong: I luv TRS, Faces, LZ but I aint no dummy: wannabe black bands with country thrown in the mix. RocknRoll (Black euphemism for FUCKING) is Black.
And ur welcome.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano
And these white boy English blues/rock bands made millions hand over fist, adopting and revamping a Black American art form: Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry died broke! Mick Jagger is getting knighted and DIDDLEY and BERRY DIED BROKE!!!
And don't get me started on Robert Plant's stealing, pasty, art form stealing ass. He's a major thief living in some fucking castle in the UK while Black blues players have to play til they drop.
Fer fuck's suck - you white boys are something else.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano
No argument on the theft. Hell, the Stones got 100% royalties from Bittersweet Symphony just for a string sample of a Stones cover, not even a Stones track.
Can black musicians play Mahler? I hope so.
Seems to me if you go back far enough the apes invented the groove by banging a thighbone on a skull.
I live in Scotland, where people like to be proud of their "Braveheart" warrior heritage. But really, everybody drinks lattes and shops at Ikea on the weekend.
glammer 6 months ago
@glammer
There IS no argument 2 b made about theft - ur not doing nothing by conceding that. Black musicians can play Mahler, dipshit. Wait - he wrote piano pieces? NEways, thats still a dumb ass & ignorant question: there are several black classical pianists. If u go back far enuff, rhythm & ALL OF HUMANITY came from Africa - whats ur point? Willy Wallace is dead. But whites ripping off Black American art is happening in 3..2..1...right the fuck now.
And the Rangers fucking suck.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@glammer And its not the ripping off that bothers me; there is no such thing as art conceived and practiced in a vacuum. Its the disingenuous appropriation, lack of respect and lack of educating listeners 2 wut they're getting their rocks off 2 aurally. Whites just assume rock is a white art form. Wrong. And then have the gall 2 allow their Black pioneers to die poor while they live in English manors and are knighted 4 doing "spook music" as Plant uttered recently. Suck Chuck Berrys cold dick.
TheDucciano 6 months ago
@TheDucciano TOTALLY! Led Z. Were selling white America a rehashed version of music they ignored by people forced to live in 3rd class poverty in their own fucked-up "superpower" country!
Nobody crediting Mr Redding for his outstanding contribution on here, either!
PEACE.
MrGunboat78 6 months ago
@TheDucciano Chuck Berry is still alive. Shows how much you know
guitarkidshredman 5 months ago
@guitarkidshredman Bitch shut up. Shred these nuts. My point still stands: in music, white boys rip off black artists and then pass it off as their own (see rock, blues, jazz, hip hop).
TheDucciano 5 months ago
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litatyas 4 months ago
@litatyas Boy shut up. White people are artistic thieves. You hate Black America. You hate Black American culture. But you sure do love to steal our music.
TheDucciano 4 months ago
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litatyas 4 months ago
@TheDucciano Can't we just get along? Just think how much nicer the world would be. And the comments are for the songs. Go fight somewhere else.
Great song! Thanks for posting:)
thedoorsforever 4 months ago
@TheDucciano I bet you would call me racist if I called you a black prick? But its ok to say white people are theives and hate america?
I'm sorry, but racism works both ways.
Calling white people show's that you are racist, and the person you were commenting to see's no race at all.
I don't see a skin colour, I judge people just on WHO they are, not WHAT they are, but you sir, are a cunt
w0bbl3r 4 months ago
@TheDucciano
If you want to talk about "artistic thievery" (and I use that term loosely), you should consider the hip-hop artists who have sampled music made by white men.
People like you are despicable. Racism is racism no matter how you slice it, and your "Black vs. White" worldview is sickening. Great music is great music, and it can inspire anyone of any race.
If anything, you should feel honored that black music has inspired so many of the world's greatest musicians.
excellentyogurt 4 months ago
@excellentyogurt Wrong. Listen, you cocksucker, black artists sampling white artists had to CREDIT those white artists. Therefore, white artists got PAID for being sampled. Black artists that white artists ripped off of and stole from were NOT PAID nor CREDITED. So you are wrong, fucker. I wanna see Jimmy Page credit all the black artists he "sampled" er, cough cough "STOLE" from and let them get paid. You think I'm despicable? Fuck you, btich.
TheDucciano 4 months ago
@TheDucciano
Since the ownership of this song presumably began this debate in the first place, it's worth noting that Otis Redding IS credited in the liner notes for the "Shake Your Money Maker" album.
And while there's no denying that artists like Jimmy Page took others' music and used it as their own, no serious person can argue that it was out of racial hatred or whatever bizarre line of logic you want to use. It's pretty obvious that you're a troll in desperate need of attention.
excellentyogurt 4 months ago
@excellentyogurt Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, and all those other rich white boy rockers need to pony up their hard earned cash and donate it to all the Black artists they "emulated" who are either dying broke or their families. My rancor isnt directed towards Page et al themselves but against the system (white record execs, publishers) who consistently dogged black artists out and then paid white artists for STEALING black music which they considered "nigger art" and beneath them.
TheDucciano 4 months ago
@TheDucciano
I don't necessarily have a problem with your argument that they stole the music without properly crediting the artists - while I don't believe that such is true across the board, my problem stems from you making this a racial issue. Thanks for acknowledging that the musicians themselves aren't necessarily what you have a problem with. Still, I don't think that all the white executives, etc. were intentionally trying to undermine artists such Chuck Berry because of their color.
excellentyogurt 4 months ago
@TheDucciano
A lot of the blues songs that guys like Clapton covered both live and in the studio during the 60s had long become standards of the genre. So many artists had done their own takes on those songs that it's hard to say that it was a collective effort to undermine what they supposedly considered "nigger art." Music in general has always been in part about copying other people's ideas, sometimes without credit.
excellentyogurt 4 months ago
@excellentyogurt You are still missing my point. Yes, there is no original player in music. All have their influences. But white artists STOLE: that is, they didnt give credit for their influences. They stole outright and did not pay any royalty to any black musician who was in no position to demand a royalty from music stolen. So yes, music is a partnership among equals. The last time I looked, blacks were still NOT considered equal with whites. You white boys like to steal & NOT GIVE CREDIT.
TheDucciano 4 months ago
@TheDucciano Art is influenced by life. Just as you say, white people are influenced by black people (which is racist, because you imply that white people are incapable of originality), black artists are also influenced by something else in their lives. Therefore, your argument is both racially motivated, and completely pointless.
bigbengamer 3 months ago
@TheDucciano SHUT UP STUPID,,QUIT YUR BITCHIN
phatboy1967 4 months ago
@TheDucciano
No serious person could honestly believe that musicians such as Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, etc. were not, in fact, emulating their favorite blues artists out of admiration for the music, but instead simply stole the music because, by God, they were evil cocksucking whites who hated the black man. Your argument has no basis in reality and has no evidence to support it - in fact, all the evidence points in the other direction.
excellentyogurt 4 months ago
@excellentyogurt You can emulate all you want. When you STEAL, do not CREDIT and then live in countryside English manors while the black artists you "emulated" die broke, yeah, I get a really bad fucking attitude towards some white musicians. Mick Jagger is a fucken gazillionaire. Chuck Berry still struggles. Bo Diddley died BROKE. Shut your mouth, boy.
TheDucciano 4 months ago
@TheDucciano Chuck Berry struggles cause he let his dick ruin his career more than once. and his poop fetish.
mrjoeljoel 4 months ago
@geedus71 Don't forget Otis!
abernam 3 months ago
@geedus71 Don't forget Joe Cocker. Chris has stated many times that Joe is his idol.
wink89815 1 month ago
I can see why they let Jeff Cease go. He is clearly the weak link here.
davidurge 8 months ago
this is not a music..
ledzep = music.
berakkuda127 8 months ago
wow. chris robinson when he didn't look like jesus. what a trip.
dsh1224 9 months ago
This guys do magic . He is completly making up the words as he sings , but , who cares?? This song is great !
fonou 10 months ago
@fonou no really he is singing the right words to the song hes just singing them in a different way hes not singing it the way he did on the album ..on the album its recorded in a recording studio and this was a live performance so anytime its a live performance its not going to sound just like the recorded album ...but these are the right words hes not making any of them up as he gos along ..all live performance's sound a little different
TheSteelersrock1010 9 months ago
@TheSteelersrock1010 dont get me wrong , I love live perfomances , and I assume it´s not going to sound like in the album . In live performances is were you see if a band is realy good and the black crowes are really , eally goooooood.
peace
fonou 9 months ago
@fonou thanks for the nice comment its hard getting a nice comment from someone with out them getting smart ..so thank you ..and yeah the black crowes are really good ...
TheSteelersrock1010 9 months ago
@fonou no really he is singing the right words to the song hes just singing them in a different way hes not singing it the way he did on the album ..on the album its recorded in a recording studio and this was a live performance so anytime its a live performance its not going to sound just like the recorded album ...but these are the right words hes not making any of them up as he gos along ..all live performance's sound a little different
TheSteelersrock1010 9 months ago
led zep is the shit and black crowes too rock baby that all it is....
markdurocher100 10 months ago
Jeez I am a jazz fan and I love this song...the Crowes are great. How can you NOT like this? F F sakes....
BlueMountainMystic 10 months ago 2
OH yeah!!!!!
3LOYOLAS 10 months ago
Sweet like mango, salty like pretzel! You put two flavors together and you get Black Crowes, maybe coffee too! Hearty flavors. Like diamonds pulled from earth, like casting spells on youth. Resist? Never, especially in Army!
autocord1 10 months ago
Album version > Live version
WayneM70 11 months ago
Its a cover tune in the midst of hair band hell................god bless the Black Crowes.
LLB61959 11 months ago
Another great American institution fallen by the wayside: the most happening musical acts of the day going on "Late Night" and performing with Paul Shaffer & his crack 'Most Dangerous Band', in effect, super-sizing themselves! Pretty cool!
ShockTactic1 11 months ago
to compare this band with led Zeppelin is an insult to leds. Crowes is the band who succeeded without any musical charisma among any of its band members. led zeppelin is the powerhouse of technique, artistic skills,superb musical intellect, musical philosophy. these were the basis of their success. on the contrary crowes is just the band who were lucky enough to have few good tunes which eventually led to their success.can crowes engineer a song like stairway to heaven.?
u1sewa 1 year ago
@u1sewa "can crowes engineer a song like stairway to heaven.?"
i know zeppelin can't. they stole that shit, dummy.
morganyorkfrancis 11 months ago
@morganyorkfrancis .....no they didn't steal the song. you can do history search.stairway was composed by leds originally....anyway the point i was trying to make was Black crowes is a good band but they dont contain musical geniuses like jimmy page and robert plant....but its just my view anyone is allowed to differ from
u1sewa 11 months ago
@u1sewa yes, they did. search harder... they stole a ton of shit. it's actually pretty ridiculous. zeppelin sounded great, but to say it's an insult to compare them to a group that actually created their own songs is hilarious.
morganyorkfrancis 11 months ago
@u1sewa fair enough led zeppelin are an amazing band and started a new genre of music but the black crowes are the best band i have ever heard they have plenty of songs as good as stairway maybe even better. but hey everybodys entitled to their own opinion and music is an art interpreted different by everybody!
litatyas 10 months ago 2
"Hard to Handle" is a 1968 song originally recorded by Otis Redding and written by Redding, Al Bell and Allen Jones. It was released posthumously after Redding's death in 1967 on the album The Immortal Otis Redding. Redding's version reached #38 on the Billboard R&B charts and #51 on the pop charts. The Crowes didn't write it and actually did it pretty much like Redding's recording. Not to slam the Crowes, but they are covering a song, almost note-for-note, written by a genius. Hard to lose...
Deaniebeany 1 year ago
@Deaniebeany Please.. this is music.. go fuckin' study ownership and copyrights somewhere else, just leave me out of it when i check the comment section.. fuckin infection on my computer screen.. LEAVE ME BE
konkelberryfinn 1 year ago
@Deaniebeany To just clarify, yes most people do know that Otis wrote this shit and its a really good song, fuckin love it, just use the time you have to live to enjoy the stuff, NOT CLARIFYING STUFF BECAUSE ITS BORING TO KNOW. Im not bashing the gift of knowledge, i mean its not a necessity to know if Otis wrote it or not and its not in your hands to give people this knowledge... you dont have to be a teacher. Thank you and have a good day.
konkelberryfinn 1 year ago
@konkelberryfinn Calm down little buddy, I didn't know that little tidbit and I'm glad to be informed, even if it was from here. At least it helped me out and I like to know info like that. YOU can say something about me after I post this and call me what you like, instead of being positive, but that reflection will lie upon you. But because of your anonimity, I believe you will still take a pot shot at me. Thanks Deaniebeany for the info!!!!
staindclass 1 year ago
@konkelberryfinn Don't speak for everyone, some people like to know who the original artist is. It encourages exploration of bands the readers may not have heard before. Someone might like Otis Redding and listen to other music he wrote all because of this video. It may not be a necessity to know, but it is a privilege. He is not shoving knowledge down anyone's throats either...the comment is on a YouTube video of all things with a meager amount of views. He's not teaching, he's informing.
azimuth457 11 months ago
Best voice around today
mrmeekus92 1 year ago
Simply lovely it is.
Cilleborg 1 year ago
great band....great lyrics......
kurt80888 1 year ago
@kurt80888 Thank Otis Redding...
Deaniebeany 1 year ago
Great band, right in between the Stones and maybe even Aerosmith. This is the song that "the Zeps never made"
aaaarrrgggghh 1 year ago
13 people are too easy to handle
lilbeaveymac 1 year ago 3
Paul Schaefer is in heaven jammin' with the Crowes. Haha.
shadowheart52 1 year ago
es uno de los mejores grupos q te regresan ala eecencia q es el buen rock an roll esa voz raspoza la quisiera en mis conciertos habla nacho coocker para TODA LA BANDA
TheErick112233 1 year ago
They just lit my candle...
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lemmeuk 1 year ago
A unique voice, not the same... but comparable to Bon Scott in terms of uniqueness.
SPOOKSTR 1 year ago
I saw them the other night... They were sooooo much better live back in the day. Guess that's why they're callin' it quits though. Still give 'em props for getting out there and doing it, but damn... This was almost too perfect.
HelenKellersRythem 1 year ago
Now by God that's rock n roll right there!
USAdude30 1 year ago 3
12 people have been burned by candles and didn't like it, Fuckem
NOOOQUARTER 1 year ago
you people arguing over his vocal techniques are 'gay ' ....fuck watch the video !
rocker801 1 year ago
Chris reminds me of Robert Plant
spartanwarrior340 1 year ago 10
@spartanwarrior340 I'm pretty sure he stated that Plant is one of his major influences.
WayTooDazedConfus3d 1 year ago
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@spartanwarrior340 funny that: check out the black crowes and jimmy page live at the greek
bigfoggy2006 3 months ago
@Andrewhateverwhatever; I see your point. All the great rock singers had vocal coaches and learned to sing opera and choral music. Robert Plant and John Lennon were both outstanding classical singers.
davidriggs1955 1 year ago
These guys just rock period
MOOJMIP 1 year ago
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litatyas 1 year ago
Is it just me or just the lead singer look like the lead singer from Journey?
a55kiker 1 year ago
The singer has no control over his air supply... or he was very nervous
AndreSiraSebastian 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian what are you talking about
litatyas 1 year ago
@litatyas he can't control his breath wich you should be able to do if you're a singer, that's why he sounds a bit bad
AndreSiraSebastian 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian Can't control his breath? What makes you the boss on what you should or shouldn't do in rock n' roll? The sound crew can't handle him that's why it's up and down. This is rock n' roll. Go back to your Clay Aiken. He'll do it up Happy Meal for ya
raceyblood 1 year ago
@raceyblood I'ts not up for discussion, when he started and in the middle he ran out of breath, given he could have been nervous but still. And i've never heard Clay Aiken sing in my life so that proves your stupidity cause you jumped to assumptions about someone just after you read something that dissagrees with you, grow up kid. P.S. I haven't eaten a happy meal in about 10 years. Go learn something biggot
AndreSiraSebastian 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian Not up for discussion? Then why write a whole paragraph. How's your happy meal taste, ya shmuck?
raceyblood 1 year ago
@raceyblood You're not very smart are ya?. Grow up cunt
AndreSiraSebastian 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian Shhhhh. Adults are talking about rock n' roll.
raceyblood 1 year ago
@raceyblood Ok, live your lie. But when a vocal coach comes and makes you angry with just the truth you'll see i'm right. Plus if you're so much of a mental infant to just get angry at anyone who points out something you don't like YOU are the kid. PS if you think actually matters in anything but nubers it shows more of your ignorance, and by the next reply you'll send wich i guess is gonna be a childish dissmisal of reality this words are wasted on ya so BYE and try to mature
AndreSiraSebastian 1 year ago
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raceyblood 1 year ago
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@AndreSiraSebastian Yeah, duck out when you're getting owned. I'll give you a couple weeks to fumble around like a friggin' idiot trying to explain Bob Dylan. This isn't Broadway. Rock n' roll is a feeling. It's a movement. It's an IDEA. It's an expression. Rock n' roll is raw. It's rugged. It's uninhibited. It's primal. You can take your vocal coach and shove it clean up your ass because I don't give a fuck about it. How's 'bout dem apples?
raceyblood 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian Live my lie? You are an arrogant piece of shit picking apart a WAY above average rock n' roll TV performance and you're criticizing me? You think Chris Robinson, The Black Crowes, myself, and and millions of other fans give two shits about your "vocal coach"? Holy shit, shut up! Go shave your goatee and listen to your Pat Boone records. Good God.
raceyblood 1 year ago
@raceyblood i don't have a goatee, don't know who Pat Boone is, it's not MY vocal coach i said ANY vocal coach would prove it true for 'ya. Arrogant? not in one instance i was picking apart just stating a point. But all your stereotypes and assumptions prove my point so there you go. I'm not the kid caging the other into some idea of what bad is with your goatee, Pat Boone, happy meal, and clay aiken references. I'm not the inmature one here, and that IS a fact.
AndreSiraSebastian 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian The pot calling the kettle black, eh. You're building quite the resume here.
raceyblood 1 year ago
@litatyas he can.. and he doesnt sound bad at all it just sounds like a mix between his style and forgetting the lyrics
litatyas 1 year ago
@litatyas Sounds like he's in the moment phrasing some rock n' roll and having fun to me. It's okay to have fun in rock n' roll. It's not all a competition like American Idol.
raceyblood 1 year ago
@raceyblood you do realise im on your side. i was saying hes good...
litatyas 1 year ago
@AndreSiraSebastian HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
youre funny
you are in the wrong video
soulsinging69 1 year ago
@soulsinging69 ***youtube.com/user/JMarley1983#grid/user/6671D22116E30D0B*** If you would like to see the best music videos of 1990 check my playlist out.
JMarley1983 1 year ago
Saw them in London just after their first album came out, awesome live band!!!
muggins08 1 year ago
TOTALLY class act.............!
ibanezkingtube 1 year ago
sorry, guys posing with les pauls ain't "soul music"...a watered down version at best
pretorious700 1 year ago
@pretorious700 You're a retard. These guys are about the only thing holding rock n' roll together these days. Educate yourself before you start spouting off uninformed gibberish.
raceyblood 1 year ago
Adrian Brody on steroids
fon267 1 year ago
THIS IS SOUL and I think Otis Redding would really dig it. 'Bit of Rod and Steve Marriott (God bless 'im) here - this is strictly a compliment, dontcha know....
rocktenniscat 1 year ago
one of the best bands of all time!
scooppip 1 year ago 2
The Black Crowes have aged like a fine wine.
FilmG0D 1 year ago
Love the bass lines on this version
daveofcincinnati 1 year ago
With all due respect to all other countries with long hostories of great Rock bands, this is just another fantastic example of completely great American R&R!!!
Peace.
Rock
rockinroller7 1 year ago 22
@rockinroller7 @quadx22 no guys.. what's butchered about this is that otis retting and the grateful dead have the best versions. this is simply crap on all levels.
jeffgh87 8 months ago
@jeffgh87 I may be an "Old Man," by your standards, and also as a musician, I can still recall seeing "The Dead," do this live when I was 15-16.
As for Otis, anyone with any music, "sense," knows what he was all about, and how he put his own "Stamp," on this song. God, I miss him.
Sadly, this is just another example of a seemingly all knowing, "Young musician," who can't help but make his point without negative words. Now you have another chance, but I won't respond.
Peace.
Rock
rockinroller7 8 months ago 2
@rockinroller7
True, but they are also basically just mimicking The Stones and Zeppelin...
MattTee1975 6 months ago
@MattTee1975
Yeah, after more thought, sad but a pretty good observation.
Peace.
Rock
rockinroller7 6 months ago
Soullllll alwas soulll Ca me rapelle des souvenirs ........2 times in show !
Coluche08 1 year ago
Great song, rocking and swinging, never get bored of it!!!!
Gerdina848 1 year ago
There is nothing butchered about this...this is amazing...if you wanna here butchered then listen to them play Hard To Handle now days...it's not bad but he has lost his amazing voice.
iluvmetal28 1 year ago
Probably the only time Paul Shaffer ever looked cool. :D
pac0keith 1 year ago
Outstanding,live gig....cool post !!
kezzer2 1 year ago
hes gotta geddy lee nose =P
racinghero3500 1 year ago
He sounds alot like the "replacement" guy from This is Spinal Tap.
Cdizk 1 year ago
Haha, he's that drunk he's changing the lyrics! amazing either way!
HipHop2PunkRock 1 year ago
saw u open 4 aerosmith okc:)Years ago!
misskitty19691 1 year ago
good voice yes but he butchers their songs live....why cant these ppl do their songs SOMEWHAT like the album version, live.....
QuadX22 1 year ago
@QuadX22 What in the world is butchered about this? This is incredible. If you want to hear it exactly like the album just listen to the album? They are artists, not robots programmed to replicate the album over and over again. You'll eventually figure it out.
raceyblood 1 year ago 85
@raceyblood
You're right.
And no-one can cover soul filled classics like the Black Crowes. I think with them its a matter for the music itself.
Have you heard what a great job they do with 'Zeppelin?
pgpapas 1 year ago
@raceyblood word. Especially considering who's backing them up: paul, will and syd).
although...jeff cease?
twst1 1 year ago
Luv the coordinated hair adjustment at 1:14 with Rich and..is that Marc Ford or Jeff Cease? lol
hellcat6249472 1 year ago
Nice sp☼t 1:09 hellcat
PAULLONDEN 1 year ago
OMG !!! so good!
willkarling 1 year ago
1:59 '" Gotta get your penis dirty" LOVE IT!!
bobfishypants 1 year ago
@bobfishypants
I'm about 100% sure he said "gotta get your hands dirty"...
twinblade63 1 year ago 2
what an incredible performance on the whole. They are really into what their doing. Good stuff
bassman307 1 year ago
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HIROKITAJUKU 1 year ago
Is Chris wearing a little rouge?LOLGreat performance as always!!!
1969ryson 1 year ago
love them!!
mrssehrgeil 1 year ago
hey guys type in "jekj2008" and you can see my band cover this at a school talent show. thats right 10 YEAR OLDS covering the black crowes check it out
bbdbooya 1 year ago
Definitely one of the greatest rock bands
lifeseeker82 1 year ago
This is a great video with brilliant energy. Mix of the Stones, Aerosmith and even a young Rod Stewart. Would have loved to have been in that audience.Great Stuff!
pacinopacino 1 year ago
These dudes lost a great chance ,to be imagewise next to The Stones,
After their great first album ,they became bored scruffy looking hippies.
PAULLONDEN 1 year ago
@PAULLONDEN Who cares about image. They don't . They became an honest American Rock Band after their first album. And it gets better with each one.
mattk72 1 year ago
You're wrong there Matt....image counts....
It hasn't bothered the Crowes though..they still sell out.
I long for the times,that bands sounded AND looked good.
It doesn't seem to bother the general public though, most 'bands'these days ,look as if they came straight from work.
PAULLONDEN 1 year ago
@PAULLONDEN Some of them probably DID just come from work. Just because you're famous does not mean you're rich.
ImHermanHearMeRoar 1 year ago 2
Great sound. One of the best bands of the '90s.
Surt811 1 year ago
i <3 The Black Crowes and i <3 Hard to Handle :)
RockChick399 1 year ago
GREAT BAND GREAT SONG END OF!!
MUCKER1314 1 year ago
this guys clearly have been influenced by the zeppelin and the stones,that's why they sound great
kratos3821 1 year ago
deam sing the whole text!!!
but good, preformance. good sound.
respect
daanrossi46 1 year ago
I just listen to them today. One of the greats.
TheCrocxxx 1 year ago
Wow. I haven't been online in over a month, and this thread went to hell. LOL Hey Litayas, I was crying. I stated what I said in a very diplomatic matter, unlike you who can't have a halfway decent conversation without getting your panies in a wad. It's music. We'll all survive. Promise.
bmccormick070982 1 year ago
is it just me or does the guitarist who played the solo look just like jimmy page?
marvelboy04 1 year ago
@marvelboy04
isn't he rich robinson?
gezzai 1 year ago