BLACKS AND LATINO'S ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PEOPLE, I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM IN THE HIP HOP CULTURE, BUT WHITES AND ASIANS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM THO.
@EStroz585 Yea,but the white man created the first music using the english language,the rhyming of the english language,and the rhyming of english language and hip hop is only a direct descendent to white folk music,country and all the stuff whites were doing. Don't be suprised in 20 years if hip hop isn't dominated by white dudes,lol,once they get over being called wiggers and the world excepts it. Go ahead and laugh. The roots of black music is WHITE. You think about that!
@paulypaulification Proof or you're just talking out of your ass. White people taking over hip hop is like saying black people will take over hockey. There's a few in the league but very doubtful it will happen. 20 years years? You're a bitch for even thinking that trying to be funny. The roots of black music is not white. You are flat out lying now. Before white people even met black people africans we're singing and dancing. Stop with the lying.
@WillGotti You silly rabit,all cultures sing and dance but black Africans were not singing in the English language untill a white man showed them how. You are a complete idiot to think different. Blacks only contributed to the art of using English language in music. This art form is European,fool. It sure the fuck did not come from Africa!! No,don't be naive and go fuck yourself while I beat my black sex slaves in the basement. I will be showing them your silly comments
@paulypaulification How do you know that they weren't doing it in English when they came to America. I understood what you said but I didn't acknowledge English because it's stupid to get so specific and not have proof. Stay in your la la land and be stupid talking nonsense.
@WillGotti No proof is needed,the poetry and singing of English language is European. Also,to say "STEAL" in your title is "RACIST". White people don't go around saying you stole music using English language. Did you know that African Americans were singing English folk music,country,and DRINKING MUSIC before blues existed? Oh yes,you believe what you want.
I am from the Bronx, NYC and Hip Hop was created in the Bronx by English speaking & Spanish speaking(Latino) people of "African Descent". That would be New York City Africans-Americans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans. Latino is not a race it is a a name give because of the Language Latino. Many Latinos are of African Descent. There are more people called Latino of African descent in S. America & Caribean than English speaking American of African Descent.
@kaleidescopeExp FINALLY A VOICE OF REASON! I'M FROM THE BRONX AS WELL HOMIE, & PRETTY MUCH SEEN HIP HOP BEING CREATED RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FACE! NOW I DIG MOST OF THE POINTS THAT DUDE WAS MAKING, BUT THE SEPARATION OF COLOR FROM NATIONALITY IS WHERE DUDE LOOSES ME! & THE TITLE, PRETTY MUCH SHOWS, THAT HE IS A VICTOM OF 1 OF HIS OWN STATEMENT, WHICH WAS ADOPTING FROM THE CULTURE OF HIS SURROUNDING! WHICH IS NO WAY IN HELL, WHERE WE COME FROM! DUDE NEEDS 2 DO MORE HOMEWORK!
@paulypaulification REAL TALK! IT'S ALREADY IN FULL EFFECT! IT'S REFERED 2 AS CORRECTIONAL FACILITIE'S! RAGANOMICS, 3 STRIKS! SO EVEN THE VICTOMS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE, GET 25 TO LIFE FOR 15 BUCKS OF WHITE, 5 EACH TIME! & WHAT'S CRAZY IS, WERE WAY PASS RACE! & OF THESE WHITE FOLKS, ON HERE STILL STUCK ON THE RACE THING! WEATHER THEY WANNA BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AIN'T PART OF THE IMPERIALIST END GAME! WERE ALREADY STRIP 2 THE BONE! & ADAPTED 2 STRUGGLE! ITS THE PATRIOTIC HARD WORKING
@IMAHUMANBEING100 WHITE MANS TURN! THEY THE 1'S LOOSING THEY'RE JOBS & HOME'S NOW! JUST TRYING 2 GIVE THE HEADS UP! JUST LOOK AT OCCUPY WALL STREET! THEY WERE MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE, WHO ARE AWARE THAT THE FREE PASS, 4 THE COLOR OF THEY'RE SKIN, HAS EXPIRED!!!
@aztec714ok They don't care. They simply don't care. Damn dude, I'm getting so tired of them to be honest with you. You would think that us white people were this out of control ego wise. They are trying to break the rest of our spirits at the moment on Youtube. If it isn't Music, It's Black Hebrews, if it isn't that, it's them trying to take our culture from us. Fuck them. Who needs them!
@mrohyoudidntknow All this music you call black is just as rooted in white music as black. I mean who invented the english language,poetry,rhyming of english language,european instruments,the format for all modern music,and the use of a guitar while singing sad songs in the english language? Who tought who to speak it,rhyme it,and sing it? It is no suprise Eminem did so well and Elvis is the king because he sold the most records! Nobody invented or stole anything.It is free! All races contribute
@mrohyoudidntknow All this music you call black is just as rooted in white music as black. I mean who invented the english language,poetry,rhyming of english language,european instruments,the format for all modern music,and the use of a guitar while singing sad songs in the english language? Who tought who to speak it,rhyme it,and sing it? It is no suprise Eminem did so well and Elvis is the king because he sold the most records! Nobody invented or stole anything.It is free! All races contribute
Hey u fucks didnt invent shit. U did not creat those instruments. White people made movies so i guess u niggers can stop copying white people n quit makn low rated movies too. You steal everything n u never created anything. A proven fact
What I don't understand is that when Blacks tend to borrow trends from other cultures, they don't see anything wrong with it. Yet, they are upset because other races opened their minds to give their music a chance. If it wasn't for RUN DMS and Aerosmith, rapp would have not be so popular today.
@JRiddick16 oh rapp was popular before? so why was it only played on underground radio stations. Hell, MTV wouldn't even play any rapp videos prior to the mid-eighties. Thats why they made "Yo MTV Rapps", DUMMY! Where did you get your MISinformation from? Ask any fool that was born before 1975 that white kids didn't listen or want to listen to rapp. RUN DMC's Manager wanted to open up the market to white kids, and so the made " Walk this way". Don't you look stupid Lmao @ that.
@Fatjoey2 while it might be true that MTV wouldnt play rap videos prior to the eighties. However it is also true that wp make up 70% of the U.S population so anything that is introduced to them and they take a liking to it their going commercialize and make it popular. This is another reason why 70% of ppl who purchase rap music are wp not to mention that bp don't even purchase nearly as much as their white counter parts and it wouldnt make a difference even if they did.
@JRiddick16 True WP do commercialize, BUT they have MONEY, MONEY MONEY for entertainment. It's nothing for them to spend $10-$15 dollars to be ammused for a while. Blacks and other minorities have to pick and choose what they can afford to be entertained by. Can't afford skiing, hunting, or other bullshit. Also, blacks are trapped in their own culture, they don't explore the worlds around them. WP have any culture in America, they lost touch with it, so they copy others.
@Fatjoey2 I must applaud you for stating the obvious which is wp have the money. So therefore they do sign the checks. This is one main reasons why ppl like me have been concerned with present state of HH because it has lost its substance ever since it was introduced to the guy with the suit and the tie. The same guy who had no knowledge but was just looking to make a dollar. This is not to say that all wp who are in the industry have this same mentality.
@Fatjoey2 now if your looking for me to thank wp for making rap music popular for these then I guess I would just have to appease and pay homage to them Lmao.
@JRiddick16 Appease and pay homage? Are you little wayne, or Jay z? You swear wp are signing checks over to you. LMAO. Oh wait, maybe lil wayne and jay z give you a percentage b/c your black. Is that the case? You can't be insinuating that blacks are superior, or make superior music,I know you want to hear people say this, but if that were true then Africa would be a Super World Power. They have all the resourses plus more than other countries.
@Fatjoey2 First of all your way way off base. I never once insinuated how blacks are superior or make superior music for that matter. You mentioned that if rap would not be popular if had not been exposed to non black pl. I stated that while at may be true its also true that given the population size of wp if they take interest anything their bound to make it trendy or popular for that reason. Again if this is something that helps you sleep at night let me or the bc not make a sound. Lmao
@dirtyplaya Well.explain why it existed for thousands of years and never made main stream until the whiteman put his spin on it. That's like saying that all culture music will be as popular as hip hop someday. If this is the case then, their is nothing special about hip hop in the first place.
@Fatjoey2 I just answered my own question, b/cuzz nursey rhymes were considered modern music at one time. You are right, it would of become popular anyways. Looks like whites were also rappers.
@Fatjoey2 You dumb ass,all the music you call black is just as white. Who tought blackie the english language,the poetry of,and how to play european instruments? Go ask a real African tribesman if this music is all black and maybe he will do a little black for you that is not influanced by white. You think about that
@paulypaulification its black american music...yes the language is yours but the style is all us, you think if blacks werent in america that white people could of created this genre?, i dont think so , hip-hop is was made for the people in poverty till u whites of the corporate world took a hold of it and made a profit of it smh
Blacks created Hip hop Ok not latinos they gave later contributions. of course black Music would suck with out my instruments. or without OUR consent to breath. or with out OUR influences. with out freedom of expression. with out OUR braveness and intelligence to ship black people like boxes to Americas. i guess it was all worth it lol. slaves... they always complain
@MrPa1310 That is because you have exhausted your sixth grade vocabulary and now must revert to your natural spider monkey, poo poo throwing ways. It's just you being you, I ain't made at ya!
Break dance, poppin lockin, electric boogaloo, moon walking, jerkin, krumping, jit, footwork all dances with African roots. Look up the video "19th Century hip hop. They are doing what is now known as break dance. Most of these dances were derived from African martial arts. The slave owners did not want them to practice it, so they disguised them as dance. Compare capoeira to the dancing of The Nicholas Brothers, Berry Brothers, Hellzapoppin crew, and you will see the similarities.
Hip hop origins go back to West Africa. Cab Calloway rapped on 1932 "The Man From Harlem", Louis Jordan also incorporated raps into his music. The first truly rap recording might be Pigmeat Markhams 1969 "Here Come De Judge". The first participants at DJ Hercs parties were Black kids the Puerto Ricans joined later. The majority of the music sampled was soul, funk, some blues and jazz, all Black created music forms. Puerto Ricans made contributions to a Black created art form.
LOL is this black kid crying cause he thinks were trying to steal hip hop from them. really? when we ALL know that California life style started with early chicanos where chicano culture was also imitated by blacks at the time who had no hip hop. while we had our own mexican American slang and style and our own art form vehicle(Lowrider) during the 30s 40s and 50s when blacks had soul music we had swag culture too. pachucos were fresh and G'd out with females all the time. underground culture
@BantuNation really well im sure if they did it was during the jazz swing era and Hip hop came from the street life experiences didn't it? well i no that Gangsta rap came from LA & was created with the help of Chicanos who Were there since native Americans. Eazy-E formed the group Brownside as a Chicano version of the rap group N.W.A. in the 90s bro. Latinos may not had an affect but Mexicans sure did in one genre. most Westcoast rap videos have pure Lowriders as their main screen shot backround
@MrPa1310 Black people lived on segregated plantations for centuries with the exlusion of other races. Fact. Gangsta rap takes it roots from black struggles, and Funk music. Rap goes for back beyond the 90s or the 80s for that matter, and can be traced all the way back to africa from the African Griots Fact.
@BantuNation Rap came from hip hop(corporation) and Mexicans dont really do "hip hop" but mostly Rap. Where we were influenced a lot from and influenced with our old customs. we share Rap bro whether you like it not. Our rap is more cultural in a some way
@MrPa1310 Rap does not come from Hip Hop. Hip Hop music comes from Africans, and its roots can easily be traced from African American culture which up to the 80s with heavily segregated, and in many cases still are.
The world can share music, but u can't share the history of who created the music. Classical music was created in European by Europeans. Beethoven was influenced by a Afro violinist,and even made music dedicated to him. The music is still European.
@MrPa1310 I think you are mixing some things up. Mexicans have contributed to Southern California or Chicano pop culture ie lowriding, etc. Hip-hop didn't originate as a part of a corporation. The corporate activity happened later. Our customs African(this includes African-American or Caribbean) spoken word are similar to Mexican culture. Here is another part of your problem, blacks have been rapping even in the jazz era ie Louis Jordan, Jocko, etc. We rapped in the streets also to sell fruit.
@NYhistorian bro what? no nothing in Mexico has anything to do with black people trust me the only thing that yes blacks people once came to Mexico as slaves its proven most of us have about 5 % African look at George Lopez and Eva Longoria DNA test. manly in the south of Mexico like Veracruz were its mostly African. but they contributed nothing to Mexican culture. Mexico is all Mestizo. about 10% white. 1% is nothing. we had a black president way before obama also but he was mixed as well.
@MrPa1310 "La Bamba" the most famous Mexican song, was created by the Blacks of Veracruz! It is an example of the son jarocha style created by Black Mexicans. Your second president, Vincente Guerrara was Black. Even your beloved corridos were originally the stories of slave uprisings. What about Mexican towns with names like Mocambo, Matamba, Mozomboa & Mandinga? During Mexican colonial period Africans outnumbered Spanish, so there is an African (forgotten) influence in Mexico.
@luvureallythe second president was a mulatto GIRL lol black my ass look at damn picture that white looking Afro wannbe black. Yes i love black history in Mexico but it has to do with free from slavery. see unlike here in the U.S your DNA home blacks did not have a chance. My Spanish ppl were easy on nigwats they gave you your own independent town how nice is that?. lol. you forgot yanga a black name town so? La bamba created by blacks and Santa claws was a jew also did you know? lol
@MrPa1310 Your short, yellow school bus attempt at wit and sarcasm does not erase the African influence in Mexico. Perhaps if the Africans had not been "absorbed" into the mestizo population, Mexico might have had a rich musical legacy equal to that of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Panama, etc., and you would not have to resort to "borrowing" music and dance from others - cumbia, rap, salsa, bachata, r&b, polka, rumba, ska etc.,
@luvureally lol. Girl what are you talking about. im a send you a vid about black history in Mexico told by mulatto wannabe black professor Gates. its not BIG. every race etc has to bring something. only one part of Mexico has a music genre that is mixed with black "influences" its still not close to the Spanish/Indigenous sound. every music that involves a guitar no matter how played is nothing of black. the instruments are Spanish baby not English french but Spanish babe.
@luvureally lol salsa is Spanish Music that came from Spain babe it came from Spanish Flamingo. thats not even Mexican music. we dont do salsa. not even the dance. Dominicans see Spain as there mother land. Not Africa sad as hell. so they still there music. Mexico is known for its Music culture lady it is legacy. blacks are invisible in Mexico. see my woman dance appropriate for our fathers to see its respect ok. as soon as black woman were called bitches & hoes they started acting l
@luvureally "Salsa from Spain?" no girl. its not from Spain the sound the dance the style is Spanish ok if blacks contributed to it than it would be African sound, African instruments, and African moves. Africans never brought there culture they only remembered it. girl your an African mutt so who knows what African style you had. its all fucked up. Salsa from Africa?!!! LMAO! LOL! LMAO!
nothing "Spanish" sounding about salsa - a music that is basically Cuban (Black) created music. King of salsa, Tito Puente, said the music he played was CUBAN music. You throw wild, ridiculous claims, but provide no proof. I can give plenty examples of the similarity between African music and "Latin" music. Give me an example of Spanish music that has any resemblance to salsa, mambo, etc., Traditional Spanish music, not what they picked up from "Latin" America in the last 100 years are so.
@luvureally girl proof??? proof is in the country. its in the language. its in the blood. blacks love salsa chips too hahahahahahahaha i dip mine in hot salsa do you? girl this is my point. you cant create a music type in a different language. you contribute not create. blacks never created ANY latin music like we never created hip hop. we contributed do you understand what im saying gril??
@MrPa1310 Beny More, Celia Cruz, Machito, Chano Pozo, Mario Bauzo, Perez Prado, Perez Prado and many others were BLACK Cubans (who did speak and perform in Spanish) that created Cuban music, which salsa was derived from. Your beloved "Spanish" music was an influence on this music, but it is the African part that gives it LIFE!.
@luvureally dance moves are African?? i thought Africans did kicks and swings and back flips and front flips like chipms??? oh wait haha that is salsa moves right? lol fuck salsa your right i dont know much about it i do know that Spanish ppl created it blacks contributed. see the hypocrisy there? your claiming Spanish creations now. and you say that WE steal hip hop HA listen to your self girl.
@luvureally rhythm?? i all ready told this. its only rhythm to you. you call flipping and kicking rhythm?? yea to chimps. look at selenas dance and music babe thats smooth calm rhythm
@MrPa1310 I guess that is why mexican spider monkeys all over youtube krumping, jerking, doing broken hip versions of punta, awkward salsa and bachata moves. Rhythm is life, since you have non that is why you steal the music and dance of others, trying to steal their life esse?
@luvureally i guess thats why niggity giggities all over youtube try to steal and claim other peoples cultures and contributions to the world?? lol because your ppl have no human skills but being our slaves and entertaining us after a good long day lol. see i can go there to. civilization is LIFE water is LIFE. you cant clean your own water hahaha. see music dance thats nothing. like say. get in the kitchen bring me a beer give me a dirty black dance cause that wat you do
@MrPa1310 I guess your cherry picking is a skill. Silly little spider monkey over its head and cannot contribute to an intelligent conversation. I shall leave you in your natural habitat as you amuse yourself with your true loves - scatology and self pleasure. Good evening.
@luvureally lol actually i hate cherry pickers. i would call you that. hey lol how you no i pick cherries in the summer??. self pleasure? Ha. go get me a beer. none of that redneck shit get me African beer. oh there is no African beer? go get me some black food then. my evening ant over
@luvureally why do you like Mexico culture so much? them Latin Blacks is not your bloodline no more. they dont even wanna be associated with Blacks. its because Latin culture is that great. sucks not to be part Spanish because than its not your true heritage. see thats why your beloved black ppl can not and will not admit there African. thats fucked up. its sad but its true. its like telling Me i ant Spanish. i would die. i would cry. who wants to be African? nothing Rich there. nada
@MrPa1310 Getting back to original point of this video, as BantuNation said hip hop was created by Black people in USA. Others may have contributed to it, but were not part of creation. Everybody wants to claim ownership of every genre of music and dance created by Black people in the western hemisphere.
@luvureally damn it girl your difficult. i never said we created Hip hop hell no if we did that would suck. why? because then it ignores our true cultural Spanish Music that we love. we dont do that. you like soul jazz swing. tell who under age of 25 black who likes that? lol. im not talking about creation to me the title is offensive. Im sure it was NOT a mexican who writes the wiki. to say we try to steal? when blacks try to steal ppls cultures like Afcentrics. hypocritical il say
@luvureally its a waste of time arguing with people like mrpa1310 who tries to belittle people bases on superiority complex when it comes to culture and race. My culture is better than yours. AA don't have a real history or culture. Blah blah blah. It's not to say that afrocentrics don't display the same behavior but people like mrpa have to put people down in order for him to feel better about himself regardless if their speaking of facts or opinions. Egotistic maniacs is what I
@JRiddick16 You're right. Actually it is an inferiority complex based on fear and jealousy. They don't want to be Black but want to be like Blacks! Twisted indeed!
@luvureally ugh!! and they never end. yea jealous of slaves. i all ready told you this. If we migrate to china were gonna kill there tracks there style. if we migrated to cuba were gonna kill there tracks kill there style. its called contributing like TRUE migrate citizens OK. dont be mad because we have our own thing. we do have our own sound of hip hop and and rap your just mad because you want us to be black. like the Asians and white ppl. and latinos on the east coast.
@luvureally why do you want to be Latina so bad? they have nothing to do with You. they dont wanna be you. but you wanna be them. blacks who say they are not black is ridiculous. what makes them say that?
@JRiddick16 wow what you just said about me is sooo true thank you bro. please. me and luvureally have a certain relation. we go back and forth. she stated commenting on chicano videos and thats how we meet. she insulted ME & MY PEOPLE FIRST. im gonna back up my people. i actually do believe i am part of the worlds greatest cultures and countries. remember im American too this is MY country. descendent from Aztec queens and Spanish rulers. im blessed OK i hate Hate.
@MrPa1310 i know its true but because people like you are insecure and weak minded. It wasnt you who created influences or so called freedom it was people who just looked like you(native Americans ancestors). This is the problem when taking about history people like you are basically taking credit for something that you weren't even a part. Society has conditioned people so much that they now display fear if their not a part of anything. Lol
@JRiddick16 NO it wasn't ME thats were im wrong thank you for correcting me. it was MY ancestors. if you say im taking credit for something i was not a part of...DUH! everyone does it
@MrPa1310 DUH everyone does it. Really? I guess I should belittle and spread hate simply because everybody else does it. Lmao. See I learned at a very young age that racism is a taught behavior which only proves my point all your doing is creating hate and separation by focusing on what your ancestors did way before you or I was even thought of. It's funny how people are ignorant to wonder why there is so much hate and blood shed among people in society.
@JRiddick16 whatever. im not denying that blacks created hip hopy by them selves luvureally hates chicanos and you dont know it. so im insulting her if not correcting her. you should see what she wrote the first time i read her comment. you know she is the reason why i see black Americans different now. no i see there true colors. so im gonna give them my point of views. a taste of my medicine
@MrPa1310 Oh please. You're just expressing what you actually think of Black people. You needed no prompting from me or anyone else. In your typical mestizo "wannabewhitesobadyoucantasteit" fashion you conveniently neglect to mention all the vile, racist remarks your "cousins" post while claiming classic soul/r&b as "chicano" music.
@MrPa1310 hmmm maybe if people were focusing on which group is superior and which one is inferior or who influenced and created hip.hop or salsa. Just maybe we could have peace and harmony in the world. A world where we are human beings first not black,African,Aztec or native americans.
@MrPa1310 lol NO.. Latinos these days,, Not only latinos but pretty much everyone these days are ''coppying'' Black culture... But I dont think of it that way.. I take it as if they are embracing the black culture and that makes me happy to know that people love our culture.. Only the negative ppl think of it as stealing.. It becomes stealing once they try taking cred and thinkin as if they made it... Which many try to do..
@CoolAfroNinja "copying black culture"?? hell no and besides i dont see black culture as a real culture because it has nothing to do with west African culture bro nothing. your culture manly came from us. the instruments are not your native tools. the language is not your real language ether. the western style cloths are more European too. yall act as if you invented everything from scratch yea right. when i see Latin blacks doing spanish music i see them as embracing our culture. im Mexican-->
@MrPa1310 And no the Blacks did not imitate anything from the Latinos btw.. It was the other way around.. But the latinos DO do there own thing and all.. I dont mind that ppl will not only embrace their own latino/white/ whatever culture but also embrace the black culture, thats fine.. But it gets annoying when they try to Think as if they made or started out the things in the Black culture..
@CoolAfroNinja Mexico has 1% blacks. look it up. yes Caribbeans are more black and so are some southern American countries. but yet they still dont even call them selves"black". even though they are more black then American blacks who have White ancestry. thats why Latin blacks are always dark. i grew up opposite of black culture and i dont listen to black rap in less its underground or in a club. were im from blacks like to use words like "wey" and "loco" they think there Latin.
@MrPa1310 Um Thers alot of Black Latin ppl populating all way from the Caribbean down to South America.. Not so much Blacks in Mexico tho.. N the clothes thing, naw Black fashion is way diff than European fashion.. N Black culture is real.. Theres African culture, And African American culture aka Black culture.. Black fashion is diff from White fashion.. Everyone talks their own way, east indians, Asian, Blacks, Europeans, Latinos.. But alot of Latinos try to talk with BlackEnglish accents..
@CoolAfroNinja your right American music would suck with out blacks but im Mexican. in Mexico we got our own cultural music that we dance to and party to till 5 in the morning. our own traditions our own food and also our spanish the accent is ghetto compare to Caribbeans or Spaniards. go to Spain with a Mexican accent they look at you like your drunk. thats because our language is mixed with some Aztec slang. we used words like "carnal" brother, "negro" nigga or black. we used them-->
@CoolAfroNinja we used them words way before blacks started calling each other bortha or nigga. i hate how you think you started everything. swag slang style. check this right here. Mexicans created FROM scratch no help. Cowboys. the cowboy culture came from old mexico Texas. that was the "swag" in that era. and whites act like they started it Ha they wish. Also think about red necks they switched there grammers too. you did not start that shit. Afrocentrics claim the olmecs(mexicans ancestors)
@MrPa1310 Latinos didnt use those words before us.. Y would any latino person be saying nigga before Blacks did, lol that just doesnt make any sence... N Cowboys im pretty sure were created by white ppl.. N that whole Cowboy thing being the ''swag'' of that era is wrong.. U mean swag of that geographic Location, being texas... N It was actually Whites who were Cow Boys.. N the Native Americans were also in that mix but were diff from typical ''cowboys''
@CoolAfroNinja yes we called black people in Mexico negros in spanish in english guess what it means? nigga mainly nigger. but we used in a friendly way. we call each other carnal since during the colonization of Americas. guess what carnal means?? brother. even gang bangers use it as a slang. LOL whites created cowboys? see now i see why you think that. pleas please look up the history of cowboys bro. WESTSIDE was all Mexico remember? when were cowboys out? 1700s. till this day Mexicans wear->
@CoolAfroNinja till this day an average Mexican only wears cowboy hats and cowboy boots why do you think? we inherited that thats our shit white people jacked THAT from us bro. and cowboys and Indians uhh Mexicans are part Indian too. the old wild wild West is Mexico always will be Mexico. Cortez who conquered the Aztec empire he moved up north and went to war for turf. you need guns and intimidation to battle. also horses came here FIRST from Spaniards. see thats our culture. not whits OK
@MrPa1310 Fact is there is no American music without Black music. Blues, gospel, jazz, soul, r&b, R&R, rap, ragtime, funk all created by Black people. Just about every popular dance comes from Black community - cakewalk, Charleston, lindy hop, swing, every dance from 60s & 70s straight to hip hop dance. The same dynamic in Caribbean and Latin American countries - where there are Black people they created most of the music and dance. I dont mind ppl these days embracing Black culture tho..
U fuckers r stupid. Latinos come from europe. Blacks r not latin. That right there shows how dumb blacks r. And to say a few whites r latin????? Shut up black people. You are not latin.
@JRiddick16 graffiti has no african in it. in any level it was created here in th bx by ricans and is in no relation to african art . please post the source that mislead you because i love laughing., brazilian dances were native to idiginous brazillians that existed there before an african stepped foot on this side of the world. please improve you sources.
AGAIN LET ME BE CLEAR WHEN I SAY AFRICAN AMERICANS I MEAN ALL PEOPLE FROM AFRICAN DESCENT. YOU WRONGLY ASSUMED THAT I WAS DENYING LATINOS. See the problem i have is that when it comes to AA culture the term latino all of a sudden disappears and they become AFRICAN but when talking about other issues the term latino becomes a separate entity. As just for the record i am a native of nyc and from my experience most latinos don;t refer to themselves as AFRICAN OR BLK.
@JRiddick16 latino is a side term. there is a term called afro latinos in our demographics if you havent noticed. latinos are not only just black and thats why we are different in a way. were mixed with natives of america and some euros but very little and a vast majority of us are black.
@nycharlem exactly the term latino is just a term. i could really respect if they were using the tern in a cultural capacity but instead they try to identify in terms as a race which it is NOT A term to hide self hatred of being a AFRICAN if you ask me. Also i could care less about graffiti aspect of hip hop. I mean come on who still tags the trains here in nyc?? As for your claim on brazilian break dancing please send me the source so i could show it to my black brazilian professor at school.
@JRiddick16 ok you want sources??? you know that the term google means a one digit number with millions of zeros that follow right?. search kapuera and its relation to breakdancing because the amount of results is going to be "google" lol. can you ask if this proffessor can give another definition of google since hes an itelligent source that you rely on. then search the term native wich always follows the style that is kapuera in relation to brazil. native means born in the land. a short def.
@nycharlem trust me i don't have to use my professor as intelligent source because i'm simply stating facts. i'm going to just forward him the information because like i said laughing is healthy.
@JRiddick16 by all means do so ,and you may laugh at the truth because if you can sleep at night due to something you refuse to believe whats so bad about that right? i dont want you to feel bad if thats what you think lol.
by the way its actually spelled Capoeira , youll probably state that it was carried out by black latinos that were actually related to african slaves wich is true but the styles of martial arts all came from an already established fighting style wich the natives are credited for. aside from this being recognized as brazilian becauses of its origin remind me why is it african art when your proffessor tells you.lol
@nycharlem Compared to some of the self hating latinos i won't any sleep. See compared to some latinos i'm proud to be an AFRICAN/AA in which i don't need to use a term for racial reasons to cover up my AFRICAN roots because i let family and society condition me. At the end of the day i don't laugh at the truth i embrace it. I know who i am as well as the historical facts when talking about my culture(ARICAN). As sad as it is i can't say the same for the latinos that i ve encountered.
@nycharlem "Ag'ya Danmye Ladja Compilation" video from 1936 depicts Blacks in Martinque demonstrating a capoeira or African martial arts. It did not come from Native people. You can still find these forms in present day Africa. Krumping, juke, jit, footwork are a modern continuation of martial arts in dance form.
from what ive seen you type you slowly included latinos because of what i pointed out. wow. before was just black and the so called "others" that came later were asians whites and latino . wow lol
Also when i'm making reference to other groups who have contributed to hip hop i 'm not talking about it in a historical sense but more in a modern day era. Regardless if its eminem,beaste boys or jin its still a contribution at the end of the day, not to mention i don't think these ppl are trying to prove to AA'S that they were part of the creation process.
@JRiddick16 yes i never failed to realize that. but latinos were there before the music idustry took over hiphop. latinos helped create hip hop that is the meaning of this argunment. your the one that evades this to the fullest extente of your ignoring ability. latinos werent present contributers they helped shape and mold several of hip hops elements from the music itself to the breakdancing wich is mainly brazilian styles (a latin origin) and graffiti specifically wildstyle.
Also i never denied that latinos were not AFRICAN or blk. From the beginning i ve stated that hip hop was an african art whether latinos want to be included as AFRICAN or whether they want to separate themselves due to being brainwashed and ignorant. I also stated that this form of music was created through oppression and discrimination against blk ppl in which you agreed with statement about the decay and poverty in the bx.
@JRiddick16 yes i did agree on that but before i said anything about events in the bx you were the one that said it was stictly african americans and forgot to mention latinos. and like i said you put latinos in the same level as asian and whites to hip hop wich is why i believe your either mislead or not from nyc altogeather. asians and whites did come later on but latinos have been contributing to hip hops creation since the movement of this culture began.
its the old people brainwashed not the young b boys,graffiti artist and djs? Really?? GTFO. Lets not act like every latino is running around calling themself a AFRICAN. If i got credited a dollar for every latino especially here on the east who denied their african roots when asked if they were blk or african then i would be part of the 1 percent who owns the wealth in this country. CONT
@JRiddick16 you making an acusation without concrete proof. thats all. there are some but not all latinos that play the roll yyou describe but from what i see i REAL LIFE living working and breathing what is the bronx your claim is 2 points away from being a fable.
MY GOD I NEVER DENIED THE FACT THAT LATINOS WERE CONTRIBUTORS. IF YOU WANT TO GET TECHNICAL WERE ONE IN THE SAME. LATINO IS NOT A RACE BUT MORE SO A CULTURE. SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING????????
@JRiddick16 you ask what am i saying???. have you looked at the title of this video or do you ever read signs??? do you eaven take the time to read wat you write??? you keep putting the addition of asians and whites to be in the same level of latino contributers wich is why i keep reminding you that your rong.
Ok we all know that you don't need to be the sole innovator of letters to be able to write or print a story but again their would be no such thing as a book or an article if we didn't have words. For christ sake do really think the NEW YORK TIMES would be one of the successful newspapers if it wasnt for letters or words LOL. And for the 5th time i never denied the contributions to hip hop by other ethic groups especially latinos. im just simply said that hip hop is an african art cont
@JRiddick16 no because my story wouldnt be british art just because i use british words LMFAO!!!!. FAILING TO COMPREHEND BOTH WRITTEN EXAMPLES AND SENARIOS SHOWS THAT YOU DONT TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF AN EXAMPLE. i used the letters and words example for you in order for you to realize that words and letters are as much a tool to a story as african instruments are to hip hop. but it seems i have to write it more simple for you to get it.
this might come to a bit of a shock to everyone but latin america includes all countries below usa.yes eaven haiti and jamaica. so on top of that what else can you say. funny you should mention krs one because he knows of the puerto rican influenses in hip hop so does african bambata they never denied this so what are you saying??.
your probably not from new york i think your some guy in a country state that idolizes hip hop wich is a conspiring reason why nyc doesnt like the involvement of others to our cities culture. the main choice of music in the bronx during the gang days was salsa and you can hear salsa precussion syncronized in with most early hip hop instrumentals. in the pioneer stage of hip hop many latin styles have been used.your ignorance is the reason why you shouldnt speak on another cities culture.
in the article you also fail to realize the relevance of the community. what kind of community is it??? the article says latino and black wich is 100 pecent without a doubt true.the south bronx has been and to this day still is more than half hispanic so to say it started in the presense of both people is a solid fact that your gonna have to deal with. bronx gangs ended their violence through hip hop and if you do your research the gang population was mainly puerto rican and dominican.
@nycharlem You said bronx gangs ended their violence through hip hop? Even with that being true it doesn't mean the violence through gang affiliation started at tthe birth/creation of hip hop. Hip Hop is an AFRICAN art and was created through oppression and discrimination of AFRICAN people. While i do acknowledge latinos/hispanics contributions to hip hop lets not forget at the end of the day this thing that we call HIP HOP is was created from an AFRICAN ART.
@JRiddick16 hip hop IS NOT AND I REPEAT IS NOT STRiCTKlY ABOUT AFRICAN OPRESSION.that never was the spark of its creation. HIP HOP WAS created and spread out of the need for a positive factor in a decaying bronx community in wich latinos and blacks both fell victim to poverty and governmental corruption that made the area what it was. hip hop was an alternative to drug based buissness and violence that plauged the area. it is an AMERICAN ART FORM BUILT ON AMERICAN ISSUES
@nycharlem TO SAY THAT IT IS ONLY AFRICAN IS IGNORANT AND DISRESPECTFULL. all originators of hip hop and the ppl who have been in the bronx through its creation acknowledge this while outsiders invent their own history based on a biased beliefs . non the less african americans who search irrelavant information .like that video of the man dancing wich doesnt prove the style is theirs. its brazillian wich counts as latino. the genre of hip hop itself started with latin precussion.
@nycharlem First of all when I say that hip hop is an African art I'm making a historical reference. I'm referring to the beats,drums,dance rhythm etc all these things derived and were influenced by African culture. It's not to say that the music we call hip hop today wasn't born here in nyc. I'm just saying that withou t those components there would be hip hop. Cont.
@JRiddick16 but you extracted all the salsa influences.you ignored the fact that the reason why the original hip hop beats included salsa precussion. why is that??? because latinos were the majority and one of the main audiences so its not in the same level as the invovement of other races. wich is what you keep saying. realize that the south bronx is bllack and latin with no asians and whites. maybe one or two but not a big deal. and you cannot explain to me why african beats are related .
@nycharlem I made reference to KRS ONE because he was quoted as saying that hip hop was created through oppression and injustice. AGAIN i never denied the contribution to hip hop from latinos and other ethnic groups. As i've stated before hip hop is an african art form, and your right most dominicans and puerto ricans are confused AAs because most of them are in denial and are too ignorant to realize that they themselves are AFRICAN. LMAO.
@JRiddick16 so what? i never denied the factor of opression. all i said was that latinos and blacks were both the victims and that was the spark of the genre so why dont you comprehend are you trying to confuse me? YES SOME LATINOS ARE HESITANT TO STATE THEY ARE BLACK. THOSE ARE LATIN PARENTS BORN OUTSIDE THE US. my father is my source. but you still evaid the situation that latinos are the second main contributers and its not the same as giving asians and whites credit. they werent in the bx.
@JRiddick16 i have to give it to you though you finally came to a relization that hispanics in the bx are one of the main ppl of hip hop seperate from asians AND OTHERS because you stated that pr's and dr's are AA'S. APPLAUSE TO YOU because the argument was about why HIP HOP WAS STARTED WITH BOTH BLACK AND BLACK LATINOS ALONG WITH OTHER LATINOS. I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR ADMITTING THIS FINALLY.. re read what you wrote you implied that my point is true.
@nycharlem secondly as I've stated before I do acknowledge the contributions to hip hop by other ethic groups plus the similarities of injustice,oppression and discrimination,but to say that this wasn't one of the vital if not main component to the birth of hip hop is down right just disrespectful. You even stated that the bx was decaying in which blks & Latinos fell victim to poverty and governmental corruption. Not to mention at that time no group was being targeted and deliberately attack
no you faile to realize that latinos are the second MAJOR CONTRIBUTERS. to you latinos are a side dish just like white and asians but you didnt do your research on the earliest hip hop djays and early hip hop instrumentals. since its CREATION latinos have been involved cant you understand that?? latinos were in this culture since its creation and asians and other ethnicities just picked up on it thats the way it is. you still ignore that by typing that latinos and asians are credited the same.
@nycharlem As for salsa being a precussion, again this is another component that derived and was influenced from Africa. Look it up. You make it seem like latinos themselves created salsa.
@JRiddick16 your points are easily proven rong because there is a sighn of ignorance in every one. SO SALSA IS ALSO AFRICAN ART RIGHT??? your talking about tools used not combination of what makes the definition of the genre . because just like i didnt invent vowels and letters i can still invent my story by using resources that i have. your point would only make the credit of authors diminished because they didnt invent the alphabet of the dicktionary.
@nycharlem which includes all ppl of african descent even the ones(PR'S&Dominicans) who are too BRAINWASHED and IGNORANT to realize that they themselves are descendents of AFRICA. Being a native of nyc i always found it funny how other groups latch on to the creations of AA'S but then have such a distaste for them. In that regard IGNORANCE IS DEF BLISS.
@dazzling5909 u can blame whites for that...they beat the african roots out of us back in the slavery days :/
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paulypaulification 2 weeks ago
BLACKS AND LATINO'S ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME PEOPLE, I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM IN THE HIP HOP CULTURE, BUT WHITES AND ASIANS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM THO.
EStroz585 2 weeks ago
@EStroz585 Yea,but the white man created the first music using the english language,the rhyming of the english language,and the rhyming of english language and hip hop is only a direct descendent to white folk music,country and all the stuff whites were doing. Don't be suprised in 20 years if hip hop isn't dominated by white dudes,lol,once they get over being called wiggers and the world excepts it. Go ahead and laugh. The roots of black music is WHITE. You think about that!
paulypaulification 2 weeks ago
@paulypaulification Proof or you're just talking out of your ass. White people taking over hip hop is like saying black people will take over hockey. There's a few in the league but very doubtful it will happen. 20 years years? You're a bitch for even thinking that trying to be funny. The roots of black music is not white. You are flat out lying now. Before white people even met black people africans we're singing and dancing. Stop with the lying.
WillGotti 16 hours ago
@WillGotti You silly rabit,all cultures sing and dance but black Africans were not singing in the English language untill a white man showed them how. You are a complete idiot to think different. Blacks only contributed to the art of using English language in music. This art form is European,fool. It sure the fuck did not come from Africa!! No,don't be naive and go fuck yourself while I beat my black sex slaves in the basement. I will be showing them your silly comments
paulypaulification 16 hours ago
@paulypaulification How do you know that they weren't doing it in English when they came to America. I understood what you said but I didn't acknowledge English because it's stupid to get so specific and not have proof. Stay in your la la land and be stupid talking nonsense.
WillGotti 15 hours ago
@WillGotti No proof is needed,the poetry and singing of English language is European. Also,to say "STEAL" in your title is "RACIST". White people don't go around saying you stole music using English language. Did you know that African Americans were singing English folk music,country,and DRINKING MUSIC before blues existed? Oh yes,you believe what you want.
paulypaulification 15 hours ago
I am from the Bronx, NYC and Hip Hop was created in the Bronx by English speaking & Spanish speaking(Latino) people of "African Descent". That would be New York City Africans-Americans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans. Latino is not a race it is a a name give because of the Language Latino. Many Latinos are of African Descent. There are more people called Latino of African descent in S. America & Caribean than English speaking American of African Descent.
kaleidescopeExp 3 weeks ago
@kaleidescopeExp FINALLY A VOICE OF REASON! I'M FROM THE BRONX AS WELL HOMIE, & PRETTY MUCH SEEN HIP HOP BEING CREATED RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FACE! NOW I DIG MOST OF THE POINTS THAT DUDE WAS MAKING, BUT THE SEPARATION OF COLOR FROM NATIONALITY IS WHERE DUDE LOOSES ME! & THE TITLE, PRETTY MUCH SHOWS, THAT HE IS A VICTOM OF 1 OF HIS OWN STATEMENT, WHICH WAS ADOPTING FROM THE CULTURE OF HIS SURROUNDING! WHICH IS NO WAY IN HELL, WHERE WE COME FROM! DUDE NEEDS 2 DO MORE HOMEWORK!
IMAHUMANBEING100 2 weeks ago 2
@IMAHUMANBEING100 BX all day!!!
kaleidescopeExp 2 weeks ago
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paulypaulification 4 weeks ago
@paulypaulification REAL TALK! IT'S ALREADY IN FULL EFFECT! IT'S REFERED 2 AS CORRECTIONAL FACILITIE'S! RAGANOMICS, 3 STRIKS! SO EVEN THE VICTOMS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE, GET 25 TO LIFE FOR 15 BUCKS OF WHITE, 5 EACH TIME! & WHAT'S CRAZY IS, WERE WAY PASS RACE! & OF THESE WHITE FOLKS, ON HERE STILL STUCK ON THE RACE THING! WEATHER THEY WANNA BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AIN'T PART OF THE IMPERIALIST END GAME! WERE ALREADY STRIP 2 THE BONE! & ADAPTED 2 STRUGGLE! ITS THE PATRIOTIC HARD WORKING
IMAHUMANBEING100 2 weeks ago
@IMAHUMANBEING100 WHITE MANS TURN! THEY THE 1'S LOOSING THEY'RE JOBS & HOME'S NOW! JUST TRYING 2 GIVE THE HEADS UP! JUST LOOK AT OCCUPY WALL STREET! THEY WERE MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE, WHO ARE AWARE THAT THE FREE PASS, 4 THE COLOR OF THEY'RE SKIN, HAS EXPIRED!!!
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paulypaulification 4 weeks ago
so what your not the creator of anything else and you use it..
aztec714ok 1 month ago
@aztec714ok They don't care. They simply don't care. Damn dude, I'm getting so tired of them to be honest with you. You would think that us white people were this out of control ego wise. They are trying to break the rest of our spirits at the moment on Youtube. If it isn't Music, It's Black Hebrews, if it isn't that, it's them trying to take our culture from us. Fuck them. Who needs them!
mrohyoudidntknow 1 month ago
@mrohyoudidntknow All this music you call black is just as rooted in white music as black. I mean who invented the english language,poetry,rhyming of english language,european instruments,the format for all modern music,and the use of a guitar while singing sad songs in the english language? Who tought who to speak it,rhyme it,and sing it? It is no suprise Eminem did so well and Elvis is the king because he sold the most records! Nobody invented or stole anything.It is free! All races contribute
paulypaulification 3 weeks ago
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@mrohyoudidntknow All this music you call black is just as rooted in white music as black. I mean who invented the english language,poetry,rhyming of english language,european instruments,the format for all modern music,and the use of a guitar while singing sad songs in the english language? Who tought who to speak it,rhyme it,and sing it? It is no suprise Eminem did so well and Elvis is the king because he sold the most records! Nobody invented or stole anything.It is free! All races contribute
paulypaulification 3 weeks ago
They can have it as long as we keep everything else!
sourheartroasie 1 month ago
I did a video reply on this topic
Mropevargas 1 month ago
@Mropevargas Your video reply was trash!!!
breezwonder 1 month ago
@RealityIsAwesome2011 Wow! It's a shame to see so much wrong information in one paragraph.
Revolutionary36 1 month ago
Latinos fail...
souasazzz 2 months ago
Hey u fucks didnt invent shit. U did not creat those instruments. White people made movies so i guess u niggers can stop copying white people n quit makn low rated movies too. You steal everything n u never created anything. A proven fact
tonyramos12316 2 months ago
@tonyramos12316 u mad bro?
souasazzz 2 months ago
@tonyramos12316 lol stfu
dirtyplaya 1 week ago
What I don't understand is that when Blacks tend to borrow trends from other cultures, they don't see anything wrong with it. Yet, they are upset because other races opened their minds to give their music a chance. If it wasn't for RUN DMS and Aerosmith, rapp would have not be so popular today.
Fatjoey2 2 months ago
@Fatjoey2 rap was popular before run and aerosmith Lmao.
JRiddick16 2 months ago
@JRiddick16 oh rapp was popular before? so why was it only played on underground radio stations. Hell, MTV wouldn't even play any rapp videos prior to the mid-eighties. Thats why they made "Yo MTV Rapps", DUMMY! Where did you get your MISinformation from? Ask any fool that was born before 1975 that white kids didn't listen or want to listen to rapp. RUN DMC's Manager wanted to open up the market to white kids, and so the made " Walk this way". Don't you look stupid Lmao @ that.
Fatjoey2 2 months ago
@Fatjoey2 while it might be true that MTV wouldnt play rap videos prior to the eighties. However it is also true that wp make up 70% of the U.S population so anything that is introduced to them and they take a liking to it their going commercialize and make it popular. This is another reason why 70% of ppl who purchase rap music are wp not to mention that bp don't even purchase nearly as much as their white counter parts and it wouldnt make a difference even if they did.
JRiddick16 2 months ago
@JRiddick16 True WP do commercialize, BUT they have MONEY, MONEY MONEY for entertainment. It's nothing for them to spend $10-$15 dollars to be ammused for a while. Blacks and other minorities have to pick and choose what they can afford to be entertained by. Can't afford skiing, hunting, or other bullshit. Also, blacks are trapped in their own culture, they don't explore the worlds around them. WP have any culture in America, they lost touch with it, so they copy others.
Fatjoey2 2 months ago
@Fatjoey2 I must applaud you for stating the obvious which is wp have the money. So therefore they do sign the checks. This is one main reasons why ppl like me have been concerned with present state of HH because it has lost its substance ever since it was introduced to the guy with the suit and the tie. The same guy who had no knowledge but was just looking to make a dollar. This is not to say that all wp who are in the industry have this same mentality.
JRiddick16 2 months ago
@Fatjoey2 now if your looking for me to thank wp for making rap music popular for these then I guess I would just have to appease and pay homage to them Lmao.
JRiddick16 2 months ago
@JRiddick16 Appease and pay homage? Are you little wayne, or Jay z? You swear wp are signing checks over to you. LMAO. Oh wait, maybe lil wayne and jay z give you a percentage b/c your black. Is that the case? You can't be insinuating that blacks are superior, or make superior music,I know you want to hear people say this, but if that were true then Africa would be a Super World Power. They have all the resourses plus more than other countries.
Fatjoey2 2 months ago
@Fatjoey2 First of all your way way off base. I never once insinuated how blacks are superior or make superior music for that matter. You mentioned that if rap would not be popular if had not been exposed to non black pl. I stated that while at may be true its also true that given the population size of wp if they take interest anything their bound to make it trendy or popular for that reason. Again if this is something that helps you sleep at night let me or the bc not make a sound. Lmao
JRiddick16 2 months ago
@JRiddick16 ok, ok, I agree with you on these points, but the you killed the "lmaos" forced laughter is never becoming.
Fatjoey2 2 months ago
@Fatjoey2 naw i think it would still be popular today
dirtyplaya 1 month ago
@dirtyplaya Well.explain why it existed for thousands of years and never made main stream until the whiteman put his spin on it. That's like saying that all culture music will be as popular as hip hop someday. If this is the case then, their is nothing special about hip hop in the first place.
Fatjoey2 1 month ago
@Fatjoey2 I just answered my own question, b/cuzz nursey rhymes were considered modern music at one time. You are right, it would of become popular anyways. Looks like whites were also rappers.
Fatjoey2 1 month ago
@Fatjoey2 You dumb ass,all the music you call black is just as white. Who tought blackie the english language,the poetry of,and how to play european instruments? Go ask a real African tribesman if this music is all black and maybe he will do a little black for you that is not influanced by white. You think about that
paulypaulification 3 weeks ago
@paulypaulification its black american music...yes the language is yours but the style is all us, you think if blacks werent in america that white people could of created this genre?, i dont think so , hip-hop is was made for the people in poverty till u whites of the corporate world took a hold of it and made a profit of it smh
dirtyplaya 1 week ago
peace love unity and having fun...
vicmonsta 3 months ago
Blacks created Hip hop Ok not latinos they gave later contributions. of course black Music would suck with out my instruments. or without OUR consent to breath. or with out OUR influences. with out freedom of expression. with out OUR braveness and intelligence to ship black people like boxes to Americas. i guess it was all worth it lol. slaves... they always complain
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 You're funny, little spider monkey!
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally no im not funny. who's the monkey? lol
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 you spidy!
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally lol you niggity. now your making me insult you girl not cool
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 That is because you have exhausted your sixth grade vocabulary and now must revert to your natural spider monkey, poo poo throwing ways. It's just you being you, I ain't made at ya!
luvureally 3 months ago
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MrPa1310 3 months ago
i think black people need to take some classes on cultural anthropology. lol @ stealing culture.. kill yourself.
AlizeCiz 3 months ago
Break dance, poppin lockin, electric boogaloo, moon walking, jerkin, krumping, jit, footwork all dances with African roots. Look up the video "19th Century hip hop. They are doing what is now known as break dance. Most of these dances were derived from African martial arts. The slave owners did not want them to practice it, so they disguised them as dance. Compare capoeira to the dancing of The Nicholas Brothers, Berry Brothers, Hellzapoppin crew, and you will see the similarities.
luvureally 3 months ago
Hip hop origins go back to West Africa. Cab Calloway rapped on 1932 "The Man From Harlem", Louis Jordan also incorporated raps into his music. The first truly rap recording might be Pigmeat Markhams 1969 "Here Come De Judge". The first participants at DJ Hercs parties were Black kids the Puerto Ricans joined later. The majority of the music sampled was soul, funk, some blues and jazz, all Black created music forms. Puerto Ricans made contributions to a Black created art form.
luvureally 3 months ago
LOL is this black kid crying cause he thinks were trying to steal hip hop from them. really? when we ALL know that California life style started with early chicanos where chicano culture was also imitated by blacks at the time who had no hip hop. while we had our own mexican American slang and style and our own art form vehicle(Lowrider) during the 30s 40s and 50s when blacks had soul music we had swag culture too. pachucos were fresh and G'd out with females all the time. underground culture
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310
Black people had their own style, and culture and "swagger" as well. Even before the 30's. So your message was not needed.
Lower riders have nothing to do with where hip hop culture originates from.
BantuNation 3 months ago 8
@BantuNation really well im sure if they did it was during the jazz swing era and Hip hop came from the street life experiences didn't it? well i no that Gangsta rap came from LA & was created with the help of Chicanos who Were there since native Americans. Eazy-E formed the group Brownside as a Chicano version of the rap group N.W.A. in the 90s bro. Latinos may not had an affect but Mexicans sure did in one genre. most Westcoast rap videos have pure Lowriders as their main screen shot backround
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Black people lived on segregated plantations for centuries with the exlusion of other races. Fact. Gangsta rap takes it roots from black struggles, and Funk music. Rap goes for back beyond the 90s or the 80s for that matter, and can be traced all the way back to africa from the African Griots Fact.
BantuNation 3 months ago 3
@BantuNation Rap came from hip hop(corporation) and Mexicans dont really do "hip hop" but mostly Rap. Where we were influenced a lot from and influenced with our old customs. we share Rap bro whether you like it not. Our rap is more cultural in a some way
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Rap does not come from Hip Hop. Hip Hop music comes from Africans, and its roots can easily be traced from African American culture which up to the 80s with heavily segregated, and in many cases still are.
The world can share music, but u can't share the history of who created the music. Classical music was created in European by Europeans. Beethoven was influenced by a Afro violinist,and even made music dedicated to him. The music is still European.
BantuNation 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 I think you are mixing some things up. Mexicans have contributed to Southern California or Chicano pop culture ie lowriding, etc. Hip-hop didn't originate as a part of a corporation. The corporate activity happened later. Our customs African(this includes African-American or Caribbean) spoken word are similar to Mexican culture. Here is another part of your problem, blacks have been rapping even in the jazz era ie Louis Jordan, Jocko, etc. We rapped in the streets also to sell fruit.
NYhistorian 3 months ago
@NYhistorian bro what? no nothing in Mexico has anything to do with black people trust me the only thing that yes blacks people once came to Mexico as slaves its proven most of us have about 5 % African look at George Lopez and Eva Longoria DNA test. manly in the south of Mexico like Veracruz were its mostly African. but they contributed nothing to Mexican culture. Mexico is all Mestizo. about 10% white. 1% is nothing. we had a black president way before obama also but he was mixed as well.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 "La Bamba" the most famous Mexican song, was created by the Blacks of Veracruz! It is an example of the son jarocha style created by Black Mexicans. Your second president, Vincente Guerrara was Black. Even your beloved corridos were originally the stories of slave uprisings. What about Mexican towns with names like Mocambo, Matamba, Mozomboa & Mandinga? During Mexican colonial period Africans outnumbered Spanish, so there is an African (forgotten) influence in Mexico.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureallythe second president was a mulatto GIRL lol black my ass look at damn picture that white looking Afro wannbe black. Yes i love black history in Mexico but it has to do with free from slavery. see unlike here in the U.S your DNA home blacks did not have a chance. My Spanish ppl were easy on nigwats they gave you your own independent town how nice is that?. lol. you forgot yanga a black name town so? La bamba created by blacks and Santa claws was a jew also did you know? lol
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Your short, yellow school bus attempt at wit and sarcasm does not erase the African influence in Mexico. Perhaps if the Africans had not been "absorbed" into the mestizo population, Mexico might have had a rich musical legacy equal to that of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Panama, etc., and you would not have to resort to "borrowing" music and dance from others - cumbia, rap, salsa, bachata, r&b, polka, rumba, ska etc.,
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally lol. Girl what are you talking about. im a send you a vid about black history in Mexico told by mulatto wannabe black professor Gates. its not BIG. every race etc has to bring something. only one part of Mexico has a music genre that is mixed with black "influences" its still not close to the Spanish/Indigenous sound. every music that involves a guitar no matter how played is nothing of black. the instruments are Spanish baby not English french but Spanish babe.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@luvureally lol salsa is Spanish Music that came from Spain babe it came from Spanish Flamingo. thats not even Mexican music. we dont do salsa. not even the dance. Dominicans see Spain as there mother land. Not Africa sad as hell. so they still there music. Mexico is known for its Music culture lady it is legacy. blacks are invisible in Mexico. see my woman dance appropriate for our fathers to see its respect ok. as soon as black woman were called bitches & hoes they started acting l
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Salsa from Spain?!!! LMAO! LOL! LMAO!
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally "Salsa from Spain?" no girl. its not from Spain the sound the dance the style is Spanish ok if blacks contributed to it than it would be African sound, African instruments, and African moves. Africans never brought there culture they only remembered it. girl your an African mutt so who knows what African style you had. its all fucked up. Salsa from Africa?!!! LMAO! LOL! LMAO!
MrPa1310 3 months ago
nothing "Spanish" sounding about salsa - a music that is basically Cuban (Black) created music. King of salsa, Tito Puente, said the music he played was CUBAN music. You throw wild, ridiculous claims, but provide no proof. I can give plenty examples of the similarity between African music and "Latin" music. Give me an example of Spanish music that has any resemblance to salsa, mambo, etc., Traditional Spanish music, not what they picked up from "Latin" America in the last 100 years are so.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally girl proof??? proof is in the country. its in the language. its in the blood. blacks love salsa chips too hahahahahahahaha i dip mine in hot salsa do you? girl this is my point. you cant create a music type in a different language. you contribute not create. blacks never created ANY latin music like we never created hip hop. we contributed do you understand what im saying gril??
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Beny More, Celia Cruz, Machito, Chano Pozo, Mario Bauzo, Perez Prado, Perez Prado and many others were BLACK Cubans (who did speak and perform in Spanish) that created Cuban music, which salsa was derived from. Your beloved "Spanish" music was an influence on this music, but it is the African part that gives it LIFE!.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally hahaha nice try babe.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 And the dance moves are definitely AFRICAN! Left to their own devices Spaniards do not move like that.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally dance moves are African?? i thought Africans did kicks and swings and back flips and front flips like chipms??? oh wait haha that is salsa moves right? lol fuck salsa your right i dont know much about it i do know that Spanish ppl created it blacks contributed. see the hypocrisy there? your claiming Spanish creations now. and you say that WE steal hip hop HA listen to your self girl.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Salsa is quite graceful and athletic when done properly, unlike the stiff, no rhythm polka bounces you call dance.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally rhythm?? i all ready told this. its only rhythm to you. you call flipping and kicking rhythm?? yea to chimps. look at selenas dance and music babe thats smooth calm rhythm
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 I guess that is why mexican spider monkeys all over youtube krumping, jerking, doing broken hip versions of punta, awkward salsa and bachata moves. Rhythm is life, since you have non that is why you steal the music and dance of others, trying to steal their life esse?
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally i guess thats why niggity giggities all over youtube try to steal and claim other peoples cultures and contributions to the world?? lol because your ppl have no human skills but being our slaves and entertaining us after a good long day lol. see i can go there to. civilization is LIFE water is LIFE. you cant clean your own water hahaha. see music dance thats nothing. like say. get in the kitchen bring me a beer give me a dirty black dance cause that wat you do
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 I guess your cherry picking is a skill. Silly little spider monkey over its head and cannot contribute to an intelligent conversation. I shall leave you in your natural habitat as you amuse yourself with your true loves - scatology and self pleasure. Good evening.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally lol actually i hate cherry pickers. i would call you that. hey lol how you no i pick cherries in the summer??. self pleasure? Ha. go get me a beer. none of that redneck shit get me African beer. oh there is no African beer? go get me some black food then. my evening ant over
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@luvureally why do you like Mexico culture so much? them Latin Blacks is not your bloodline no more. they dont even wanna be associated with Blacks. its because Latin culture is that great. sucks not to be part Spanish because than its not your true heritage. see thats why your beloved black ppl can not and will not admit there African. thats fucked up. its sad but its true. its like telling Me i ant Spanish. i would die. i would cry. who wants to be African? nothing Rich there. nada
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Getting back to original point of this video, as BantuNation said hip hop was created by Black people in USA. Others may have contributed to it, but were not part of creation. Everybody wants to claim ownership of every genre of music and dance created by Black people in the western hemisphere.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally damn it girl your difficult. i never said we created Hip hop hell no if we did that would suck. why? because then it ignores our true cultural Spanish Music that we love. we dont do that. you like soul jazz swing. tell who under age of 25 black who likes that? lol. im not talking about creation to me the title is offensive. Im sure it was NOT a mexican who writes the wiki. to say we try to steal? when blacks try to steal ppls cultures like Afcentrics. hypocritical il say
MrPa1310 3 months ago
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luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally is what I call them.
JRiddick16 3 months ago
@luvureally its a waste of time arguing with people like mrpa1310 who tries to belittle people bases on superiority complex when it comes to culture and race. My culture is better than yours. AA don't have a real history or culture. Blah blah blah. It's not to say that afrocentrics don't display the same behavior but people like mrpa have to put people down in order for him to feel better about himself regardless if their speaking of facts or opinions. Egotistic maniacs is what I
JRiddick16 3 months ago
@JRiddick16 You're right. Actually it is an inferiority complex based on fear and jealousy. They don't want to be Black but want to be like Blacks! Twisted indeed!
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally ugh!! and they never end. yea jealous of slaves. i all ready told you this. If we migrate to china were gonna kill there tracks there style. if we migrated to cuba were gonna kill there tracks kill there style. its called contributing like TRUE migrate citizens OK. dont be mad because we have our own thing. we do have our own sound of hip hop and and rap your just mad because you want us to be black. like the Asians and white ppl. and latinos on the east coast.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 So you admit to being a parasite incapable of creating any relevant music? ok, I understand.
luvureally 3 months ago
@luvureally why do you want to be Latina so bad? they have nothing to do with You. they dont wanna be you. but you wanna be them. blacks who say they are not black is ridiculous. what makes them say that?
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@JRiddick16 wow what you just said about me is sooo true thank you bro. please. me and luvureally have a certain relation. we go back and forth. she stated commenting on chicano videos and thats how we meet. she insulted ME & MY PEOPLE FIRST. im gonna back up my people. i actually do believe i am part of the worlds greatest cultures and countries. remember im American too this is MY country. descendent from Aztec queens and Spanish rulers. im blessed OK i hate Hate.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 i know its true but because people like you are insecure and weak minded. It wasnt you who created influences or so called freedom it was people who just looked like you(native Americans ancestors). This is the problem when taking about history people like you are basically taking credit for something that you weren't even a part. Society has conditioned people so much that they now display fear if their not a part of anything. Lol
JRiddick16 3 months ago
@JRiddick16 NO it wasn't ME thats were im wrong thank you for correcting me. it was MY ancestors. if you say im taking credit for something i was not a part of...DUH! everyone does it
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 DUH everyone does it. Really? I guess I should belittle and spread hate simply because everybody else does it. Lmao. See I learned at a very young age that racism is a taught behavior which only proves my point all your doing is creating hate and separation by focusing on what your ancestors did way before you or I was even thought of. It's funny how people are ignorant to wonder why there is so much hate and blood shed among people in society.
JRiddick16 3 months ago
@JRiddick16 whatever. im not denying that blacks created hip hopy by them selves luvureally hates chicanos and you dont know it. so im insulting her if not correcting her. you should see what she wrote the first time i read her comment. you know she is the reason why i see black Americans different now. no i see there true colors. so im gonna give them my point of views. a taste of my medicine
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Oh please. You're just expressing what you actually think of Black people. You needed no prompting from me or anyone else. In your typical mestizo "wannabewhitesobadyoucantasteit" fashion you conveniently neglect to mention all the vile, racist remarks your "cousins" post while claiming classic soul/r&b as "chicano" music.
luvureally 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 hmmm maybe if people were focusing on which group is superior and which one is inferior or who influenced and created hip.hop or salsa. Just maybe we could have peace and harmony in the world. A world where we are human beings first not black,African,Aztec or native americans.
JRiddick16 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 lol NO.. Latinos these days,, Not only latinos but pretty much everyone these days are ''coppying'' Black culture... But I dont think of it that way.. I take it as if they are embracing the black culture and that makes me happy to know that people love our culture.. Only the negative ppl think of it as stealing.. It becomes stealing once they try taking cred and thinkin as if they made it... Which many try to do..
CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
@CoolAfroNinja "copying black culture"?? hell no and besides i dont see black culture as a real culture because it has nothing to do with west African culture bro nothing. your culture manly came from us. the instruments are not your native tools. the language is not your real language ether. the western style cloths are more European too. yall act as if you invented everything from scratch yea right. when i see Latin blacks doing spanish music i see them as embracing our culture. im Mexican-->
MrPa1310 3 months ago
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CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 And no the Blacks did not imitate anything from the Latinos btw.. It was the other way around.. But the latinos DO do there own thing and all.. I dont mind that ppl will not only embrace their own latino/white/ whatever culture but also embrace the black culture, thats fine.. But it gets annoying when they try to Think as if they made or started out the things in the Black culture..
CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
@CoolAfroNinja Mexico has 1% blacks. look it up. yes Caribbeans are more black and so are some southern American countries. but yet they still dont even call them selves"black". even though they are more black then American blacks who have White ancestry. thats why Latin blacks are always dark. i grew up opposite of black culture and i dont listen to black rap in less its underground or in a club. were im from blacks like to use words like "wey" and "loco" they think there Latin.
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Um Thers alot of Black Latin ppl populating all way from the Caribbean down to South America.. Not so much Blacks in Mexico tho.. N the clothes thing, naw Black fashion is way diff than European fashion.. N Black culture is real.. Theres African culture, And African American culture aka Black culture.. Black fashion is diff from White fashion.. Everyone talks their own way, east indians, Asian, Blacks, Europeans, Latinos.. But alot of Latinos try to talk with BlackEnglish accents..
CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
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CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
@CoolAfroNinja your right American music would suck with out blacks but im Mexican. in Mexico we got our own cultural music that we dance to and party to till 5 in the morning. our own traditions our own food and also our spanish the accent is ghetto compare to Caribbeans or Spaniards. go to Spain with a Mexican accent they look at you like your drunk. thats because our language is mixed with some Aztec slang. we used words like "carnal" brother, "negro" nigga or black. we used them-->
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@CoolAfroNinja we used them words way before blacks started calling each other bortha or nigga. i hate how you think you started everything. swag slang style. check this right here. Mexicans created FROM scratch no help. Cowboys. the cowboy culture came from old mexico Texas. that was the "swag" in that era. and whites act like they started it Ha they wish. Also think about red necks they switched there grammers too. you did not start that shit. Afrocentrics claim the olmecs(mexicans ancestors)
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@MrPa1310 Latinos didnt use those words before us.. Y would any latino person be saying nigga before Blacks did, lol that just doesnt make any sence... N Cowboys im pretty sure were created by white ppl.. N that whole Cowboy thing being the ''swag'' of that era is wrong.. U mean swag of that geographic Location, being texas... N It was actually Whites who were Cow Boys.. N the Native Americans were also in that mix but were diff from typical ''cowboys''
CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
@CoolAfroNinja yes we called black people in Mexico negros in spanish in english guess what it means? nigga mainly nigger. but we used in a friendly way. we call each other carnal since during the colonization of Americas. guess what carnal means?? brother. even gang bangers use it as a slang. LOL whites created cowboys? see now i see why you think that. pleas please look up the history of cowboys bro. WESTSIDE was all Mexico remember? when were cowboys out? 1700s. till this day Mexicans wear->
MrPa1310 3 months ago
@CoolAfroNinja till this day an average Mexican only wears cowboy hats and cowboy boots why do you think? we inherited that thats our shit white people jacked THAT from us bro. and cowboys and Indians uhh Mexicans are part Indian too. the old wild wild West is Mexico always will be Mexico. Cortez who conquered the Aztec empire he moved up north and went to war for turf. you need guns and intimidation to battle. also horses came here FIRST from Spaniards. see thats our culture. not whits OK
MrPa1310 3 months ago
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@MrPa1310 Fact is there is no American music without Black music. Blues, gospel, jazz, soul, r&b, R&R, rap, ragtime, funk all created by Black people. Just about every popular dance comes from Black community - cakewalk, Charleston, lindy hop, swing, every dance from 60s & 70s straight to hip hop dance. The same dynamic in Caribbean and Latin American countries - where there are Black people they created most of the music and dance. I dont mind ppl these days embracing Black culture tho..
CoolAfroNinja 3 months ago
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Yet Everybody Wantz 2 B Down!!! Black Folk Keep Yo Shit 2 Yourself and leave these Fleas Alone!!!
nicoleizhername 3 months ago
Yet Everybody Wantz 2 B Down!!! Black Folk Keep Yo Shit 2 Yourself and leave these Flees Alone!!!
nicoleizhername 3 months ago
U fuckers r stupid. Latinos come from europe. Blacks r not latin. That right there shows how dumb blacks r. And to say a few whites r latin????? Shut up black people. You are not latin.
tonyramos12316 4 months ago
yet every hip-hop/rap music video in general has lowriders...
WERDOME 4 months ago
you keep making reference to the graffiti and brazilian break dancing in which i ve stated that this is all african art.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 graffiti has no african in it. in any level it was created here in th bx by ricans and is in no relation to african art . please post the source that mislead you because i love laughing., brazilian dances were native to idiginous brazillians that existed there before an african stepped foot on this side of the world. please improve you sources.
nycharlem 4 months ago
AGAIN LET ME BE CLEAR WHEN I SAY AFRICAN AMERICANS I MEAN ALL PEOPLE FROM AFRICAN DESCENT. YOU WRONGLY ASSUMED THAT I WAS DENYING LATINOS. See the problem i have is that when it comes to AA culture the term latino all of a sudden disappears and they become AFRICAN but when talking about other issues the term latino becomes a separate entity. As just for the record i am a native of nyc and from my experience most latinos don;t refer to themselves as AFRICAN OR BLK.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 so you disagree with this videos topic also??
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem i disagree with latinos who deny the african heritage and use the term latino as a race to try to separate themselves from AA'S.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 latino is a side term. there is a term called afro latinos in our demographics if you havent noticed. latinos are not only just black and thats why we are different in a way. were mixed with natives of america and some euros but very little and a vast majority of us are black.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem exactly the term latino is just a term. i could really respect if they were using the tern in a cultural capacity but instead they try to identify in terms as a race which it is NOT A term to hide self hatred of being a AFRICAN if you ask me. Also i could care less about graffiti aspect of hip hop. I mean come on who still tags the trains here in nyc?? As for your claim on brazilian break dancing please send me the source so i could show it to my black brazilian professor at school.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 ok you want sources??? you know that the term google means a one digit number with millions of zeros that follow right?. search kapuera and its relation to breakdancing because the amount of results is going to be "google" lol. can you ask if this proffessor can give another definition of google since hes an itelligent source that you rely on. then search the term native wich always follows the style that is kapuera in relation to brazil. native means born in the land. a short def.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem trust me i don't have to use my professor as intelligent source because i'm simply stating facts. i'm going to just forward him the information because like i said laughing is healthy.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 by all means do so ,and you may laugh at the truth because if you can sleep at night due to something you refuse to believe whats so bad about that right? i dont want you to feel bad if thats what you think lol.
nycharlem 4 months ago
by the way its actually spelled Capoeira , youll probably state that it was carried out by black latinos that were actually related to african slaves wich is true but the styles of martial arts all came from an already established fighting style wich the natives are credited for. aside from this being recognized as brazilian becauses of its origin remind me why is it african art when your proffessor tells you.lol
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem Compared to some of the self hating latinos i won't any sleep. See compared to some latinos i'm proud to be an AFRICAN/AA in which i don't need to use a term for racial reasons to cover up my AFRICAN roots because i let family and society condition me. At the end of the day i don't laugh at the truth i embrace it. I know who i am as well as the historical facts when talking about my culture(ARICAN). As sad as it is i can't say the same for the latinos that i ve encountered.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@nycharlem "Ag'ya Danmye Ladja Compilation" video from 1936 depicts Blacks in Martinque demonstrating a capoeira or African martial arts. It did not come from Native people. You can still find these forms in present day Africa. Krumping, juke, jit, footwork are a modern continuation of martial arts in dance form.
luvureally 3 months ago
@nycharlem He and i also like to laugh. its healthy lol
JRiddick16 4 months ago
from what ive seen you type you slowly included latinos because of what i pointed out. wow. before was just black and the so called "others" that came later were asians whites and latino . wow lol
nycharlem 4 months ago
Also when i'm making reference to other groups who have contributed to hip hop i 'm not talking about it in a historical sense but more in a modern day era. Regardless if its eminem,beaste boys or jin its still a contribution at the end of the day, not to mention i don't think these ppl are trying to prove to AA'S that they were part of the creation process.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 yes i never failed to realize that. but latinos were there before the music idustry took over hiphop. latinos helped create hip hop that is the meaning of this argunment. your the one that evades this to the fullest extente of your ignoring ability. latinos werent present contributers they helped shape and mold several of hip hops elements from the music itself to the breakdancing wich is mainly brazilian styles (a latin origin) and graffiti specifically wildstyle.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 your making latin contribution mean that its just that they want to do it too. as if they were asian or white
nycharlem 4 months ago
Also i never denied that latinos were not AFRICAN or blk. From the beginning i ve stated that hip hop was an african art whether latinos want to be included as AFRICAN or whether they want to separate themselves due to being brainwashed and ignorant. I also stated that this form of music was created through oppression and discrimination against blk ppl in which you agreed with statement about the decay and poverty in the bx.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 yes i did agree on that but before i said anything about events in the bx you were the one that said it was stictly african americans and forgot to mention latinos. and like i said you put latinos in the same level as asian and whites to hip hop wich is why i believe your either mislead or not from nyc altogeather. asians and whites did come later on but latinos have been contributing to hip hops creation since the movement of this culture began.
nycharlem 4 months ago
its the old people brainwashed not the young b boys,graffiti artist and djs? Really?? GTFO. Lets not act like every latino is running around calling themself a AFRICAN. If i got credited a dollar for every latino especially here on the east who denied their african roots when asked if they were blk or african then i would be part of the 1 percent who owns the wealth in this country. CONT
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 you making an acusation without concrete proof. thats all. there are some but not all latinos that play the roll yyou describe but from what i see i REAL LIFE living working and breathing what is the bronx your claim is 2 points away from being a fable.
nycharlem 4 months ago
MY GOD I NEVER DENIED THE FACT THAT LATINOS WERE CONTRIBUTORS. IF YOU WANT TO GET TECHNICAL WERE ONE IN THE SAME. LATINO IS NOT A RACE BUT MORE SO A CULTURE. SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING????????
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 you ask what am i saying???. have you looked at the title of this video or do you ever read signs??? do you eaven take the time to read wat you write??? you keep putting the addition of asians and whites to be in the same level of latino contributers wich is why i keep reminding you that your rong.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 you keep changing the direction of your point while mine remains the same. now you finally admit that latinos arent stealing from blacks.
nycharlem 4 months ago
Ok we all know that you don't need to be the sole innovator of letters to be able to write or print a story but again their would be no such thing as a book or an article if we didn't have words. For christ sake do really think the NEW YORK TIMES would be one of the successful newspapers if it wasnt for letters or words LOL. And for the 5th time i never denied the contributions to hip hop by other ethic groups especially latinos. im just simply said that hip hop is an african art cont
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 no because my story wouldnt be british art just because i use british words LMFAO!!!!. FAILING TO COMPREHEND BOTH WRITTEN EXAMPLES AND SENARIOS SHOWS THAT YOU DONT TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF AN EXAMPLE. i used the letters and words example for you in order for you to realize that words and letters are as much a tool to a story as african instruments are to hip hop. but it seems i have to write it more simple for you to get it.
nycharlem 4 months ago
this might come to a bit of a shock to everyone but latin america includes all countries below usa.yes eaven haiti and jamaica. so on top of that what else can you say. funny you should mention krs one because he knows of the puerto rican influenses in hip hop so does african bambata they never denied this so what are you saying??.
nycharlem 4 months ago
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nycharlem 4 months ago
dont take it as a shot online because i dont inted to offend but you need to analuyze everything before you speak,
nycharlem 4 months ago
your probably not from new york i think your some guy in a country state that idolizes hip hop wich is a conspiring reason why nyc doesnt like the involvement of others to our cities culture. the main choice of music in the bronx during the gang days was salsa and you can hear salsa precussion syncronized in with most early hip hop instrumentals. in the pioneer stage of hip hop many latin styles have been used.your ignorance is the reason why you shouldnt speak on another cities culture.
nycharlem 4 months ago
in the article you also fail to realize the relevance of the community. what kind of community is it??? the article says latino and black wich is 100 pecent without a doubt true.the south bronx has been and to this day still is more than half hispanic so to say it started in the presense of both people is a solid fact that your gonna have to deal with. bronx gangs ended their violence through hip hop and if you do your research the gang population was mainly puerto rican and dominican.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem You said bronx gangs ended their violence through hip hop? Even with that being true it doesn't mean the violence through gang affiliation started at tthe birth/creation of hip hop. Hip Hop is an AFRICAN art and was created through oppression and discrimination of AFRICAN people. While i do acknowledge latinos/hispanics contributions to hip hop lets not forget at the end of the day this thing that we call HIP HOP is was created from an AFRICAN ART.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 hip hop IS NOT AND I REPEAT IS NOT STRiCTKlY ABOUT AFRICAN OPRESSION.that never was the spark of its creation. HIP HOP WAS created and spread out of the need for a positive factor in a decaying bronx community in wich latinos and blacks both fell victim to poverty and governmental corruption that made the area what it was. hip hop was an alternative to drug based buissness and violence that plauged the area. it is an AMERICAN ART FORM BUILT ON AMERICAN ISSUES
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem TO SAY THAT IT IS ONLY AFRICAN IS IGNORANT AND DISRESPECTFULL. all originators of hip hop and the ppl who have been in the bronx through its creation acknowledge this while outsiders invent their own history based on a biased beliefs . non the less african americans who search irrelavant information .like that video of the man dancing wich doesnt prove the style is theirs. its brazillian wich counts as latino. the genre of hip hop itself started with latin precussion.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem First of all when I say that hip hop is an African art I'm making a historical reference. I'm referring to the beats,drums,dance rhythm etc all these things derived and were influenced by African culture. It's not to say that the music we call hip hop today wasn't born here in nyc. I'm just saying that withou t those components there would be hip hop. Cont.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 but you extracted all the salsa influences.you ignored the fact that the reason why the original hip hop beats included salsa precussion. why is that??? because latinos were the majority and one of the main audiences so its not in the same level as the invovement of other races. wich is what you keep saying. realize that the south bronx is bllack and latin with no asians and whites. maybe one or two but not a big deal. and you cannot explain to me why african beats are related .
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem I made reference to KRS ONE because he was quoted as saying that hip hop was created through oppression and injustice. AGAIN i never denied the contribution to hip hop from latinos and other ethnic groups. As i've stated before hip hop is an african art form, and your right most dominicans and puerto ricans are confused AAs because most of them are in denial and are too ignorant to realize that they themselves are AFRICAN. LMAO.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 so what? i never denied the factor of opression. all i said was that latinos and blacks were both the victims and that was the spark of the genre so why dont you comprehend are you trying to confuse me? YES SOME LATINOS ARE HESITANT TO STATE THEY ARE BLACK. THOSE ARE LATIN PARENTS BORN OUTSIDE THE US. my father is my source. but you still evaid the situation that latinos are the second main contributers and its not the same as giving asians and whites credit. they werent in the bx.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 i have to give it to you though you finally came to a relization that hispanics in the bx are one of the main ppl of hip hop seperate from asians AND OTHERS because you stated that pr's and dr's are AA'S. APPLAUSE TO YOU because the argument was about why HIP HOP WAS STARTED WITH BOTH BLACK AND BLACK LATINOS ALONG WITH OTHER LATINOS. I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR ADMITTING THIS FINALLY.. re read what you wrote you implied that my point is true.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem secondly as I've stated before I do acknowledge the contributions to hip hop by other ethic groups plus the similarities of injustice,oppression and discrimination,but to say that this wasn't one of the vital if not main component to the birth of hip hop is down right just disrespectful. You even stated that the bx was decaying in which blks & Latinos fell victim to poverty and governmental corruption. Not to mention at that time no group was being targeted and deliberately attack
JRiddick16 4 months ago
no you faile to realize that latinos are the second MAJOR CONTRIBUTERS. to you latinos are a side dish just like white and asians but you didnt do your research on the earliest hip hop djays and early hip hop instrumentals. since its CREATION latinos have been involved cant you understand that?? latinos were in this culture since its creation and asians and other ethnicities just picked up on it thats the way it is. you still ignore that by typing that latinos and asians are credited the same.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem As for salsa being a precussion, again this is another component that derived and was influenced from Africa. Look it up. You make it seem like latinos themselves created salsa.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 your points are easily proven rong because there is a sighn of ignorance in every one. SO SALSA IS ALSO AFRICAN ART RIGHT??? your talking about tools used not combination of what makes the definition of the genre . because just like i didnt invent vowels and letters i can still invent my story by using resources that i have. your point would only make the credit of authors diminished because they didnt invent the alphabet of the dicktionary.
nycharlem 4 months ago
@nycharlem which includes all ppl of african descent even the ones(PR'S&Dominicans) who are too BRAINWASHED and IGNORANT to realize that they themselves are descendents of AFRICA. Being a native of nyc i always found it funny how other groups latch on to the creations of AA'S but then have such a distaste for them. In that regard IGNORANCE IS DEF BLISS.
JRiddick16 4 months ago
@JRiddick16 really? so you continue to credit the latinos mentioned. by the way i should mention that that its the old people brainwashed