Kershaw, Sarah. "Shaking Off the Shame." The New York Times, 25, November 2009
A must read for those who want to know the risks and hope for the AVERAGE cousin couple. (Average, meaning, not apart of communities that customarily practice cousin marriage marriage for generations. According to the ABC 20/20 report "When Cousins Marry," 200,000 cousins wed each year in the U.S.
Grady, Denise. "No Genetic Reason to Discourage Cousin Marriage, Study Finds." The New York Times, 3 April 2002
This article is based on the scientific findings by The National Society of Genetic Counselors in the Journal of Genetic Counseling. USA today, Time magazine, Discover Magazine, ABC 20/20 also document this evidence.
The risks for communities who have been marrying cousins for generations (substantially increasing risks) should not be applied to the average cousin couple.
@NaomiChambers It's just that marriage/sex and procreation are two very different things. If you tie the 2 together so closely, and if you think that the only purpose of marriage is to procreate, then you deny marriage to couples that practice incest, to gay people and to people that are sterile or have other disabilities, which is not very healthy for society imo. Informing people of what comes of incest born children is a very good idea. Telling people not to marry is different.
Cousins have quarter of your genetics, I wouldn't imagine it causing any problems for you, although it isn't right, although I couldn't imagine how many brothers have had sex with their sisters and just acted like it never happened, because they were both "horny". They put some many bad things in our water and food nothing surprises me how horny and irrational you can behave.
@Saabiqooon Amish & Hutterites have big genetic problems. Kelly McGillis as amish in a movie? HA! Not unless the mother was raped. Autosomal recessive disorders ARE birth defects, LD's harder to document, but are. I've seen at least 1 study where dogs avoid inbreeding where possible . Cousin marriage is gross and unnatural, would had been a nightmare to my gorgeous cousins to marry me.
In the near future I would expect more states to make it illegal but, eventually the facts will become known and the trend will reverse. There is no evidence to support the notion that generations of cousin marriage in itself results in genetic problems. The evidence indicates quite the opposite. One must challenge any statements about the dangers of cousins marrying and make people aware of the facts. That way the next generation may give up the myth.
@NaomiChambers Thank you. I was wanting to do a video on Muslim cousin marriages that had a bit more scholarly than one I made: 29 year old Turk can marry 15 year old cousin and become President of Turkey. Touching on Amish/Hutterites & royal families, summarize to UK Dispatches, parallels to dog inbreeding & screaming at the insanity of inbreeding . Remembered this as best on YT, noticed it was missing along with other vids on the subject, thought the Muslims got it took down.
Islam is the only religion that practices cousin marriage nowadays others that did in the past have moved on and heeded medical advice while Muslims have not thats why Muslims are more focused upon
"When the principles of breeding and of inheritance are better understood, we shall not hear ignorant members of our legislature rejecting with scorn a plan for ascertaining by an easy method whether or not consanguineous marriages are injurious to man."
@NaomiChambers Absolutely agree with you its ghastly, we need create awareness about the dangers of incest cousin marriage and the dangers that come with it, have a look on my channel as I also have videos that proof the dangers of incest cousin marriage
Your profile says that you support human rights. You cannot support human rights and be a muslim at the same time. Islam is very much against human rights for all non muslims.
So you have proven that a small number of Christains are endangering their childrens health. Good Job
You should use a little more logic in your thinking .... ALL religions that encourage or permit cousin marriage are bad.
Recent studies have proven that cousin marriage is harmful. You really should make an effort to read peer reviewed SCIENTIFIC journals and update your education
You say you want to prove that Islam is harmful to Muslims, but wouldn't it be more harmful if Islam allowed men to marry their mothers or aunts since they share a higher percentage of DNA? The prophet, peace be upon him, actually encouraged marriage of non-related couples. Cousin marriage in the middle east, I'm from Qatar so I would know, is actually not a Muslim practice but a societal common. Islam allows cousin marriage, but it doesn't enforce it on Muslims.
Endogamy and consanguinous unions, even of the closest degree, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, in and of themselves cause defectives. But they do cause both positive and negative recessive traits to surface more readily in the line of a given stock. There is nothing wrong with what nearly every aristocratic family on the face of the earth has practiced. What the cornerstones of many respectable civilizations: Hellenes, Indians, Persians, Egyptians, Celts, Incas, and more.
Cousin to cousin marriages are common in the muslim world. It is asking for trouble.
This is the "village idiot" of the early Western world, eliminated in civilized countries by the advent of the railroad.The hospitals and psychiatric wards in muslim immigrant ghettos in Sweden, Denmark and especially the UK are full of "jinns" and patients with serious physical defects. When told it is a result of inbreeding,relatives refuse to believe it.
You know what, there's no point in arguing, you're never going to break my belief and I am never going to break your disbelief, which in reality I don't have any desire to do so. I hope you have a good life, I shall not aid you any further in increasing your ego. When the day comes, it will all make sense. God bless you miss Chambers, have a lovely life.:)
There is no point arguing with you. You admit your logic is bad. You admit that you rely on logical fallacies. You are egotistical, vain, and think a magical god created the world just for you.
I hope you have a happy life, and can someday come to your senses. ( Which means accepting harsh reality rather than living in a fairy tale)
Just because you can't see something, doesn't mean that it isn't there. And by the way, you still haven't provided sufficient proof that God or any other deity, as you say doesn't exist. You are just repeating the same scientific principle. I'm not trying to make you, or anyone else believe in something, just stating that he is there. And if I were you, I would, for your hearts sake, not get all flustered over one Christian. Your heart really will thank you for that:)
Saying that Thor, Athena, Allah or Zeus is not there is not a scientific principle.
It is common sense.
You are so brain washed that you are refusing to use logic. Your emotional need ( personal insecurities ) and desperation is what leads you to believing in magical things.
There is a time to grow up and face reality. There is a time to be an adult and not a child.
If you make a claim... then you carry the burden of proof. No person can prove Zeus, Allah, Thor, Athena, Loki - or ANY invisible thing Does not exist. The person who makes the claim always carries the Burden
You cannot expect someone to believe something if you cannot prove it.
YOU CAN NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO PROVE AN INVISIBLE GOD DOES NOT EXIST
IF YOU CLAIM THE GOD IS REAL - THEN YOU MUST PROVE IT
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A CLAIM, AND EXPECT OTHERS TO BUY IT
Why is it your brain cannot grasp that fact? A 3rd grader understand the burden of proof always rests on the person MAKING the claim. Once cannot prove an imaginary, invisible deity isn't there. What is wrong with you? Really? What is it with your brain?
YOU CAN NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO PROVE AN INVISIBLE GOD DOES NOT EXIST
IF YOU CLAIM THE GOD IS REAL - THEN YOU MUST PROVE IT
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A CLAIM, AND EXPECT OTHERS TO BUY IT
Why is it your brain cannot grasp that fact? A 3rd grader understand the burden of proof always rests on the person MAKING the claim. Once cannot prove an imaginary, invisible deity isn't there. What is wrong with you? Really? What is it with your brain?
You know what? One of these days you may need God or whomever you like to call him/ her. Have a good life, and if you're a mother, happy mother's day. Hope you understand that:) God bless you ma'am.
That does not make any sense. What should not produce what? Be produce shouldn't - what ?
Can you as a coherent question? It sounds like you do not know English well enough to even engage in this discussion, because you cannot even structure a sentence properly.
@NaomiChambers Oh and it would be "cannot be a product of Zeus" not product, and to be fair where's your evidence that he doesn't exist? I thought that was logic 101. Well, that's actually my final farewell:)
YOU CAN NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO PROVE AN INVISIBLE GOD DOES NOT EXIST
IF YOU CLAIM THE GOD IS REAL - THEN YOU MUST PROVE IT
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A CLAIM, AND EXPECT OTHERS TO BUY IT
Why is it your brain cannot grasp that fact? A 3rd grader understand the burden of proof always rests on the person MAKING the claim. Once cannot prove an imaginary, invisible deity isn't there. What is wrong with you? Really? What is it with your brain?
@NaomiChambers provide evidence that he doesn't. I'm not saying we should turn a blind eye on science, just that science is the product of God. What's your theory on his non existence, I've heard them all. By the way, calling someone's religion stupid is unprofessional and childish. Well, God bless you Naomi:)
Science cannot be a produce of Zeus...I mean Thor...I mean Poseidon...I mean Allah... Because ALL of these gods do not exist.
If you claim something, no matter what that claim is - You Carry The Burden of Proof.
That is Logic 101. You cannot claim something is real, then turn around and tell people to prove your imaginary, supernatural deity is not there - your logic is flawed.
Pretty good research, but in my heart I know God is real, and I know a lot of religious people christian or otherwise harbor hatred for atheists, I do not. I only pray for all of you. You know just because there is science doesn't mean there's no God.
@NaomiChambers that....has...absolutely...nothing to do with my comment...im asking you as an invdividual to be more respectful "islam is harmful for people" that is a very offensive statement to make. i didnt attack your research, nor your interpretation, representation or the argument you make on cousin marriage...
i think that even if your research seems valid that you are taking a very harsh and disrespectful standpoint against Islam. Islam is a religious movement that, hopefully you conducted your research with an open mind contrary to the narrow minded western hate that is seen today, Islam is a religion that preaches peace. Also please keep in mind that the Islamic guidelines were set nearly 1400 years ago. I personally disagree with first cousin marriage but keep in mind that the
Islam is based on preserving the originality of the religion in order to minimize the influence of secular objectives that may be casted on the religion by leaders of nations in order to prevent abuse of a religion, sadly with corrupt leaders like bin laden, false interpretations and purposeful brain washing are used in the name of god, but thats a different debate. Also keep in mind that not much more than 150 years ago Christian aristocracy practiced such marriages in order to keep the blood
"pure". I am by no means taking a stand against your research or the damages / consequences of first cousin marriages, I merely ask you to be more thoughtful and respectful towards a religion and understand that all true followers of god practice the same religion just in different cultures. Terrorism has sadly ruined the view of Islam in the world, Terrorism is a tool of politically inspired leaders who use religion as a mask in order to control others. I'm a proud Muslim and respect your faith
Okay, i found one research article about consanguineous marriage on the internet. Hmm, sounds weird, cause it's about Beirut, the city of Shiites, Marionites and Sunnis.Catholic Marionites are part of cousin marriage too?? Interesting.
TheAmazingMonotheist had a good point, we didn't know that we had to go to university or a library and ask for the research papers by giving refferences. I search engined them and all i found was a PDF page with just refferences.
But if you say that's the way it go's, i'll then try asking a library for the research papers and read all of them.
If they're a way to get them online, then how would i do it in that convienient way?
How do i fucken open up those science articles on your video description box . Do i like copy and paste the refferences and search them up on a search engine?
1st - When you went to a University, one of the first things they should have taught you is how to obtain research papers. It sounds like you have never used a library before.
2nd. Do not curse. In fact, you should not be posting on my videos if you get this angry because you do not know how to do something.
PRINT THE LIST AND GO TO A LIBRARY YOU FUCKING MORON!!! DUH ! This is high school!
@mad8london247 There is only 1 God, there is no other Gods. Some are imagnary, others may exist . I studied Pseudo-Archeology and discussed with a greek Nationalist. They actually say that the other Gods they talk about were space aliens. Zeus was a space alien and they said the Cretan Language was a supposed universial language (it is a language isolate though). I read books like Chariots of the Gods and like Gods from out space. It's conspiracy theory stuff. It sais God"s" pretend to be God.
@mad8london247 Look, your God is not real, but he may be a real being. He's not as mighty as god because God is universial, and he's inclined to all, your being is more inclined to an Earth Realm and lighting , and doesn't care about anything that is beyond the earth realm or lighting.
Think about it, who's better to be God, a guy who only cares about Earth Realm or a God who can run everything including the earth realm. He has to be all encompassing and not just inclined to specific things.
@NaomiChambers Here's one thing you use. You presuppose the existence of multiple beings that claim to have the same attributes of God equally existent as God himself. There is only 1 God, why do you have to say that other beings are equally likely to exist. If like another myth has a character that has almost the same attributes as God, then why not call him God.
I believe different humanity have corrupted his attributes and built him partners, making God into Zeus and Thor.
@NaomiChambers and here is proof that he exists. Look at design in the universe. God designed this universe so that it could be. You know why the Big Bang theory is being contended by scientists. Because they want to get rid of the fact of a fine tuner in this universe who had to make the big bang possible.
Many Physicists adopted the multiverse theory where different big bangs kept banging until one got it right to get the right mathematical equations.Modern Physicists sway us from design.
@NaomiChambers no one knows what's the cause, but they're both disorders that affect cognitive development. Personally, i haven't seen any Muslim defected children. Instaed, the children are like rebels that always fight with you and don't play by the rules, i see that among Arabs instead of drooling. Malaysians and Indonesians are recently converted nations so nothing yet....
Pakistanis, i don't recall any mental disorders, i myself is compared stupid to all my paki friends. Physical, maybe.
I recommend that you read each and every peer reviewed article posted in the video description box before you claim " no one knows the cause ". The reason is simple - the scientists are all saying you are wrong.
These are people who studied for 10-15 years in their discipline. You are saying that you know more about genetics than they do.
After you finished reading, we can continue this discussion.
@NaomiChambers Yes, but still dosn't convince me. I know personally a first cousins couple and they have 2 normal biological children, their daughter is actually straight A student in school and i'm really sure there are more people like this in the world.On the other hand pakistanies have that problem of having babies with birth deffects because they usually remarry their cousins.
You mentioned Einstein married his first cousin ; however, you failed to mention Einstein was a PRODUCT of incest.-- if I am not wrong, his parents were cousins. What are your comments on how that may have affected his intelligence?
His father Hermann Einstein was from Ulmm German. His mother was Pauline Koch was from Cannstatt, Württemberg. Paulines parents were Julius Doerzbacher and Jette Bernheimer.
Hermann Einstein's parents were Abraham and Helene Einstein. Julius, Jette were not the brother or sister of Hermann and Pauline.
Albert Einstein was NOT a product of first cousin marriage.
I block people for posting irrelevant comments. If you have something to say about this video, or if you read all the peer reviewed articles in this video and would like to add something, feel free to do so.
@NaomiChambers okay why would you block people posting irrelevant comments? Isn't it better for your youtube channel to have any comments at all?I mean, youtube has a rank called "the most discussed " section, therefore the more irrelavent comments , or any comment in general makes the video more popular. Then more people will have a chance to find out about your channel. I just hate why people delete hater/troll comments.It's 5 years, you got no chance for a million subs,take all hate you need.
@NaomiChambers I mean, whenever i have haters come on my video. I let them feed off of me, i don't block people because youtube is goanna die soon. I'm just an attention whore :) I only wanted to be known on youtube.
@NaomiChambers and which of your videos may i discuss pantheism, and the broader topic? Ofcourse not, they're just about bashing Islam, personal stuff, other and being a Polyglot. Where do you find these articles? Okay i may have to do my own scientific census. It's time consuming to find all these sources.
Find some video on youtube about pantheism and comment on it.
That is what you do.
Of course it is time consuming to read peer reviewed articles. But that is how people learn. Education is never easy. If it is easy, then you are probably not really learning.
You may comment AFTER you read the peer reviewed articles.
@NaomiChambers Evidence That Cousin Marriage Causes High IQ, Prodigy and Birth Enhancements.
"I read it up, all it is is based off of Mendelian genetics. This is not evidence of birth defects, but instead you can say the Muslims got the worst recessiveness set of alleles. remember, Naomichambers, you didn't take up the counter argument of Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence. They incested, so why are they not low iq'ued and retarded? "
Naomichambers, this is an extraneous question, do Muslims and Christians have the same god ? I mean you're a non-muslim Islamic Scholar, you should know. Illuminati will rule the whole world, Muslims are side by. 9/11 was an inside job, stop trying to attack GOD, God of Muhammad, God of Jesus, God of the universe, the lord of the worlds, the one who existed since the beggining. This is what's it's all about and you throw this whole concept because you are threatened by Muhammad's succession.
Evidence That Cousin Marriage Causes High IQ, Prodigy and Birth Enhancements.
I read it up, all it is is based off of Mendelian genetics. This is not evidence of birth defects, but instead you can say the Muslims got the worst recessiveness set of alleles. remember, Naomichambers, you didn't take up the counter argument of Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence. They incested, so why are they not low iq'ued and retarded?
I am not suspecting a foul play or a dishonest approach in your or the researchers findings.
My intelligence suspects that there findings might have flaws.
There are many things which are propagated into our minds that we start believing in the SURETY of things which only have a possibility of being true.
I think the best example is "Theory of Evolution" , its just a theory, not with enough proofs, but the way its discussed fools an unsuspecting person
I recommend you read all the articles. Many Muslim scientists around the world disagree with you.
Cousin Marriage is harmful to children, especially for people from Pakistan.
The good news, is that these people are slowly beginning to change their behavior. Changing tradition is difficult. But they are slowly accepting why their children are sick.
I find it hard to accept that cousins marrying is dangerous for the coming generation.
Mainly for two reasons ->
1- Its permitted in Islam ( Prophet Mohammad s.a.w married to his cousin and married his daughter Fatima a.s to his cousin Ali a.s) , so anything permitted and practiced by prophet himself cannot be dangerous or harmful in general.
2- This "inbreeding"has been practiced among the Syeds of India , I being one of them, for more than 1000 years.
When the Quran was written, and when Muhammad lived, they did not know about DNA or recessive genes. We have a lot more knowledge about the world today than humans did 1400 years ago.
It is better to come to conclusions about what is good or bad based on the scientific research. This means - use evidence, not faith.
@najafzaidi Why do we have to follow something Prophet Mohammad did years ago? now we have advance science which tells us that its dangerous to marry our cousins not only that but your cousins share the same DNA as you so its like marrying your own brother or sister
COUSIN MARRIAGE SHOULD BE BANNED IN THE WHOLE WORLD
my bad , I was lazy enough to avoid reading the articles/studies.
Nevertheless, I will continue to hold what I believe , but will also keep in mind the possibilities pointed by you. ( At least until, I feel very strongly to defend my opinion)
Do you actually see/believe the the various researches took care of the countless things ? Don't you agree with - "This observations are scientific and might help in PREDICTING something PROBABILISTICALLY but not for sure ."
I trust you when you say that such and such study has been done, but even if there are thousands of such study , what's important is how extensive these researches have been.
for example what was the sample size ?
studying about thousands of cases and inferring from that for billions might be probable but not 100% true !
Have other factors been taken into account - what medicines were prescribed to the pregnant woman( if any) ?
Even the basic things like type of water and weather could have an effect on child's birth .
What is the pollen concentration in the region ?
etc.
When a study is being done, the researchers are seeing a consequence and ASSUMING the thing which might have kick started it. This is scientific and might help in PREDICTING something PROBABILISTICALLY but not for sure ...
You must read the case studies in order to answer these questions. The are all scientific, and peer reviewed. So you will have to read each and every one of them on your own time.
For example if the most common prescribed medicine in middle east has some adverse effect on the people living in their conditions (weather and all), then all the findings would lead to flawed reasoning !!
My advice is that you look up for a research where a difference is seen among people of same region , same social status, diet etc.. but with a tradition of marrying/ not marrying cousins.
Like in Thailand there was a Thai king that was reported to do mass incest and like i guess the family their was like okay, cause this is totally dependant on reccessive allelles, and reccessive dominants always switch back and forth. Short-Bone Dwarfism swithces around many times.... where they found it come in both reccessive and dominant....
Naomi chambers if a Far Gene pool makes a healtheir child, what about the dominant ones?
Black person - White person makes a black baby though...
Genes are weird cause one scenario they had this group of Nordic looking people somewhere in Afghanistan and that they were incested..... but that's before they had like some thing darkening affect that happened, Like Tajiks are all mixed up and afghans say they have sucky traits, and So are Urbanized Pashtuns that looked all mixed up, like in Jalalabad..... or maybe it's a founder's effect i don't know. hhhmmm..... I'm just speaking in a Eugenics frontier i'm not deffending Islam, statin incest
Also i know some Afghan families who have had biologically more fit children who were smarter and more tough.. their children was incested (cousin marriage) , while the ones that mixed with other groups tended to have sucky biological standards cause they were darker and short. It's this race mixing effect, an afghan told me, cause in Urban cities people tended to mix around look uniform and the same, while in rural areas the incested people looked nordic...
Okay Naomi chambers , Jews are Smart and they cousin marriaged all the time
Here's an article with the same title....
Ashkenazi intelligence, search that up, Ashkenazis incested way more than Muslims so why is their IQ alot high???? the highest recorded by them was 200.....
and also Cousin marriage is only bad between recessive alleles, only recessive alleles, there are many diseases that come the same way expressed as dominant. Incest is based on Mendelian genetics,
Cousin marriage is not a muslim issue. it is legal in most (if not all, I have not done a survey) countries in the West. I am no arab apologist but to state that cousin marriage is an islamic issue simply shows that the author has an innate anti islamic bias. Why dont we argue that being blue eyed is bad for children because blue eyed people indulge in cousin marriage.
The so called research of the lady posting this is of less inerest that the drool of a one year old
In modern times, sadly cousin marriage is a Muslim issue. In the video description box, I published a list of peer reviewed essays. These essays discuss cousin marriage amongst many people, not just Muslims. Did you miss that part?
It is clear that you never read the essays and most likely.... you lack the mental capacity to do so. Maybe you should drool like a 1 year old? At least that is something you can do.
@NaomiChambers ni naomi i m a born muslim and i m a doctor too.......with gaining of knowledge now i know that i m a proud atheist.......and this is for imran .....fckya
You mentioned that Jews eventually figured things out and stopped their behavior. Interestingly, cousin marriage is still prevalent amongst Hareidi Jews in Israel. Perhaps being surrounded by Muslim countries has more influence on Israel than it would like to believe.
What is worse is that often the children that do suffer disabilities as a result of cousin marriage are married off to one another because they're not considered suitable mates for anyone else which, needless to say, is a bad idea.
I believe it is incumbent upon all of us to discern those things in the Torah, Bible, Koran or any other ancient religious writings which are not in keeping with the knowledge we now possess, especially in reference of our medical knowledge. Those who believe it’s ‘okay’ to procreate with their first cousins are living in the dark ages and quality of their lives, their communities, prove this statement is true.
Apparently there are still some people who live in the 'dark ages'. One book I would recommend that some of you guys read is "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel P. Huntington. IMHO, the book gives good insight into what the West is up against with regard to Islam.
Apparently there are still some people who lie in the 'dark ages'. One book I would recommend that some of you guys read is "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel P. Huntington. IMHO, the book gives good insight into what the West is up against with regard to Islam.
Interesting that almost all non-Muslim Africa is "unknown". were the researchers just not interested? or did they make this map by compiling others' statistics and there weren't any for those countries? Or was the rate really low? or was the rate higher than Muslim countries, and might muddy the point against Islam? I'd really love to know.
The papers are in the video description box. I am not sure if you had a chance to read each one of them yet. But the researchers, many of them, were Muslims.
The only non-Muslim groups who did intermarry were Jews and some Hindus in India. The hindus practiced uncle-niece marriages.
Cousin marriage was also common in Christianity.
The only reason Christians stopped was for cultural reasons.
The reason´s royal families would inter marry was to maintain what they considered to be ´royal blood´. This was a common practice in ancient Egypt.
Remember, we are talking about modern scientific knowledge. Royalty suffered consequences as well for their behavior. Since they are so few in number, and the close inbreeding was so long ago, it is nearly impossible to do a study. Typically royal marriages were arranged for economic reasons.
I disagree with this video; my uncle married his cousin and he has 4 girls: One in med school, one who just graduated from university studing accountancy, one who has just started university studying medicine after getting 99.4% in her exams and one who is very smart and gets 100% in almost every exam at school. Also, Islam does not hurt Muslims; it gives Muslims the choice of whether or not they wish to marry their cousins; not force it upon them.
Your uncle may very well have 4 smart daughters. You may want to google the question, "What is Anecdotal Evidence." I would also recommend reading all the peer reviewed articles listed in the video description box. They will explain in great detail the science involved.
You don't need to be a geneticist to know that procreating with your first cousin is dangerous and disgusting.
Jefgg 1 week ago
Kershaw, Sarah. "Shaking Off the Shame." The New York Times, 25, November 2009
A must read for those who want to know the risks and hope for the AVERAGE cousin couple. (Average, meaning, not apart of communities that customarily practice cousin marriage marriage for generations. According to the ABC 20/20 report "When Cousins Marry," 200,000 cousins wed each year in the U.S.
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Grady, Denise. "No Genetic Reason to Discourage Cousin Marriage, Study Finds." The New York Times, 3 April 2002
This article is based on the scientific findings by The National Society of Genetic Counselors in the Journal of Genetic Counseling. USA today, Time magazine, Discover Magazine, ABC 20/20 also document this evidence.
The risks for communities who have been marrying cousins for generations (substantially increasing risks) should not be applied to the average cousin couple.
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Read the sentence or Ayath No.(33:50) in the Holy Quran carefully. It could be related to the marriages with the first cousin.
hsaltaf71 3 weeks ago
@hsaltaf71
I do not care about the Quran, it is as just as primitive as the Bible
NaomiChambers 2 weeks ago
Read the sentence or Ayath No.(39:50) in the Holy Quran carefully. It could be related to the marriages with the first cousin.
hsaltaf71 3 weeks ago
It's not marriage that causes it, it is procreation. People that get married don't necessarily have kids...
KainSlash 1 month ago
@KainSlash
Would you like me to change the video to... Cousin Procreation...instead? Will it clear up some confusion for you?
NaomiChambers 1 month ago
@NaomiChambers It's just that marriage/sex and procreation are two very different things. If you tie the 2 together so closely, and if you think that the only purpose of marriage is to procreate, then you deny marriage to couples that practice incest, to gay people and to people that are sterile or have other disabilities, which is not very healthy for society imo. Informing people of what comes of incest born children is a very good idea. Telling people not to marry is different.
KainSlash 1 month ago
Cousins have quarter of your genetics, I wouldn't imagine it causing any problems for you, although it isn't right, although I couldn't imagine how many brothers have had sex with their sisters and just acted like it never happened, because they were both "horny". They put some many bad things in our water and food nothing surprises me how horny and irrational you can behave.
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@Saabiqooon Amish & Hutterites have big genetic problems. Kelly McGillis as amish in a movie? HA! Not unless the mother was raped. Autosomal recessive disorders ARE birth defects, LD's harder to document, but are. I've seen at least 1 study where dogs avoid inbreeding where possible . Cousin marriage is gross and unnatural, would had been a nightmare to my gorgeous cousins to marry me.
robertmike57 4 months ago
In the near future I would expect more states to make it illegal but, eventually the facts will become known and the trend will reverse. There is no evidence to support the notion that generations of cousin marriage in itself results in genetic problems. The evidence indicates quite the opposite. One must challenge any statements about the dangers of cousins marrying and make people aware of the facts. That way the next generation may give up the myth.
~ Martin Ottenheimer, Professor of Anthro
SpeedyPerez210 6 months ago
@SpeedyPerez210
There is evidence that generations of cousin marriage causes many risks for children. The articles in the video description box proves it.
And the opinion of an anthropologist is not relevant when we are discussing biology. I also answer that question in a cousin marriage video
NaomiChambers 6 months ago
@NaomiChambers Thank you. I was wanting to do a video on Muslim cousin marriages that had a bit more scholarly than one I made: 29 year old Turk can marry 15 year old cousin and become President of Turkey. Touching on Amish/Hutterites & royal families, summarize to UK Dispatches, parallels to dog inbreeding & screaming at the insanity of inbreeding . Remembered this as best on YT, noticed it was missing along with other vids on the subject, thought the Muslims got it took down.
robertmike57 4 months ago
Your video only discusses this within the confines of Islam. An the risk of
Genetic disorders through first cousin marriage only is significant through
Many generations
SpeedyPerez210 6 months ago
@SpeedyPerez210 A risk is a risk
Islam is the only religion that practices cousin marriage nowadays others that did in the past have moved on and heeded medical advice while Muslims have not thats why Muslims are more focused upon
lollywoodchannel 6 months ago
Charles Darwin & Emma Wedgewood: A Cousin Couple
"When the principles of breeding and of inheritance are better understood, we shall not hear ignorant members of our legislature rejecting with scorn a plan for ascertaining by an easy method whether or not consanguineous marriages are injurious to man."
Charles Darwin (1871)
SpeedyPerez210 6 months ago
@Saabiqooon JUST autosmoal recessive conditions you think that this is a small condition? it can affect ones life
lollywoodchannel 6 months ago
@lollywoodchannel
It is interesting he thinks they are not a big deal. As if ... he has never seen someone with these genetic disorders. It is ghastly.
NaomiChambers 6 months ago
@NaomiChambers Absolutely agree with you its ghastly, we need create awareness about the dangers of incest cousin marriage and the dangers that come with it, have a look on my channel as I also have videos that proof the dangers of incest cousin marriage
lollywoodchannel 6 months ago
@Saabiqooon
Your profile says that you support human rights. You cannot support human rights and be a muslim at the same time. Islam is very much against human rights for all non muslims.
NaomiChambers 6 months ago
@Saabiqooon
So you have proven that a small number of Christains are endangering their childrens health. Good Job
You should use a little more logic in your thinking .... ALL religions that encourage or permit cousin marriage are bad.
Recent studies have proven that cousin marriage is harmful. You really should make an effort to read peer reviewed SCIENTIFIC journals and update your education
NaomiChambers 6 months ago
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MrLekamge 2 weeks ago
You say you want to prove that Islam is harmful to Muslims, but wouldn't it be more harmful if Islam allowed men to marry their mothers or aunts since they share a higher percentage of DNA? The prophet, peace be upon him, actually encouraged marriage of non-related couples. Cousin marriage in the middle east, I'm from Qatar so I would know, is actually not a Muslim practice but a societal common. Islam allows cousin marriage, but it doesn't enforce it on Muslims.
sul6ans 7 months ago
@sul6ans
anything that allows cousin marriage is bad.
Muhammad was not a prophet - he was a mentally ill pervert and war monger
NaomiChambers 7 months ago
@sul6ans
You are saying..¨Islam does not allow boys to have sex with their mothers, ergo, Islam is good¨
That is one of the worst arguments for religion I have ever heard.
NaomiChambers 6 months ago
you need to check out josh allem ,science of gods word .
crazysillybaby1 7 months ago
@crazysillybaby1
there is no science in the quran.
NaomiChambers 7 months ago
@NaomiChambers i can see you didint look it up ..hes not talking about the quran .
crazysillybaby1 7 months ago
@crazysillybaby1
then comments should be clear and straight to the point
NaomiChambers 7 months ago
@NaomiChambers it was
crazysillybaby1 7 months ago
Endogamy and consanguinous unions, even of the closest degree, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, in and of themselves cause defectives. But they do cause both positive and negative recessive traits to surface more readily in the line of a given stock. There is nothing wrong with what nearly every aristocratic family on the face of the earth has practiced. What the cornerstones of many respectable civilizations: Hellenes, Indians, Persians, Egyptians, Celts, Incas, and more.
NKVism3 8 months ago
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Cousin to cousin marriages are common in the muslim world. It is asking for trouble.
This is the "village idiot" of the early Western world, eliminated in civilized countries by the advent of the railroad.The hospitals and psychiatric wards in muslim immigrant ghettos in Sweden, Denmark and especially the UK are full of "jinns" and patients with serious physical defects. When told it is a result of inbreeding,relatives refuse to believe it.
sardanapolis 9 months ago
You know what, there's no point in arguing, you're never going to break my belief and I am never going to break your disbelief, which in reality I don't have any desire to do so. I hope you have a good life, I shall not aid you any further in increasing your ego. When the day comes, it will all make sense. God bless you miss Chambers, have a lovely life.:)
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
There is no point arguing with you. You admit your logic is bad. You admit that you rely on logical fallacies. You are egotistical, vain, and think a magical god created the world just for you.
I hope you have a happy life, and can someday come to your senses. ( Which means accepting harsh reality rather than living in a fairy tale)
Bye Bye
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart k there
FIGHTFANNERD3 9 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
God does not exist...so that day of judgement will never come.
Make the most of the life you have.
NaomiChambers 9 months ago
You still haven't provided evidence, and therefore you are a hypocrite.
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
Just because you can't see something, doesn't mean that it isn't there. And by the way, you still haven't provided sufficient proof that God or any other deity, as you say doesn't exist. You are just repeating the same scientific principle. I'm not trying to make you, or anyone else believe in something, just stating that he is there. And if I were you, I would, for your hearts sake, not get all flustered over one Christian. Your heart really will thank you for that:)
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
There are invisible sea people living in the oceans, in invisible bubble cities.
Do you believe in that too? Just because you can´t see them, doesn't mean they are not there?
You really need to use your brain for a second. Just try to think.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
Saying that Thor, Athena, Allah or Zeus is not there is not a scientific principle.
It is common sense.
You are so brain washed that you are refusing to use logic. Your emotional need ( personal insecurities ) and desperation is what leads you to believing in magical things.
There is a time to grow up and face reality. There is a time to be an adult and not a child.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
Yeah, but where's your proof that he doesn't exist? Thats all I want to know.
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
If you make a claim... then you carry the burden of proof. No person can prove Zeus, Allah, Thor, Athena, Loki - or ANY invisible thing Does not exist. The person who makes the claim always carries the Burden
You cannot expect someone to believe something if you cannot prove it.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
Once again - I will repeat myself
YOU CAN NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO PROVE AN INVISIBLE GOD DOES NOT EXIST
IF YOU CLAIM THE GOD IS REAL - THEN YOU MUST PROVE IT
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A CLAIM, AND EXPECT OTHERS TO BUY IT
Why is it your brain cannot grasp that fact? A 3rd grader understand the burden of proof always rests on the person MAKING the claim. Once cannot prove an imaginary, invisible deity isn't there. What is wrong with you? Really? What is it with your brain?
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
How can you say that he doesn't exist when you have no proof that he doesn't exist?
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
If you make a claim... then you carry the burden of proof.
Do you have any evidence he exists? NOPE.
You cannot expect someone to believe something if you cannot prove it.
PS - asking questions like ( where did the sun come from ) is not proof.
Produce real EVIDENCE that your god exists.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
Once again - I will repeat myself
YOU CAN NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO PROVE AN INVISIBLE GOD DOES NOT EXIST
IF YOU CLAIM THE GOD IS REAL - THEN YOU MUST PROVE IT
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A CLAIM, AND EXPECT OTHERS TO BUY IT
Why is it your brain cannot grasp that fact? A 3rd grader understand the burden of proof always rests on the person MAKING the claim. Once cannot prove an imaginary, invisible deity isn't there. What is wrong with you? Really? What is it with your brain?
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
Well, can you prove God doesn't exist Naomi?
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
You know what? One of these days you may need God or whomever you like to call him/ her. Have a good life, and if you're a mother, happy mother's day. Hope you understand that:) God bless you ma'am.
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
And one of these days you may need The Invisible Pink Unicorn or Thor.
Why not just go ahead and believe in those gods too.
I hope you can understand the rationality in that?
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
Shoudnt be produce is what I'm getting at.
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
That does not make any sense. What should not produce what? Be produce shouldn't - what ?
Can you as a coherent question? It sounds like you do not know English well enough to even engage in this discussion, because you cannot even structure a sentence properly.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers Oh and it would be "cannot be a product of Zeus" not product, and to be fair where's your evidence that he doesn't exist? I thought that was logic 101. Well, that's actually my final farewell:)
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
Once again - I will repeat myself
YOU CAN NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO PROVE AN INVISIBLE GOD DOES NOT EXIST
IF YOU CLAIM THE GOD IS REAL - THEN YOU MUST PROVE IT
YOU CAN NEVER MAKE A CLAIM, AND EXPECT OTHERS TO BUY IT
Why is it your brain cannot grasp that fact? A 3rd grader understand the burden of proof always rests on the person MAKING the claim. Once cannot prove an imaginary, invisible deity isn't there. What is wrong with you? Really? What is it with your brain?
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers Then let my logic be flawed. I've wasted enough of my life talking to you online, ma'am, have a good life and God bless your soul.
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
You acknowledge your logic is flawed.
That is always the first step.
Now try taking the next one.
Chose to use good logic. It will only make your life better.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers provide evidence that he doesn't. I'm not saying we should turn a blind eye on science, just that science is the product of God. What's your theory on his non existence, I've heard them all. By the way, calling someone's religion stupid is unprofessional and childish. Well, God bless you Naomi:)
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
Science cannot be a produce of Zeus...I mean Thor...I mean Poseidon...I mean Allah... Because ALL of these gods do not exist.
If you claim something, no matter what that claim is - You Carry The Burden of Proof.
That is Logic 101. You cannot claim something is real, then turn around and tell people to prove your imaginary, supernatural deity is not there - your logic is flawed.
PS - your religion is stupid
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
Pretty good research, but in my heart I know God is real, and I know a lot of religious people christian or otherwise harbor hatred for atheists, I do not. I only pray for all of you. You know just because there is science doesn't mean there's no God.
4everKingdomHeart 10 months ago
@4everKingdomHeart
Putting your heart in an imaginary deity and giving the middle finger to science is pretty stupid.
I have an idea, when you need surgery, instead of going to the hospital, why not just pray?
There is no god because there is no god. If you feel that god is real - Then Produce Evidence.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
Great Video with much research behind it!!!
kastnmagic 10 months ago
as well as everyone else's, so it is not too much to ask the same of you.
M19A91S 11 months ago
@M19A91S
I read all those articles and wrote an essay on them.
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
@NaomiChambers that....has...absolutely...nothing to do with my comment...im asking you as an invdividual to be more respectful "islam is harmful for people" that is a very offensive statement to make. i didnt attack your research, nor your interpretation, representation or the argument you make on cousin marriage...
M19A91S 11 months ago
hey naomi....
i think that even if your research seems valid that you are taking a very harsh and disrespectful standpoint against Islam. Islam is a religious movement that, hopefully you conducted your research with an open mind contrary to the narrow minded western hate that is seen today, Islam is a religion that preaches peace. Also please keep in mind that the Islamic guidelines were set nearly 1400 years ago. I personally disagree with first cousin marriage but keep in mind that the
M19A91S 11 months ago
Islam is based on preserving the originality of the religion in order to minimize the influence of secular objectives that may be casted on the religion by leaders of nations in order to prevent abuse of a religion, sadly with corrupt leaders like bin laden, false interpretations and purposeful brain washing are used in the name of god, but thats a different debate. Also keep in mind that not much more than 150 years ago Christian aristocracy practiced such marriages in order to keep the blood
M19A91S 11 months ago
"pure". I am by no means taking a stand against your research or the damages / consequences of first cousin marriages, I merely ask you to be more thoughtful and respectful towards a religion and understand that all true followers of god practice the same religion just in different cultures. Terrorism has sadly ruined the view of Islam in the world, Terrorism is a tool of politically inspired leaders who use religion as a mask in order to control others. I'm a proud Muslim and respect your faith
M19A91S 11 months ago
Okay, i found one research article about consanguineous marriage on the internet. Hmm, sounds weird, cause it's about Beirut, the city of Shiites, Marionites and Sunnis.Catholic Marionites are part of cousin marriage too?? Interesting.
southpark123secret 11 months ago
TheAmazingMonotheist had a good point, we didn't know that we had to go to university or a library and ask for the research papers by giving refferences. I search engined them and all i found was a PDF page with just refferences.
But if you say that's the way it go's, i'll then try asking a library for the research papers and read all of them.
If they're a way to get them online, then how would i do it in that convienient way?
southpark123secret 11 months ago
You say, i have to like print out the list and ask them at a library. Is my city library enough. Okay i'll read the awesome shit.
southpark123secret 11 months ago
How do i fucken open up those science articles on your video description box . Do i like copy and paste the refferences and search them up on a search engine?
TheAmazingMonotheist 11 months ago
@TheAmazingMonotheist
1st - When you went to a University, one of the first things they should have taught you is how to obtain research papers. It sounds like you have never used a library before.
2nd. Do not curse. In fact, you should not be posting on my videos if you get this angry because you do not know how to do something.
PRINT THE LIST AND GO TO A LIBRARY YOU FUCKING MORON!!! DUH ! This is high school!
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
@NaomiChambers
Good gods...AmazingMonotheist sounds like a product of those cousin marriages..lol
Keep up the good work. x
mad8london247 11 months ago
@mad8london247 There is only 1 God, there is no other Gods. Some are imagnary, others may exist . I studied Pseudo-Archeology and discussed with a greek Nationalist. They actually say that the other Gods they talk about were space aliens. Zeus was a space alien and they said the Cretan Language was a supposed universial language (it is a language isolate though). I read books like Chariots of the Gods and like Gods from out space. It's conspiracy theory stuff. It sais God"s" pretend to be God.
southpark123secret 10 months ago
@southpark123secret
So which one is the real god? The one you worship or the one that I worship?
Keep your god and I shall keep mine.
Blessings to Raiden, god of lightning and defender of the Earth Realm.
mad8london247 10 months ago
@mad8london247 Look, your God is not real, but he may be a real being. He's not as mighty as god because God is universial, and he's inclined to all, your being is more inclined to an Earth Realm and lighting , and doesn't care about anything that is beyond the earth realm or lighting.
Think about it, who's better to be God, a guy who only cares about Earth Realm or a God who can run everything including the earth realm. He has to be all encompassing and not just inclined to specific things.
southpark123secret 10 months ago
@mad8london247 He's the General God, not the Specialized God. That's a key point so try making another being and i'll analyze him.
southpark123secret 10 months ago
@southpark123secret
There is no god. If you want people to believe that your god is real, then produce evidence that your god is real and Thor is not real.
NaomiChambers 10 months ago
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southpark123secret 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers Here's one thing you use. You presuppose the existence of multiple beings that claim to have the same attributes of God equally existent as God himself. There is only 1 God, why do you have to say that other beings are equally likely to exist. If like another myth has a character that has almost the same attributes as God, then why not call him God.
I believe different humanity have corrupted his attributes and built him partners, making God into Zeus and Thor.
southpark123secret 10 months ago
@NaomiChambers and here is proof that he exists. Look at design in the universe. God designed this universe so that it could be. You know why the Big Bang theory is being contended by scientists. Because they want to get rid of the fact of a fine tuner in this universe who had to make the big bang possible.
Many Physicists adopted the multiverse theory where different big bangs kept banging until one got it right to get the right mathematical equations.Modern Physicists sway us from design.
southpark123secret 10 months ago
Well, North America has a high rise of Autism, now its 1 in 150 chance . Naomi, who are worse, Austic people or muslims inbred from Cousin marriage?
papasmurfXXX 11 months ago
@papasmurfXXX
That is irrelevant.
Apples and Oranges.
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
@NaomiChambers Oh, because it's an unrelated disease.
papasmurfXXX 11 months ago
@NaomiChambers no one knows what's the cause, but they're both disorders that affect cognitive development. Personally, i haven't seen any Muslim defected children. Instaed, the children are like rebels that always fight with you and don't play by the rules, i see that among Arabs instead of drooling. Malaysians and Indonesians are recently converted nations so nothing yet....
Pakistanis, i don't recall any mental disorders, i myself is compared stupid to all my paki friends. Physical, maybe.
papasmurfXXX 11 months ago
@papasmurfXXX
I recommend that you read each and every peer reviewed article posted in the video description box before you claim " no one knows the cause ". The reason is simple - the scientists are all saying you are wrong.
These are people who studied for 10-15 years in their discipline. You are saying that you know more about genetics than they do.
After you finished reading, we can continue this discussion.
good bye
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
First cousins are only on high risk of having a baby with birth deffects when they do it on second, third generations not first ones
davlor86 11 months ago
@davlor86
When did you finish reading all the peer reviewed, scientific articles published in the video description box?
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
@NaomiChambers Yes, but still dosn't convince me. I know personally a first cousins couple and they have 2 normal biological children, their daughter is actually straight A student in school and i'm really sure there are more people like this in the world.On the other hand pakistanies have that problem of having babies with birth deffects because they usually remarry their cousins.
davlor86 11 months ago
@davlor86
You said you read all those articles.
you are a liar.
blocked
i do not appreciate liars.
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
@NaomiChambers hahahahahahahahaha WHINER!
davlor89 11 months ago
@davlor89
I accept all kinds of honest comments, especially from people who have different opinions.
But i do not accept people who lie. You said you read all those peer reviewed articles listed. I think you are lying.
If you believe in God, then you know that you commit a sin by lying dont you?
Do not lie anymore.
NaomiChambers 11 months ago
You mentioned Einstein married his first cousin ; however, you failed to mention Einstein was a PRODUCT of incest.-- if I am not wrong, his parents were cousins. What are your comments on how that may have affected his intelligence?
ULTRAGABACHO 1 year ago
@ULTRAGABACHO
His father Hermann Einstein was from Ulmm German. His mother was Pauline Koch was from Cannstatt, Württemberg. Paulines parents were Julius Doerzbacher and Jette Bernheimer.
Hermann Einstein's parents were Abraham and Helene Einstein. Julius, Jette were not the brother or sister of Hermann and Pauline.
Albert Einstein was NOT a product of first cousin marriage.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
You're husband's name is Spinozaspsyche. Ha! Spinoza was a foolish pantheist.
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
Who cares.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
what does that have to do with this video?
I block people for posting irrelevant comments. If you have something to say about this video, or if you read all the peer reviewed articles in this video and would like to add something, feel free to do so.
Pantheism is irrelevant
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers ouch
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers okay why would you block people posting irrelevant comments? Isn't it better for your youtube channel to have any comments at all?I mean, youtube has a rank called "the most discussed " section, therefore the more irrelavent comments , or any comment in general makes the video more popular. Then more people will have a chance to find out about your channel. I just hate why people delete hater/troll comments.It's 5 years, you got no chance for a million subs,take all hate you need.
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
I block people for posting irrelevant comments because the irrelevant comments are not making any contribution to the video
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers I mean, whenever i have haters come on my video. I let them feed off of me, i don't block people because youtube is goanna die soon. I'm just an attention whore :) I only wanted to be known on youtube.
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
Do what you want on your videos.
This is my video. I will do what I want on my videos
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers and which of your videos may i discuss pantheism, and the broader topic? Ofcourse not, they're just about bashing Islam, personal stuff, other and being a Polyglot. Where do you find these articles? Okay i may have to do my own scientific census. It's time consuming to find all these sources.
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
Find some video on youtube about pantheism and comment on it.
That is what you do.
Of course it is time consuming to read peer reviewed articles. But that is how people learn. Education is never easy. If it is easy, then you are probably not really learning.
You may comment AFTER you read the peer reviewed articles.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
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@NaomiChambers Evidence That Cousin Marriage Causes High IQ, Prodigy and Birth Enhancements.
"I read it up, all it is is based off of Mendelian genetics. This is not evidence of birth defects, but instead you can say the Muslims got the worst recessiveness set of alleles. remember, Naomichambers, you didn't take up the counter argument of Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence. They incested, so why are they not low iq'ued and retarded? "
Trust me, cousin marriage has it's up sides too.
TheAmazingMonotheist 11 months ago
Naomichambers, this is an extraneous question, do Muslims and Christians have the same god ? I mean you're a non-muslim Islamic Scholar, you should know. Illuminati will rule the whole world, Muslims are side by. 9/11 was an inside job, stop trying to attack GOD, God of Muhammad, God of Jesus, God of the universe, the lord of the worlds, the one who existed since the beggining. This is what's it's all about and you throw this whole concept because you are threatened by Muhammad's succession.
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
This video is about the peer reviewed articles cited in the video description box.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
Evidence That Cousin Marriage Causes High IQ, Prodigy and Birth Enhancements.
I read it up, all it is is based off of Mendelian genetics. This is not evidence of birth defects, but instead you can say the Muslims got the worst recessiveness set of alleles. remember, Naomichambers, you didn't take up the counter argument of Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence. They incested, so why are they not low iq'ued and retarded?
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
@StopPanSlavicLies
Did you read the articles in the video description box?
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
Cousin marriage is INCEST it has to be banned in the whole world, its sick
lollywoodchannel 1 year ago
And I dont see any ill effect .
I am not suspecting a foul play or a dishonest approach in your or the researchers findings.
My intelligence suspects that there findings might have flaws.
There are many things which are propagated into our minds that we start believing in the SURETY of things which only have a possibility of being true.
I think the best example is "Theory of Evolution" , its just a theory, not with enough proofs, but the way its discussed fools an unsuspecting person
najafzaidi 1 year ago
@najafzaidi
I recommend you read all the articles. Many Muslim scientists around the world disagree with you.
Cousin Marriage is harmful to children, especially for people from Pakistan.
The good news, is that these people are slowly beginning to change their behavior. Changing tradition is difficult. But they are slowly accepting why their children are sick.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
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into believing that it is 100% TRUTH.
Don't you agree with - "This observations are scientific and might help in PREDICTING something PROBABILISTICALLY but not for sure ."
regards,
Najaf
najafzaidi 1 year ago
hey Naomi,
I find it hard to accept that cousins marrying is dangerous for the coming generation.
Mainly for two reasons ->
1- Its permitted in Islam ( Prophet Mohammad s.a.w married to his cousin and married his daughter Fatima a.s to his cousin Ali a.s) , so anything permitted and practiced by prophet himself cannot be dangerous or harmful in general.
2- This "inbreeding"has been practiced among the Syeds of India , I being one of them, for more than 1000 years.
najafzaidi 1 year ago
@najafzaidi
When the Quran was written, and when Muhammad lived, they did not know about DNA or recessive genes. We have a lot more knowledge about the world today than humans did 1400 years ago.
It is better to come to conclusions about what is good or bad based on the scientific research. This means - use evidence, not faith.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers I agree with you
lollywoodchannel 1 year ago
@najafzaidi Why do we have to follow something Prophet Mohammad did years ago? now we have advance science which tells us that its dangerous to marry our cousins not only that but your cousins share the same DNA as you so its like marrying your own brother or sister
COUSIN MARRIAGE SHOULD BE BANNED IN THE WHOLE WORLD
lollywoodchannel 1 year ago
Hi Naomi,
my bad , I was lazy enough to avoid reading the articles/studies.
Nevertheless, I will continue to hold what I believe , but will also keep in mind the possibilities pointed by you. ( At least until, I feel very strongly to defend my opinion)
Do you actually see/believe the the various researches took care of the countless things ? Don't you agree with - "This observations are scientific and might help in PREDICTING something PROBABILISTICALLY but not for sure ."
bye,
Najaf
najafzaidi 1 year ago
@najafzaidi
What belief are you holding?
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
wow, you work really hard !
I trust you when you say that such and such study has been done, but even if there are thousands of such study , what's important is how extensive these researches have been.
for example what was the sample size ?
studying about thousands of cases and inferring from that for billions might be probable but not 100% true !
Have other factors been taken into account - what medicines were prescribed to the pregnant woman( if any) ?
najafzaidi 1 year ago
@najafzaidi
The sample size, case studies, and all the factors taken into account are published in each peer reviewed case study.
To answer you questions, simply go to the video description box.
Once you obtain all the articles and carefully read them, you will have all of your questions answered.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
Was the diet of pregnant women balanced ?
Even the basic things like type of water and weather could have an effect on child's birth .
What is the pollen concentration in the region ?
etc.
When a study is being done, the researchers are seeing a consequence and ASSUMING the thing which might have kick started it. This is scientific and might help in PREDICTING something PROBABILISTICALLY but not for sure ...
najafzaidi 1 year ago
@najafzaidi
You must read the case studies in order to answer these questions. The are all scientific, and peer reviewed. So you will have to read each and every one of them on your own time.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
For example if the most common prescribed medicine in middle east has some adverse effect on the people living in their conditions (weather and all), then all the findings would lead to flawed reasoning !!
My advice is that you look up for a research where a difference is seen among people of same region , same social status, diet etc.. but with a tradition of marrying/ not marrying cousins.
najafzaidi 1 year ago
@najafzaidi
You will have to read all the articles. Many of the authors are Muslims who live in that part of the world.
It will take you a few days to get all the articles. But after you read all of them, you will have your questions answered.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
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BnhghuNbhghy 1 year ago
Like in Thailand there was a Thai king that was reported to do mass incest and like i guess the family their was like okay, cause this is totally dependant on reccessive allelles, and reccessive dominants always switch back and forth. Short-Bone Dwarfism swithces around many times.... where they found it come in both reccessive and dominant....
Naomi chambers if a Far Gene pool makes a healtheir child, what about the dominant ones?
Black person - White person makes a black baby though...
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
Genes are weird cause one scenario they had this group of Nordic looking people somewhere in Afghanistan and that they were incested..... but that's before they had like some thing darkening affect that happened, Like Tajiks are all mixed up and afghans say they have sucky traits, and So are Urbanized Pashtuns that looked all mixed up, like in Jalalabad..... or maybe it's a founder's effect i don't know. hhhmmm..... I'm just speaking in a Eugenics frontier i'm not deffending Islam, statin incest
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
Also i know some Afghan families who have had biologically more fit children who were smarter and more tough.. their children was incested (cousin marriage) , while the ones that mixed with other groups tended to have sucky biological standards cause they were darker and short. It's this race mixing effect, an afghan told me, cause in Urban cities people tended to mix around look uniform and the same, while in rural areas the incested people looked nordic...
I'm a Eugenics guy, not speakin Islam
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
Okay Naomi chambers , Jews are Smart and they cousin marriaged all the time
Here's an article with the same title....
Ashkenazi intelligence, search that up, Ashkenazis incested way more than Muslims so why is their IQ alot high???? the highest recorded by them was 200.....
and also Cousin marriage is only bad between recessive alleles, only recessive alleles, there are many diseases that come the same way expressed as dominant. Incest is based on Mendelian genetics,
StopPanSlavicLies 1 year ago
Oh dear, longwinded trollbait.
Why do I even bother to commit to research?
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DoleeGave 1 year ago
Cousin marriage is not a muslim issue. it is legal in most (if not all, I have not done a survey) countries in the West. I am no arab apologist but to state that cousin marriage is an islamic issue simply shows that the author has an innate anti islamic bias. Why dont we argue that being blue eyed is bad for children because blue eyed people indulge in cousin marriage.
The so called research of the lady posting this is of less inerest that the drool of a one year old
vvanderer 1 year ago
@vvanderer
In modern times, sadly cousin marriage is a Muslim issue. In the video description box, I published a list of peer reviewed essays. These essays discuss cousin marriage amongst many people, not just Muslims. Did you miss that part?
It is clear that you never read the essays and most likely.... you lack the mental capacity to do so. Maybe you should drool like a 1 year old? At least that is something you can do.
And we know you are a Muslim
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers ni naomi i m a born muslim and i m a doctor too.......with gaining of knowledge now i know that i m a proud atheist.......and this is for imran .....fckya
haluakhan 1 year ago
@haluakhan
I am glad to hear it.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
You mentioned that Jews eventually figured things out and stopped their behavior. Interestingly, cousin marriage is still prevalent amongst Hareidi Jews in Israel. Perhaps being surrounded by Muslim countries has more influence on Israel than it would like to believe.
What is worse is that often the children that do suffer disabilities as a result of cousin marriage are married off to one another because they're not considered suitable mates for anyone else which, needless to say, is a bad idea.
MichalCosta 1 year ago
@MichalCosta
You know - I believe you. Certain orthodox Jews probably do continue cousin marriage.
The Jewish people I was referring to were the European Jews, mostly Polish, Russian and Hungarian.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
I believe it is incumbent upon all of us to discern those things in the Torah, Bible, Koran or any other ancient religious writings which are not in keeping with the knowledge we now possess, especially in reference of our medical knowledge. Those who believe it’s ‘okay’ to procreate with their first cousins are living in the dark ages and quality of their lives, their communities, prove this statement is true.
pilotpoodle 1 year ago
This is awesome, I knew those crazy muslims were retarded as well.
FiveZylinderRacing 1 year ago
@FiveZylinderRacing And you're not?
Xdude619 1 year ago
Apparently there are still some people who live in the 'dark ages'. One book I would recommend that some of you guys read is "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel P. Huntington. IMHO, the book gives good insight into what the West is up against with regard to Islam.
specificgravity 1 year ago
Apparently there are still some people who lie in the 'dark ages'. One book I would recommend that some of you guys read is "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel P. Huntington. IMHO, the book gives good insight into what the West is up against with regard to Islam.
specificgravity 1 year ago
Interesting that almost all non-Muslim Africa is "unknown". were the researchers just not interested? or did they make this map by compiling others' statistics and there weren't any for those countries? Or was the rate really low? or was the rate higher than Muslim countries, and might muddy the point against Islam? I'd really love to know.
Lily2U1515 1 year ago
@Lily2U1515
The papers are in the video description box. I am not sure if you had a chance to read each one of them yet. But the researchers, many of them, were Muslims.
The only non-Muslim groups who did intermarry were Jews and some Hindus in India. The hindus practiced uncle-niece marriages.
Cousin marriage was also common in Christianity.
The only reason Christians stopped was for cultural reasons.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
If this were the case, why would royal families inter-marry within their family circle?
SirianKings 1 year ago
@SirianKings
The reason´s royal families would inter marry was to maintain what they considered to be ´royal blood´. This was a common practice in ancient Egypt.
Remember, we are talking about modern scientific knowledge. Royalty suffered consequences as well for their behavior. Since they are so few in number, and the close inbreeding was so long ago, it is nearly impossible to do a study. Typically royal marriages were arranged for economic reasons.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@NaomiChambers
You do understand that the so-called "elite" of this world are still inter-marrying to this date?
SirianKings 1 year ago
@SirianKings
Whom? This would be a good study. Because if they marry siblings, then they will suffer the same consequences as all the others.
so, who are these people specifically you know about
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apeesoreca 1 year ago
I disagree with this video; my uncle married his cousin and he has 4 girls: One in med school, one who just graduated from university studing accountancy, one who has just started university studying medicine after getting 99.4% in her exams and one who is very smart and gets 100% in almost every exam at school. Also, Islam does not hurt Muslims; it gives Muslims the choice of whether or not they wish to marry their cousins; not force it upon them.
mohamadaqil 1 year ago
@mohamadaqil
Your uncle may very well have 4 smart daughters. You may want to google the question, "What is Anecdotal Evidence." I would also recommend reading all the peer reviewed articles listed in the video description box. They will explain in great detail the science involved.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago
@mohamadaqil Why is it no surprise to me that with a screen-name like "mohamadaqil" that you have inbreeding in your family.
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