Communion during Novus Ordo Mass at St. Patrick's in Auckland

[MyBetty111]

Lay people have NO business handing out communion. This is Protestant!

[MyBetty111]

It is not necessary to have all those lay women EMHO.

This is abuse. The number of people in the church does

not warrant this. EMHO should be abolished anyway. It is

a Protestant concoction, very evangelical looking, not

part of Catholic tradition. Very disturbing. I would NEVER

receive from a EMHO. Never.

[crestphoto]

It is LOGICAL to me that the BODY & BLOOD of Christ should have better respect. Period.

[MyBetty111]

All those women lay ministers distributing wine (Communion) to parishoners. Is this necessary? The number of people in the church does not seem to warrant this. These womenh are just playing priest. What is worse, they are not wearing any sort of liturgical garb, just pedestrian street clothes. This looks like a Protestant hybrid Mass. Very sad. Would you see this in an Orthodox church? Not on your life! Obviously the Catholic Church has fallen into some sort of apostasy. Very, very sad.

[2groomer]

Thave it remain here was NO Pope who was Ever in Favor of Communion in the hand...Research..It started with Disobedient bishops from Belgium I believe without the knowledge of Pope Paul VI.When he learned this, he called all bishops to Rome where they all voted to keep it ON THE TONGUE! Same thing with liberal bishops with Lay distributors and girls prancing around the altar, where vocations to the priesthood were often the beginning for MALE servers! Attend the Latin Mass near you !

[s216674]

In the GIRM specifically for the United States, the USCCB has written in that the ordinary method of receiving Holy Communion is via standing but that it is perfectly acceptable to kneel if one desires. The Holy Father has stated that he prefers kneeling but has also acknowledged that this is not Canon Law or a Papal Bull but merely his preference and that the Bishops are free to do as they like regarding this. The Eastern Church all stand from my understanding both Orthodox and Catholic.

[osiarap]

Let them all go to hell for not receiving the communion the way we think! How's that? Go to hell for not kneeling. But go to heaven for kneeling. I think that's fair enough. How's that?

[Pynosarus]

Also faith does not come from the Magisterium only. It comes also from lived human experience, literary discourse and tradition. That accounts why my opinion differs from yours. So please all of you stop trying to play ball in the big league - when its so obvious you belong with the amateurs in the little league!!

[Pynosarus]

Ok enough is enough Please stop replying to me as you are not going to change where I stand. I have a Masters Degree in Theology - your theories have such obvious flaws its comical. The Papacy is in communion with Dioceses not in control of them - Bishops have autonomy when it comes to certain decisions and the right to use the Paul VI Mass exclusively is still one of them and there is no intent to change that!!

[sungmoon1987]

Catholicism is not about what you like or dislike. It is about faith through the church, given to us by Christ at our baptism. Remember when the priest asked us what we want from the church, and what we want from Christ. They were Faith and Baptism. They will profit us life everlasting. Faith comes from our bishops, and from the Holy Father; not from what you like or dislike. It is not like we can pick and choose, and we should not.

[Pynosarus]

@sungmoon1987 Firstly you didn't need to reply with 2 posts to get your point across to me, secondly I will agree to disagree with you. Catholicism in Ireland is quite liberal and that's the way I like it!!

[sungmoon1987]

@Pynosarus Catholicism is not about what you like or dislike. It is about faith through the church, given to us by Christ at our baptism. Remember when the priest asked us what we want from the church, and what we want from Christ. They were Faith and Baptism. They will profit us life everlasting. Faith comes from our bishops, and from the Holy Father; not from what you like or dislike. It is not like we can pick and choose, and we should not.

[LouisvilleTorn8o]

I have some bad news for you Pynosarus...The tides are turning in the Church, and soon and very soon my friend, I believe that there will be a major Vatican crackdown on liberalism in the Church, AKA Modernism. The Papacy has powers that it hasn't used in years, and it may be time for those powers to be used again. The Pope can easily take complete control of a dioces that is running rampant with heresies.

[Pynosarus]

It's not going to end and I am quite glad that it won't . As a Parish Liturgist I have done research on Liturgical reform and I believe firmly in making Liturgies more a part of the faith community and accessible to those attending. If someone has to kneel to receive Communion it is alienating them from the presence of the Lord. The host should be held up to eye level of the standing communicant - not pushed down towards them while kneeling. It allows them to see and become one with Christ!!

[LouisvilleTorn8o]

@Pynosarus From what I understand, if someone neals to receive our Lord, noone, not even a bishop, can deny them the Blessed Sacrament.

[sungmoon1987]

@LouisvilleTorn8o You are correct, and thank God for that!

[sungmoon1987]

@Pynosarus This view of yours is good, but it is only one view and it is'nt the tradition of the catholic church to stand whilst receiving communion in the hand. The tradition of our catholic church has been to receive on the tongue as the normative form, and that kneeling is also too. The reason why I state that you express only one view, is that we must also show respect to the Lord, and that in this day and age it is still respectful to kneel as a show of adoration and reverence.

[sungmoon1987]

@Pynosarus This practise of the Catholic Church to kneel is in direct comparison to the respect we show to other monarchs which act as sovereign. It is common knowledge that if one were to meet HM Queen Elizabeth as sovereign of NZ, one is to kneel or to bow. Therefore, how much reverence must one show in respect to meeting God at the altar? As such, it's with respect and adoration through action, love in one's heart, and the idea which you express as "see and become one with Christ" by kneeling

[LouisvilleTorn8o]

@sungmoon1987 And we're not talking about just any king here. We're talking about the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the Almighty in the flesh, the one who suffered and died on the cross for us. We should give him the utmost respect and adoration, especially when we receive him in the Blessed Sacrament.

[sungmoon1987]

@LouisvilleTorn8o Amen.