I think the first clue that it would be radioactive would be the word THORIUM.
You didn't record the ambient radiation, duh. And, more importantly, is it at a dangerous level? I doubt it.
Did you know that you may have green colored glass in your home now that is radioactive? It was Uranium oxide and legal until 1948 to use to color glass. So, if you have an old glass antique, it may be spitting out a bit of radio waves.
I would not recommend breathing in the smoke from these mantles.
@macgyver2210 It's a GammaScout handheld dosimeter. The units it's displaying in the video are millirems, but it can also be set to display microsieverts.
Alpha in small doses is harmless. beta and gamma are dangerus... avoid contact with gamma and beta rays at all costs unless you like radiation pois0ning
@iToasterman Alpha is dangerous as well. As long as it's outside of your body you can keep a safe distance. But once you inhale or eat a small particles you'll find it hard to do that.
@iToasterman It isn't gamma or beta, but the specific radioactivity of the source which is the problem. My potassium salt, which I eat, emits beta radiation. I can detect 73 CPM from my can of potassium salt too. lol
It is not just the radiation, but the amount and the time.
Nice! 5/5! Nice Gamma Scout! It measures alpha, unlike mine. Most don't. I don't have any thorium mantles. I collect radioactive materials. Inhalation is usually the worst. Also, lot of people take radiation too serious. The strongest source I have so far is a Radium disc, and it emits ~1milliSievert/hr of radiation, measuring beta and gamma ONLY. It PEGS the needle on my CDV-7006b on X100 mode with the beta shield open. Ra-226 decays by alpha to Rn-222. The T-1/2 of Ra-226 is ~1602 years.
@KhmerD0g the number is a cummulative average over a certain time i.e. a minute, the longer the sample time, the more accurate the average. eventually the level will become reletively constant when the sample interval is reached
The only time they're really going to hurt you is if you happened to eat them. :P
And even then, they wouldn't be doing much.
Odds are, your lantern probably doesn't even have radioactive mantles. Most are specifically marked as non-radioactive, and I don't think Coleman even makes radioactive mantles anymore.
The box the mantles come in will ALWAYS have some sort of warning on it, or maybe even in it.
my lantern is a compact lantern idk if it by Coleman but the glass says schott suprax but i use Coleman Mantles the top of the Mantle it was pink but when i bruned the Mantle it trun pink after bruning it it trun wite. when i burn the Mantle it stinks
Well, if the mantles are Coleman, odds are they're not radioactive.
And even if they were radioactive, there wouldn't really be anything to worry about unless you suddenly take up the habit of eating lanterns. :P
BTW, my regular gas camping lantern's mantles don't exactly smell pleasant when I burn them, I think it just works that way, and some start out pink because of a coating of silk on the outside.
@crazybeavers155 Only if you place it next to one of those starter cartidges for neon lights because they have Polonium which interacts with the Thorium... ha ha
@AltitudeWarrior what ?Only if you place it next to one of those starter cartidges for neon lights because they have Polonium which interacts with the Thorium... ha ha what the hell are you on about? polonium? where is the polonium? are you talking rubbish or are you actually serious?...if so...explain...I've never heard of polonium in any form inside a neon transformer
Looks slightly alarming. But always light the mantles for the first time outside the home. How much beta and alpha radiation passes through the glass of the lamp? Not a lot, I would guess.
I doubt any of the alpha or beta radiation would pass through the glass. And the gamma radiation that comes as a byproduct of alpha emissions and of some of Thorium's daughter decay products would not even be a noticeable change above background "cosmic" radiation.
The Radiation from Thorium mantles are quite low, but close contact for long periods of time can be dangerous, but these mantles mainly emit Alpha and Beta particles, which are much less penetrating than Gamma or X-Rays. It Is A nice video though! Learning is the key to become someone great... 10+
Yes, technically. The 'damage' from ionizing rays such as those emitted from radioactive materials is cumulative, meaning, the more you are exposed to, the more likely they are to cause some sort of damage.
The small amounts of the rays here are such that it is not likely that I would have any kind of damage done. However, there still is that slight chance that thay may mutate genes or create cancerous cells.
are they hard to get in the united states? I thought they were redily available all around the world, in New Zealand, we can get them very easily. Try health food stores, they are your best bet.
...also those mantles are likely to be 'new old stock' and will have been on the shelf in the store for a few years, they are made 'non-radioactive' now and for at least the last few years.
Mantles give out around the same radiation as watch face illuminant.
The effect of radiation on biological tissues is measured in millirems (mrem). An individual's exposure to radiation in using a gas mantle is almost infinitesimal compared with the radiation that he or she receives every day from natural sources just by being outside. This environmental radiation is estimated at 100 mrem. Sources of this radiation are cosmic, external terrestrial and radionuclides within the body itself.
Here we are pretty opened about things which are radioactive, so if i taken a counter into the store they wouldn't say anything. But i guess over there is pretty different. I have been looking for some Thorium mantles by coleman, but i couldn't find any, my family used to use it in the past.
Yeh, you CAN buy these at most hardware stores. My suggestion, discreetly bring your geiger counter inside with you (ie: hide in your pocket). Then look for a small orange box amongst other lantern mantles labelled "Aladdin". I'll be putting up a page about these mantles on my website soon. Find the link in my channel page.
I think the first clue that it would be radioactive would be the word THORIUM.
You didn't record the ambient radiation, duh. And, more importantly, is it at a dangerous level? I doubt it.
Did you know that you may have green colored glass in your home now that is radioactive? It was Uranium oxide and legal until 1948 to use to color glass. So, if you have an old glass antique, it may be spitting out a bit of radio waves.
I would not recommend breathing in the smoke from these mantles.
southernrain1000 4 months ago
It's the radiation from the burnt mantle dust which is the danger.
HexamineSmoke 8 months ago
lol Good job! I always wanted to run my GM over a latern mant. but I never got the chance.
antiprotons 10 months ago
what meter are you using? what units are those readings in?
macgyver2210 11 months ago
@macgyver2210 It's a GammaScout handheld dosimeter. The units it's displaying in the video are millirems, but it can also be set to display microsieverts.
JeremyBechen 11 months ago
Alpha in small doses is harmless. beta and gamma are dangerus... avoid contact with gamma and beta rays at all costs unless you like radiation pois0ning
iToasterman 1 year ago
@iToasterman Alpha is dangerous as well. As long as it's outside of your body you can keep a safe distance. But once you inhale or eat a small particles you'll find it hard to do that.
MillyVanillification 11 months ago
@MillyVanillification no were near as dangerus as gama :s ganma knifes are worse....
iToasterman 11 months ago
@iToasterman It isn't gamma or beta, but the specific radioactivity of the source which is the problem. My potassium salt, which I eat, emits beta radiation. I can detect 73 CPM from my can of potassium salt too. lol
It is not just the radiation, but the amount and the time.
antiprotons 8 months ago
@antiprotons True
iToasterman 8 months ago
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kalfass 1 year ago
Most people think that these mantles only contain a trace amount of thorium. The truth is that the ash can be made of almost pure thorium dioxide ;)
plutoniumiscool 1 year ago
Nice! 5/5! Nice Gamma Scout! It measures alpha, unlike mine. Most don't. I don't have any thorium mantles. I collect radioactive materials. Inhalation is usually the worst. Also, lot of people take radiation too serious. The strongest source I have so far is a Radium disc, and it emits ~1milliSievert/hr of radiation, measuring beta and gamma ONLY. It PEGS the needle on my CDV-7006b on X100 mode with the beta shield open. Ra-226 decays by alpha to Rn-222. The T-1/2 of Ra-226 is ~1602 years.
KarbineKyle 2 years ago
why is the number increasing? shouldn't it be constant?
KhmerD0g 2 years ago
@KhmerD0g the number is a cummulative average over a certain time i.e. a minute, the longer the sample time, the more accurate the average. eventually the level will become reletively constant when the sample interval is reached
erjohnson227 1 year ago
subbed m8 ;)
JaksProductions 2 years ago
so can those Mantles
harm us because now i fel like breaking my lantern
crazybeavers155 2 years ago
The only time they're really going to hurt you is if you happened to eat them. :P
And even then, they wouldn't be doing much.
Odds are, your lantern probably doesn't even have radioactive mantles. Most are specifically marked as non-radioactive, and I don't think Coleman even makes radioactive mantles anymore.
The box the mantles come in will ALWAYS have some sort of warning on it, or maybe even in it.
JeremyBechen 2 years ago
my lantern is a compact lantern idk if it by Coleman but the glass says schott suprax but i use Coleman Mantles the top of the Mantle it was pink but when i bruned the Mantle it trun pink after bruning it it trun wite. when i burn the Mantle it stinks
crazybeavers155 2 years ago
Well, if the mantles are Coleman, odds are they're not radioactive.
And even if they were radioactive, there wouldn't really be anything to worry about unless you suddenly take up the habit of eating lanterns. :P
BTW, my regular gas camping lantern's mantles don't exactly smell pleasant when I burn them, I think it just works that way, and some start out pink because of a coating of silk on the outside.
JeremyBechen 2 years ago
ok thanks for telling me and i dont eat lantens =P
crazybeavers155 2 years ago
@JeremyBechen lulz
walkbla99 1 year ago
@crazybeavers155 Only if you place it next to one of those starter cartidges for neon lights because they have Polonium which interacts with the Thorium... ha ha
AltitudeWarrior 1 year ago
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@AltitudeWarrior what ?Only if you place it next to one of those starter cartidges for neon lights because they have Polonium which interacts with the Thorium... ha ha what the hell are you on about? polonium? where is the polonium? are you talking rubbish or are you actually serious?...if so...explain...I've never heard of polonium in any form inside a neon transformer
psycronizer 4 months ago
Looks slightly alarming. But always light the mantles for the first time outside the home. How much beta and alpha radiation passes through the glass of the lamp? Not a lot, I would guess.
Palifiox 2 years ago
I doubt any of the alpha or beta radiation would pass through the glass. And the gamma radiation that comes as a byproduct of alpha emissions and of some of Thorium's daughter decay products would not even be a noticeable change above background "cosmic" radiation.
JeremyBechen 2 years ago
That is where i bought most of my stuff from, but our ace hardware doesn't have mantles.
UAEchemist 2 years ago
The Radiation from Thorium mantles are quite low, but close contact for long periods of time can be dangerous, but these mantles mainly emit Alpha and Beta particles, which are much less penetrating than Gamma or X-Rays. It Is A nice video though! Learning is the key to become someone great... 10+
KarbineKyle 2 years ago
are the rays from the mantle bad for you?
pow0006 3 years ago
Yes, technically. The 'damage' from ionizing rays such as those emitted from radioactive materials is cumulative, meaning, the more you are exposed to, the more likely they are to cause some sort of damage.
The small amounts of the rays here are such that it is not likely that I would have any kind of damage done. However, there still is that slight chance that thay may mutate genes or create cancerous cells.
JeremyBechen 3 years ago
Cool. Looks like you're getting some nice hits off those mantles. I gotta buy some. =D
brainburrito 3 years ago
what is that like 232? uhmm... has anybody ever heard of like "weapons grade PbBi alloy," or am i just pulling this shit out of myass?
SymAmineC8H11N 3 years ago
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RE4central 3 years ago
Thanks for the constructive critisiscm, ass.
The video's not meant for people like you. It's meant for people who are interested in this stuff. Obviously, not you.
JeremyBechen 3 years ago
can you test brazil nuts? ive heard those are supposed to be radioactive too! And we eat them? lol
nzoomed 3 years ago
I'm not sure where I can get my hands on Brazil nuts, but, believe me, I've had my eyes open for them for a long time. :D
JeremyBechen 3 years ago
are they hard to get in the united states? I thought they were redily available all around the world, in New Zealand, we can get them very easily. Try health food stores, they are your best bet.
nzoomed 3 years ago
...also those mantles are likely to be 'new old stock' and will have been on the shelf in the store for a few years, they are made 'non-radioactive' now and for at least the last few years.
IainiaI 3 years ago
@IainiaI I guess they use zinc oxide or calcium oxide. Can anyone confirm?
vmelkon 1 year ago
Mantles give out around the same radiation as watch face illuminant.
The effect of radiation on biological tissues is measured in millirems (mrem). An individual's exposure to radiation in using a gas mantle is almost infinitesimal compared with the radiation that he or she receives every day from natural sources just by being outside. This environmental radiation is estimated at 100 mrem. Sources of this radiation are cosmic, external terrestrial and radionuclides within the body itself.
IainiaI 3 years ago
I have pretty much all the books you been reading. Except green ham something, don't remember what that was. Your missing out on Deadly dial glow.
nitrex 3 years ago
Hehe, Green Eggs and Ham is a children's book by Dr. Seuss. I put in my profile as a joke. :D
And yeah, I know, I haven't been able to find a copy of Deadly Dial Glow.
JeremyBechen 3 years ago
I have a book shelf with other 100 books, so i got pretty much a lot of them.
nitrex 3 years ago
Here we are pretty opened about things which are radioactive, so if i taken a counter into the store they wouldn't say anything. But i guess over there is pretty different. I have been looking for some Thorium mantles by coleman, but i couldn't find any, my family used to use it in the past.
nitrex 3 years ago
Yeh, you CAN buy these at most hardware stores. My suggestion, discreetly bring your geiger counter inside with you (ie: hide in your pocket). Then look for a small orange box amongst other lantern mantles labelled "Aladdin". I'll be putting up a page about these mantles on my website soon. Find the link in my channel page.
JeremyBechen 3 years ago