F1 Hockenheim overtaking 1997

[quipzz]

Todays Tilkenheim is sooo crap compared to the good old Highspeedmekka Hockenheimring!

[Mega007007007007]

jan is still a top driver and have many victorys true the years !!

[Darkapprentice71]

Hockenheim was good, but you have to admit; it was basically a carbon copy of Monza.

[EJ25RUN]

that sounds like Tom Kristenson announcing.

[TheShepster80]

Imagine if that arrows had a renault or merc engine. That car would have been right up there with the front runners.

[superjan101079]

Man F1 truly was fun to watch back in those days.

[lotwyo]

This track was too dangerous. We don't want drivers dying anymore, so we need safer circuits, and the old Hockhenheim track doesn't suit that level of exigence.

[darthbandon10]

@lotwyo When was the last time anyone died there? I don't recall any Hockenheim racing deaths in the last 30 years...

The track was dangerous when the opening section was flat-out, without the chicane posthumously named after Jim Clark.

[holden0001]

back when f1 drivers used to race eachother

[hisatennis]

this circuit needs to be back.

[darthbandon10]

Correction "Jan Magnussen overtaking Norberto Fontana after spending half the lap on his rear wing, while Hill passes on the other side" :p

[muulka]

@mchngwa63 Valid points, but why do you ppl all hate Tilke's circuits? The drivers like them.... Surely that's the most important?

[muulka]

@mchngwa63 I know that, but bad things can always happen.... Really Senna wouldn't be dead if the safety car hadn't come and made his tyres go cold, which is slightly ironic I suppose lol. Anyway, someone could have hit into a flying wing- a spring at just over 100 mph almost killed him, what about a rear wing at 200? Or spearing off into those trees... Plus at least some of the drivers didn't like it. Straights take no skill, and these years the teams with the Mercedes engines would always win.

[HJKLMGPU]

Well, Fontana's wheels were almost dead

[navnig]

i miss this circuit =(

[uudrakgvens94]

magnussen was a very promissing winning , sad that not was that good at the end

[harryspen]

is nat tom kristanson

[mackey12160204]

great battle.

[kzbxvz]

Really good racing action from the near past, please bring back the original Hockenheimring you German bastards lol!!

[alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Thank god they won't touch Spa. A shame Hockenheim has been butchered!! A good overtake Magnussen went at it more than once and found his way though.

[f1fan04]

Is that Tom Kristensen as a commentator ?

[HD2512DK]

@f1fan04 yes

[arthurotho]

Hill is the best.

[jakobpind]

Fantastic driving by a young Jan Magnussen, i used to watch F1 back then. Now a days it's just not the same. Hope to see his son, Kevin Magnussen in F1 one day, that would make me watch it again ! btw what happened to Kiesa ?

[Klootzak123]

those were the days of F1... sad but true

[jacbrest]

joli passe d armes entre ces 2pilotes!

[XxjennynjackxX]

I miss this circuit. Those blasts between chicanes were always facinating and a real challenge for the drivers. So often provided a great grand prix too. What is wrong with max and Bernie? They have defaced this circuit and many others like it. I just hope those plans for Spa don't go ahead.

[Michaelingolfhansen]

What are the plans for Spa?

[F1VideoFreak]

Spa wont be changed. There was a survey by fans to fans, because there were plans to change the track. But the survey persuaded the owners of the Track, although BE an MM wanted another track layout.

BTW: are you german?

[superava1982]

Me too...like Imola like zeltweng..like many circuits

[calumsensible]

@XxjennynjackxX what plans for spa? if they break it i will shoot to kill, although, the new bus stop chicane is an improvement as it allows passing.. but they better not screw it up like they screwed eau rouge. it used to be hard (say the drivers) but now its flat.

[muulka]

@XxjennynjackxX What if someone's wing failed at the end of the straight? that's the end of them....

[nothke]

@XxjennynjackxX aaaaaaaand Tilke!

[Grayqboufan]

we should boycott watching the tv broadcasts of the races on those new tracks. maybe that'll get max and bernie's attention.

[gunledstone]

aguante fontana . era su primer carrera en hockenheim

[Michaelingolfhansen]

Jan Magnussen was the biggest waste of talent in F1 in a long time!

And im not just saying that because im a dane!

He should have been more patient and stuck with McLaren...he could have had a great career in F1!

[svcxac]

I seem to recall Jackie Stewart saying Magnussen was a lazy guy and didn't give his all outside of the cockpit. Wasteful indeed. He blew the British F3 establishment apart with 14/18 wins in '94.

[ayrtonsenna1960]

jackie stewart also said he was senna like. i find it ashame jan did not do well

[DonBarne]

well the attitude that Jan Magnussen had, was smokin' and drinkin' in his sparetime... not like the other drivers who worked out and ate healthy... ah well... i just hate the fact that Jason Watt could've been even greater in F1

[IronChefPeter]

so what that he was drinking and smoking. It's motor racing not the Boston Marathon. Smoking makes you loose weight which is good in thins case.

[Michaelingolfhansen]

The demand for cardiovascular fitness in F1 is huge, for many reasons!

The working load fighting the huge g-forces, and the vacuum created around the driver making him breathe thin air, in a helmet with poor air circulation.

The last is most present of the straights were the speed is high and the drivers should be able to finally breathe freely!

And when I'm talking about breathing freely...

[Michaelingolfhansen]

...it's because they have to hold their breath in the corners and under braking, as they cant breathe at high g's!

So when they finally can breathe, it is vital that they can absorb as much Oxygen as POSSIBLE!

Thats some of the reasons why drivers have to be very, very fit, and why skipping your work-out and smoking is not a good idea!

I know the driving looks soooo relaxing when seen from the anti-shake-function onboard cameras, but it is all but relaxing!!!

[Desdirodeabike]

I heard that when Jan had a break from F1 in 96, he drove in the International Touring Car Championship. And people say that basically wrecked his driving style and natural feel for an F1 car. And when he returned to F1, he was still good but the sting and raw speed was gone.

[chipattack911]

well he's now a damn good corvette c6.r factory driver

[watanabehefuml]

@Desdirodeabike

he also entered the strongst man in the world competition and won

[Pompyroftw]

The FIA is dropping the good circuits because other countries are willing to pay ALOT more to get a Grand Prix. So yes now we're stuck with shitty circuits! How dare they to remove Silverstone and Imola and force the German organization to change the good old Hockenheimring into a terrible track!! KICK ECCLESTONE AND MOSLEY!!

[dannymida834]

You´re more then 100 % right.

[DJLauth]

I hear you! If i had all the money like Bernie i would make my own private leauge, call it " The World Championship of best Formula cars " Rebuild all the great tracks such as Hokenheim, Imola you name it and make the cars wide like back in the early 90's. It's not the tracks that where dangerous. It was the cars. Imola 94 with 2008 cars. Crashing at Tamburello it the same compared to Kubica Montreal 07. Sack FIA! A private leauge with good old tracks would do the trick in my opinion.

[doiwantsomerandom]

the old imola circuit looks quality its a shame i was too young to watch f1 wen it was about. and also i agree the new hockenheim is fuckin shit, the old 1 is the daddy of all circuits. but the new imola was shit so they made the right decision takin it off the caendar

[crosse07]

They absolutley destroyed this track..and the osterreich ring..nowadays we have to watch shit circuits like valencia,china,bahrain,singapo­re and more than likely this abu dhabi track will be terrible too...fota keep tryin to improve the 'spectacle' of f1,yet the best circuits on d calender keep getting dropped..no more imola or canada and silverstone gone in a year...bring back the good circuits!! :D

[hugh3sy7]

i love the old days, stupid absurd teams like simtek and forti

[thief1183]

Simtek weren't around in 97

[hugh3sy7]

Sorry Mr. Pedantic, but i said the olden days, not 97. I started watchin F1 in 1995 when i was a kid, which to me were the olden days.

[svcxac]

Simtek weren't an absurd team. They had a perty little car in '95 - Verstappen qualified it 13th at Monaco. They just ran out of cash from a difficult '94 season losing several chassis from crashes.

[egdoh]

Simtek would have been a goodish team but in there third race having Ratzenberger die was not much of a confidence boost

[anonimosuper]

k talk 2 you online!

O_o You're right! lol Doesnt even look like a girl.. XD lx

[GTAIVStuntProduction]

Wow Steward ford and Sauber petronas.. Back in the day :)

[mazey90]

Fontana and Magnussen are both wasted talents, they were so good in the junior catagories and just didnt get a fair chance in F1

[tbirderic]

The old Hockenheim with the long straights used to be my favorite F1 race.  I get so sad now when I see the ariel view and you can see the greenspace where the old track used to be.

[WWEhitmanDK]

what danish channel is this?

[mralanv]

i didnt have the chance to watch f1 in the 80's but i did get the great oportunity to take a look at the 90's and i find it was great. the 2000's will get better if they cut in the cars technology

[LightBull23]

OMG thats what i call racing great video!!

[lalangue]

Good old Hockenheim, I like the old track more.

[flipakine]

i agree long fast straight and hard braking for fast tight turns. i enjoyed that track alot more also

[africanjungle52]

wow

[stenovitz]

Great battle. Who is the co-commentator? Sounds a bit like Tom Kristensen?

[RHCPareGREAT]

Yeah, it's Tom Kristensen...

[sasuelquemero]

yes, he's in two categories:

an argentinian one, called "turismo nacional" and he's with mazzacane in FIA-GT, driving a ferrari

[sasuelquemero]

like all argentinians i miss the argentinians pilots in f1. but now it isn't important of you are good or bad. you only must have money, and our pilots don't have it.

now fontana is in argentina and he still drives fantastic

[F1Ram]

do you know what happened to Esteban Tuero?

[Kasimirovich]

many people (even miself) in those days miss the 80' with senna , prost mansell and so on... but the 90' were great if you compare then with the 00'!!

[mclarenfan1st]

Like most F1 fans who remember it, I too dearly miss the old Hockenheim circuit. So much so, I can't even bare to watch Hockenheim these days!!!

The old circuit may be overgrown but with the money in F1 surely they could easily re-lay a bit of tarmac???

Maybe if we make a loud enough noise......

[KaragouniSG13]

i wish this could be happen, but it's almost impossible, at least as long as bernie is the president of FOM/FOA. Plus, the old track is completely destroyed and trees were planted on where it used to be tarmac

[maxboost85]

sono sempre + convinto ke nel gruppone si divertono come pazzi

[1d3aswd]

bring back the old hockenheim!

[5starsnitskymatch]

it doesnt exist any more.

[KaragouniSG13]

yeah, i've seen some photos on panoramio(dot)com . The tarmac is completely gone and it's been replaced by small trees. Yet another one great track who tilke destroyed :(

[therrydicule]

Sorry, but Tilke get some order... And never ask the old track to be covert with grass.

[interludepl]

Even the asfalt on the old part is covered by grass... ;/

So shame...

[partikelstrom]

i cant believe it.

[Drone696]

Maybe McLaren should have given a Car to Jan Magnussen (the car overtaking), instead of Hamilton >:o) Im from Denmark, so im not the one to ask

[dolphinroundabout]

I agree Magnussen was great driver!

[AleXcr86]

God I miss the proper Hockenheim.

[ALCUS52]

Not only that, but cars running close together in corners. Both are apparent in this video.

[Zurbert82]

They were running close together on the long straights and through the chicanes, plus one 'corner'. Keep in mind Hockenheim was a low downforce circuit where aero disturbances from other cars are minimized. Great pass none the less.

[AlonsoLegend]

Good move!

[niconaz]

Fontana a serious promisse that didnt have the chance of testing this car.

[brainfadeonmulsanne]

going to arrows ruined damon hills career

[evofreak1304]

THE GOOD TIMES !

damn i love those engine sounds

much better then those buzzing v8`s

[65unlimited]

fantastic passes!!