Renata Tebaldi - Follie! Sempre libera - La Traviata - Verdi

[ugnedileo]

L'Italia dei grandi artisti !!

[NEBESHIKU]

Brava Callas!

[nachomusica]

preciosa voz ella es una soprano spinta lirica

[gustopheles]

That cackle at the 0:56 mark. Not ok.

[amayzak]

FIERCE!!! I prefer her in Puccini, but she tears it up doing Verdi! There's verve, passion, and meaning in the sweep of her phrases... we don't see artistry like this anymore; everyone is so hung up on high notes that modern voices sound jailed by comparison.

[Royalbrettania]

I would never even understand what kind of Soprano is meant to sing this or that and frankly I don't give a Fach.....as justa simple opera adoring pleb....I love that I can hear Traviata sung by ten or more different Divas and hear as many different interpretations of that role............this to me sounded simply amazing

[zuri2002]

what year was this recorded? Ü

[raphee13]

how high is the tesitura of a real spinto? 

[Serinia4melodic]

@raphee13 C6.. it depends on breath support and training. and how the singer imagines the tone... most beginner sopranos even if they are lyric or coloratura don`t reach C6:D

Some can reach E6 but it`s not in their comfy range/tessitura. so they dont sing it often or at all.

[MrCafiero]

@Serinia4melodic Voices need training which means that the instrument - all muscles involved (including breathing) - must be built first. They aural image of the right sound must be developed as well. Most sopranos reach C6 easily in their first lessons, but it is hard for them to sustain. Spinto tessitura is not different than lyric. Coloratura soprano tessitura is different and they need reliable Ebs.

[Serinia4melodic]

@MrCafiero it`s very hard and takes years to sustain a C6. A light little c6 or even falsetto can`t be used in opera singing and therefore cannot be considered part of the range or tessitura. because they don`t resonate properly. Actually most females cannot sustain beyond E5 in their first lesson... because of improper breathing. Or this is from personal experience:D they go backward with the sound. You are such a great teacher:D saw y videos. I still cant sustain beyond G5 after 1 y

[MrCafiero]

@Serinia4melodic Actually it doesn't take years if you have the right training. I have plenty of soprani who can do it in far less time. Completely full voice. E5 should not be a problem either.. I am glad you liked my videos of teaching. I hope you find what you need.

[796824]

Listen to MERCEDES CAPSIR sing this aria the way it should be sung. Tebaldi was not a Violetta as noted by the key change here.

[CharlotteinWeimar]

Brava Tebaldi. She is probably singing this at the pitch Verdi intended in 1853. Since then, in the desire for a brighter, louder sound, brass and wind instruments have been made differently. Orchestras have tuned ever higher, which in turn has forced modern singers to sing at least a semitone too high. Sadly this denies some richer voiced singers performing the role. Virginia Zeani is one of the few who could successfully combine the high pitch with a full voice.

[MrCafiero]

That is exactly right. There is a great video on youtube if you search for "Cappuccilli Tuning" which shows the conference they had about it.

[primohomme]

I don't know why but her voice reminds me so much of Marilyn Horne. Like a high version of Marilyn Horne.

[MrCafiero]

Because Horne, who studied briefly with my teacher, was really a soprano. However, Tebaldi's voice is 5 time bigger and more squillante without the honky-ness in the middle.

[primohomme]

The timbre though is somewhat reminescent. If Marilyn was a soprano how did she go about developing such a strong chest voice that she could sing Arsace and its low coloratura at the MET? Also...her sustained high C was rather chocked though high D in coloratura was rather good.

[MrCafiero]

Horne stated her career as a soprano singing Musetta in Germany. She added this "honky" middle sound to sound more like an oboe which she thought was a more mezzo sound. All the great singers of the past had big, strong chest voices. Hornes was not any bigger or stronger than Callas, Destinn, Tebaldi, Ponselle or Tetrazzini. Tetrazzini in fact started as a contralto.

[primohomme]

Interesting...Tetrazzini did not have a contralto-like timbre as Maria had though. Maria is an assoluta because of that, the contralto range and timbre and high soprano range and coloratura.

[MrCafiero]

I think in person Tetrazzini probably had more of that on the bottom than the recordings show. The tuning in those days were different and the recordings do not pick up all the overtones in the voice.  She once demonstrated singing contralto for those who did not believe she started as one. But back then even the lightest soprani used chest. In fact, none of the greats avoided chest. It is unnatural.

[primohomme]

True...sadly now we have light coloratura sopranos singing Anna Bolena and Norma (Devia). Hopefully Renee does well in Armida next year, since she is the only one who could pull it off...at least like 20 years ago.

[MrCafiero]

It is sad how, like Tebaldi said in 1979 in an interview "Were have all the big voices gone? Now we only have tiny mosquitoes!" Fleming was good when she first came out, but is just a light lyric.

[primohomme]

Well for me is about the beauty of the sound first of all, and of course...if the singer can actually sing the part without having to simplify or transpose to adapt to their limitations.

[MrCafiero]

The limitations are due to poor technique. A big beautiful voice is the best. A big ugly voice is the worst. For me it is about free voices that are also expressive. Beauty can be so subjective that it hinders freedom and ideal function.

[primohomme]

@MrCafiero

Well I think singing out of tune is never a good thing. And Tebaldi tended to do sing very off tune above the staff. Not in here really, but there are recordings of her simply going flat.

[primohomme]

@MrCafiero

I found an interesting article in which Tetrazzini talks about starting as a contralto and later on actually losing the low range and becoming a high soprano.

[MrCafiero]

Also, she did not approach the very top notes correctly.  It wasn't that she did not have them.

[CatalinaDM56]

Horne was a mezzo...I agree, primo....it isn't even a question of whether or not she was.

[MrCafiero]

And you know this how?