Thank you for the video! I was one of the people you mentioned that believed drifting came to be because one wanted to go faster on the bends. I still preffer drift racing over drift show though, way more...
Yeah you can tell the difference in styles. America is more about being big, in your face, muscly, speedy and winning things by power. Just like their high school jocks. Other places like Japan seem to focus more on making the best out of little power. My personal preference is the second one. Good video Jeremy - and Wolfe.
@nickJod1234 I was starting to feel like the only one in the states who realized that, it seems as if ten years ago, you'd mention drift to an American and they would look at you with a weird look on their face, fast forward 6 years later after that stupid Fast and Furious movie came out, and the same person acts like they invented drifting.
@nickJod1234 Unfortunately people like to show off, but its not the majority. most of the time these people are shunned for being an ass.
But i agree on the power comment. I get people all the time that ONLY look at horsepower or torque figures and bench race. People cant realize that a 2700lb car w/300hp can beat a 3800lb car w/400. No one seems to understand that torque isn't everything, if you have less rational mass to overcome. I could go on...
@TEDDERAMA Yeah. But I don't want to single out America... cause the world seems to hate America these days, but not all of America is power greedy. Lots of Americans care about the world outside of muscle. They know loads about Japanese and English and Italian cars.
nice to see some original drifting. Nowadays its all about overpowered cars with race chassis making lots of smoke. Drifting for me will always be about lightly modified street cars on tight, windy tracks or touge passes.
wow. Now thats a bad ass. "i was kicking so much ass and winning so often, i had to purposely slow my car down and give the people a show b/c they were so used to me winning." hahahah not an exact quote but still, you get the idea =P
Welcome to the country that once limited the Horsepower of its production cars under 300, back during the age of the NSX and Supra. Welcome to the culture that's more about skill and precision, rather than just big block engines with so much horsepower, you couldn't turn without losing -all- that speed anyway.
Different cultures, different cars, different approaches. Go watch your drag racers if speed's your fetish.
@Shaftronics Maybe i was a bit harsh. Dont get me wrong, i do think these guys got skill and i enjoy watching this stuff.
But still, you could put any good rally driver there and they would be in par with these guys in drifting skill, but it would not work the other way around.
@DexterFishbourne lol... driving in a straight line is not racing... that is just boring... yea lets see how long it takes to get down a 1/4 woohoo lol
@DexterFishbourne what the hell are you doing watching a drifting video if you think its pointless. Drifting is way more exciting to watch than nascar or drag racing drag racing yeah there are some close races but your driving in a straight line and nascar yes your goin fast but in circles no fun in it drfting is uniqe and always interesting.
@AJDdude I can watch whatever I want, douche. Nascar is boring, but fast. Drag racing is pure horsepower. I drag race a BBC and I also drive an old 205 in my local rally club and used to drive open wheelers when I was younger. I know what racing is. Drifting isn't racing. Yes, it's impressive...but I would disagree that it's unique and interesting.
@DexterFishbourne racing is a sport that need a driver steer steering, use braking technique, shifting up and down technique and much more, not just floor the gas and shift at the straight line quarter to a mile.. then hoorah win..
All these comments about why he drifts are bullshit. Just check over his most famous quote - I drift not because it is the fastest way around the corner but because it is the most exciting - Keiichi Tsuchiya
drifting is a demonstration of skill and control. a lot of people get this confused with natural over-steer that occurs when you push a car to its limits
@craccka yea maybe, but if i do that i'll live on a track and never leave! ill live off seat foam and sell myself for gas/tire money! but it'll be worth it just drive a car like that! haha
controlling a good amount of oversteer can be faster on some corners, ever seen WRC? but the modern showmanship style of drifting is definetly NOT faster on the turns.5
@jayive34 don't get me wrong, i'm a fan of both but grip applies to 95% of all motorsports and drifting pretty much stands alone. the practicality of drifting is irrelevent. the most impractical part of drifting is the wasting of tires but thats why most drifters first sponsor is a tire sponsor. i also believe that drifters are among the elite of "skilled drivers". but again i respect your argument because its bound to forever be a rivalry of interest.
exactly. drifting as a motorsport isn't about speed. entry speed but not about finishing in first place. all drift racing would be pretty rad though. hmmm.
This isnt y he got into it he was a driver in the JGTC. He had drifted all the way around MT Fuji Speedway back in the 80's and he a found and discovered a new form of racin but it didnt pick up until the 90's and thats why hes known now as the DK of drifting
sometimes racer purposely slide out their rear on the corner entrance( but not so wide like drifting )so that they gonna get a good angle at the corner exit, thus reducing understeer while cornering ,ive read that somewhere , dont really remember the book
but i think sumtimes racers drift in order to attack the corners using the inner side,therefore a chance to overtake ur opponent whenever he exposes an opening (dat's jus opinion XP)
So then if a drifter were to race a grip racer, then the person racing grip would win? Since drifting is slower then normal turning? Or is the advantage to drifting the faster exit speed? 'Cause now I"m confused.
:D, how cute. I'll clear up some confusion for you. Anytime your wheels lose traction you are effectively going slower.
If anything about drifting is fast, it's the entry speed. Exit speeds are incredibly low when drifting compared to gripping the same corner and as anyone who races will tell you exit speed is what counts.
If someone were to drift vs grip the same corner, the grip car would pull away at the corner exit leading into the next corner, passing the drift car.
But wasn't the reason why Kunimitsu Takahashi started drifting in the first place because of a higher exit speed? Which led him to pwn the other drivers? That's what I read anyways.
Unfortunately no, drift exit speed will not be faster unless 100% traction is impossible to obtain, such as on a wet surface with slicks, snow, gravel, etc.
The reason is simple. If your tires are spinning then your car loses 30% or more traction which means you now have less usable tire grip to accelerate, corner, or brake.
Drifting is simply the act of controlling an oversteered car. Drifting isn't about reducing laptimes, rather having fun and looking badass.
Clarkson is a journalist not a racing driver infact he is a crap driver :s if drifitn is this fastest way to drive then why does Keiichi not drift in this vid, Tsuchiya driving ARTA_NSX and sets a Tsukuba Record and set lap records ?....... O because its slower.
Drfiting is fun, its is not the quickest way around a corner, its a skill and not an easy one to learn if you want to be good at it.I ts is however quicker and safer to drift/slide if you are on loose surface i.e. a rally car on a forest/ gravel stage.
@ReactTeamSession since when did he played Gran Turismo when he started Drifting in the 80's how is that possible that Grans Turismo came on that kind of year?
drifting slows down the car...you can do it to show off if you're that much faster as DK was..the goal of all racing drivers is to keep the car on the edge but (in a perfect world) NEVER EVER CROSS IT, and then you get the fastest lap possible.throwing away grip is just for fun :))
maybe in hairpins etc.(no, i didnt get that from initial d) sliging in places like a 'microdrift' is faster. and ion the rain and rallying, its always faster.
yes "micrdrift" can be faster.a said that at my second point in my last post. and tes in rallying too. but drifting, real drifting, from entrance or halfway through a corner is not faster. micro drifts for me dont count. thats just helping the car turn in faster by letting it slide that little that sometimes an untrained eye doesent even notice it.
hmmm....tho not as blatant as you put it, grip is technically faster than drift. tho, the stuff in this video aint real drifting. this is just show drifting. look up a couple touge videos, when they drift they start countersteering before they hit the apex, so they straighten out mid-turn. drifting on the touge is used to keep speed while turning. well..at least thats my understanding [x
depending on if its a drift battle or a speed battle...when the car breaks off in a speed battle the aim is to get it straight as soon as possible..loosing grip-loosing time...
i dont. ive heard of it, but i dont watch it. if im wrong, then could u explain to me wat real drifting is? in no way am i challenging you x] this is just for my personal knowledge.
Well if you look at touge drift videos, they don't do that to be faster at all.
To be even more aware of that fact just look at some hot version touge battle, theres both videos where they drift and they grip, speeds are simply not the same at all!
This dwift is okay... i guess......BUT YOU SHOULD SEE ME DWIFT MY AWESOME CIVIC!!!!! I DWIFT TO SCHOOL, THE POOL, TO SOCCER PRACTICE, DANCE AND JUDO LESSONS.!!
I AM A REAL DWIFT PRINCE. WHEN I DWIFT COPS CHEER AND GIVE ME THUMBS UP! COPS TRY TO CHASE ME DOWN TO SHAKE MY HAND; BUT I'M TOO COOL FOR THAT. SO I LEAVE THEM IN THE DUST DWIFTING ALL THE WAY TO MY MOMMYS HOUSE.
making the drift longer will always be slower. In the drift bible he shows the difference between a show drift and a racing drift. the duration of the racing drift was much smaller. Drifting is usually used on tight turns after a longish straight away to slow down and angle the car for the corners exit.
that is the cool facts of how it originated and actually shaved seconds off lap times, now people do it the whole course and don't get as good of times, but the fastest drivers always use a mix of drift and grip
Not really, the slight drift coming out of a corner is in fact a power slide, which can lead to increased lap times. But entering a corner sideways will just wreck the tires sadly.
There is no point arguing whether drifting is faster or slower... Drfting is for show, regular driving is for speed. Both of which I enjoy a lot :)
thx for the video, and explaining to some that extensive drivting is slower with nearly every car on dry pavement, especially that´s the case with modern race cars.
When being on the edge, some drivers sometimes make very slight drifts and are still fast, as e.g. H.J. Stuck showed in many races. A bit more extensive drifts were only fast in in old cars, like a Lotus Cortina or a Chevrolet Corvette C2, but still far away from what drift artists show in their exhibitions.
Actually at a young age Tsuchiya was inspired by Another race driver that would speed drift during races... He is called the drift king because he founded drifting his skill as a driver... was always there, I guess the names go hand in hand
Jeremy clarkson thinks this s14 is a standard road car? what a joke. he doesnt know or care much for the modified car scene. its all about from factory for him/top gear.
Well duh, his job is to test cars as they come out of the factory....sooo
Btw, a stock S14 is really nothing, it is a standard road car, sports car yes. but you don't even know if that was a Q power S14 or a K, and that makes a bit of a difference.
My point is that jeremy, and obviously yourself, are unaware that this s14 is a K, the kei-office s14 silvia in fact, as seen on the drift bible dvd. if you've ever seen it. and of course its the turbo silvia. why would he waste his time with a Q... ~rolls eyes~
jeremy never said that the s14,s15, or s anybloodything was no good, he simply said that standard cars in general were useless (and i agree, to be competitive in the sport, you reallly need a LSD, suspention, and all the ects.) Jeremy can be a bit general at times (marigolds?) so he dosn't really care if it has had a engine from a top tuner, he just cares that roughly standard car crashed-point proven....
Guys, sorry about my english, im brazilian. So, on a dirty track drifting is faster, becouse the car slides much more and you dont toss the tires. In some slow corners drifting can be faster to turn it. But, on a grip drifting isnt faster and it ruins the tire, so at the first laps of a race u can do it ok, but at the last laps ur tire will be horrible and ur perform wouldnt be good.
Jeremy Clarkson said the standard S15 Silvia is no good.. no where in the vid does anyone say that the S15 Silvia itself is not a good base for drifting.
yes... he started it all... he's the guy at the docks in fast and furious tokyo drift who says "you call that drifting?" while the main character is tryin to drift... he also did just about all the driving for that film... giving him the name "Drift King"
no he didn't do hardly ANY driving, they hired Samuel hubinette and rhys millen and tanner foust to do the driving... idk were u heard that from but its wrong lol
Yes he did drive,... in the scene when he's practicing in the mountains, also, I believe he drove the red lancer the whole time, but i'm not sure about that...
Them are rubber gloves. Too much grip makes it harder. kinda like when ur making a symbol city turn and after that turn u let the wheel slide though your hands causeing a perfect turn then u grip the wheel's.
"its not like taking a turn on the streets, in drifting u want full control of ur wheel no matter what "
well, unless your wheel is sooo slippy, or you feel nervous, there is no reason that the wheel would slip in your hands when you want to really have control over it
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we must remember that there are show drifts and racing drifts wich are completely different from each other, it is possible for a racing drift to be faster than grip if done right.
drift is faster if the exit of a corner is for some reason slow,because you are faster in the entrance.If the conditions are normal,though,it is best to have a good,steady break and a quick exit,than drift.Racers for example,use drift when the tires start to wear out.
what the hell? keiichi learnt to use drifting down hill on his street touge battles coz down hill drfiting on sharp turns is faster then follwoing standard racing lines? the translation must of been wack ? iv watched all the bmis and hot versions i know the deal haha
i thoug drifting was faster because the rear tyres pull their power against the g force and the front tyres mantained the car in the right direction and turning right but you say no.
it depends on the car, the road, and the technique. when ur drifting to go faster, its not even going to look like a drift or grip, its what some people call the "grip slip"
and the readon they dont drift in formula 1 is because the cars are designed to grip in order to spare the tires.
Hard to make people understand that. We could also talk about Takahashi Kunimitsu who was famous to powerdrift corners exit during races to be faster in his skyline 2000 GTR. Curioulsy Tsuchiya was a big fan of Takahashi, i wonder why hehe.
The thing here is i never heard Tsuchiya saying drifting is slower in the video(from the translation), just that he started drifting for show, not performance. And if grip was always the fatest way around a corner rally drivers would never get sideways.
yea exactly, back when people started drifting when it was necessary on the touges, their lap times would improve, but they werent doing D1 style drifting
i know this one guy who raced at the bakersfield speedway (california) he used an older porsche and couldnt get the lap time he wanted, so he drifted on some corners and whoopdeedoo, his time improved by 2 seconds
well exactly as the video description said, it's almost always slower on dry pavement, occasionally in slow turns, hairpins etc, it's faster to drift in, but it's never faster to drift out of a turn, I know this because I'm a grip racing driver, in Formula One the drivers often say "I got a bit of wheelspin coming out of a turn" and they went slower than they could have. And don't get me wrong, I've done some drifting as well and it is faster in slow turns and of course on loose gravel, snow etc
he was very young in this video.
ALIVIETCONG 1 week ago
Thank you for the video! I was one of the people you mentioned that believed drifting came to be because one wanted to go faster on the bends. I still preffer drift racing over drift show though, way more...
binhonz 5 months ago
i drift because it isnt the fastest way around the corner , but hte most exciting
N0sPr4Yu 5 months ago
Yeah you can tell the difference in styles. America is more about being big, in your face, muscly, speedy and winning things by power. Just like their high school jocks. Other places like Japan seem to focus more on making the best out of little power. My personal preference is the second one. Good video Jeremy - and Wolfe.
nickJod1234 9 months ago 14
@nickJod1234 I was starting to feel like the only one in the states who realized that, it seems as if ten years ago, you'd mention drift to an American and they would look at you with a weird look on their face, fast forward 6 years later after that stupid Fast and Furious movie came out, and the same person acts like they invented drifting.
SLRMC93 7 months ago 5
@nickJod1234 yeah, america became rich and spoiled with big powerful cars, and japan just made do with what they had.
Sasori327 5 months ago
@nickJod1234 yeah America is all about noise and smoke. Japanese drifting is all about precision driving
CGC3agl3 1 month ago
@nickJod1234 Unfortunately people like to show off, but its not the majority. most of the time these people are shunned for being an ass.
But i agree on the power comment. I get people all the time that ONLY look at horsepower or torque figures and bench race. People cant realize that a 2700lb car w/300hp can beat a 3800lb car w/400. No one seems to understand that torque isn't everything, if you have less rational mass to overcome. I could go on...
TEDDERAMA 1 month ago
@TEDDERAMA Yeah. But I don't want to single out America... cause the world seems to hate America these days, but not all of America is power greedy. Lots of Americans care about the world outside of muscle. They know loads about Japanese and English and Italian cars.
nickJod1234 1 month ago
he looks like bunta lol
lilaztekjaguar 9 months ago
@lilaztekjaguar There's a reason for that
DrKelso85 6 months ago
@lilaztekjaguar hes buntas far cousin....bunta showed him the ropes
rey1164 6 months ago 4
with those glasses and that hair he almost reminds me of a young kim jung il lol
otakukj 11 months ago
nice to see some original drifting. Nowadays its all about overpowered cars with race chassis making lots of smoke. Drifting for me will always be about lightly modified street cars on tight, windy tracks or touge passes.
ppbbs88 1 year ago 10
DORIFTO KING !
victoryasbek 1 year ago
wow. Now thats a bad ass. "i was kicking so much ass and winning so often, i had to purposely slow my car down and give the people a show b/c they were so used to me winning." hahahah not an exact quote but still, you get the idea =P
7m28 1 year ago 3
My wife called to get her green kitchen gloves back.
TheDev3131 1 year ago
Jeremy, you are the epitome of STANDARD road car.
Arai4lpinestars 1 year ago
wtf....u tard who posted the video need to learn english and listen to him and what he said...
ttvrde 1 year ago
Clarkson! KT!
carmodifire 1 year ago
nice silvia
MazdaArai 1 year ago
fkn clarkson he is everywere
slinq 1 year ago
as the man said himself to drift is not the quickest way round a corner but its the most exciting way that man can drive!!!!!
dodgyremix 1 year ago
ITS SO FAST ZOMG. ITS SO FAST SO FUN AHH -jizz-
Welcome to the country that once limited the Horsepower of its production cars under 300, back during the age of the NSX and Supra. Welcome to the culture that's more about skill and precision, rather than just big block engines with so much horsepower, you couldn't turn without losing -all- that speed anyway.
Different cultures, different cars, different approaches. Go watch your drag racers if speed's your fetish.
Because skill, is mine.
Shaftronics 1 year ago 6
@Shaftronics If skill is most important id rather watch Rally than this circus.
LapinPete 1 year ago
@LapinPete Then feel free. Because as quoted "Style is everything."
This IS a circus, and people enjoy watching and doing it.
Shaftronics 1 year ago
@Shaftronics Maybe i was a bit harsh. Dont get me wrong, i do think these guys got skill and i enjoy watching this stuff.
But still, you could put any good rally driver there and they would be in par with these guys in drifting skill, but it would not work the other way around.
LapinPete 1 year ago
@LapinPete No doubt. Rally drivers are professional drivers. These guys do it for fun. There's obviously going to be a difference there.
Considering Drifting and efficiency don't match in the same sentence, that's saying something.
Shaftronics 1 year ago
@Shaftronics THE GOOD OLE DAYS OF THE FAST MINIMAL COUNTER SPEED DRIFT.
AE86TougeRacer 1 year ago
@DexterFishbourne lol... driving in a straight line is not racing... that is just boring... yea lets see how long it takes to get down a 1/4 woohoo lol
Tj1056 1 year ago
lol he tried to wave but failed :/
Havid10 1 year ago
@DexterFishbourne what the hell are you doing watching a drifting video if you think its pointless. Drifting is way more exciting to watch than nascar or drag racing drag racing yeah there are some close races but your driving in a straight line and nascar yes your goin fast but in circles no fun in it drfting is uniqe and always interesting.
AJDdude 1 year ago
@AJDdude I can watch whatever I want, douche. Nascar is boring, but fast. Drag racing is pure horsepower. I drag race a BBC and I also drive an old 205 in my local rally club and used to drive open wheelers when I was younger. I know what racing is. Drifting isn't racing. Yes, it's impressive...but I would disagree that it's unique and interesting.
We'll see where your sport is in 20 years.
I'm guessing history books only.
DexterFishbourne 1 year ago
@DexterFishbourne not to burst your bubble but drag is not racing either... a race is on a track with corners ^^
Tj1056 1 year ago
@DexterFishbourne racing is a sport that need a driver steer steering, use braking technique, shifting up and down technique and much more, not just floor the gas and shift at the straight line quarter to a mile.. then hoorah win..
takashisupreme 2 months ago
How could anyone say drifting isn't a sport or isn't difficult? I do not comprehend. Ignorance or jealousy I presume
Tog4Real 1 year ago
All these comments about why he drifts are bullshit. Just check over his most famous quote - I drift not because it is the fastest way around the corner but because it is the most exciting - Keiichi Tsuchiya
dodose1 1 year ago
drifting is a demonstration of skill and control. a lot of people get this confused with natural over-steer that occurs when you push a car to its limits
supradave9 1 year ago
seeing that s14 made me miss my 240sx!! :( oh well ill suffer with my s2k!
JermFaceKiLLa 1 year ago
@JermFaceKiLLa hahaha take the f20c out and buy a AE86 and do a swap and sell the s2000 body =] you'll love your car better =]
craccka 1 year ago
@craccka yea maybe, but if i do that i'll live on a track and never leave! ill live off seat foam and sell myself for gas/tire money! but it'll be worth it just drive a car like that! haha
JermFaceKiLLa 1 year ago
its Clarkson's motorworld
carmodifire 1 year ago
its top gear
RnB123100 1 year ago
controlling a good amount of oversteer can be faster on some corners, ever seen WRC? but the modern showmanship style of drifting is definetly NOT faster on the turns.5
85raminator 2 years ago
nevermind the drift/grip discussion, did you see Jeremy Clarkson with his afro? :P
benlukkie 2 years ago
ahh. the age old argument. grip versus drift. drifting looks better and is far more exciting. period.
drifttheplanet86 2 years ago 2
@drifttheplanet86 yes, but, is drifting more practical than than grip ? I respectfully disagree.
jayive34 2 years ago
@jayive34 don't get me wrong, i'm a fan of both but grip applies to 95% of all motorsports and drifting pretty much stands alone. the practicality of drifting is irrelevent. the most impractical part of drifting is the wasting of tires but thats why most drifters first sponsor is a tire sponsor. i also believe that drifters are among the elite of "skilled drivers". but again i respect your argument because its bound to forever be a rivalry of interest.
drifttheplanet86 2 years ago 2
@drifttheplanet86 yea but when your racing drifting is a little slower
xraidedlok 1 year ago
@drifttheplanet86 stupid that those are even compared really.
xraidedlok 1 year ago
exactly. drifting as a motorsport isn't about speed. entry speed but not about finishing in first place. all drift racing would be pretty rad though. hmmm.
drifttheplanet86 1 year ago
This isnt y he got into it he was a driver in the JGTC. He had drifted all the way around MT Fuji Speedway back in the 80's and he a found and discovered a new form of racin but it didnt pick up until the 90's and thats why hes known now as the DK of drifting
Wooliebop 2 years ago
sometimes racer purposely slide out their rear on the corner entrance( but not so wide like drifting )so that they gonna get a good angle at the corner exit, thus reducing understeer while cornering ,ive read that somewhere , dont really remember the book
ezuan88 2 years ago 5
fark he looks young back then!
bop001 2 years ago 2
i thot keiichi does it cause its a more exciting way to take a corner.if im not wrong he was quoted somewhere but just can't remember
aeroz2 2 years ago 2
yea,he did said dat (i saw the quote in wiki)
but i think sumtimes racers drift in order to attack the corners using the inner side,therefore a chance to overtake ur opponent whenever he exposes an opening (dat's jus opinion XP)
nerd91 2 years ago
@aeroz2 Just to let you know that you aren't the only person that heard that. I believe it was on an episode of Best Motoring when he said that.
CHRISGT34 2 years ago
So then if a drifter were to race a grip racer, then the person racing grip would win? Since drifting is slower then normal turning? Or is the advantage to drifting the faster exit speed? 'Cause now I"m confused.
2RockStar1978 2 years ago
@2RockStar1978
:D, how cute. I'll clear up some confusion for you. Anytime your wheels lose traction you are effectively going slower.
If anything about drifting is fast, it's the entry speed. Exit speeds are incredibly low when drifting compared to gripping the same corner and as anyone who races will tell you exit speed is what counts.
If someone were to drift vs grip the same corner, the grip car would pull away at the corner exit leading into the next corner, passing the drift car.
xplat 2 years ago
@xplat
But wasn't the reason why Kunimitsu Takahashi started drifting in the first place because of a higher exit speed? Which led him to pwn the other drivers? That's what I read anyways.
2RockStar1978 2 years ago
@2RockStar1978
Unfortunately no, drift exit speed will not be faster unless 100% traction is impossible to obtain, such as on a wet surface with slicks, snow, gravel, etc.
The reason is simple. If your tires are spinning then your car loses 30% or more traction which means you now have less usable tire grip to accelerate, corner, or brake.
Drifting is simply the act of controlling an oversteered car. Drifting isn't about reducing laptimes, rather having fun and looking badass.
xplat 2 years ago
well... u cant say that this one is better than that one...
it depends mostly on the track/corner u take.
u CAN take close corners faster with drifting, BUT fast corners are better to drive with grip..
But not the "style" drifting is fast. look at rally cars if they drive on road.. ull see what i mean.
sry 4 the bad english btw.
KuRo88 2 years ago
Enjoy video! For your pleasure!
KeiichiTsuchiyadrift 2 years ago
Motorworld right?
zomgpow 2 years ago
there are very few corners where drifting is faster, almost none. on very few corners it can make your exit quicker, usually tightish hairpins.
Frillar 2 years ago
well the true reason i drift is because wen the car is side wayz n da other car cant keep up,,, i feel sumthing really good inside...
panch0d3lr4ncho 2 years ago
Clarkson is a journalist not a racing driver infact he is a crap driver :s if drifitn is this fastest way to drive then why does Keiichi not drift in this vid, Tsuchiya driving ARTA_NSX and sets a Tsukuba Record and set lap records ?....... O because its slower.
j591cypcrx 2 years ago
sometimes its faster
what is even slower is sitting at a computer saying that clarkson is a crap driver....
id sure he'd teach you a thing or two - or at least more than you could teach him about driving fast in parking lots....
jac31k 2 years ago
mmmm Jeremy Clarkson and Keiichi Tsuchiya vid... Nerdvana
mytallestkitty 2 years ago 3
Drfiting is fun, its is not the quickest way around a corner, its a skill and not an easy one to learn if you want to be good at it.I ts is however quicker and safer to drift/slide if you are on loose surface i.e. a rally car on a forest/ gravel stage.
j591cypcrx 2 years ago 30
true
dooskiss 2 years ago
I Drift Not Because Its The Quickest Way Around A Corner, But The Most Exciting-----Keiichi Tsuchiya.
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Nosferatu157 2 years ago 5
yeaah, i have. ive seen that they do both grip and drift, but wats the point? if theres no difference in speed, why drift at all?
johnnyjohn911 2 years ago
shits fun. thats why
ILUVJDM0051 2 years ago
not helpful buddy.
johnnyjohn911 2 years ago
okj wut would u like to be answered ask away.
ILUVJDM0051 2 years ago
he make peace finger that Y huhuhuhuh
ansarida 2 years ago
LMAO! 0:42
but he still beeing my fucking hero!
EIMEKOS 2 years ago 5
even monkeys fall from trees :D
nothingface1984 2 years ago
anyone have this full version of top gear?
KnotsOfWonders 2 years ago
he started to drift because he was tired of playing Gran Turismo.
ReactTeamSession 2 years ago 92
lmfao : D
7houghtsaboutl1fe 2 years ago 2
hahahahahaha
yangstaboi06 2 years ago
@ReactTeamSession LOL! good one :P
bapuksss 1 year ago
@ReactTeamSession cuz they had gran turismo in the 80s
adfadfewfrewafawefaw 1 year ago
@adfadfewfrewafawefaw It's just a joke comment. :P
ReactTeamSession 1 year ago
@ReactTeamSession since when did he played Gran Turismo when he started Drifting in the 80's how is that possible that Grans Turismo came on that kind of year?
DarkWiZZeR099 1 year ago
@DarkWiZZeR099 The game came out on 1997,he's just joking,don't take it too seriously
ShiraYuki619 1 year ago
@DarkWiZZeR099 Keiichi is a time traveler.
xtelevisionset 9 months ago
Is this top gear or something? if it is what episode is it? :)
SwiftGti27 2 years ago
clarkson's car years. it's from an ep. that where clarkson shows what japanese and the car scene is like, its in my fav. so u can see there
carmodifire 2 years ago 2
drifting slows down the car...you can do it to show off if you're that much faster as DK was..the goal of all racing drivers is to keep the car on the edge but (in a perfect world) NEVER EVER CROSS IT, and then you get the fastest lap possible.throwing away grip is just for fun :))
Jicba87 2 years ago
in some cases, drifting is faster.
carmodifire 2 years ago 4
yes in likeee 2 CASES.
First: if the corner is so tight you are better off using the e brake and perform something similar to a U-turn, but thats not real drifting...
Second: in a front wheel drive car, you cal let your tale slide a bit into position aut of a corner, but thats not drifting either.
so, actually I am back to what i said in the first post-sliding you car from in corners all the way (drifting) is NEVER EVER faster.Period.
Jicba87 2 years ago
maybe in hairpins etc.(no, i didnt get that from initial d) sliging in places like a 'microdrift' is faster. and ion the rain and rallying, its always faster.
carmodifire 2 years ago
yes "micrdrift" can be faster.a said that at my second point in my last post. and tes in rallying too. but drifting, real drifting, from entrance or halfway through a corner is not faster. micro drifts for me dont count. thats just helping the car turn in faster by letting it slide that little that sometimes an untrained eye doesent even notice it.
Jicba87 2 years ago
maybe from the entrance so u dont need to brake
carmodifire 2 years ago
hmmm....tho not as blatant as you put it, grip is technically faster than drift. tho, the stuff in this video aint real drifting. this is just show drifting. look up a couple touge videos, when they drift they start countersteering before they hit the apex, so they straighten out mid-turn. drifting on the touge is used to keep speed while turning. well..at least thats my understanding [x
johnnyjohn911 2 years ago
depending on if its a drift battle or a speed battle...when the car breaks off in a speed battle the aim is to get it straight as soon as possible..loosing grip-loosing time...
Jicba87 2 years ago
you've watched too much initial D
waider 2 years ago
i dont. ive heard of it, but i dont watch it. if im wrong, then could u explain to me wat real drifting is? in no way am i challenging you x] this is just for my personal knowledge.
johnnyjohn911 2 years ago
Well if you look at touge drift videos, they don't do that to be faster at all.
To be even more aware of that fact just look at some hot version touge battle, theres both videos where they drift and they grip, speeds are simply not the same at all!
waider 2 years ago
take it from the drift king himself:
"i drift not because it's the faster way but because it's the most exciting way..."
imperialjeht 2 years ago 5
"When I was racing, everybody knew that I would win". He's so cocky...
Slipstream0001 2 years ago 2
He's kinda earned the right to be cocky though.
darkitechture 2 years ago
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928GTSR 2 years ago
lmao funny at the end
ozmeltk 2 years ago
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This dwift is okay... i guess......BUT YOU SHOULD SEE ME DWIFT MY AWESOME CIVIC!!!!! I DWIFT TO SCHOOL, THE POOL, TO SOCCER PRACTICE, DANCE AND JUDO LESSONS.!!
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uglysnotnosepunk 2 years ago
making the drift longer will always be slower. In the drift bible he shows the difference between a show drift and a racing drift. the duration of the racing drift was much smaller. Drifting is usually used on tight turns after a longish straight away to slow down and angle the car for the corners exit.
toookoooldrew118 2 years ago
that is the cool facts of how it originated and actually shaved seconds off lap times, now people do it the whole course and don't get as good of times, but the fastest drivers always use a mix of drift and grip
homerdrivesfast 2 years ago
well the people who drift the whole course aren't doing it for lap times. its just for show.
toookoooldrew118 2 years ago
Not really, the slight drift coming out of a corner is in fact a power slide, which can lead to increased lap times. But entering a corner sideways will just wreck the tires sadly.
There is no point arguing whether drifting is faster or slower... Drfting is for show, regular driving is for speed. Both of which I enjoy a lot :)
op3l 2 years ago
put it this way: speed drifts r in some cases, faster
carmodifire 2 years ago
Drift ability during races can allow a chance to overtake on a line that is unorthadox, from a corner that otherwise only has one space to pass!
Fascinating video though, I didn't know that!
Kingsoupturbo 2 years ago
clarkson and tsuchiya, hell yeah
mikedasprofessor 2 years ago 4
thx for the video, and explaining to some that extensive drivting is slower with nearly every car on dry pavement, especially that´s the case with modern race cars.
When being on the edge, some drivers sometimes make very slight drifts and are still fast, as e.g. H.J. Stuck showed in many races. A bit more extensive drifts were only fast in in old cars, like a Lotus Cortina or a Chevrolet Corvette C2, but still far away from what drift artists show in their exhibitions.
BMWizardofOz 2 years ago
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Give me a car please. Mine is broke.
uglysnotnosepunk 2 years ago
living legend :D
tennisstar523 2 years ago 2
Does anybody know the full name of this video???
gamer1393 2 years ago
wow, clarkson and tsuchiya
very cool!
pyromaniac1207 2 years ago
it depends on the track, on windy touge or rally circuits, drifting is always faster
hokman1 3 years ago
LoooL at 0:41 and then ... the wall !
Keiichi Tscuhyia, the drift king <3 <3
geforce5700fx 3 years ago
Actually at a young age Tsuchiya was inspired by Another race driver that would speed drift during races... He is called the drift king because he founded drifting his skill as a driver... was always there, I guess the names go hand in hand
medoseedo11 3 years ago
kunimitsu takahashi
carmodifire 3 years ago
wow dude, jeremy clarkson looks so young lol
viet411 3 years ago
Jeremy clarkson thinks this s14 is a standard road car? what a joke. he doesnt know or care much for the modified car scene. its all about from factory for him/top gear.
R32GTRacing 3 years ago
Well duh, his job is to test cars as they come out of the factory....sooo
Btw, a stock S14 is really nothing, it is a standard road car, sports car yes. but you don't even know if that was a Q power S14 or a K, and that makes a bit of a difference.
RotaryPower2010 3 years ago
My point is that jeremy, and obviously yourself, are unaware that this s14 is a K, the kei-office s14 silvia in fact, as seen on the drift bible dvd. if you've ever seen it. and of course its the turbo silvia. why would he waste his time with a Q... ~rolls eyes~
R32GTRacing 3 years ago
Kei office S14
reck101101 3 years ago
So he did it for the people... wow...
inoout 3 years ago
jeremy never said that the s14,s15, or s anybloodything was no good, he simply said that standard cars in general were useless (and i agree, to be competitive in the sport, you reallly need a LSD, suspention, and all the ects.) Jeremy can be a bit general at times (marigolds?) so he dosn't really care if it has had a engine from a top tuner, he just cares that roughly standard car crashed-point proven....
matter7890 3 years ago
holy shit. he looks young back then
bop001 3 years ago 3
Guys, sorry about my english, im brazilian. So, on a dirty track drifting is faster, becouse the car slides much more and you dont toss the tires. In some slow corners drifting can be faster to turn it. But, on a grip drifting isnt faster and it ruins the tire, so at the first laps of a race u can do it ok, but at the last laps ur tire will be horrible and ur perform wouldnt be good.
Luccap 3 years ago
did the dish gloves make his hands slippery?
sillychink3293 3 years ago
Jeremy Clarkson said the S14 Silvia is no good. =(
Chanzilla86 3 years ago
Jeremy Clarkson said the standard S15 Silvia is no good.. no where in the vid does anyone say that the S15 Silvia itself is not a good base for drifting.
RedHammerSAA 3 years ago
No where in the vid was there an S15 Silvia. That is clearly a zenki S14.
Chanzilla86 3 years ago 3
yh, im very sorry. I meant S14.
RedHammerSAA 3 years ago
but the car inst realy a good car stock anyway to be honest
Gummby69 3 years ago
he is the one who developed drift?
zekio77 3 years ago
yes... he started it all... he's the guy at the docks in fast and furious tokyo drift who says "you call that drifting?" while the main character is tryin to drift... he also did just about all the driving for that film... giving him the name "Drift King"
GeRmAnIaNhAcKeR 3 years ago
no he didn't do hardly ANY driving, they hired Samuel hubinette and rhys millen and tanner foust to do the driving... idk were u heard that from but its wrong lol
atr360 3 years ago
Yes he did drive,... in the scene when he's practicing in the mountains, also, I believe he drove the red lancer the whole time, but i'm not sure about that...
uncabronusername 3 years ago 2
if u see the behind the scenes youll see him driving so get ur facts right boy
climbingwill 3 years ago
Them are rubber gloves. Too much grip makes it harder. kinda like when ur making a symbol city turn and after that turn u let the wheel slide though your hands causeing a perfect turn then u grip the wheel's.
AleeThoj 3 years ago
its not like taking a turn on the streets, in drifting u want full control of ur wheel no matter what
kapoof2 3 years ago
quote:
"its not like taking a turn on the streets, in drifting u want full control of ur wheel no matter what "
well, unless your wheel is sooo slippy, or you feel nervous, there is no reason that the wheel would slip in your hands when you want to really have control over it
ofnir123 3 years ago
not to be disrespectful but is he driving with rubber dish washing gloves?? Oo
JohnE007 3 years ago
lol looks like it but i think theyre driving gloves so you dont let your hands slip etc
wax333 3 years ago
he uses them as a handiecap when he drifts
raceguy514 3 years ago
lol i was wrong they are dish gloves to handicap himself
wax333 3 years ago
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we must remember that there are show drifts and racing drifts wich are completely different from each other, it is possible for a racing drift to be faster than grip if done right.
abot19 3 years ago
no it isn't.
elit34 3 years ago
his driving gloves seem to be washing golves, lol
ivanRq92 3 years ago
your video description is balls...he didnt do it to be faster...it's because he was already too fast that he had to slow himself down somehow...
Nickamsweet 3 years ago 2
drift is faster if the exit of a corner is for some reason slow,because you are faster in the entrance.If the conditions are normal,though,it is best to have a good,steady break and a quick exit,than drift.Racers for example,use drift when the tires start to wear out.
BZegraph 3 years ago
woah...He looks so old when he was young..LOL!
mynameisthepass 3 years ago
Nah it's just a bad day for him I guess. Those glasses don't help either. lol
falconmanf16 3 years ago
ummmm...that was in the late 80's to early 90's. those glasses were quite popular then.
geraldlkc 3 years ago
1995 Jeremy Clarkson's Motorworld :D
sc0tt10 3 years ago 4
WHOAA JEREMY CLARKSON!!!!
xsilvermercuryx 3 years ago
In order to drift properly all tires have to slide
jamesvzfighter 3 years ago
Rofl.
BloodyMaug 3 years ago
what the hell? keiichi learnt to use drifting down hill on his street touge battles coz down hill drfiting on sharp turns is faster then follwoing standard racing lines? the translation must of been wack ? iv watched all the bmis and hot versions i know the deal haha
ripped16 3 years ago
isnt that what they just said?
kapoof2 3 years ago
i thoug drifting was faster because the rear tyres pull their power against the g force and the front tyres mantained the car in the right direction and turning right but you say no.
lordvaldomerio 3 years ago
Yes that's why they drift in Formula 1.
zerodorifto 3 years ago
look at it this way, the lesser you screech, the faster you go. . . Drifting's merely for show and not a faster way to negotiate a corner, sadly
pchan2282001 3 years ago
it depends
julianleeho 3 years ago
on what?
lordvaldomerio 3 years ago
sometimes you have to drift a little in sipery roads to go faster. sometimes you have to drift so you dont understeer.
julianleeho 3 years ago
it depends on the car, the road, and the technique. when ur drifting to go faster, its not even going to look like a drift or grip, its what some people call the "grip slip"
and the readon they dont drift in formula 1 is because the cars are designed to grip in order to spare the tires.
kapoof2 3 years ago 3
thats what im trying to say but im to lazy to type that long... lol
julianleeho 3 years ago
Hard to make people understand that. We could also talk about Takahashi Kunimitsu who was famous to powerdrift corners exit during races to be faster in his skyline 2000 GTR. Curioulsy Tsuchiya was a big fan of Takahashi, i wonder why hehe.
The thing here is i never heard Tsuchiya saying drifting is slower in the video(from the translation), just that he started drifting for show, not performance. And if grip was always the fatest way around a corner rally drivers would never get sideways.
BloodyMaug 3 years ago
yea exactly, back when people started drifting when it was necessary on the touges, their lap times would improve, but they werent doing D1 style drifting
i know this one guy who raced at the bakersfield speedway (california) he used an older porsche and couldnt get the lap time he wanted, so he drifted on some corners and whoopdeedoo, his time improved by 2 seconds
kapoof2 3 years ago
well exactly as the video description said, it's almost always slower on dry pavement, occasionally in slow turns, hairpins etc, it's faster to drift in, but it's never faster to drift out of a turn, I know this because I'm a grip racing driver, in Formula One the drivers often say "I got a bit of wheelspin coming out of a turn" and they went slower than they could have. And don't get me wrong, I've done some drifting as well and it is faster in slow turns and of course on loose gravel, snow etc
EkkuZakku 3 years ago 4
totally agree
Kaizer147 3 years ago
LOL obviously, cause there isn't any grip in rally, so the quickest way is still going for the most grip in a turn.
elit34 3 years ago 2