Shimano XTR or Sram X.0 ?????????

[pukuni96]

El mas Barato :) ...

[SuperBmxbadass]

Xtr I have the same one

[heavymetalangel1989]

Ya tuve Sram X0 y Shimano XTR.

Sin dudas el Sram X0 es MUCHO mejor que el XTR...

[SuperMgv]

por que sin comentarios?

[herrluke1]

BULLSHIT: SHIMANO XTR its 20 Years old and the Best

[SupraCRF]

I want to see a saint derailleur like this, or at least the new line-up from Shimano

[gmn59647]

Agree completely. I have both shimano & Sram: Shimano slx on my gt 29er and sram x7 on my sette fs xc. Although they are two different bikes, the sram x7 performs better and have less problems than the shimano.

That's my take on it.

[robomekk]

Yes, SRAM puts bigger springs in it's derailleurs. Using more force does not necessarily make it better.

[schlooonginator]

This video only proves that the derailleurs used in this behave in the shown fashion through a particular terrain, period. If you judge how a brand of derailleur shifts from this video clip than you are stupid.

[TheBlitz1]

@schlooonginator Yeah so if your riding in the mountains don't get the shitty shimano because your chain will be slipping all over the place and bashing into your frame the whole time.

[eshneto]

@TheBlitz1 Well, not true. The new Shadow design prevents it from happening.

[bmxwindows]

all you guys are a assh&%$; honestly, look closer and see this a old xtr rd-m960 and has a real bullshit as proves the video; after they came with shadow technology things changes for shimano and are a real quality piece, but in the time of this video Sram are the best

[edsoneduardo]

ummm.....falta apretar pues weyes..pendejos...pinchis

[betaomega04]

Newer XTR is badass, but XX makes for a pretty good ride too...you win either way

[misterrc51]

Old school XTR,compare to XO,XTR look like more than 10 year old with a bad tension spring.

[compaqnc6340]

a saint would beat both of them

[2394098234509]

Because we all know that the measure of a good shifter is how much chain slap there is, not, you know, how well it SHIFTS or anything :)

[dannyskater]

@2394098234509 Yeah this proves nothing.

[dkremeni]

Microtest Shimano XTR 2012 RD-M895 Shadow Plus

[dkremeni]

really...thats deore or an old xtr with bad setup or chinese wersion (not originall)... check "2012 Shimano XTR Shadow Plus"

[dkremeni]

???

[giantman72]

They both suck. Graber DFS/2 series rear derailleurs are the best!!! GO GRABER!!!!!

[AJSokrates]

@ecsastro

In my country SRAM X.O is like 280 dollars, When XT is like 100$. What you comapre is bullshit. XTR Shadow is about 175$.

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[DICKROJIC]

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[OfficialHiddentest]

Shimano is better :P

[TheS013]

lol this is not xtr, it's look like deore conventional lol

[BasaltGiraffe]

Filmed this with a potatoe?

[TheNorcokid]

@The dime dragon: your and idiot

[abomerider]

Never a Shimano derailleur that I had broken the spring. My Sram x7 looks plastic. He began to spring break. Bull Shit!

[ozJman86]

Great video mate! Dont often get to see those sorts of angles, Thanks!

I may be biased but i love XO im currently using it on my Anthem 0 and will be happy to use sram gearing again! The Avid juicy ultimates on the other hand have been a bit of trouble. Formula R1 brakes are the preferance there!

[TheDustyRavage]

in my oppinion it is completely irrelevant whether the shimano wibbles or doesn't wibbles...

[TheDimeDragon]

Old video. The new Shimano XTR Shadow doesn´t jump like this old one and it´s smoother than the X.0 .

[theroot1980]

nice video. thanks

[filthyblack]

SRAM X-0 ftw.

[alpendachs]

Das Schaltwerk muß näher an den Zahnkranz positioniert werden...Einstellung Schraube am Anschlag des Schaltauge. Maximal ein Kettenglied Abstand zwischen kassette und Leitritzel...dann sind die Schaltgänge sauber und die Kette bleibt bei unruhigem Gelände zumindest am hinteren Zahnkranz ruhig und ermöglicht sichere Gangwechel. radsport09-Salzwedel de

[thekkl]

So I'm assuming from this video that the vertical movement of the derailleur is bad?

[PeloPincho94]

sram para dh shimano para carretera.

[maxitaxik23]

sram

[9200Dimension]

Sram is for MTB/DH and much more.

Shimano is for Trekking and Fitnesbike.

[TheKrakatoa1]

SRAM's the best, but shimano Best Price :D

i use shimano because im just a rookie :p

[gdogau]

looks to me like the shimano does a great job of absorbing the shock...while the sram looks like the spring is to tight..i wonder where all the energy is going on the sram???

[opmike343]

@gdogau

A derailleur isn't the part if your bike you want "absorbing the shock." There ARE documented cases of derailleurs jumping from cog to cog from bumps, and this puts undue wear on cassettes. I'm unaware of any documented cases of a derailleur failing because it wasn't "asorbing" the forces directed on it over bumpy terrain. These things don't have enough mass or inertia to cause damage to their attachment points. Undue movement is more of a problem.

[chris12345444]

SRAM in performance and durability,SHIMANO in breaking performance only,but SAINT?? I need to try first!!!

[vlogsluisvlogs]

its not xtr its deore jakass false

[j0nah33]

thanx))

[nanno331]

eso no es un XTR ni de coñaaa!!!!

[martino0626]

Sram XO and XX is the brand of choice for the mass majority of pro XC riders and I use the XO 2x10 drivetrain and its unbeatable for trail and XX is unbeatable for XC

[PalyBiker]

Shadow XT and XTR are better than 100000 X.0 together. Fuck SRAM. On the video is older derailleur, Shadow is more more better, the best.

[leoncarbon]

okay how about an XTR crankset with a Sram 3X10 derailleur?? , cause I heard the pedaling power and stiffness of the crankset is better than XO

[powerworr]

the chain is moving the samo by both derailleurs !!!!!

[R3j0n0]

Sram x9 or shimano xt? dont know what :(

[pedrowidman]

Hi have been using SRAM since 2002 and I will never change back to Shimano. Sram is de BEST!

[xXheadmanXx]

what about the XTR Shadow vs Sram XX?

[unitedfuture]

Show me how xtr shadow rear derailleur works. This one is the old type. Even SLX works better.

[manlymike159]

the shimano doesn't look like it is adjusted right! I am using a cheap shimano I got for 12 bucks from kmart i have never had a problem shifting and i ride hard enough I snapped an axle not just the skewer/quick release but the axle!

[insanitylevel99]

not really a fair comparison the x0 is much closer to a saint and the saint is 100 times better imo.... and yes i have both a x0 and a saint

[xXheadmanXx]

@insanitylevel99 XTR is actually a step up from saint...

[insanitylevel99]

@xXheadmanXx

yes that may very well be but the saint is designed for dh the xtr is designed more for xc am

[abomerider]

@insanitylevel99 I agree with you. Video Old Cock. And also garbage image!

[init2winit1968]

sram rock!!!I used to run with shimano on my bike but now thats all binned and now running with xo twist grip and x7 rear mech!!!Shimano sucks..

[Oly1211]

Shimano new Shadow technology rear darauilers are better then this Shimano model (XTR 2003). I heave Deore XT 2008 (shadow) and Deore XT 2004, and Shadow model is 100x more reliable, more solid then previuos model. Now SRAM has better competition

[LobitoSuelto]

ese cambio no es un XT ni a palos!!1 parece mas un alivio o deore 2008...... no hay comparacion!

[creatorex1]

Hi,

Sram is one of the thing to thanks for coming to market. But that shimano model is olde. In that comparison no doubt SRAM but with newest? Who? In any case I ahve SRAM XX The Best!!!

[xConverttheillusionx]

I've watched a bunch of these and never know who wins :/

[jfh4098]

ok... now we have the shadow system and it is over and what about the chain in the sram x-0??

[foradordem]

SHITMANO

[foradordem]

lol... 10-0

sram wins

[93viperboy]

I rock a SRAM x-9 9 speed, but in all fairness, this video is completely biased.

[gundam395]

Both companies are great! I reccomend shimano for some freeride and xc races and downhills. Sram is good for road bikes mtbs and everthing

[hosusto]

i have sram on my trek but on this video linkage are different shimano longer sram shorter

[hisbabyf]

SRAM wins hands down. Shitmano is useless compared to sram, only makes products for beginers

[falkirk007]

The XX group tops shimano or any other company out there!!

[OliScale]

good comparison

[meandkg]

Shimano is better, not only for looks but also for shifting, shimano also makes top class wheels and brakes, beat the sram

[ftpaddict]

@meandkg You should be a comedian.

[1234silvano]

shimano je kurac

[MrKolew]

shimano je majka

[LOBOXERS]

Ainda sim prefiro o XTR

[s38a5t13n]

the only product worth anything from Shimano might be the Shimano saint group; cos it does look awesome as hell, but if it weren't on your bike stock buy some SRAM components

[s38a5t13n]

Sram FTW. The whole Sram group is awesome as hell. My whole bike is Sram all the way(Truvativ rick shox avid and of course a sram x-0 in the rear

[123456ale100]

shimano is way much better than sram is

[ThePsch]

also i know from experience that sram functions much better under higher stress like shifting when climbing. shimano makes much better chains/cranksets though. and i prefer sram shifting because it has a 1:1 actuation ratio vs. a 3:1 on shimano which means less throw on the shifterzz

[ThePsch]

@vette0009 derailleurs werent made for road bikes either. derailleurs were made for bikes. they didnt have mountain bikes when derailleurs were invented.

[georgepainton]

0:33 he pedals with the sram and not with the shimano so its gunna mover more

[PancreaticFistula]

its not Shimano XTR !!! Fake

[laborantiazzurro]

actually there's nothing wrong with that movement the deore does, it menas it is absorbing all impacts, trouble would be if it moves or vibrates sideways without shifting... Shimano works better for me

[meandkg]

thats deore

[HANK2374]

well....that explain why shimano come out "shadow" style derailleur. i really think my xtr shadow works way better than X0......much faster, lower profile, and looks cool w/ carbon cage!

[compaqnc6340]

that's the x5 lmao

[pavelsazonov]

sram rulezzz

[Fruwak]

So? The xtr cost less, works extremely well, even in rough, muddy conditions, where the xo, gives up.The sram triggers doesn`t work good when you are after a 80 km in muddy, wet, mountain conditions, with tired hands. Due to the profile which srams triggers have, your fingers will only slip off.

[martinedverlaque]

tht aint sram x.0 its sram x5 i should know i have it on my bike

[hooyou2]

Well then you should know, that is definately an X.0, the X-5 doesn't have any color on the logo, and I should know, I sell SRAM stuff at my shop.

[martinedverlaque]

sorry bud just realised LOL

[zvonimir23]

someone wants to sell me xtr rear and front derailleur?

[ScuderiaBull]

Dal ti ga još daje? koliko kn?

[krisangus]

Excause me but you can't compare the x.0 to the new xtr shadow

[kthebig3773]

sram x.0 is better but it costs too much...xtr is cheaper but not better...I have sram x9 and it's also very good and cheaper...

[Knife715]

superior stability with 1:1 actuation. SRAM.....

[UnSaintLike]

I guess it is personal preference. SRAM and Shimano are good in their own ways

[ldgrh8gsho]

Sram, sram 4ever sram !!!!

[meadowrock]

Been using Shimano for over 30 years. Thought it was OK until SRAM came along. IMHO SRAM's 1:1 system is far superior. Faster shifts and less fiddling with the adjustments. I'm in the process of switching all of my bikes to SRAM.

[azaame]

bullshit

[theseventhyear]

they fail to mention that the cable end in the X.0 shifter sits under this pain-in-the-ass coiled spring, making it frustrating to change. The limit screws thread into some low quality plastic piece, that can strip easily and ruin your 300 dollar der. A stable der makes shifting smoother, yes, but the forces of the bumps get absorbed by the shimano der's spring, where as they are simply absorbed into the hanger of the bike, the pivots on the der, and those shitty limit screws.

[hooyou2]

I have had both Shimano XTR and SRAM X.0 and nothing compares to the consistency and smoothness of the X.0 rear derailleur.

[OtherVincentLee]

@hooyou2 the new x0 derailleur carbon, has a tendency to shatter, i stick to the x9 one.

[ZzZzBENJIzZzZ]

Sram X 0 for life m8......................

[wheelhot]

This video is dated already and shouldn't be use. Take note that in the vid it was a old XTR against the newly designed X.0. Look at now, most top end race bike comes with XTR again. So that should tell that Shimano MTB division have done their homework. Im not saying A or B is better or such but what I mean is that this video is outdated.

[boum2507]

both of the derailleur has evolved but the difference is basically the same today

[yacuzah]

i dont understand it ? what is best ?

[boum2507]

sram

[yacuzah]

i got sram x-0 now its really great :D

[chantinon]

shimano eh melhor shimano win!

[akenatum]

A corrente bate igual nos dois casos, repare. Não vejo diferença.

[patchmonkey33]

I have both an XTR and an X-9. I have put a lot of hard miles on both and can tell no difference. They both hit the gear I want quickly, no ghost shifting, and both can take a hit. X-9 has one pivot point, XTR has 2. I don't see the problem

[mockys2007]

i tink sram x9 is better than shimano xt, well.. dont know wats between the x0 and xtr.. peace.

[dupczyciel666]

sram wymiata , ja mam sram 5.0 i lepiej sie spisuje niz deore

[corratecxverts01]

XTR is beather,this is not real.

[Eaglos]

A stiff part is very likely to brake. So I would take XTR.

[bobbyip]

All this proves is SRAM absorbs all the shocks. Which is technically bad. Shimano didn't drop a chain and absorbing impacts like that, SRAM'll break something sooner.

[bedbugg1]

so why do most dh bikes have X.0?

[bobbyip]

Because SRAM have a lot of money and said 'hey, if you ride this stuff, we'll give it to you for free'

And it's good stuff. Shimano is more invincible but SRAM shifts consistently, I run it on my XC bike. But most pros will ride what they're given

[jusadesigner]

não sei se influencia no desempenho do câmbio, mas o cabo e conduíte do câmbio Shimano é maior do que o do SRAM

[ivantcs]

afterall it still what you prefer. i prefer shimano drivetrain more. but brake from avid. truvativ and rockshox are gd too.

[vunewt]

sram der was designed not to bounce. Shimano wasn't. Therefore this vid just shows exactly that. Doesn't mean Sram is better. Personally I prefer Sram a bit more but this vid is poor. Furthermore, something stiff and unmoving means more shock goes to the der and it will fail faster (poor durability). Case in point: A full rigid rider will feel more shock than a full sus rider.

[combee23]

xtr beats sram hands down! its much stronger!

if we have a muddy xc competition, derailleurs break.

i counted them! 20 broken x.0 , not one broken xtr!

so i dont say sram is crap, but shimano is stronger.

this is true, it happend last weekend in tubize.

[deetraks]

this is probably because there is nobody riding xtr haha.

[singletrack29349]

A buddy of mine had a NEW freshly installed xtr derailler fail 4 miles into a sport race... it just expoloded, done, non-repairable.... our shop has NEVER seen a x9 or x0 failure of such epic proportions.

[admahecha]

SRAM is the best, I have a new derrailleur shimano and its brokes in two pieces

[ficosk8]

An 07 derrailleur ?

[TheSaxplaya1]

@admahecha acually the shimano xtr is designed the way cause if you look at the chain, the shimano one does bounce around as violently as the sram

[creativegta]

@admahecha My friend pretty much just broke sram x0, x9, x8, x7, x5 all in 3 weeks and then he bought a $40 shimano and it lasted him longer.

[gamingnoode]

@creativegta haha the x8 dont exists :D

[admahecha]

off course with sram that fukn shimano movement makes that your chain star to jump from pinion to pinion, SRAM OFF COURSE

[ficosk8]

I really don´t know what is better... but my new 07´ BIke will arrive in 2 Weeks with Sram Derailleur :P

Best REgards...

[nivram85]

you guys do know that both still have the same amount of chain slap onto the frame right? the movement of the dérailleur it self has nothing to do with how much the chain is moving, or slapping against the frame.

[luckdufloripa]

yo al contrario, me quedo con SRAM. Cuando la cadena queda floja te marca la vaina, y a su vez es una perdida de potencia al pedalear. Ademas, la cadena se mueve, pero menos. Obviamente la cadena rigida no puede estar nunca porque no duraria ni 10 kilometros con los golpes.

Aguante sram!

[totokos]

mmmmm

me qedo cn la chimano se ve q tiene mas

movimiento de cadera !!!