Brawling in a Party room with Rapier, Smallsword & Sabre

[Ianflaer]

good show guys, this was a lot of fun to watch. I especially liked the bits with the sword grabbing and my favorite sword move known by the medieval masters as "kick a chair at him!" good stuff here thanks for posting it.

[FoolingWithFuhlen]

my goodness you guys are quick with those smallswords o.0

frightening.

[imakez4u]

I love the video.... I especially LOVE ALL THE HACKING AND SLASHING !!!!!!!!!!

The music is FUN !! and the obvious fun these two had fencing each other is great too.....

MORE Videos please !

[jagerma5ter]

Hi what models are used here for each type?

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter Rapiers are Hanwei practical 43's, sabres and Hanwei Hutton, Smallswords are Hanwei Scottish courtsword and a Sport 7 smallsword. Essentially these are the entry level training weapons, we also use a lot of Darkwood rapiers which are a lot better, but a lot more expensive, and longer, heavier sabres sourced from Austria.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 Cool thanks, I know about darkwood they are nice but out if my price range. Can you get protective caps to fit on the end of a live blade?I think Ive seen them, that way you can use one rapier for fencing and target thrusting, buy just taking the cap off instead of using two rapiers, or replacing the blade with a practical and vise versa all the time. Ive seen people use corks but I'd want something a bit..... better....

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter Yeh Darkwood are excellent but the Hanwei 43 is a bargain, most of our members use them. I would recommend putting a heaiver pommel on though, we use the Hanwei sidesword pommels.

I wouldn't worry about target thrusting, that accuracy is best practiced with an opponent using a blunt. The hanwei model has a nail head as standard, so cannot be fifted with a tip.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 thanks for the advise, its actually for a friend of mine who want's a hanwei torino rapier, I'll let him know, but do you know about the caps? or where to get them? cheers.

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter The Torino is in their collectors range are is therefore a sharp, so you will have to blunt it or buy the blunt blade for it. Trouble is, both the sharp and blunt blades for them are too short and light to accurately represent most original rapiers, hence why I recommend people use either the Hanwei practical 43, or Darkwood with a 42" blade.

As for tips, Darkwood sell packs of rubber tips, though they don't last as long as you would like, Knight Shop sell ones which I am testing.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 ah thanks very much, you've been very helpful, can you let me know what they're like when you find out? cheers!

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter No worries. I already have the tips from the Knightshop, but only time will tell how they hold up, seem good so far though.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 I had a quick look for them and couldn't find them on knightshop, have you got a link? by the way you should do more vids like this, just long bouts of high speed sparring is very fun to watch. good vid!

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter Not sure they are on their website, I bought them in person, best to email and ask them. They are red rubber rapier tips. The reason I stopped doing continuous high speed stuff is that whilst entertaining, a lot of people complained it was hard to see what was going on, hence why I now use slow mo replays with descriptions.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 where are they based? are you in bristol?

I figured that was the reason for the other vids, still you should do some anyway HINT HINT! I mean there's plenty to learn from in your other vids anyway.

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter They are in Conwy, best thing is to give them a call or email, sure they will have some in stock, they were very cheap, they will only fit non button tipped rapiers of course.

Our two clubs are in Caerleon, near Newport, and in Bristol. I have been meaning to get more vids done for a while, I will do my best to get many more done soon.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 ok I'll let my friend know, I haven't got a rapier yet. I have a hanwei practical hand and a half sword, but there are no decent sword clubs near me, at least not that I know of, I'm in luton. There's a fencing club near, but it's just sport fencing using foils epees and sabres. Nothing to do with rapiers or daggers or more typical medieval style swords.... It's annoying!!! Do you happen to know of any in bedfordshire or nearby?...............I can't drive yet though........

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter Ok. The hanwei hand and a half is a damn good sword for the money, not by any means perfect, but nothing comes close to it for value.

I honestly cannot think of any clubs near you accept the Aisle'o'var backswording club, but that doesn't seem to fit what your after. Ultimately it is often the case that when you cannot find a HEMA group you merely have to start your own, and develop and learn in a study group.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 HEMA? sorry I don't know what that is. I don't have the funds or the know how to start a group yet I'm afraid. I have't seen all of your vids yet, do you do instructional videos for the longsword stuff? If you do where do you recommend I start? If you don't, are you going to? Would be cool!

[Nikos3000]

@jagerma5ter Historical European martial arts. Money can certainly be an obstacle, but know how isn't, there are no living traditions, every HEMA practitioner has to start from a foundation of research from manuals, unless they have somone experienced in this way to teach them. No longsword training vids, probably won't do any, simply don't have the time, get the agilitas longsword DVD, their stuff it excellent.

[jagerma5ter]

@Nikos3000 Is that how you learned? I'll have a look for that DVD. can you recommend any books, you seem to like capo ferro, any others? do you know anything about destreza? spanish fencing?

[kit40]

Nice fencing guys, looks like fun. First of all let me just say that I'm not one of those armchair swordsmen that loves to criticize others fencing from the safety of his dorito stained rolling chair. I noticed that there were a great many percussive actions in the rapier bouts and was just wondering what texts you used to inspire those actions. PS, loved the fisticuffs coming into the sabre play.

[Nikos3000]

@kit40 Thanks a lot. Most if not all of the fighting done with rapiers in this particular clip is done by two of our guys with near to no rapier knowledge. They had just bought their rapiers and wanted to simply have a bash, they are longsword practitioners with some sabre experience.

I didn't mind that this presented a ruffians manner of rapier fight because it fitted the scenario quite well. If you want to see some of our typical rapier stuff check out some of my other vids.

[kit40]

@Nikos3000 Thanks, I'll have to scope out some of those other videos. As to the jeans, that happens at times.  I've fought a few bouts in wranglers myself! haha.

[ZethUDSR]

Epic is epic.

[333mojo333]

You guys rock!

[maeljin]

hahah this is just GREAT! :D

[th7dude]

It would be nice to be let back for further training :-)

[AlexRawlings]

Great work ! Pity you couldn't throw some furniture around, flying chairs can really break concentration.

[Nikos3000]

Thanks, we got some good use out of it, but I think anymore than that would have made us a little unpopular with the organizers, it being freshly set up for a party and all :-)