Muhammad is not in Song of Solomon 5:16 because if he is then he is also in other verses from Hebrew Bible. This is what is means if we use that word as Muhammad
Peace to you and your academic independence, but, being a Muslim, I accept that the Holy Bible (more than the Holy Qur'an).The problem is you can make any text say what u want it to say, let us say in our hearts what Allah would want us to: The Lord will turn His children to whatever path needed. Tolerance is a fundamental tenant in Islam demonstrated by Isa (jesus) SAW and The Prophet SAW. We r all His and should belong to eachother (humanity) nomatter what the case is. This is only ethical
The Hebrew word is an adjective or term of endearment. Even Muslims know that the word "Mohammad" is a title, and not his proper name.
So there is a clear distortion here. And honestly, what was "pleasant" about a so-called prophet who slays Jewish believers in the hundreds or thousands?
And if "Song of Songs" is a mere secular poem, then it would not have been included in the Hebrew bible; it is about relationship of Israel with G-d.
Weak argument by Muslims; thanks for dissecting it here.
3) If some one even an angel come and say another Gospel against this, He is cursed. Galatians Ch1:8
4) Even satan can come as a angel of light and deviate us from real word of God.
5) Moses warned us about it in Deutronomy 18:20, Jesus warned us in Mathew 24:11. In the Book of Jude verse 4 also gives us the warning about false prophets. Lot more.........
@ThePhilipzy that was the pauline school of christianity. believe what you will but please please study about the different early churches some worshipped Isa (Jesus pbuh) as God, but the apostles had a different theology. A lot of decisions were made for you around 320 AD for example, when Arianism was considered a herresy, as well as any attempt to liken the trinity to the states of water (ice steam etc).
Allah is the name of a particular 'god', and does not mean 'The God'. If it did, then your Allah would be 'Al-Ilah', not Allah.
LOOOOOOOL
Common People aint this guy the dumbest fart face that has ever walked on the face of the eart. He cripples his own intelligence "by himself".
So your saying that extra "L" lol makes the difference between The God and some other God. Tell me, how can i pronounce Allah with the exra "L"; if i dont wanna make an error.
You hope all you want, but the truth remains, Jesus was never a christian nor called to it, blasphemer paul was. Now was Moses (AS) a jew and he never called to it. Both were Muslim submitting their will to God.
I can say God or Allah, they mean the same thing.
I ask you, since you are so right and i am so wrong how would you say God in Arabic, Aramaic and Hebrew. Remember English was made partly from those languages
I recall when Jesus said "ELliah ELliah" Sounds like Allah to me.
@kainsmith21 : You identified part of the problem and here it is ' recall when Jesus said "ELliah ELliah" Sounds like Allah to me'. Bingo. You are mistaking sound alike words with theological concepts.
Allah is the name of a particular 'god', and does not mean 'The God'. If it did, then your Allah would be 'Al-Ilah', not Allah. The word for God is 'ilah' so by your own admission, Allah cannot be 'The God'. Stop listening to Ahmed Deedat.
@LothairOfLorraine your funny man, how can you tell us what our own words mean, ALLAH means GOD. it does not mean the god its just how english poeple say god, arabic people say allah. as persians say khuda. if you mean we call god with a name, then your mistaken with the 99 names of god. for example one of the names is THE MOST MERCIFUL. thats one name of god.
If you knew a little bit of Arabic you would know that the word for "God" is" ilah" and the word for "The" is "Al". Put together these words make up Allah, The God. Carry on blasheming, your funerel. You enjoy speeking on behalf of the devil, cuz you are his slave.
Jesus peace and mercy be upon him is not God, and you insult Allah because you have no proof to defend your claims.
You need to drop your desires and see the truth for what it is. Your blasheme of Allah is nothing less the a sign of you hopelessness and lack of reasoning. Allah is the All Pure, your insults does nothing to his Magnitude. I need not say more about that.
You insult Islam while the words christianity cannot be found on the mouth of Jesus during his 23 year life, and trinity... well ... not even mentioned in your holy book. You are upon conjecture and you blind follow, nothing more than that.
@kainsmith21 : My desires to not include whoredom in Allah's drunken brothel with eternal virgins and young boys, so it looks like you may be the one in need of seeing the truth for what it is.
Allah is a rock in Mecca. Giving it attributes like 'All Pure' don't add much to its magnitude.
Christianity is based upon the Scriptures, while your islam is based upon the poetic verse of an Arabian chieftain who rots in the mud.
I worship a rock? and which rock would that be, your persistent ignorance exposes who you really are.
You said the divinity of Jesus is "well" attested in the Bible, then why dont you let that be your speech instead of your opinion.
Then you called My Prophet Peace and blessing be upon him false, when he never once insulted Jesus, son of marry, not once. But he SAWS glorified him and purified his name from the blaspheme you send forth with your mouths. Jesus AS is a messenger of God Almighty
@kainsmith21: I suspect that if I were to observe you for a few hours, I would see the object of your veneration, a rock in Mecca.
Your prophet, like you, insult Jesus every time you place Muhammad in the clothes of a prophet and reduce Jesus to no more than the same. YOU and your false prophet make Jesus into a gnostic heretic every time you speak of him.
You worship a man that never called himself God, not once during his 23 years on the earth. Then what did he call to, if not to worship him for 23 years. why did he do miracles for 23 year and not tell you how to worship him? Stop deceiving yourselves. You worship him because you enjoy following your desires; eating pig, drinking wine, fornicating, wearing tight clothes, being homosexual. You enjoy all those things and that is why you do not submit. But know one thing Jesus is free from you.
@kainsmith21 : You worship a rock that couldn't possibly be God. The divinity of Jesus is well attested to in the Bible and the Creeds of Christianity.
You follow a false prophet for no less than that which you attribute to me. Your islam offers you rivers of wine, endless gluttony and virgins with whom you can fornicate in endless whoredom. Little boys serve as purile waitors in Allah's brothel of carnal delight
Know this: I am free from your filthy prophet and his alter ego 'Allah'.
You need to be diagnosed for stupidity and extreme ignorance. I know your bible more than you and i am a Muslim. I submit to Allah (not a god in a black box) but Allah, The One True God, which Jesus Peace be Upon him never claimed to be no matter how much you fool yourself. Allah knows the liars and He certainly knows the truthful.
Jews and christians will be the first nations to enter Hell, lets talk about that. You worship a man, who ate, drank, slept, urinated and defecated.
You are a true meaning of the word kuffar (someone who conceal like a farmer conceal seeds in the earth) you and I know that you sat in front of you camera and just lied to the world about the songs of Solomon. How about we debate this on team viewer and then publish on youtube. Why do you resort to lying, doesn't your text hold any weight. Why must you lie upon you own book that the word MUHMADIM is not not in the hebrew songs of solomon. You think Jesus will love you more if you lie?
hi video maker you may be craze or dom or you heat islam no may be satan is playing with you because satan make you think that you are a good analyzer ...i think you are a good person but do not look for what is against islam but try to look for what with islam just for one time ...this is not for me or any muslim it is for you because your video is not hearting any me or any muslim it is hearting ...pleas ask GOD to help you find the true ..thank you for reeding
i think that you should know that different languages have different pronounciations and they sound different than others. and let me say that the Prophet Muhammad had many names, and Mahmood was one of them.
Show me in an original source where your prophet was named 'machmood'. Also, the word in Hebrew is 'machmad'. You are the one who is confusing the pronounciation of the word.
I understand you love your religion and would do anything to defend it, even if it means researching and wasting your time formulating false arguments against Islam. however if you do dedicate yourself to finding truth and seeking knowledge, there is no doubt you will soon learn Islam and actually spend time reading the Qu'ran before making your final decision in this life's trial. either way you go, you'll soon learn truth for yourself; I did when I was Christian.. good luck brotha
According to Mosaic Laws the number of witnesses required to establish a matter is at least two. Without two witnesses, the matter remains un-established according to Gods Law. (Deut. 19:15). 1st Cor. 14:29 reads, [Let the prophets speak, two or three, and let the other judge.]If you claim Allah is not one of the many gods of the Kaaba, but rather the same God who required two witnesses to establish a matter, can you or Islam produce two witnesses to verify Muhammads story?
if you truly wanted to know, i'm sure you could find the answer yourself (of course there are witnesses, its called history) however I'm assuming you haven't read the qu'ran cover to cover; it's simply your fault in the end if thats how you choose to decide something as important as religion. claiming Allah (swt) was one of the "many gods of the kaaba" is an insult to arab Christians and Jews.. Do you speak Hebrew or Arabic? get the idea that Christianity is a western religion out of your head
Actually, Allah is the proper name or appellation of one of the gods of the Kaaba. That your prophet worshipped a rock is no insult to arab Chrisitians at all. Using a common word like 'al-lah' or 'ho theos' does not at all equate to accepting religions that use the same word.
In the first Book of the Bible Abraham foretold that God will provide a lamb sacrifice. (Gen. 22) Two thousand years later (in the middles of the Bible) John the Baptizer pointed to Jesus, saying, [Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!] (John 1:29) Then, at the end of the Bible, John the Apostle sees a vision in which the Lamb of God is celebrated as worthy to receive honor and worship. (Revelation 5:9) The Bible in no way foretold the coming of Muhammad.
But what you want to believe is that an illiterate Arabic man who lived in the desert just wake up one day and started a religion that became one of the largest and fastest growing religions in the world come on man!! think about it.
No what most believe is that an illiterate man who was married into wealth and had literate men around him started a religion. If you think it was only Muhammad alone like Buddha you are mistaken, he had companions. There have been whole cultures that did not have written language and they had advanced religions. Muhammad was not a dumb person because he could not read, only in modern times do we consider stupidity to be equated with illiteracy. One can be brilliant and not know how to read.
And yes he was illiterate because thats how most of the people at that time started to believe in him because he was known to be illiterate and the suras (verses from the holly Quran) he came with were at the highest levels of Arabic literacy and not a single grammar mistake in the whole of the holly Quran which can only mean one thing he is not the author but God is.
Just answer my one question? Mohammad SAW was not a literater person then how does he knw about Jesus, Maryam, and other things about your religion... He was not taught by any body and other things which now are being proved??
There is a thoughtful debate on the topic of Muhammad's 'illiteracy' and just what is meant by the phrase 'an-nabi al-ummi'. Some Islamic traditions [Dawood 19.2993] do testify that Muhammad could read and write. Bukhari [5.553] also suggests that he could read, though not everybody agrees.
Nevertheless, he could certainly have heard the stores told, which would explain how he got so much of it wrong.
Are you trying to prove that Islam is wrong from a name?????? Wow buddy you just wasted ten minutes of my time. If you want to prove that Islam is wrong youre going to need a lot more than that! Do you have any idea how many scientific evidence are in the holly Quran that made many scientist and doctors convert Islam. Can you explain why it is the fastest growing religion in the world come on mana name!!!
Wrong. The word at 5:16 is 'machmad' and means 'altogether lovely' and not 'praised one'. The word 'Muhammad' is a homynym [ex. accept, except]. To base your exegesis on mere sound alike words leaves me....breathless....lol.
I see that you have been watching Ahmed Deedat videos. Ok, so let's not translate the word 'machmad'. Let's assume that it is the proper name of a specific person. We would have to use that exegetical method consistently, over each verse of the Song. Take a look at Song 1:3. The same person is also called 'shemen' [ointment/oil], so point out to me where Muhammad can be translated as 'ointment/oil'. Was one of Muhammad's names also 'shemen'. You Muhammadans really get pwnd easily.
During Muhammads lifetime some Jews converted to Islam very easily after Muhammad told them that e is mentioned in the Torah, the Jews opened the torah went to the exact page they were told and converted.
You believe that the old testiment was true (Torah) and now you believe in the new testiment (Gospel) and now you should believe in the final testiment (Qur'an)
If both of those names can be mixed up so easily in the Bible than you have proven to me that the Bible is in fact corrupted, Muhammad in the Bible is Muhammadim and this is known through many of my hebrew friends at school who are jews, and the last two letters are IM and MuhammadIM means Muhammad with all do respect.
Jesus even predicted a man who would come after him to show his message again, and this person was Muhammad.
Actually, they are not mixed up anywhere except in the minds of Muslims trying to find their prophet in the Bible.
In the Song, the Shulamite's lover is being addressed as the 'ointment' that is 'altogether lovely'. In neither verse is the word a proper name for the person being addressed.
You have NO friends who speak or read Hebrew. That much is easy to determine from your attempt to link a few Hebrew words in the Song to your 'prophet'.
u dont know me opr my life, i wave a bunch a jewish friends at school and about 5 to 7 of them actualy know hebrew and if you read to bible in a english/ hebrew/ english hebrew you will find it
None of them knows Hebrew if they are saying that 'machmad' sounds even close the 'Muhammad'. Also, the words have totally different meanings, and do not hold the same place in the lexicons.
why don't you also make a research about how many scientists have converted to Islam after discovering many things which were already mentioned in Qura'an many centuries back!!!!!!
i also advice u to check converted2islam videos he is discussing the same issue
I have done the research, and there is nothing in the Quran that cannot be traced back to earlier writings. So, if you are going to allege that its a miracle when it appears in the Quran, then you have to agree that it is a miracle when it appears in Galen's work, or Aristotle's, etc.
I have also seen some of converted2islam's videos, and he is unconvincing.
i'd request u to recheck my comment , as my question was HOW MANY SCIENTISTS CONVERTED TO ISLAM
i'd also request u to be more precise when you talk about Qura'an. u r saying that there is nothing cannot be traced to earlier writings can u give me examples!!!
do u know Arabic to understand Qura'an and talk about it !!!!
how do u get your informations about islam , Qura'an and prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him)????
OUTSTANDING !!!!!!!! I just got done watching some deedat videos and he is really something else. He tosses the bible aside as corrupt and then later quotes from it saying that his beloved prophet is prophesied in it. It's amazing. Thank you for your tireless research and explanation that could only have been given to you from God. Jesus Christ is the only way. Thanks again for doing the work of Christ.
I have looked at the Islamic evidence, and to say this it is 'thin' is just being nice. I have yet to see a Muslim 'pwn' Chrisitans. I have seen Dhimmi operate, and I have witnessed Muslims take full advantage of Christian ecumenism, but we are catching on to Muslim tactics and the Muslims are finally being taken to task.
Excellent video. The sad thing is that almost all muslims cannot be de-programmed from their cult. I've spoken with them daily. Even when you thrust undisputable scripture in front of their very faces, they don't accept it. The first thing they say is that it is corrupt. But then quick to use scripture from the same "corrupt" bible to support their other debates. It is unbelievable. Muslims, again, are almost unteachable. But then, that's what cults do.......God Bless
Drew: I have had the same experiences. Don't be alarmed or discouraged. At the end of the day, if all you have done is expose the double standards and special pleading that Muslims use, you have earned your daily bread.
I have seen them in action. This video is an example. The Song is the 'Gospel of porn' yet embedded within its passages is the name of the 'holy prophet'. Unfortunately for them, their claims just don't hold water. Be patient, and keep them in your prayers.
First of all, I read from my own writings. I do research, take notes and then make videos.
Muhammad in Deut 17? The word 'Machmad' does not appear in Duet 17. Or, are you now going to claim that some NEW word points to your prophet? Machmad was evidence used by Achmed Deedat in his debates, and it looks like a 10 minute video by a kufir straightned him out.
Love to debate the topic. Make a video, and add it as a refutation to this one. We'll go from there.
Manny, stop wasting time and let's discuss the topic. I do vids, then follow up with a live discussion and record the conversation. All I need to see is you on camera, stating your case.
If you can debate live, then you have at least a micraphone. So, make an audio recording with a blank scrren if that is what it takes. Then we can debate on Sticam.
Muslims are having a hard time in this day and age with Islam finally being exposed to such a wide audience. Examples like this show their desperation to find muhammad somewhere in the Bible.
So while at the same time as saying it's been corrupted, they search.
So sad, they are being so dangerously misled, while, I believe, so many of them really do want to worship YHWH. They've just got to wake up and realise the allah is the corruption and contradition and is false.
that is the most dumb shit i ever heard!
justforzain 3 months ago
Muhammad is not in Song of Solomon 5:16 because if he is then he is also in other verses from Hebrew Bible. This is what is means if we use that word as Muhammad
Hosea 9:6| Muhammad was buried.
2 Chronicles 36:19| Muhammad destroyed by fire
1 Kings 20:6| Muhammad taken away from house
From this verses we can see that Muhammad is not in Song of Solomon 5:16
viktermore 1 year ago
Peace to you and your academic independence, but, being a Muslim, I accept that the Holy Bible (more than the Holy Qur'an).The problem is you can make any text say what u want it to say, let us say in our hearts what Allah would want us to: The Lord will turn His children to whatever path needed. Tolerance is a fundamental tenant in Islam demonstrated by Isa (jesus) SAW and The Prophet SAW. We r all His and should belong to eachother (humanity) nomatter what the case is. This is only ethical
InIJah 1 year ago
According to Jewish law (and Noahide Laws), Christians are not monotheists:
"1) Prohibition of Idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God."
If you take Jesus as your god, you transgress this very first law
Then learn about Islam and compare with Judaism: same basic things even in the most tiny details.
Now, how someone without Jewish background could have brought this knowledge to mankind in the Arabic language?
Perfect Book in Arabic can only be from GOD
gsamahh 1 year ago
The Hebrew word is an adjective or term of endearment. Even Muslims know that the word "Mohammad" is a title, and not his proper name.
So there is a clear distortion here. And honestly, what was "pleasant" about a so-called prophet who slays Jewish believers in the hundreds or thousands?
And if "Song of Songs" is a mere secular poem, then it would not have been included in the Hebrew bible; it is about relationship of Israel with G-d.
Weak argument by Muslims; thanks for dissecting it here.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
3) If some one even an angel come and say another Gospel against this, He is cursed. Galatians Ch1:8
4) Even satan can come as a angel of light and deviate us from real word of God.
5) Moses warned us about it in Deutronomy 18:20, Jesus warned us in Mathew 24:11. In the Book of Jude verse 4 also gives us the warning about false prophets. Lot more.........
ThePhilipzy 1 year ago
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1) Bible says clearly in 2nd Peter 1:20, 21 states that what ever written in Bible is told by God himself.
2)Bible says who ever add a word more or less from his words, his name also removed from the Book of Life and he is cursed.
Revelation Ch 22:18,19.
ThePhilipzy 1 year ago
1) Bible says clearly in 2nd Peter 1:20, 21 states that what ever written in Bible is told by God himself.
2)Bible says who ever add a word more or less from his words, his name also removed from the Book of Life and he is cursed.
Revelation Ch 22:18,19.
ThePhilipzy 1 year ago
@ThePhilipzy that was the pauline school of christianity. believe what you will but please please study about the different early churches some worshipped Isa (Jesus pbuh) as God, but the apostles had a different theology. A lot of decisions were made for you around 320 AD for example, when Arianism was considered a herresy, as well as any attempt to liken the trinity to the states of water (ice steam etc).
InIJah 1 year ago
good explanation. muhammed is not mentioned in the bible except as as a false prophet who will lead you astray.
125RTY 2 years ago
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Allah is the name of a particular 'god', and does not mean 'The God'. If it did, then your Allah would be 'Al-Ilah', not Allah.
LOOOOOOOL
Common People aint this guy the dumbest fart face that has ever walked on the face of the eart. He cripples his own intelligence "by himself".
So your saying that extra "L" lol makes the difference between The God and some other God. Tell me, how can i pronounce Allah with the exra "L"; if i dont wanna make an error.
kainsmith21 2 years ago 4
Are you an idiot dumbass, you know ppl that from the outside appear to be idiots but to make problems worst they are dumbasses.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21 That's enough out of you. You are blocked.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
you are an idiot!!!!
God, i thouht dinosaurs were extinct yet we have one that still exists. The StuPiD.
Are you trying to transliterate Arabic text and then make it seem that that is how it is written in Arabic. You are one rubber duck.
I thought that there are many coptic christians, why dont you ask them instead of attempting to alter the arabic language with your stupidity.
Islam is too beautiful for you. Your spiratually ugly and lack common sense.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
yh whatever, moving on!!
UnitedUniversities 2 years ago
@UnitedUniversities: ok, bye!
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
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@Luthorcorp (AKA LothairOfLorraine)
Your a joke, pathetic. Why did you deleted your argument and make it seem that i said "yh whatever, moving on!! " moving on to kainsmith21? hahah
I said it to you because all you did was insult Islam instead of argue with reason like a decent person.
@kainsmith21 dont waste ur time with this jobless homo.
UnitedUniversities 2 years ago
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"I have the witness of the Gospels and all you have is a long dead poet. "
You have nothing but guess work. You follow conjecture and lie.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21 : The only one among us who thinks that I follow conjecture and lie is you and your false prophet.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
You hope all you want, but the truth remains, Jesus was never a christian nor called to it, blasphemer paul was. Now was Moses (AS) a jew and he never called to it. Both were Muslim submitting their will to God.
I can say God or Allah, they mean the same thing.
I ask you, since you are so right and i am so wrong how would you say God in Arabic, Aramaic and Hebrew. Remember English was made partly from those languages
I recall when Jesus said "ELliah ELliah" Sounds like Allah to me.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21 : You identified part of the problem and here it is ' recall when Jesus said "ELliah ELliah" Sounds like Allah to me'. Bingo. You are mistaking sound alike words with theological concepts.
Allah is the name of a particular 'god', and does not mean 'The God'. If it did, then your Allah would be 'Al-Ilah', not Allah. The word for God is 'ilah' so by your own admission, Allah cannot be 'The God'. Stop listening to Ahmed Deedat.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
@LothairOfLorraine your funny man, how can you tell us what our own words mean, ALLAH means GOD. it does not mean the god its just how english poeple say god, arabic people say allah. as persians say khuda. if you mean we call god with a name, then your mistaken with the 99 names of god. for example one of the names is THE MOST MERCIFUL. thats one name of god.
DlawaSarbest 1 year ago
@DlawaSarbest Actually, Allah is the 'proper name' of your god, and 'the most merciful' is an attribute.
LothairOfLorraine 1 year ago
@LothairOfLorraine if go to arab countires u will see that even christians use allah as god
Ramster321 1 year ago
@Ramster321 You are confusing linguistics with theology.
LothairOfLorraine 1 year ago
@ LothairOfLorraine
If you knew a little bit of Arabic you would know that the word for "God" is" ilah" and the word for "The" is "Al". Put together these words make up Allah, The God. Carry on blasheming, your funerel. You enjoy speeking on behalf of the devil, cuz you are his slave.
Jesus peace and mercy be upon him is not God, and you insult Allah because you have no proof to defend your claims.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21 : If you knew a little bit of Arabic you would know that the post you just made is unconvincing.
Sure, sure, sure.. I worship the devil, but your false prophet was a suicidal pedophile and that is just fine with you. Keep on deluding yourself.
I have the witness of the Gospels and all you have is a long dead poet.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
The truth will set you free.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
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LothairOfLorraine: I suspect that if I were to observe you for a few hours, I would see the object of your veneration, a rock in Mecca.
Then why dont observe us pray and take pictures. Then no one can argue with you.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
You need to drop your desires and see the truth for what it is. Your blasheme of Allah is nothing less the a sign of you hopelessness and lack of reasoning. Allah is the All Pure, your insults does nothing to his Magnitude. I need not say more about that.
You insult Islam while the words christianity cannot be found on the mouth of Jesus during his 23 year life, and trinity... well ... not even mentioned in your holy book. You are upon conjecture and you blind follow, nothing more than that.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21 : My desires to not include whoredom in Allah's drunken brothel with eternal virgins and young boys, so it looks like you may be the one in need of seeing the truth for what it is.
Allah is a rock in Mecca. Giving it attributes like 'All Pure' don't add much to its magnitude.
Christianity is based upon the Scriptures, while your islam is based upon the poetic verse of an Arabian chieftain who rots in the mud.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
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LothairOfLorraine:"Know this: I am free from your filthy prophet and his alter ego 'Allah'. "
And of surety he, peace be upon him, is free from the disbelievers.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21: Actually, he is rotting in the mud of his grave.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
MAN!! you are the dumbest pitbull dog i have ever seen. I will love to debate with you and your cronies.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
I worship a rock? and which rock would that be, your persistent ignorance exposes who you really are.
You said the divinity of Jesus is "well" attested in the Bible, then why dont you let that be your speech instead of your opinion.
Then you called My Prophet Peace and blessing be upon him false, when he never once insulted Jesus, son of marry, not once. But he SAWS glorified him and purified his name from the blaspheme you send forth with your mouths. Jesus AS is a messenger of God Almighty
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21: I suspect that if I were to observe you for a few hours, I would see the object of your veneration, a rock in Mecca.
Your prophet, like you, insult Jesus every time you place Muhammad in the clothes of a prophet and reduce Jesus to no more than the same. YOU and your false prophet make Jesus into a gnostic heretic every time you speak of him.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
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kainsmith21 2 years ago
You worship a man that never called himself God, not once during his 23 years on the earth. Then what did he call to, if not to worship him for 23 years. why did he do miracles for 23 year and not tell you how to worship him? Stop deceiving yourselves. You worship him because you enjoy following your desires; eating pig, drinking wine, fornicating, wearing tight clothes, being homosexual. You enjoy all those things and that is why you do not submit. But know one thing Jesus is free from you.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
@kainsmith21 : You worship a rock that couldn't possibly be God. The divinity of Jesus is well attested to in the Bible and the Creeds of Christianity.
You follow a false prophet for no less than that which you attribute to me. Your islam offers you rivers of wine, endless gluttony and virgins with whom you can fornicate in endless whoredom. Little boys serve as purile waitors in Allah's brothel of carnal delight
Know this: I am free from your filthy prophet and his alter ego 'Allah'.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
You need to be diagnosed for stupidity and extreme ignorance. I know your bible more than you and i am a Muslim. I submit to Allah (not a god in a black box) but Allah, The One True God, which Jesus Peace be Upon him never claimed to be no matter how much you fool yourself. Allah knows the liars and He certainly knows the truthful.
Jews and christians will be the first nations to enter Hell, lets talk about that. You worship a man, who ate, drank, slept, urinated and defecated.
kainsmith21 2 years ago
You are a true meaning of the word kuffar (someone who conceal like a farmer conceal seeds in the earth) you and I know that you sat in front of you camera and just lied to the world about the songs of Solomon. How about we debate this on team viewer and then publish on youtube. Why do you resort to lying, doesn't your text hold any weight. Why must you lie upon you own book that the word MUHMADIM is not not in the hebrew songs of solomon. You think Jesus will love you more if you lie?
kainsmith21 2 years ago
hi video maker you may be craze or dom or you heat islam no may be satan is playing with you because satan make you think that you are a good analyzer ...i think you are a good person but do not look for what is against islam but try to look for what with islam just for one time ...this is not for me or any muslim it is for you because your video is not hearting any me or any muslim it is hearting ...pleas ask GOD to help you find the true ..thank you for reeding
yaseraljohaim 2 years ago
i think that you should know that different languages have different pronounciations and they sound different than others. and let me say that the Prophet Muhammad had many names, and Mahmood was one of them.
spritzles 2 years ago
Show me in an original source where your prophet was named 'machmood'. Also, the word in Hebrew is 'machmad'. You are the one who is confusing the pronounciation of the word.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
@LothairOfLorraine
ive already sent you some proof. have you checked that email yet? because i really want to hear your reply.
spritzles 2 years ago
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spritzles 2 years ago
word?
I understand you love your religion and would do anything to defend it, even if it means researching and wasting your time formulating false arguments against Islam. however if you do dedicate yourself to finding truth and seeking knowledge, there is no doubt you will soon learn Islam and actually spend time reading the Qu'ran before making your final decision in this life's trial. either way you go, you'll soon learn truth for yourself; I did when I was Christian.. good luck brotha
blackeneseboy 2 years ago
According to Mosaic Laws the number of witnesses required to establish a matter is at least two. Without two witnesses, the matter remains un-established according to Gods Law. (Deut. 19:15). 1st Cor. 14:29 reads, [Let the prophets speak, two or three, and let the other judge.]If you claim Allah is not one of the many gods of the Kaaba, but rather the same God who required two witnesses to establish a matter, can you or Islam produce two witnesses to verify Muhammads story?
123dsj123 2 years ago
if you truly wanted to know, i'm sure you could find the answer yourself (of course there are witnesses, its called history) however I'm assuming you haven't read the qu'ran cover to cover; it's simply your fault in the end if thats how you choose to decide something as important as religion. claiming Allah (swt) was one of the "many gods of the kaaba" is an insult to arab Christians and Jews.. Do you speak Hebrew or Arabic? get the idea that Christianity is a western religion out of your head
blackeneseboy 2 years ago
Actually, Allah is the proper name or appellation of one of the gods of the Kaaba. That your prophet worshipped a rock is no insult to arab Chrisitians at all. Using a common word like 'al-lah' or 'ho theos' does not at all equate to accepting religions that use the same word.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
lmao, live in your ignorance than
if that suits you
blackeneseboy 2 years ago
and if you're going to try and refute the subject with one of your many Christian sources, refute this jew:
watch?v=65zyICBKBPI
blackeneseboy 2 years ago
Oh Lord have mercy! Another link to the 'Yemeni Jew Explains the Meaning of Allah' video.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
watch?v=65zyICBKBPI
blackeneseboy 2 years ago
These people are confuse to translate the names. Waisting there time and energy to do against the Muslims. They are totally blind people of the world.
Quran is inviting you poeple the change the Quran as you did with Bible. Even they dont know how many version of Bible are.
6341026p 2 years ago
My friend you also tell us the real name of Jesus in Hebro and who did make his name Jesus?
6341026p 2 years ago
mohammed (pbuh) is not illiterate he is intellegant
warshipa 2 years ago
"Stop wasting ur time with false arguments against Islam!!!"
johrna786 2 years ago
In the first Book of the Bible Abraham foretold that God will provide a lamb sacrifice. (Gen. 22) Two thousand years later (in the middles of the Bible) John the Baptizer pointed to Jesus, saying, [Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!] (John 1:29) Then, at the end of the Bible, John the Apostle sees a vision in which the Lamb of God is celebrated as worthy to receive honor and worship. (Revelation 5:9) The Bible in no way foretold the coming of Muhammad.
123dsj123 2 years ago
But what you want to believe is that an illiterate Arabic man who lived in the desert just wake up one day and started a religion that became one of the largest and fastest growing religions in the world come on man!! think about it.
omar9333 2 years ago
No what most believe is that an illiterate man who was married into wealth and had literate men around him started a religion. If you think it was only Muhammad alone like Buddha you are mistaken, he had companions. There have been whole cultures that did not have written language and they had advanced religions. Muhammad was not a dumb person because he could not read, only in modern times do we consider stupidity to be equated with illiteracy. One can be brilliant and not know how to read.
Here4Yeshua 2 years ago
And yes he was illiterate because thats how most of the people at that time started to believe in him because he was known to be illiterate and the suras (verses from the holly Quran) he came with were at the highest levels of Arabic literacy and not a single grammar mistake in the whole of the holly Quran which can only mean one thing he is not the author but God is.
omar9333 2 years ago
Why didnt u answer my question about the scientific evidence? Did he get so much of that wrong too?
omar9333 2 years ago
Just answer my one question? Mohammad SAW was not a literater person then how does he knw about Jesus, Maryam, and other things about your religion... He was not taught by any body and other things which now are being proved??
tom420fun 2 years ago
There is a thoughtful debate on the topic of Muhammad's 'illiteracy' and just what is meant by the phrase 'an-nabi al-ummi'. Some Islamic traditions [Dawood 19.2993] do testify that Muhammad could read and write. Bukhari [5.553] also suggests that he could read, though not everybody agrees.
Nevertheless, he could certainly have heard the stores told, which would explain how he got so much of it wrong.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
Are you trying to prove that Islam is wrong from a name?????? Wow buddy you just wasted ten minutes of my time. If you want to prove that Islam is wrong youre going to need a lot more than that! Do you have any idea how many scientific evidence are in the holly Quran that made many scientist and doctors convert Islam. Can you explain why it is the fastest growing religion in the world come on mana name!!!
omar9333 2 years ago
Song of Solomon 5:16 Muhammad is mentioned in the Hebrew language
ardijan9682 2 years ago
Wrong. The word at 5:16 is 'machmad' and means 'altogether lovely' and not 'praised one'. The word 'Muhammad' is a homynym [ex. accept, except]. To base your exegesis on mere sound alike words leaves me....breathless....lol.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
No its Muhammad and right next to his name says with all do respect.
What the Christians did was translate his name and they shouldnt have done so.
ardijan9682 2 years ago
I see that you have been watching Ahmed Deedat videos. Ok, so let's not translate the word 'machmad'. Let's assume that it is the proper name of a specific person. We would have to use that exegetical method consistently, over each verse of the Song. Take a look at Song 1:3. The same person is also called 'shemen' [ointment/oil], so point out to me where Muhammad can be translated as 'ointment/oil'. Was one of Muhammad's names also 'shemen'. You Muhammadans really get pwnd easily.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
During Muhammads lifetime some Jews converted to Islam very easily after Muhammad told them that e is mentioned in the Torah, the Jews opened the torah went to the exact page they were told and converted.
You believe that the old testiment was true (Torah) and now you believe in the new testiment (Gospel) and now you should believe in the final testiment (Qur'an)
ardijan9682 2 years ago
If both of those names can be mixed up so easily in the Bible than you have proven to me that the Bible is in fact corrupted, Muhammad in the Bible is Muhammadim and this is known through many of my hebrew friends at school who are jews, and the last two letters are IM and MuhammadIM means Muhammad with all do respect.
Jesus even predicted a man who would come after him to show his message again, and this person was Muhammad.
ardijan9682 2 years ago
Actually, they are not mixed up anywhere except in the minds of Muslims trying to find their prophet in the Bible.
In the Song, the Shulamite's lover is being addressed as the 'ointment' that is 'altogether lovely'. In neither verse is the word a proper name for the person being addressed.
You have NO friends who speak or read Hebrew. That much is easy to determine from your attempt to link a few Hebrew words in the Song to your 'prophet'.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
u dont know me opr my life, i wave a bunch a jewish friends at school and about 5 to 7 of them actualy know hebrew and if you read to bible in a english/ hebrew/ english hebrew you will find it
ardijan9682 2 years ago
None of them knows Hebrew if they are saying that 'machmad' sounds even close the 'Muhammad'. Also, the words have totally different meanings, and do not hold the same place in the lexicons.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
why don't you also make a research about how many scientists have converted to Islam after discovering many things which were already mentioned in Qura'an many centuries back!!!!!!
i also advice u to check converted2islam videos he is discussing the same issue
Rannoosh81 2 years ago
I have done the research, and there is nothing in the Quran that cannot be traced back to earlier writings. So, if you are going to allege that its a miracle when it appears in the Quran, then you have to agree that it is a miracle when it appears in Galen's work, or Aristotle's, etc.
I have also seen some of converted2islam's videos, and he is unconvincing.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
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Rannoosh81 2 years ago
i'd request u to recheck my comment , as my question was HOW MANY SCIENTISTS CONVERTED TO ISLAM
i'd also request u to be more precise when you talk about Qura'an. u r saying that there is nothing cannot be traced to earlier writings can u give me examples!!!
do u know Arabic to understand Qura'an and talk about it !!!!
how do u get your informations about islam , Qura'an and prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him)????
Rannoosh81 2 years ago
u may also visit website (bibleislamcom )
it will clarify mny issues 4 u
Rannoosh81 2 years ago
OUTSTANDING !!!!!!!! I just got done watching some deedat videos and he is really something else. He tosses the bible aside as corrupt and then later quotes from it saying that his beloved prophet is prophesied in it. It's amazing. Thank you for your tireless research and explanation that could only have been given to you from God. Jesus Christ is the only way. Thanks again for doing the work of Christ.
drewbloom34 2 years ago
haha, sure we are:P
only to bad that we have powned your christian friends mabey like 10000 times before on this subject:P
Nazam44 has debated That man in london? what was his name? Jim or somthing like that.
seferovic92 2 years ago
I have looked at the Islamic evidence, and to say this it is 'thin' is just being nice. I have yet to see a Muslim 'pwn' Chrisitans. I have seen Dhimmi operate, and I have witnessed Muslims take full advantage of Christian ecumenism, but we are catching on to Muslim tactics and the Muslims are finally being taken to task.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
Excellent video. The sad thing is that almost all muslims cannot be de-programmed from their cult. I've spoken with them daily. Even when you thrust undisputable scripture in front of their very faces, they don't accept it. The first thing they say is that it is corrupt. But then quick to use scripture from the same "corrupt" bible to support their other debates. It is unbelievable. Muslims, again, are almost unteachable. But then, that's what cults do.......God Bless
drewbloom34 2 years ago
Drew: I have had the same experiences. Don't be alarmed or discouraged. At the end of the day, if all you have done is expose the double standards and special pleading that Muslims use, you have earned your daily bread.
I have seen them in action. This video is an example. The Song is the 'Gospel of porn' yet embedded within its passages is the name of the 'holy prophet'. Unfortunately for them, their claims just don't hold water. Be patient, and keep them in your prayers.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
i can debate this topic with you if you want
muhammed is also mentioned in dt 17 too
muhammed is mentioned in the bible and christians should become muslims
btw, where are you reading this desperate attempt to refute the fact that muhammed is mentioned in the bible
mannypatel1 2 years ago
First of all, I read from my own writings. I do research, take notes and then make videos.
Muhammad in Deut 17? The word 'Machmad' does not appear in Duet 17. Or, are you now going to claim that some NEW word points to your prophet? Machmad was evidence used by Achmed Deedat in his debates, and it looks like a 10 minute video by a kufir straightned him out.
Love to debate the topic. Make a video, and add it as a refutation to this one. We'll go from there.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
jessie, stop wasting time and lets discuss the topic
im not doing vids, just do live discussion and record it
what you afraid of?
you have been avoiding me
mannypatel1 2 years ago
Manny, stop wasting time and let's discuss the topic. I do vids, then follow up with a live discussion and record the conversation. All I need to see is you on camera, stating your case.
What are you afraid of?
You have been avoiding me.
LothairOfLorraine 2 years ago
jessie, you know i have no camera!
so just agree to debate
mannypatel1 2 years ago
If you can debate live, then you have at least a micraphone. So, make an audio recording with a blank scrren if that is what it takes. Then we can debate on Sticam.
LothairLorraine 2 years ago
i dont know how
please tell me how
mannypatel1 2 years ago
Ask a few of your Muslim friends. They can walk you through it.
LothairLorraine 2 years ago
Muslims are having a hard time in this day and age with Islam finally being exposed to such a wide audience. Examples like this show their desperation to find muhammad somewhere in the Bible.
So while at the same time as saying it's been corrupted, they search.
So sad, they are being so dangerously misled, while, I believe, so many of them really do want to worship YHWH. They've just got to wake up and realise the allah is the corruption and contradition and is false.
Prophettessa 2 years ago
The muslims continually are trying to link themselves to Judaism and Christianity. It has become rather pathetic of them.
Thank you for doing this sort of research.
staffsgt7 2 years ago