Schola Cantorum edition dates from the late 18 Hundreds, not the cutting edge of early music scholarship we have today and that Nuno is IMHO on the cutting edge of.
There are no reeds on the Pedal in your performance, which is perfect. In an authentic performance on a continental instrument, reeds in a plein jeu should never be used, but in England (!), our organs are so dull that a reed of some description is necessary to bring out a CF... Unlike a Cliquot (or even a Cavaille for that matter), the typical English organ is thick and characterless, and certainly doesn't take kindly to part writing!!! Hope I made sense. Regards,
Ah, I see... Well, since I am in Portugal, and this is a typical dutch organ, your suggestion and no application doesn´t in this piece. Anyway thanks for your comments. If I go to England one day to play this piece on such an instrument, I won´t forget your suggestion ;)
As far as I'm aware, plein jeu requires no reeds (unless there is a CF in the pedal, as mentioned above). The reed chorus is only used in grands jeu (as in the big dialogues). Regards, Paul :-)
Yes, you are right. We see for example in pieces by Nicolas de Grigny where you have a plein jeu and the cantus firmus in the pedal. That one needs a reed on the pedal. In this case we do not have a cantus firmus in the pedal.
I have all the available sources... anyway, the question you posted about plein jeu was already answered: plein jeu has no reeds anywhere... listen to saorgin and chapuis...
Sorry. I will not discuss with you who are the right players for ancient music or not. Isoir is a modern player STOP! Ancient music players are Saorgin, Focroulle, Chapuis, Chapelet, Koopman, Uriol, Willem Jansen, Alessandrini, van Asperen, Leonhardt, and so on... You stay with your opinion, I stay with mine...
sorry, but isoir and rübsam are not good examples of ancient music players! maybe for romantic or modern music but not for couperin or bach; maybe chapuis, saorgin, koopman...
and I am not playing legato! the reverberation of the church and the configurations of the used sound card make them legato but as you can see is even too much staccato...
this is the registration of the organ... it is not the best organ for french music indeed, but if there are complains, they are not coming for sure from the pein jeu, which can be played on the positive or on the main organ as you know! there are no reeds in the pedal and plein jeu never uses reeds in the pedal: no cromorne, no trumpet, no bombarde! just mixtures and nothing more should be used; you must hear all recordings by chapuis for example...
Very well done! I am an American bumkin and not quite as picky about the registration.
accousticdecay 1 year ago
Reed or no read, leave the proof aside this is a great example.
owenbellmore 3 years ago
Schola Cantorum edition dates from the late 18 Hundreds, not the cutting edge of early music scholarship we have today and that Nuno is IMHO on the cutting edge of.
reallyharried 3 years ago
sorry, but beeing a very famous organist and having recorded ancient works doesn't means nothing.
geheimnisvolle 3 years ago
There are no reeds on the Pedal in your performance, which is perfect. In an authentic performance on a continental instrument, reeds in a plein jeu should never be used, but in England (!), our organs are so dull that a reed of some description is necessary to bring out a CF... Unlike a Cliquot (or even a Cavaille for that matter), the typical English organ is thick and characterless, and certainly doesn't take kindly to part writing!!! Hope I made sense. Regards,
Paul :-)
marsvltor2 3 years ago
Ah, I see... Well, since I am in Portugal, and this is a typical dutch organ, your suggestion and no application doesn´t in this piece. Anyway thanks for your comments. If I go to England one day to play this piece on such an instrument, I won´t forget your suggestion ;)
harpsinuno 3 years ago
As far as I'm aware, plein jeu requires no reeds (unless there is a CF in the pedal, as mentioned above). The reed chorus is only used in grands jeu (as in the big dialogues). Regards, Paul :-)
marsvltor2 3 years ago
But where did you listen reeds in the pedal? There are no reeds in the pedal...
harpsinuno 3 years ago
Yes, you are right. We see for example in pieces by Nicolas de Grigny where you have a plein jeu and the cantus firmus in the pedal. That one needs a reed on the pedal. In this case we do not have a cantus firmus in the pedal.
harpsinuno 4 years ago
I have all the available sources... anyway, the question you posted about plein jeu was already answered: plein jeu has no reeds anywhere... listen to saorgin and chapuis...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
Sorry. I will not discuss with you who are the right players for ancient music or not. Isoir is a modern player STOP! Ancient music players are Saorgin, Focroulle, Chapuis, Chapelet, Koopman, Uriol, Willem Jansen, Alessandrini, van Asperen, Leonhardt, and so on... You stay with your opinion, I stay with mine...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
André Isoir, Marie-Claire Alain, Daniel Roth, Olivier Latry, Jean Guillou, karl Richter, Lionel Rogg are modern players! End of the discussion...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
There are no reeds in the pedal... before writing you should listen carefully...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
sorry, but isoir and rübsam are not good examples of ancient music players! maybe for romantic or modern music but not for couperin or bach; maybe chapuis, saorgin, koopman...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
and I am not playing legato! the reverberation of the church and the configurations of the used sound card make them legato but as you can see is even too much staccato...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
this is the registration of the organ... it is not the best organ for french music indeed, but if there are complains, they are not coming for sure from the pein jeu, which can be played on the positive or on the main organ as you know! there are no reeds in the pedal and plein jeu never uses reeds in the pedal: no cromorne, no trumpet, no bombarde! just mixtures and nothing more should be used; you must hear all recordings by chapuis for example...
harpsinuno 4 years ago
Lisbon Patriacal Chatedral ?!
livre333 4 years ago
I like it, because you play it very good and because, I Like our Monsiuer Francois Couperin. Wonderful ^^
castello18 4 years ago
You have played this with great precision
HumbertoMarquez 4 years ago