Hey I have only one question, Can I use the Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals with the CH Eclipse Yoke? Cause I like the Saitek pedals, but dislike the yoke, on the other hand I like the portability of the CH Yoke! What do you think ?
@flightsimulationguru What are you talking about slide easily of the floor. I just got them and no matter how hard I push it doesn't slide. I dont even use those stickers!
can anyone help me out setting up mine for the differential braking every time I press them they get locked into the brake action although i don't step on them anymore
For those whom want the pedals closer to you body I suggest using a shoe box because you can use it vertically or horizontally and then adjust to it. (note: I use a class desk from the wall so I can't be comfortable with my legs stretched like they are in a racecar while making small adjustments
there are no comfort issues if you wear socks...these pedals are awesome..had em for 8 months now and didnt have to adjust the deadzone yet...great stuff Saitek..
If your are heavy into IL-2 Sturmovik the best WWII combat flight sim out there, rudder pedals are a must in hard turning dogfights. You have more control once you get use to them and it's more realistic than a twist stick.
Drummer's have the same forward sliding problem with the bass drum. Go to a music store and buy one of these devices, they simply clamp on. you should be able to find something that works. Personally I screwed the pedals into a piece of plywood which is under my chair. This is why drummer's setup on full sgeets of plywood, the whole set moves forward, but not the base drum.
Hey, I have a big problem with my toe brakes on this, where when I press down on the toe brakes, it turns on the brake, and differential brakes, too, but the brakes will not turn off. I have to turn on the parking brakes then turn them off to turn the brakes off. Please help!
@Jh30cl The rudder pedals must be used along with the yoke/stick to make coordinated turns where the tail follows the same path as the nose. When turning without rudder, the ass of the plane swings wide (skidding), and if too much rudder is applied, your nose will be outside of the tail (slipping). There is an indicator in the cockpit that tells you if you're coordinated. Coordinated turns are better for the plane, better for fuel, and better for keeping your passengers' lunches inside them.
Ok, so here's a scream of protest (like you predicted) about saying that pedals are relatively unimportant. Ever heard of adverse yaw? Ever heard of doing slips or using cross-control or doing coordinated turns? Ever try to steer a plane on the ground without the aid of differential braking? My guess is that you have never tried to control a real aircraft and as such you do not fully appreciate the importance of pedals. The rudder is the single most effective control surface on an aircraft!
@airste172 Agreed... my point was simply that between a nice flight yolk, throttle controls and rudder (for a simulator) the rudder is the least important for someone trying to prioritize purchases. Also, for basic flight in the simulator the rudder is simply not required although yes in the real world it's very important.
@flightsimulationguru Yes, I've flown ok with just the Saitek Po Flight Yoke, I just used the Prop Pitch as the rudder(It's not as good, but works!) 100=Left and 0=Right 50=Middle!
@flightsimulationguru i think a yolk and pedals comes before a throttle quadrant having experience flying REAL airplanes and airste172 is correct in all his points about rudder control, and i also say this because most of the yolks anyways are sold with throttle controls
I FAILED a test trying to qualify for a scholarship for a pilot education simply because I had got used to not using rudder pedals on 1989 simulator..
To qualify for the test I had to keep the wings level and fly a straight course - of couse the simulator was working against me throwing me off course.
My immediate reaction was to throw the stick in the opposite direction causing the wing so be - not level.
Little imaginations is required to guess how much I scored!
The moment the question got relevant on PC, (aces of the Pacific, Comanche Maximum Overkill), I build a set of pedals myself.
I immediately got acustom to using them and would never dream of flying anything without them. The is no way to fly a helicopter without them. Try to strafe the chopper without them. Impossible!!
I got the yoke + 3 Throttle now, lookin to buy this, and I'm using the left-pointer butten for brakes and the middle throttle control for rudder, not easy but it works. So it is low on the "priority list".
My advice? don't buy them. they worked great for the first year or so and then they got jammed somehow by themselves and never worked again. ch products has much better pedals
How comfortable are the pedals in sock feet? I almost always wear socks. A added some more rubber pads to my rudder pedals to keep them from sliding. I agree with you. I use to never use rudder pedals. It's not that hard, of course I fly jets so I can just turn it completely on it's side and use the elevators.
I have a wooden floor, so I use rubber stick on pads on the base of the pedals, which you can get from a DIY shop. They work for a bit, but when the floor gets dusty the pads pick up dust and become less sticky. Cleaning it helps.
I love these pedals, the grip is really the only problem.
Hello guru, i clicked the link to your review because i'm not sure what rudder pedals to buy (CH or Saitek pro) but when you started to talk, the voice sounded familiar, does bipolar means something special to you? :) If it doesn't don't mind.
I use it with and without shoes and is very confortable. I have it on a wood floor and it only moves if I do a hard movement, which I do not do very often. The Saitek Pro Flgiht yoke system is also really good.
The Pedals and Yoke etc are not made compatable as such but rather are designed for PC's with Windows running and the Drivers are used to allow various extended functiions. The Pedals will work without the Saitek software but you will vbe limited to what XP or Vista "Thinks" they are and what they can do.
CH are much mre reliable, nice review though, i like the part where you said "the rudder is USUALLY located at the rear of the aircraft" ;) I havethe X52 PRO, Love it!
On a civil flight sim like you say you don't think that much of your rudder, however in a WWII Flight Sim like IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 your skill with using your rudder to help you in your turns and hammer stalls may save your life and get you the kill in the end :)
flght simulator detects my new rudder pedals which i installed perfectly but it does not recognise the brakes when i pushed it in..can you tell me what to do... i ty assigning the action but when i push the rudde pedals o assign the action nothing happens
You'r damn right im going to scream at you! It makes your flight simulator time alot, ALOT more realistic(Rudder pedals). But to look away from that, good review:)
is fsx simulated that well that if your flying a single piston engine aircraft like a cessna you get a slipstream effect over the rudder causing the plane to yaw which in turn requires rudder when applying more power and turning?
how do you make the toe brakes work in FSX I also cannot figure out how to make the reverse thrust work??? I am probably setting it up wrong in the sim... any help would be awesome
I tweaked it and it is all working fine now. If anybody needs help with the Just Flight 757 Captain the update is now out but it does not fix the seatbelt sign nor the no smoking sign but everything else is fixed.
Pedal priority is dependant on what you fly. For helicopters, my fav, pedals are invaluable because you use them constantly. Especially while hovering. For me the twist stick just got irritating. Not only is there no elevator trim in most base helo's, but you must also apply constant torque with the wrist to keep them in trim. which increases fatige. I'm not complaining though. Good review, keep it up
Nice carpet.
lb8068 3 weeks ago
Hey I have only one question, Can I use the Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals with the CH Eclipse Yoke? Cause I like the Saitek pedals, but dislike the yoke, on the other hand I like the portability of the CH Yoke! What do you think ?
vtech2608 3 weeks ago
Nice review but please lose the music.
Hoobee26 3 months ago
Amazon mafia hiding behind
AIRIRAQ3 3 months ago
is saitek's rudder pedal wider than logitech g940 rudder?
i mean the distance between two pedals
FataliyaD 3 months ago
Hey Check out proflightsims(dot)org
MIGGYME1 5 months ago
@flightsimulationguru What are you talking about slide easily of the floor. I just got them and no matter how hard I push it doesn't slide. I dont even use those stickers!
keffoo321 5 months ago
@keffoo321 For me it does.
tomcat8492 5 months ago
Narrator sounds like a giant FAGGOT.
GmanSig220 6 months ago
can anyone help me out setting up mine for the differential braking every time I press them they get locked into the brake action although i don't step on them anymore
myzteryhellz 7 months ago
For those whom want the pedals closer to you body I suggest using a shoe box because you can use it vertically or horizontally and then adjust to it. (note: I use a class desk from the wall so I can't be comfortable with my legs stretched like they are in a racecar while making small adjustments
F35FLYER 7 months ago
there are no comfort issues if you wear socks...these pedals are awesome..had em for 8 months now and didnt have to adjust the deadzone yet...great stuff Saitek..
unkowndrunkenfrankli 11 months ago
i have mine on the wood floor and the rubber spots underneth it keep it from sliding
MAF152SEB 1 year ago
@MAF152SEB it comes with Velcro so you can stick both pieces of Velcro to it so it wont slide that's what i did anyway
TheSketchees 1 year ago
If your are heavy into IL-2 Sturmovik the best WWII combat flight sim out there, rudder pedals are a must in hard turning dogfights. You have more control once you get use to them and it's more realistic than a twist stick.
IIJG27Rich 1 year ago
can you use that with ch yoke or any ch producs at same time
FLYER683 1 year ago
nice vid :-) But... you could have taken off the dust of it :-) :-) Will get mine soon, hope it's great as I think it is :-)
blacky75 1 year ago
wera slippers its what i use
shamrock608 1 year ago
its hard as hell for me to set up this to flight sim and as speak i am still trying to set up the brakes on it
pilotdave1000 1 year ago
Drummer's have the same forward sliding problem with the bass drum. Go to a music store and buy one of these devices, they simply clamp on. you should be able to find something that works. Personally I screwed the pedals into a piece of plywood which is under my chair. This is why drummer's setup on full sgeets of plywood, the whole set moves forward, but not the base drum.
aztecking21122012 1 year ago
*SAY-TEK*
iwantpk2 1 year ago
Hey, I have a big problem with my toe brakes on this, where when I press down on the toe brakes, it turns on the brake, and differential brakes, too, but the brakes will not turn off. I have to turn on the parking brakes then turn them off to turn the brakes off. Please help!
44rears 1 year ago
@Jh30cl The rudder pedals must be used along with the yoke/stick to make coordinated turns where the tail follows the same path as the nose. When turning without rudder, the ass of the plane swings wide (skidding), and if too much rudder is applied, your nose will be outside of the tail (slipping). There is an indicator in the cockpit that tells you if you're coordinated. Coordinated turns are better for the plane, better for fuel, and better for keeping your passengers' lunches inside them.
greendaylover12345 1 year ago
i have this and it is just great
trdaredevilclips 1 year ago
Well with most aircraft you can turn the aircraft with that yoke. That is what i do.
Jh30cl 1 year ago
Ok, so here's a scream of protest (like you predicted) about saying that pedals are relatively unimportant. Ever heard of adverse yaw? Ever heard of doing slips or using cross-control or doing coordinated turns? Ever try to steer a plane on the ground without the aid of differential braking? My guess is that you have never tried to control a real aircraft and as such you do not fully appreciate the importance of pedals. The rudder is the single most effective control surface on an aircraft!
airste172 1 year ago 4
@airste172 Agreed... my point was simply that between a nice flight yolk, throttle controls and rudder (for a simulator) the rudder is the least important for someone trying to prioritize purchases. Also, for basic flight in the simulator the rudder is simply not required although yes in the real world it's very important.
flightsimulationguru 1 year ago 12
@flightsimulationguru Yes, I've flown ok with just the Saitek Po Flight Yoke, I just used the Prop Pitch as the rudder(It's not as good, but works!) 100=Left and 0=Right 50=Middle!
Now I've ordered the peddles...
pilot588 1 year ago
@flightsimulationguru i think a yolk and pedals comes before a throttle quadrant having experience flying REAL airplanes and airste172 is correct in all his points about rudder control, and i also say this because most of the yolks anyways are sold with throttle controls
dfx961 1 year ago
@flightsimulationguru
I FAILED a test trying to qualify for a scholarship for a pilot education simply because I had got used to not using rudder pedals on 1989 simulator..
To qualify for the test I had to keep the wings level and fly a straight course - of couse the simulator was working against me throwing me off course.
My immediate reaction was to throw the stick in the opposite direction causing the wing so be - not level.
Little imaginations is required to guess how much I scored!
hhamaildk 9 months ago
@flightsimulationguru
(...continued)
The moment the question got relevant on PC, (aces of the Pacific, Comanche Maximum Overkill), I build a set of pedals myself.
I immediately got acustom to using them and would never dream of flying anything without them. The is no way to fly a helicopter without them. Try to strafe the chopper without them. Impossible!!
hhamaildk 9 months ago
I got the yoke + 3 Throttle now, lookin to buy this, and I'm using the left-pointer butten for brakes and the middle throttle control for rudder, not easy but it works. So it is low on the "priority list".
pilot588 1 year ago
cool a review with no review hmmmm
poerik 1 year ago
i agree the rudders are down the list ejeje... thanks 4 the review
CaptMoo 1 year ago
My advice? don't buy them. they worked great for the first year or so and then they got jammed somehow by themselves and never worked again. ch products has much better pedals
UAHawaii 1 year ago
How comfortable are the pedals in sock feet? I almost always wear socks. A added some more rubber pads to my rudder pedals to keep them from sliding. I agree with you. I use to never use rudder pedals. It's not that hard, of course I fly jets so I can just turn it completely on it's side and use the elevators.
Cokecanninja 1 year ago
@BlueDagger20 No but I highly recommend them because it's a pain in the a** to fly without them. I used to not have them so I know.
playstationrox999 1 year ago
What if you put some Dr.Schol's on it and wore socks?
playstationrox999 1 year ago
I have a wooden floor, so I use rubber stick on pads on the base of the pedals, which you can get from a DIY shop. They work for a bit, but when the floor gets dusty the pads pick up dust and become less sticky. Cleaning it helps.
I love these pedals, the grip is really the only problem.
joolsd 1 year ago
can u help me becasue idk how to assign the brakes to the pedals
sk8rguy4life1123 1 year ago
@BlueDagger20 no you dont, you dont even have to have a joystick, yoke, are throttle to play flightsimulaor.
pilotdude1234 1 year ago
they work perfectly on my fsx
abrinson1996 1 year ago
@abrinson1996 well duh it's Saitek for crying out loud!
playstationrox999 1 year ago
Nice vid! I have right bought me one of those, im still waiting for them. This really helped me alot! Thanks.
mulleolsen 2 years ago
Good review, but, dude, clean them, they are filthy :)
rayend 2 years ago
Hello guru, i clicked the link to your review because i'm not sure what rudder pedals to buy (CH or Saitek pro) but when you started to talk, the voice sounded familiar, does bipolar means something special to you? :) If it doesn't don't mind.
Cheers!
RubInatube 2 years ago
got x52 and the pedals works great
terawattz 2 years ago
my tension wheel dial thingy doesnt turn:(
betterdenu452 2 years ago
how to increase/decrease the tension ?
TexDublee 2 years ago
I use it with and without shoes and is very confortable. I have it on a wood floor and it only moves if I do a hard movement, which I do not do very often. The Saitek Pro Flgiht yoke system is also really good.
gonoje71 2 years ago
do these work on windows xp?
wiiwheel64 2 years ago
Yes
What was stated regarding the rudder is correct , don't forget there are Aircraft that use controls forward and in some cases have no rudder.
As for fixing them why not simply use some flat packing strip to secure them to your chair.
Action and reaction.
I hate the CH pedals BTW
mozzmann 2 years ago
when you get the pedals, do they come with a cd to install the software to make it compatible?
wiiwheel64 2 years ago
The Pedals and Yoke etc are not made compatable as such but rather are designed for PC's with Windows running and the Drivers are used to allow various extended functiions. The Pedals will work without the Saitek software but you will vbe limited to what XP or Vista "Thinks" they are and what they can do.
mozzmann 2 years ago
thanks
wiiwheel64 2 years ago
of course
TutorialThis 2 years ago
yes
planes142 2 years ago
CH are much mre reliable, nice review though, i like the part where you said "the rudder is USUALLY located at the rear of the aircraft" ;) I havethe X52 PRO, Love it!
NavigatorProductions 2 years ago
i wear slippers
thedefiantrebel 2 years ago
On a civil flight sim like you say you don't think that much of your rudder, however in a WWII Flight Sim like IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 your skill with using your rudder to help you in your turns and hammer stalls may save your life and get you the kill in the end :)
bilbommer 2 years ago
4 nails in my floor..problem solved
bilbommer 2 years ago
lol
thedefiantrebel 2 years ago
@bilbommer LOL!!!
playstationrox999 1 year ago
@bilbommer Velcro stripes come with it and they work fine.
Unless you are Sasquach.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
well im not ahat much of a compture guy so on scale of 1 to 10 how hard is the set up and what are some games that would be good on it.
MrFunky81 2 years ago
Very easy to setup... have only tried it on FSX
flightsimulationguru 2 years ago
@MrFunky81 it works well on the LOMAC games aswell (Lock On Modern Air Combat)
AtoZ0to9123456 1 year ago
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Vegasoon 2 years ago
so does it like have rubber on the buttom
MrFunky81 2 years ago
CLEAN YOUR PEDALS !!!! ;o)
CCWaffen 2 years ago 19
haha I have the same ones and there totally way messier
fsC130J 2 years ago
How long is the usb cable?
BeechBaron2012 2 years ago
these pedals also come with suction cups?
lucabadue 2 years ago
flght simulator detects my new rudder pedals which i installed perfectly but it does not recognise the brakes when i pushed it in..can you tell me what to do... i ty assigning the action but when i push the rudde pedals o assign the action nothing happens
edbern007 2 years ago
Does anyone know if these are any good for helicopter sims like Black Shark?
SheepJumpFish 2 years ago
I have the yoke and pedals ive had for about 2 years and they have no problems
A330Airbus 2 years ago
does the rudder pedals work with saitek pro flight yoke system?
Mateusfsxrc3phun 2 years ago
it does
NecroPhil85 2 years ago
yes they do ive had mine for a while and no problems
A330Airbus 2 years ago
I have Ch pedals and they seem more reliable and sturdy than saitek pedals but saitek look better but I could be wrong
phantomsfire980 2 years ago
i was not sure with pedals to buy the CH-Products or Saitek, but now i saw you video and i know now thet i will buy the Saitek Pro Flight Pedals
THX
ElAlcohol 2 years ago
hey everyone just so you know i got those pedals and after i used them they totoally got stuck and were unusable. just be careful what you buy
crazypilotbrn 2 years ago
You'r damn right im going to scream at you! It makes your flight simulator time alot, ALOT more realistic(Rudder pedals). But to look away from that, good review:)
Scandinavian10 2 years ago
is fsx simulated that well that if your flying a single piston engine aircraft like a cessna you get a slipstream effect over the rudder causing the plane to yaw which in turn requires rudder when applying more power and turning?
180sxboosting 2 years ago
I´m having problems with the brakes too
phil7319 2 years ago
did you sore out ya brakes on peddles??
RAM211 2 years ago
I can't BELIEVE this review didn't mention that the tension adjustment isn't a tension adjustment at all. It's actually a dampening adjustment.
Vegasoon 2 years ago
how do you make the toe brakes work in FSX I also cannot figure out how to make the reverse thrust work??? I am probably setting it up wrong in the sim... any help would be awesome
thanks
FlyingPhoAddict 2 years ago
did you sort out peddles brakes
RAM211 2 years ago
I tweaked it and it is all working fine now. If anybody needs help with the Just Flight 757 Captain the update is now out but it does not fix the seatbelt sign nor the no smoking sign but everything else is fixed.
FlyingPhoAddict 2 years ago
thanks
deshapoui 2 years ago
Pedal priority is dependant on what you fly. For helicopters, my fav, pedals are invaluable because you use them constantly. Especially while hovering. For me the twist stick just got irritating. Not only is there no elevator trim in most base helo's, but you must also apply constant torque with the wrist to keep them in trim. which increases fatige. I'm not complaining though. Good review, keep it up
maxdecphoenix 2 years ago
Thankyou for this review, helped a lot!
Danno57 2 years ago
Great Review!
nogo9090 3 years ago