There is a double standard... The immigrants in Mexico get treated like shit... The Central Americans and South Americans come to mexico illegally and get killed. Chinese people in Mexico has to bribe corrupt cops every months in order to stay. Illegals in America get fucking healthcare. Mexican Government should lead by example first, then they have a right to complain.
I think both of those idiots are attacking the wrong issues.Look, if our foreign policy is going to fuck over foreign nationals, they have just as much right to live here where greater "opportunity" is more likely. (that is of course they don't face constant harassment by the US people).Carlos is just sending the wrong message here he's being baseless in his arguments, FOX is always responsible for hiring dumbshits to retaliate their inane bullshit. propaganda+bullshit ignorance
and only mexicans bring in drugs nd all that shit? i think not only them.. oh, come on?! Don't tell me that only they or hispanics in general bring in drugs?.. Other people that arent hispanic do many illegal stuff, legal people or citizens also do other illegal stuff, ...Really?! In General... sum citizens in the USA do just as many bad stuff.. .. oh please! hypocrite's!
hahaha. justice equality and compassion. don't make me laugh. those words may apply if your one of the 79% white americans. hahaha. border fence!? as if it would keep mexicans out of the usa. think long term and start building more jails and prisons.lol. mexicans building prisons to eventually house mexicans. i love it.
No No. Don't build the wall. Why bother? Why spend money? Let them come in the more the merrier. Let them do what they've done to their country. Let them breed and grow like cockroaches. Then what?
Build a wall and secure it. When it rains stupidity. Blowbama is the eye of the storm. He has done nothing but make the U.S. weaker and more easily attacked!
The Mexican spokesman's claim that only 1% of the people in Texas county jails are illegals sounds highly dubious. Otherwise he largely mimics the Obama argument for open borders. Plus the real reason for all the fuss. That the US will become overwhelmed with Hispanics who will then legislate to open up the gates once and for all. So American can live up to its democratic ideals to be a free for all. As stated by the woman, Emma Lazarus, who Obama tells us inspired the Statue of Liberty!!
@sedentarymonkey, there's a certain reality called inflation, and there is that inconvenient progressive annual pay raise, as we advance in our careers. We get older and we spend our earnings to buy cars, houses, furniture, and we take out loans and mortgages, believing our American Dream will last, until someday the bottom falls out of our income, but the bills remain, children need clothes, dental work, educations, etc. With only 24-hours in a day, we tend to need a higher wage to survive.
I believe in a strong border too, but come on...the East Germans spent a billion dollars a year maintaining the Berlin Wall, which had barbed wire, guard towers, patrol boats, mine fields, and attack dogs....and STILL 1,000 people a year managed to cross it. Let's be practical, not political!
Very simple,build the fence and deport the illegals.There are more americans killed by illegals than in both wars.They kidnap americans and send body parts back to their familes.The mexican gangs are in over 200 american cities.
Actually, breaking the law doesn't matter for people. In fact, most people think who is the one breaking them. Immigrants bring neighborhood down? That's pretty funny you mention that because the ones that bringing neighborhood down in my city is thugs and gangsters, not immigrants. That's why i said this is a racial motivation why you are arguing.
I do agree illegal immigration insignificant problem, but there is bigger problem to worry about such as U.S putting its nose in every other countries business, or even how U.S is governing. Yet, you still argue about the how measly immigrants are coming to our land. It seems that racial is your motif. I take it that your parents didn't expose to you to other ethnic groups?
hahah this is funny. So if immigrants are the problem, what are you plan on doing?
What is your point in telling me this? Theres not point in repeating the same thing over and over again. Can you remember what you said earlier "bring facts or don't speak."? I was just stating that your last comment contains so much BS its unbelievable.
I was hoping to convince that your ideas are somewhat wrong. But its like trying to train a dog to read, its just too air headed.
There are more people who actually are citizen in the u.s who milk the cow even more, just tell the business like GM and Ford. Yet, your crying that illegal are milking the cow, please. I know its hard to understand but there is worse thing the illegals taking jobs that we don't want. Try crying for the war in Iraq or those billion dollars hand-out.
Even though, all the things i said are true, which i got from those article, you still deny it. LOL
I'm not sure if your in denial or simply ignorant. Two credible sources contradict what you said, yet you still think you have the right answer. So no matter how many sources people bring, you will still think that you have the right answer?
By the way, if you think immigrant is milking the gov. you must not know about the thousand of u.s citizen who are.
No offense, but if an immigrant is dying or got hurt wouldn't be common sense to send him to an ER like any other countries even though they don't or do have paper? And i think anyone would be glad pay that. Most of the children of immigrant use our school but who said they were immigrants? Please, with those amount of illegal amount of immigrant not paying taxes, there is 5 times the bigger number that normal citizen that do not pay tax.
However they do say that the majority do pay tax and other bills because in order to be residential citizen or become one and for tax purpose also, the illegal alien must have some track record. All in all, saying that immigrant is taking advantage of the Government benefit is false. In fact, in order to get the benefit from their state, they need a SSN.
LMAO, remember what i said earlier? Your contradicting yourself. You said that "Many Mexican ....blah blah" yet you havn't given any proof what you said. Should i qhote what you said in other comments? "Don't Bring facts or don't speak at all"... It's like talking to a dog... In fact, I'm not going to insult dog. You're more like a rat.
"MANYmexicans come up here and dont pay taxes and stuff but they use services use schoolls bring neighborhoods down use hospitals." I'm not sure how to refute this is. This is so simple even a cave man can do it...
How would you know if there wasn't any law already stated in the country? In fact, Native American tribe's wouldn't allow foreigner to be allowed or roam free in their tribe or land in many parts of the North America. Only because it's not written in stone, it shouldn't be discarded that easily.
All in all, the even before U.S was created, there was immigration law.
Here let me explain, when you said "EVERYONE WHO COMES OVER ILLEAGALLY (illeagal immigrants) IS A CRIMINAL! CRIMINALS" this is the remarks that comes to my head; Uneducated, Red Neck, PLAIN stupidity. That's, from you comments, shows me that all your commment are BS.
Here, let me summarize what i said since you didn't bother reading to my comments... Every comment you say doesn't have a fact so let me just repeat what you said, "Bring facts or don't at all." Yet you are speaking even though you didn't say any facts in your last comment.
i guess all the Fox news and anti-immigration media got to you.
You should READ all your news from the web not the t.v. I'm just saying that you shouldn't judge judge people from what you know a little about. Anyways, this land was made by immigrants to immigrants.
A fence is a sad and unjust solution to the U.S.-Mexico border problem. Nobody has to die. The solution is to dissolve the border permanently, and megamerge the two countries permanently under U.S. law, with mass 2-way free migration eventually equalizing development and opportunities. Google "Megamerge: The Dissolution Solution" to read the details.
You sir, are a dumb piece of little shit. Walmart in Mexico pays their employees slave wages. They take advantage of the economic and political conditions and vice versa, Mexicans and the U.S
Build the wall. Obey the law. Come to the USA legal or don't come at all. I like legal immigrants. I do not like illegal aliens in the USA. Pack up and go back home. Got no passport? We deport!
If only it were as simple as you put it. There are so many issues and pull factors that serve as an incentive for illegal immigration (for example cheap labor). They do work under conditions that NO ONE would do without wanting to be paid well beyond the normal salary.
another thing you know Mexican military on the Mexican cartels payroll helps smuggle drugs across the border every day? IMO just because you haven't pinpointed a terrorist coming threw doesn't mean it hasn't happened already, due to underground tunnels up to 3000ft ling and 80 feet deep, being up to 7 feet tall and 4 feet wide? I could go on, but 1 more problem is most of the drugs that enter the us are from Mexico, and I'm not talking about only pot.
if you want in do it legally or get out, abide by the law or leave. get it? they want work? that's fine, do it. want me to come over and start sleeping in your bed, @ your house even if you didn't even invite me in or know me? or even check in with you that I was going to be around? Plus I'm pretty sure this Mexican official is on the take, and planting trees is counter active to the fence being in place.
ey homes i think ur right on this doit legal shit but what can we do we asked 4 it a permision to work the hr4437 was promised to the HARD WORKING MIGRANTS by the us govertment but they dint do shit but to put their border. we tryed to do it legal but it seems like the us prefers wasting mony on a wall than helping what runs the whole us contry .
Is'it wrong when an immigrant tells another immigrant there not wanted? Weren't your forefather who crossed the Atlantic Ocean just to live illegally in America? Don't get me wrong, that turned out to be a good thing but so is todays immigration.
Clearly some comments hear are just blatantly false. For instance when poorly educated people like "Terrikoob" says gibberish yet they don't understand the condition they have to live on the other side of the border. When working is scarce.
Romeo, I'm not an immigrate! I was born and raised here and my ancestors are Native American! You need to go back and watch your cartoons! You are clearly uneducated!
Firstly, I was talking about the Caucasian who is stopping the settlers from moving into a new region. I'm not sure you see yourself as a Caucasian but either way your respond is just stupid. I never did call Native American immigrant. Please don't respond to my comment if you don't understand them.
You call me uneducated because I do not know your past yet you have not refuted any of my argument. Telling people they're uneducated when he himself can not demonstrate one, isn't that uneducated? Rustygaver apply for college and take a debate class because your gibberish only goes to deaf ears.
if you wanna enter the us (im canadian) ... u shud do so legally. kick the illegals out unless they been doin a good job then give em a temp. residence or somethin.
Is'it wrong when an immigrant tells another immigrant there not wanted? Weren't your forefather who crossed the Atlantic Ocean just to live illegally in America? Don't get me wrong, that turned out to be a good thing but so is todays immigration.
Clearly some comments hear are just blatantly false. For instance when poorly educated people like "Terrikoob" says gibberish yet they don't understand the condition they have to live on the other side of the border. When working is scarce.
I HAVE TO, AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE TO,BUT THE OLD WHITE DUDE IS CORRECT .
FEENLOC1 3 weeks ago
There is a double standard... The immigrants in Mexico get treated like shit... The Central Americans and South Americans come to mexico illegally and get killed. Chinese people in Mexico has to bribe corrupt cops every months in order to stay. Illegals in America get fucking healthcare. Mexican Government should lead by example first, then they have a right to complain.
chinesedevildog 7 months ago
weneedmoreminesandbarbedwire. com
nohairguysrevenge 8 months ago
Can anyone answer this question for me?
How come Barack Obama says that fences don't provide security for the United States and he has fences around the White House?
wmanzare 9 months ago
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I think both of those idiots are attacking the wrong issues.Look, if our foreign policy is going to fuck over foreign nationals, they have just as much right to live here where greater "opportunity" is more likely. (that is of course they don't face constant harassment by the US people).Carlos is just sending the wrong message here he's being baseless in his arguments, FOX is always responsible for hiring dumbshits to retaliate their inane bullshit. propaganda+bullshit ignorance
erik4727 10 months ago
and only mexicans bring in drugs nd all that shit? i think not only them.. oh, come on?! Don't tell me that only they or hispanics in general bring in drugs?.. Other people that arent hispanic do many illegal stuff, legal people or citizens also do other illegal stuff, ...Really?! In General... sum citizens in the USA do just as many bad stuff.. .. oh please! hypocrite's!
VHernandezAguaVivaV8 1 year ago
carlos rocks(:
MSKLUMSY503ZFINEST 1 year ago
hahaha. justice equality and compassion. don't make me laugh. those words may apply if your one of the 79% white americans. hahaha. border fence!? as if it would keep mexicans out of the usa. think long term and start building more jails and prisons.lol. mexicans building prisons to eventually house mexicans. i love it.
jackngo2 1 year ago
No No. Don't build the wall. Why bother? Why spend money? Let them come in the more the merrier. Let them do what they've done to their country. Let them breed and grow like cockroaches. Then what?
wpan66 1 year ago
Build a wall and secure it. When it rains stupidity. Blowbama is the eye of the storm. He has done nothing but make the U.S. weaker and more easily attacked!
DOGLUV007 1 year ago
when you are gonna watch an other video remember to lower the volume
klarc 1 year ago
The Mexican spokesman's claim that only 1% of the people in Texas county jails are illegals sounds highly dubious. Otherwise he largely mimics the Obama argument for open borders. Plus the real reason for all the fuss. That the US will become overwhelmed with Hispanics who will then legislate to open up the gates once and for all. So American can live up to its democratic ideals to be a free for all. As stated by the woman, Emma Lazarus, who Obama tells us inspired the Statue of Liberty!!
kalumnist 1 year ago
@sedentarymonkey, there's a certain reality called inflation, and there is that inconvenient progressive annual pay raise, as we advance in our careers. We get older and we spend our earnings to buy cars, houses, furniture, and we take out loans and mortgages, believing our American Dream will last, until someday the bottom falls out of our income, but the bills remain, children need clothes, dental work, educations, etc. With only 24-hours in a day, we tend to need a higher wage to survive.
borderraven 1 year ago
I believe in a strong border too, but come on...the East Germans spent a billion dollars a year maintaining the Berlin Wall, which had barbed wire, guard towers, patrol boats, mine fields, and attack dogs....and STILL 1,000 people a year managed to cross it. Let's be practical, not political!
BeyondTheSpectrum08 2 years ago
Very simple,build the fence and deport the illegals.There are more americans killed by illegals than in both wars.They kidnap americans and send body parts back to their familes.The mexican gangs are in over 200 american cities.
cowboybill117 2 years ago
@cowboybill117
May you please share the sources from which you have gotten such premises?
I would love to know where you got that information.
azukita18 1 year ago
Actually, breaking the law doesn't matter for people. In fact, most people think who is the one breaking them. Immigrants bring neighborhood down? That's pretty funny you mention that because the ones that bringing neighborhood down in my city is thugs and gangsters, not immigrants. That's why i said this is a racial motivation why you are arguing.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
I do agree illegal immigration insignificant problem, but there is bigger problem to worry about such as U.S putting its nose in every other countries business, or even how U.S is governing. Yet, you still argue about the how measly immigrants are coming to our land. It seems that racial is your motif. I take it that your parents didn't expose to you to other ethnic groups?
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
hahah this is funny. So if immigrants are the problem, what are you plan on doing?
What is your point in telling me this? Theres not point in repeating the same thing over and over again. Can you remember what you said earlier "bring facts or don't speak."? I was just stating that your last comment contains so much BS its unbelievable.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
I was hoping to convince that your ideas are somewhat wrong. But its like trying to train a dog to read, its just too air headed.
There are more people who actually are citizen in the u.s who milk the cow even more, just tell the business like GM and Ford. Yet, your crying that illegal are milking the cow, please. I know its hard to understand but there is worse thing the illegals taking jobs that we don't want. Try crying for the war in Iraq or those billion dollars hand-out.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
Even though, all the things i said are true, which i got from those article, you still deny it. LOL
I'm not sure if your in denial or simply ignorant. Two credible sources contradict what you said, yet you still think you have the right answer. So no matter how many sources people bring, you will still think that you have the right answer?
By the way, if you think immigrant is milking the gov. you must not know about the thousand of u.s citizen who are.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
No offense, but if an immigrant is dying or got hurt wouldn't be common sense to send him to an ER like any other countries even though they don't or do have paper? And i think anyone would be glad pay that. Most of the children of immigrant use our school but who said they were immigrants? Please, with those amount of illegal amount of immigrant not paying taxes, there is 5 times the bigger number that normal citizen that do not pay tax.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
However they do say that the majority do pay tax and other bills because in order to be residential citizen or become one and for tax purpose also, the illegal alien must have some track record. All in all, saying that immigrant is taking advantage of the Government benefit is false. In fact, in order to get the benefit from their state, they need a SSN.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
meanwhile, look what at those articles that contradict what you said.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
In fact, if you don't believe your getting the wrong information from FOX read this article from Associate Press about illegal Aliens and taxes:
azcentral(dot) com/business/articles/2008/04/10/20080410biz-TaxingImmigrants-10.html
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
Sorry your supposedly "proof" failed to show me the page.
How about this page; reason(dot)org/news/show/122411.html
Substitute the "(dot)" with a ". " (period)
This page will contradict what you said about "illegal alien milking the Government."
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
LMAO, remember what i said earlier? Your contradicting yourself. You said that "Many Mexican ....blah blah" yet you havn't given any proof what you said. Should i qhote what you said in other comments? "Don't Bring facts or don't speak at all"... It's like talking to a dog... In fact, I'm not going to insult dog. You're more like a rat.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
Now, another thing you said that was ridiculous,
"MANYmexicans come up here and dont pay taxes and stuff but they use services use schoolls bring neighborhoods down use hospitals." I'm not sure how to refute this is. This is so simple even a cave man can do it...
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
How would you know if there wasn't any law already stated in the country? In fact, Native American tribe's wouldn't allow foreigner to be allowed or roam free in their tribe or land in many parts of the North America. Only because it's not written in stone, it shouldn't be discarded that easily.
All in all, the even before U.S was created, there was immigration law.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
Wait, let me get this straight, so if I made a u-turn down the street where i shouldn't be doing it, I'm officially a criminal and should be punish?
Does that also mean that the for fathers who created the this country were criminal and the son's and daughters of criminal like Washington?
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
Well, isn't what you saying BS?
Here let me explain, when you said "EVERYONE WHO COMES OVER ILLEAGALLY (illeagal immigrants) IS A CRIMINAL! CRIMINALS" this is the remarks that comes to my head; Uneducated, Red Neck, PLAIN stupidity. That's, from you comments, shows me that all your commment are BS.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
Here, let me summarize what i said since you didn't bother reading to my comments... Every comment you say doesn't have a fact so let me just repeat what you said, "Bring facts or don't at all." Yet you are speaking even though you didn't say any facts in your last comment.
Who's the moron now? Thank you :)
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
lol why would i read what you say, its mainly bullshit and ignorance your showing. Again, you didn't say any facts. Constricting yourself again?
Bring facts or don't speak! lol remember who said that?
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
I'm sorry it's because there was so much BS coming from your mouth, it was impossible to filter out the stuff you were saying.
All in all, your a moron that contradict yourself. You said "bring facts or don't speak." yet you just type that but you didn't say any facts.
So the only person who shouldn't be speaking is you.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
i guess all the Fox news and anti-immigration media got to you.
You should READ all your news from the web not the t.v. I'm just saying that you shouldn't judge judge people from what you know a little about. Anyways, this land was made by immigrants to immigrants.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 2 years ago
tax money not being spent towards the ppl who pay them...for one. associated crime from illegals, two.
teknikolor 2 years ago
A fence is a sad and unjust solution to the U.S.-Mexico border problem. Nobody has to die. The solution is to dissolve the border permanently, and megamerge the two countries permanently under U.S. law, with mass 2-way free migration eventually equalizing development and opportunities. Google "Megamerge: The Dissolution Solution" to read the details.
historyscoper 2 years ago
i'd prefer to not adopt mexico's problems by dissolving the border. integrating with a third world country, good lucking persuading that LOLOLOL.
teknikolor 2 years ago
You sir, are a dumb piece of little shit. Walmart in Mexico pays their employees slave wages. They take advantage of the economic and political conditions and vice versa, Mexicans and the U.S
MetalBassjunkie420 2 years ago
Your life must really suck. Blaming all your problems on Mexicans. Go kill yourself. Thanks.
MetalBassjunkie420 2 years ago
Build the wall. Obey the law. Come to the USA legal or don't come at all. I like legal immigrants. I do not like illegal aliens in the USA. Pack up and go back home. Got no passport? We deport!
borderraven 3 years ago 3
@borderraven
If only it were as simple as you put it. There are so many issues and pull factors that serve as an incentive for illegal immigration (for example cheap labor). They do work under conditions that NO ONE would do without wanting to be paid well beyond the normal salary.
azukita18 1 year ago
@azukita18, yes it is unfortunate that the American Dream is not free, but it comes with monthly bills.
borderraven 1 year ago
Oooo0ooo0ooo Cracka Got Owed In Dat Lil Debate
TERRYL50G 3 years ago
1 more thing, the people that bombed the twin tower were smuggled in as Students, not threw New Your ports like this guy says.
toxxxic22 3 years ago
another thing you know Mexican military on the Mexican cartels payroll helps smuggle drugs across the border every day? IMO just because you haven't pinpointed a terrorist coming threw doesn't mean it hasn't happened already, due to underground tunnels up to 3000ft ling and 80 feet deep, being up to 7 feet tall and 4 feet wide? I could go on, but 1 more problem is most of the drugs that enter the us are from Mexico, and I'm not talking about only pot.
toxxxic22 3 years ago
if you want in do it legally or get out, abide by the law or leave. get it? they want work? that's fine, do it. want me to come over and start sleeping in your bed, @ your house even if you didn't even invite me in or know me? or even check in with you that I was going to be around? Plus I'm pretty sure this Mexican official is on the take, and planting trees is counter active to the fence being in place.
toxxxic22 3 years ago
ey homes i think ur right on this doit legal shit but what can we do we asked 4 it a permision to work the hr4437 was promised to the HARD WORKING MIGRANTS by the us govertment but they dint do shit but to put their border. we tryed to do it legal but it seems like the us prefers wasting mony on a wall than helping what runs the whole us contry .
numeracion1234 3 years ago
Is'it wrong when an immigrant tells another immigrant there not wanted? Weren't your forefather who crossed the Atlantic Ocean just to live illegally in America? Don't get me wrong, that turned out to be a good thing but so is todays immigration.
Clearly some comments hear are just blatantly false. For instance when poorly educated people like "Terrikoob" says gibberish yet they don't understand the condition they have to live on the other side of the border. When working is scarce.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 3 years ago
Romeo, I'm not an immigrate! I was born and raised here and my ancestors are Native American! You need to go back and watch your cartoons! You are clearly uneducated!
rustygaver 3 years ago
Firstly, I was talking about the Caucasian who is stopping the settlers from moving into a new region. I'm not sure you see yourself as a Caucasian but either way your respond is just stupid. I never did call Native American immigrant. Please don't respond to my comment if you don't understand them.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 3 years ago
You call me uneducated because I do not know your past yet you have not refuted any of my argument. Telling people they're uneducated when he himself can not demonstrate one, isn't that uneducated? Rustygaver apply for college and take a debate class because your gibberish only goes to deaf ears.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 3 years ago
this guy is a fucking ass wipe he thinks mexicans dont do nothing wrong, no they are only TERRORIZING our country. he is for his people.
terrikoob 3 years ago
oh boy TERRORIZING you make laugh...
nepthaly7 3 years ago
I agree get the fucking fence built.
terrikoob 3 years ago
maybe the AMERICANS need to start taking matters into our own hands against the invasion against these terroriest.
terrikoob 3 years ago
if you wanna enter the us (im canadian) ... u shud do so legally. kick the illegals out unless they been doin a good job then give em a temp. residence or somethin.
wade2bosh 3 years ago 2
If Mexico would do their job....the illegal wouldn't be coming to America! Build it Fast!!!
rustygaver 3 years ago
mexico needs to take care of there own fucking people.
terrikoob 3 years ago
Is'it wrong when an immigrant tells another immigrant there not wanted? Weren't your forefather who crossed the Atlantic Ocean just to live illegally in America? Don't get me wrong, that turned out to be a good thing but so is todays immigration.
Clearly some comments hear are just blatantly false. For instance when poorly educated people like "Terrikoob" says gibberish yet they don't understand the condition they have to live on the other side of the border. When working is scarce.
RomeoneedsaJuliet 3 years ago
there wasn't law, like there is now.
teknikolor 2 years ago