I'm a regular velomobile user and I would not behave like you did. You had a decent width of hard shoulder/cycle lane to use but you chose to antagonize drivers instead by pretending to be a car - you're not a car, you're a bike.The fact you were 'beeped at' is not surprising and waving at them must really wind them up - you need to be careful, you might wave at the wrong person one day. Behave properly and help to give us a better reputation with drivers.
@joyscreamofseagulls, as a "regular velomobile user", you are maintaining the same misconceptions about safe cycling as other cyclists and other road users. I do not choose to antagonize driver by pretending to be a car. I'm not a car, I'm a cyclist, with the same rights (safety) and responsibilities as other road users.
Consider to take a cycling safety course and learn how to operate safely on roadways before you criticize another regular velomobile driver.
I wave at everybody who honks at me, with all five fingers of one hand. It's unlikely that I'll wave at the wrong person. I am not responsible for your reputation, nor are you responsible for mine. If you choose to endanger yourself by riding in the gutter, so be it. Look for helping motorists with lane position on the commute orlando web site and learn just a bit more than you think you know now.
@freddotu . I agree with your comments on having the same rights and responsibilitiies as other road users and I too ride as a 'Vehicular' cyclist and all that it entails but given a good stretch of cycle lane, I'd use that because not doing so is going to annoy some drivers - regardless of rights and responsibilities.
By the way, I don't take kindly to being told to take a 'cycling safety course' - You know nothing about me or my cycling activities. I gave you my opinion on your video.
@joyscreamofseagulls, someone who is aware of vehicular cycling should recognize that the "shoulder" in this video is not a shoulder, nor is it of sufficient width to permit safe cycling. The segment of commute orlando web site I referenced is one that shows proper (centered) lane position is easier for motorists and results in less "annoyance" and that has been my experience.
i love how cyclists all say they want respect, but yet they don't wanna respect a cars ability to go much faster than a bike. and they wanna use up a lane when there is a big ass shoulder that'd be perfect to ride on, i'm all for riding, but not when it's going to impede the flow of traffic
@charlietow, you won't get respect from me with an attitude like that. Drivers will not give safe passing distance to gutter bunnies and endanger the cyclist by passing too closely. Inferiority cycling habits are unsafe. You can choose to endanger yourself as much as you like.
Motor vehicles weigh thousands of pounds and drivers do not recognize their responsibilities when operating such masses.
I don't impede traffic, I am traffic, with all the rights of other road users.
@freddotu the attitude you have is exactly what i'm talking about.. "I don't impede traffic, I am traffic" you're being inconsiderate slowing traffic down. like i said i'm all for riding, i live in a busy city, when i ride, if there's a sidewalk i ride on that, even though i know what the law states, i'm not one of those.. "i have the same rights as cars, so i'm gonna take up a whole lane on a 2 lane street" yuppies. i do understand what it is to be in a hurry. it's called empathy
@charlietow, if drivers would show this consideration you preach, there would be no problem with gutter bunny riding habits. Drivers lack any real understanding of safe driving, so I have to ride in a manner which ensures my safety as much as possible. Sidewalk riding is far more dangerous than you realize. You also don't recognize that most of the drivers have zero problems with changing lanes safely and continuing on their way.
@steveeeeboi, some parts of the city have similar signs posted, but it's rarely enforced. It's about three times as dangerous to ride on a sidewalk, and pedestrians would not appreciate my 20 mph travel speed, I'm sure.
@charlietow You could argue that pedestrians are inconsiderate for walking in front of you when you ride on the sidewalk in exactly the same fashion. However, the law favors pedestrians in all cases, which means you are a vehicle.
How about using that bike lane to your right? After all, you are on a bicycle. If you can't ride in the bicycle lane because you feel it's to dangerous on that road, then maybe you need more skill to ride on that road before you ride it. You are making the road dangerous for everyone else with you actions.
@mikef4irider, thank you for your uninformed comment. It may look like a bike lane, but it is not a bike lane. The two classes I've taken, including a cycling safety instructors certification class validate my operation in the manner shown. It is not dangerous to ride on that road. I am not making the road dangerous for everyone else with my actions. Roads are not dangerous, although ignorant, inconsiderate and unskilled drivers can be.
get off the road! is it really worth the danger to you and everything else? ps you can be pulled over for being too slow and you can be charged with passive aggressive driving (not keeping up with an appropriate speed and forcing others to deal with your, non aggressive, shitty driving)
@tenisguy10, as is typical of so many comments, you are completely incorrect. I am not endangering anyone and am operating in the safest manner allowed by law. I have been pulled over and have been cited, and the citations have been dismissed as groundless. You don't have a clue, and I don't expect you to find one.
@freddotu ok so if thats true than so you are keeping up with traffic, and your not being passive aggressive and not holding anyone back or slowing traffic at all. am i right so far? so because of your courteous, totally legal, and safe behavior people just want to honk and go around you... just for fun... right? :) i hope you realize how much of an idiot you sound like.
@tenisguy10, you have shown me to be correct. You do not have a clue and have not found one. Your lack of understanding shows how much of an idiot you can be, if you try a bit harder. Don't research LAB Traffic Skills 101 or visit c y c l i n g s a v v y (dot) c o m and remain ignorant of safe cycling, that way you can continue to criticize me based on information you don't have.
@freddotu ok thing is no matter what some website says or what the law is , that doesn't make what your doing right or ok. recently a anti bullying law was passed in michigan but the thing it says you can bully someone as long as it is part of your faith or you have a "good reason". some really stupid laws have been passed and no matter what you or your almighty written from God website says you still are impeding trafic and people have to go around you.
@freddotu you do increase the chance of an accident of the people around you weather you want to or not, you do. your an obstacle in the road and people must avoid you and. sorry but no law can argue with the fact that when motorists must avoid a slow car or any obstacle it increases risk and chance of accident on the road.
@tenisguy10, take a look at commuteorlando (dot) com for the segment "Helping motorists with lane positioning" and you'll see that a driver coming up on a cyclist on the edge of the road has far less time to make safe decisions than a driver approaching a cyclist in the center of a sub-standard width lane. The level of risk is substantially reduced, not increased and that has been my experience.
@freddotu just because your doing the least damage doesn't make it ok! i understand you doing the less dangerous thing but never the less over all your increasing danger increasing danger less than someone that is riding on the side of the road but never the less you are increasing rick, chance of accident. theoretically say that a biker on the side of the road increases risk 20% and a rider in the the middle of the road increases risk 10% your still increasing risk.
@freddotu your right life is risky! my point is i dont appreciate you adding to the danger that is already posed by driving every day. im sure everyone else feels the same way, i dont walk around with grenades strapped to me just because life is already risky, because it would add to the risk! but by your logic, who cares!? lets make houses out of duraflame fire-start logs, and coat the roads in oil, life is already risky, who cares if someones adds just another risk factor?
@tenisguy10, you're out of your mind. It does not matter that you dislike that I ride a bicycle, as your opinion in this matter is of no value. This discussion ends now.
freddotu, would you kindly kick the bucket already? stop draining our social security system, our nation's government needs those funds for more important things, ya crazy old coot.
@unclevancandy, that's quite an inane comment. I've many years before I begin to use the social security system and don't plan to depend on it in the least. You wish me to be dead? Thanks for your consideration. Go away.
@freddotu your videos and behavior are inane. I have a sneaking suspicion you're entire life is inane! I don't care if it's your sole retirement income or not, don't drain it! the government needs those funds for other programs. I will not "go away"
i desire harm for people like you and my view is not distorted u idiot, ur view is distorted because you cant see what wrong your doing, and its not the size of the vehicle lets not act like children. You know what your doing is wrong,yr a human being in a small "vehicle" ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD! of course people are gonna be mad when they have to slow down/move for your stupid ass. Your a fucken loser and yea i am tapped. I would run u over,reverse,run u over again,reverse and do it all again
@aigalew34, you can continue to hold this misconception as much as you'd like. It does not change that your foundation for this misconception is incorrect. Your mastery of the language is barely tolerable. Please identify yourself so I can notify local authorities of the danger to society that you represent.
your the one going out with a video camera to go instigate problems by abusing your little lane you have, i guess it isnt big enough so u go out and ride ur stupid yellow tricycle in other peoples way's just for your own satisfaction.i hate people like you so much. i would hit u with my side view mirror and keep it moving
@aigalew34, you have a distorted view of reality. I don't understand why such a small vehicle threatens people so much. Your desire to harm others would indicate that you should seek professional counseling.
@aigalew34, it's always heart warming to get a comment from someone like you, who wishes harm on another human being. Your parents must be rather proud of you for that aspect of your personality. The ignorance lies in your comment and you have my sympathy for your handicaps.
@freddotu you are the one being ignorant, there is a bike lane yet you decide to ride on the way of the cars.. If people like you get hurt, you are getting no sympathy from anyone else but yourself
@iAngryPigs, ignorant means to not be aware of certain information. There is no bike lane in this video. You are ignorant of this fact. You are also ignorant of safe cycling practices with respect to sub-standard width lanes and other considerations which permit using the entire lane. Safe cycling practices are poorly understood. I don't require nor desire sympathy from anyone. Rude, stupid, inconsiderate and dangerous drivers don't have my sympathy and should not be supported by attacking me.
@AridersLife, my opinion is you're unaware of the difference between a bike lane and a paint stripe on the road. Bike lanes are not the sole answer to safe cycling and in many cases are far more dangerous than operating in the lane. There is not a skip lane or bike lane in this video.
@Boosted94Supra, I see your mastery of the language is on a par with cleve101's, that is to say, not so good. You can say it's a bike lane, but that doesn't change the fact that it isn't. You have no foundation on which to base your statement. I travel this route on a regular basis and there are no bike lane signs or markings. Take your abusive epithets elsewhere.
@freddotu Bicyclists that think they are just fine causing traffic jams and causing a potential dangerous situation on the road are the rude people. If you are slowing down traffic, YOU are the issue here. You and all bicyclists that think the road was designed for them and have no courtesy need to wake up. If you want to ride on the road, fine. Stay off the busy roads, especially during rush hour times, and get out of the way of vehicles.
@jasonp31, what part of public roads do you not understand. There is no issue here at all, other than distracted, inconsiderate and unskilled drivers. As a legitimate road user, I do not "get out of the way of vehicles" any more than you get out of the way of other drivers on the roadway. Courtesy is meaningless when safety is foremost.
You don't have a clue, and I don't expect you to find one anytime soon.
@freddotu Oh I have a very good clue about people like you. You think you are entitled to whatever you want. You love the power you feel when you go out and slow down traffic and agitate others. If safety is "foremost", then you wouldn't be going 5 mph around other vehicles traveling much faster. People don't have an issue with you being on the road. We do have an issue when you cause traffic jams and have no courtesy for others, going out on busy roads. You are the one without a clue.
@jasonp31, here's a suggestion that you probably won't follow, because it will clearly show that you are in error. Search for "effective cycling" or "cycling savvy" (that's two of the letter V, not a W) or visit the very well done web page of commuteorlando (d o t) c o m for plenty of examples why your misconception is just that.
I don't agitate others, I travel by bicycle in the safest manner possible. I don't cause traffic jams, that's just an infantile reaction.
I don't post videos of the thousands of drivers each week who simply change lanes safely and continue on their way. If there is heavy traffic, I'm traveling at the same speed. If traffic is light, drivers change lanes. If you had a clue, and perhaps a safe cycling course under your belt, you would not be so incorrect in your assessment of my riding practices.
There is no bike lane you faggots. Just because there is a pullover lane doesn't mean they have to ride in it. Technically they shouldn't but it isn't illegal.
Uploader of the video is obviously one of those ignorant people who just believe they're right all the time. Until he gets hit by a car or theres an accident because of him, he probably won't even think twice about his idiocracy. (Isn't even a word though....)
@wussytaco, commenter on this video is obviously one of those ignorant people who knows little to nothing about safe cycling practices, probably never having taken a cycling course in his entire life. You'll probably never realize that the positive comments for safe cycling are made by people who are intelligent enough to recognize how well things can and do work. I'm far less likely to be involved in a crash (not accident) riding in this manner and more than 22,500 miles proves it.
@freddotu No, he's completely right. Good for you you're riding a bike, but you don't have to do it in a way that very obviously creates some unhappy motorists. Stay in the bike lane, or at least hug the white line when there is traffic... I ride bikes on the road too and you sure as hell aren't making it safe for either yourself or other commuters.
@Heaton08, when you "hug the white line" you are putting yourself in a position of greater risk from unskilled or distracted motorists. Visit commuteorlando (dot) com and look for the article "helping motorists with lane positioning" or type that phrase into your preferred search engine and the first result returned will explain why it works, with video. Take a cycling safety course and learn even more.
@kantro24, regardless of what you believe, bicycles and other road users can work together. I have thousands of miles over many years with very few problems. These roads take me where I need to go, and most drivers have no problem at all. Such misconceptions do not benefit anyone.
@CaptainCocaine not sure I saw a bike lane there... even if that was a bike lane he doesn't HAVE to ride in it, asshole. Could be covered in gravel, potholes, or other obstructions. Still can share the road with motorists, unfortunately motorists make it hard to share because they all act like they're on coke like you, Cap'n.
@aarossell, the majority of the roads on which I travel do not have bike lanes. This particular roadway has a striped segment that is not a bike lane, although many people on bikes ride there, some of them facing traffic! Because my velomobile is low, I have to deal with traffic masking, in that other vehicles will hide me from traffic. Even with a bike lane, I control the lane to eliminate that risk. Most of the roads on which I drive are four lanes or more, so there's plenty of room.
@D13fledermause, if a cyclist decided to not ride in a bike lane for safety reasons, other road users should make allowances. Cars don't get mad, unless one lives in a cartoon world, but drivers can be unreasonable, inconsiderate and dangerous operators.
@D13fledermause, not riding in the bike lane, riding in a safe manner does not preclude my right to complain about dangerous drivers. About the car thing, it's a human being allegedly in control of the motor vehicle. There is a valid distinction. People talk about dangerous roads, but I've never been hurt by a dangerous road. Drivers can make the road dangerous, and do, and avoiding the distinction is one way of avoiding recognizing that.
@EmptyTheRoom, it's not a bike lane and I won't ride in an unsafe location on the roadway. Motorists can change lanes as it's a four lane roadway. Many people on bikes do not know safe cycling practices and are quick to criticize those who do.
@scytheboy, your understanding of safe cycling practices are not correct. Safety is never selfish and despite your suggestion, my experiences indicate that other traffic is better able to handle my riding than previous riding at the edge of the road.
Safety IS selfish when you say, "My safety is more important than yours". You did that the second you took the lane cars travel in and forced others to change lanes to avoid you.
For drivers they have to maintain a minimum speed limit by law. Why? It creates a traffic hazard otherwise. So when you take that thing and travel in the car lane you're basically acting like a slow car. Making it VERY unsafe for others.
@scytheboy, unless you have taken safe cycling training, I would not expect you to understand why this works. I would not expect you to understand anything based on the erroneous suppositions you present.
Traveling anywhere has some risks. I minimize those risks as best as I can. If a driver is delayed 10 seconds or thirty seconds, it is insignificant. Traffic lights delay motorists for more than 30 seconds.
You don't understand why edge-of-the-road cycling is dangerous.
@scytheboy whoa, so... you're saying if traffic is slow, you HAVE to maintain minimum speed limit, no matter what? What about safety? Cars and bikes share the road, and if everyone starts with that, traffic is manageable and simple...
In summation, by your own account you state that traveling there is unsafe. Perhaps it would be the safest for all concerned that you don't travel there. Of course I'm sure your ego would say otherwise.
@scytheboy, I ride where I need to, and especially on four lane roads or wider, because it delays other road users less than the two lane roads.
Why is it that a trained cyclist is being interpreted as having an overblown ego? Consider some cycling safety training, get educated, and understand how it works and especially THAT IT WORKS.
@scytheboy Goddamn... you are horrible. Man, he has the fucking right to ride wherever he wants, just as you do. The road is the place for bicycle travel, please get used to it or else you'll succumb to road rage like other assholes who kill bicyclists and motorists.
They really need to be more open to making you a lane of travel so not only are you not holding up traffic but also it's safer for you to travel places without having to worry about impatient motorists
@Kartracer6, I don't require a special lane to travel in a safe manner. On the multi-lane roads I ride, motorists usually have little trouble to change lanes and continue on their way. I don't hold up traffic.
@freddotu I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed there, but sadly the way people drive in such a selfish manner it does make it unsafe for you. Which is sad cause you should be allowed there
@Kartracer6, most motorists are able to handle a bicycle (or a velomobile) in the lane with zero problems. I had been cycling in a less safe manner for many years and merely tolerated the close calls and rude drivers. Those instances have been greatly reduced and my cycling enjoyment has increased, along with safety.
so you caused the car drivers a couple of seconds of their precious life robbing them of the precious seconds to reach home to sit on the couch for hours watching TV munching on a bag of greasy potato chips and drinking high calorie beer and a tub of ice cream while they waste their life away
@patinsley, it's not a bike lane, and it's unsafe to ride in such a position. You're not aware of the rights of cyclists to ensure their safety when riding. I'm not ever going to be a car, either.
@SCRTpilot , In this state (Florida) and in many other states in the USA, a cyclist is permitted the entire lane for safety reasons. Many cyclists do not know this and there are some conditions. The lane width is important and lanes of less than fourteen feet in width (4.25m) are too narrow for a motor vehicle and bicycle to share, side-by-side.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, an amusing comment. Educated and trained cyclists will recongize that the basis for your comment is meaningless. Uneducated and untrained cyclists don't know how to operate safely on roadways and fear doing so. Research vehicular cycling or visit commute orlando blog and become an educated and trained cyclist, or just stay off the road.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, it works for me, for over 6000 miles and it works for many cyclists who understand safe cycling. Your abusive comments are meaningless and if you think education is of no value, that's fine. Get off my case, or take a cycling course and learn what it really means, or both.
freddotu, when "education" is defined as "freddotu's unfounded dogma", yeah, it's of no value. it's important in some cases to take a lane. the situation in this vid isn't it, and pretending you've more road experience than all disputants is ludicrous.
you're pissing off dangerous people who may go on to fuck others. that it "works" for you means dick. without riders like you, intelligent and respectful cyclists would have little trouble with the morons.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, do you think I made this stuff up? I took a couple classes put on by a national organization which promotes safe cycling. I'm not "pissing off" anyone with half a brain, capable of independent thinking.
The video does not present enough information for anyone to be attacking me for my operating practices.
My safety is utmost when operating on roadways with multi-ton motor vehicles driven by distracted, often unskilled drivers.
doubt you're capable of making something up, given your dogged fallacious clinging to merit badges, otherwise known as argument by authority, here with a smattering of 50,000,000 elvis fans can't be wrong. the video shows that you had room to get out of the way, since you're blocking the lane without any reason except "what i was told". your constant referral to "training" is simply a silly way of pretending an opinion isn't an opinion, but rather received divine truth. for fools.
I do not "get out of the way" in circumstances that endanger me. "Getting out of the way" is the practice of inferiority cycling, the belief that other road users have greater priority to the use of the road, at the expense of safety. If a person on a bike believes that he should get out of the way, he should not be riding at all.
You refer to my training and reject it. I have experience in both manners of riding and you reject it. I now cease to argue with a fool.
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, I think you're missing the point. I've experienced the inferiority cyclist practices and found it lacking. I've taken the training and experienced the other side of the coin. It's safer, it's easier, it is far more enjoyable. Despite what you may think, other road users have become less of a problem for me and I am less of a problem for them. That is my experience. When you've taken the steps, then your experiences will bear it out as well.
Another bicyclist enjoying being an asshole by blocking faster moving motor vehicles. Being "legally right" is not going to be of much comfort to you when a car runs over your slow moving bicycle from the rear. Taking responsibility for your own safety by using common sense is something that you are clearly not doing.
@CaneFu, one might guess that you are a motorist being an asshole who does not understand cycling safety. Being legally right means nothing when it comes to being able to operate safely on a roadway. I've taken cycling safety courses and have a far better understanding of this sort of activity than your comment indicates.
After more than five thousand miles operating in this safe manner lets me know your comment is baseless.
@freddotu If you've taken cycling safety courses than you never heard the instructor when he said, "avoid taking unnecessary risks and riding in dangerous situations" which is exactly what you are doing here. You have set yourself up to be the victim in this video and want sympathy for it. I would compare your behavior to a woman wearing a string bikini while she walks through a high crime area at 2 AM and then screaming rape when the inevitable happens.
@CaneFu, I have many miles of experience to prove otherwise. I have far more miles prior to the aforementioned training, operating in fear and in an inferior manner on the roads. Comparing the level of safety of the two types of riding, the traffic-safe method works by far.
For your counseling, I suggest taking a legitimate cycling skills course, taught by a qualified instructor, not a fear-monger.
@freddotu Sorry pal, but that line of BS you tried to post here doesn't work. The fact is that you are blocking traffic in your videos and are only posting here because no one has run you over yet through no skill of your own. Long lines of cars waiting behind you in your videos only prove how fortunate you have been so far. Your behavior is irresponsible at best and suicidal at worst - one day your luck may run out and you will have no one to blame but yourself.
@CaneFu, well, pal, the line of information I have posted here does work. You don't have a clue, do you? I'm not blocking traffic on a four lane road and other road users with some sense have no problem changing lanes.
Thousands of cyclists are getting educated on a regular basis, making them safer on the roads.
Get a clue or get over it. A bicyclist on the roadway isn't a threat to you, get off my case.
@10blood, the "rules" as you suggest appear to be beyond your comprehension. Consider before making your next post to research League of American Bicyclists Traffic Skills 101, or search for "Street Smarts" for your state or any state in the US. You may learn something about safe cycling.
Or you may not, but as noted above, get off my case. When you do not have the education, you have no valid reference to criticize me.
As far as "dude" goes, I simply responded in kind.
@freddotu You're daft. I don't have to look up "street smarts" how to fucking ride. The last time I was even a little close to the middle of the lane instead of the far right I got pulled over and nearly fined for it so you can take your "safe cycling" and stick it where the sun don't shine.
@10blood, of course you don't have to consider getting more education, since you clearly know all you need to know. On the other hand, I have taken two courses in safe cycling and have become a League Cycling Instructor, and have learned that I didn't know everything. You were nearly fined for your riding skills. I have been cited four times by equally ignorant law enforcement officers for my safe riding. Continue to be abusive, and your comments will vanish and you will be blocked.
This video it not only has wide turning lane it has a bike lane FOR bikes which you are not using. you are impeding traffic. I know the cops dont enforce a lot of traffic law on shit head bike riders but you are braking the law by holding up traffic.
@samten10a, it appears that you know even less about courtesy and cycling laws in my state than you do about spelling.
I am not impeding traffic on a four lane road. I am not holding up traffic, I AM traffic. I have the same rights and responsibilities as other road users. It is not a bike lane, it is not a wide turning lane.
IN THE VIDEO -- THREE IDIOT DRIVERS IN ONE DAY It looked like a 10 ft shoulder paved with no obstruction in my state that is where you belong on a bike you were not ridding there. second you were impeding traffic which is against the law. So much for your safe ridding tips you are a hypocrite
@samatention, it's not a ten foot shoulder, and good for you that your state requires you to ride in a dangerous manner. Secondly, I am not impeding traffic. Consider to learn to spell before you decide to call people names.
I am operating in a safe manner, permitted by Florida law. Research Safe Cycling, Street Smarts, or take a cycling safety class presented by the League of American Bicyclists. I might then consider your opinions are more than ignorant sputter.
Freddo, why are you riding THERE just in the middle of the road where the cars go when there is plenty of room for you to the right? I know you are allowed to by the letter of the law, but do you HAVE TO??
In a sub-standard width lane, it is not safer to allow other drivers to pass too closely. Since I've learned safe cycling practices, I've had far fewer close calls with inconsiderate drivers, no right hooks, no left crosses, or if they've happened, they were uneventful and not noteworthy.
It is dozens of times safer to operate as a proper road user. Check out "Street Smarts" followed by the state in which you live (US) for more info.
Alright. I live in Norway, here its allowed to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk if it can happen without danger to pedestrians. And in populated areas there are roads alongside the roads dedicated to pedestrians and bicyclists. Problem is the bicyclists dont use them! Ok, ordinary people going for a bike ride do, but the average "dude riding a competition bike and wearing a condom suit" doesnt! There is even a group on facebook dedicated to those who hate such ones..
Unfortunately, motor vehicle operators in this country are not given proper training and are a danger to other road users.
Too many people on bicycles in this country are also not aware of how to operate a bicycle safely on the roadways. By riding near the edge of the road, it invites more danger than not.
I wear the "condom suit" but one cannot tell, as I am enclosed. It is more comfortable for the hot weather.
i ride on the shoulder if possible, and by possible i need at least a foot or a foot and a half of shoulder to ride on, if not, im taking the right side of the right lane, fuck cars
I don't know the laws in your state, but in FL, if the lane is not 14 feet wide, a cyclist can use the entire lane for his safety.
Consider that the right side of the right lane may not be enough to prevent unsafe passing by motorists and if you were more to the center of the lane, you would have less dangerous passing.
Most of the states have laws which permit this type of riding, and it is safer. Many law enforcement officers are not aware of this law.
Ride on the shoulder - get out of everyone's way and quit being a rolling accident waiting to happen. There's room for you to avoid all this- so be considerate and take the shoulder. Unless you truly want to get hit- maybe you do, so you can sue the pants off some poor mom who was just going about her day until you came along and purposefully created a hazard on the road for her. Good job buddy. Way to contribute something positive. I hope you don't get a dime if/when you do get hit.
Nope, you don't have a clue. I don't think you'll ever get one either. You should consider to find another collection of videos in which to post your mindless comments. I am growing weary of your ignorance.
It is not a bike lane. Riding in the "bike lane" is not as safe as many have been led to believe. I have had too many dangerous passes to return to riding in such an unsafe manner.
My training and experience have proven otherwise. The paint markings are meaningless and serve only to endanger unskilled and untrained cyclists and confuse motorists.
Bike lanes aren't confusing, you don't cross the solid white line. Just because there are bad drivers out there doesn't give you the right to be a bad cyclist and blatantly disobey traffic laws because you think their stupid.
In the state of Florida, there are no laws requiring cyclist to ride in a "bike lane". This video does not have a bike lane. It has paint stripes which confuse motorists and bike riders into thinking there is a bike lane.
u have room on the shoulder why do u ride that slow thing in the lane when u have room, im sorry but roads like that u shouldnt be on, now if u choose toride those roads which i guess is ur right, someone else may someday smash you, because shit happens, ur putting urselfin a dangerous situation, tomany drivers out there not paying attention, believe me i know i ride motorcycles, but ican keepupandover with traffic, youcant. so id deffinately utalize that shoulder a bit more
Skilled and trained cyclists will not post comments such as yours. When you have completed a suitable bicycle safety course, I may consider your comments to have some validity, but you may then recognize that your comments are meaningless.
I'm not sure why you think it's necessary to attack me, if that's what your incomplete sentence represents. I am a safe cyclist, and my safety is my responsibility. You are welcome to operate in an unsafe manner if you like, but it's not particularly admirable that you feel it necessary to attack me.
anyone who commutes should have a horn to honk right back at the rude drivers. better yet a battery that can handle hooking up a 100 decibel car horn to it and mount to the front downtube or forks now here's what would really suck for the driver.. if they did that shit to a bike cop and got those red and blues pulled on him.. that might teach him to watch what he's doing
sweet :) I wasn't sure the horn you had but glad that it is effective since alot of drivers claim not to see us, and something like that helps to 'alert' them to our presence as well as loud enough to not be ignored otherwise. keep up the cycling friend
the roads are for all valid users. This particular road is more than one lane in each direction and skilled considerate drivers have no problem sharing the road with other users. Unskilled inconsiderate drivers pose safety problems for more than the bicyclists.
By the way, more cyclists mean less choked roads, but this particular road is hardly "choked".
Its only a matter of time when a not so skilled driver fails to see you, or two near by vehicles overtaking collide.
The roads are for all valid road users,but a whole lane is not req for a pushbike doing a third of the speed limit especially when there is a shoulder available,cars don`t like slow trucks in the fast lane ?
Mixing around with min 1.5 tonne vehicles with drivers that have distractions of today (phones, ipods,GPS)
God knows how many thousand miles I've ridden on bikes-but it must be a lot, and I have to agree with freddotu- riding on the pavement (footpath here) is a BAD idea ( also illegal in every country I've ridden in. Cycle paths usually aren't much better, except for the exclusive use ones which are away from all other path users.I would like my own recumbent as I am starting to get neck problems from riding my upright so much. Funny how bikes have been using the roads for 200 yrs and cars only 130
Yep... and any cyclist that works and pays income tax, or buys things and pays VAT, ALSO PAYS ROAD TAX as there is no specific fund for ANY of the taxes paid in the UK! So everybody who pays any kind of tax in the UK is entitled to use the roads of GB! Happy cycling :-)
I'm a regular velomobile user and I would not behave like you did. You had a decent width of hard shoulder/cycle lane to use but you chose to antagonize drivers instead by pretending to be a car - you're not a car, you're a bike.The fact you were 'beeped at' is not surprising and waving at them must really wind them up - you need to be careful, you might wave at the wrong person one day. Behave properly and help to give us a better reputation with drivers.
joyscreamofseagulls 2 weeks ago
@joyscreamofseagulls, as a "regular velomobile user", you are maintaining the same misconceptions about safe cycling as other cyclists and other road users. I do not choose to antagonize driver by pretending to be a car. I'm not a car, I'm a cyclist, with the same rights (safety) and responsibilities as other road users.
Consider to take a cycling safety course and learn how to operate safely on roadways before you criticize another regular velomobile driver.
freddotu 2 weeks ago
I wave at everybody who honks at me, with all five fingers of one hand. It's unlikely that I'll wave at the wrong person. I am not responsible for your reputation, nor are you responsible for mine. If you choose to endanger yourself by riding in the gutter, so be it. Look for helping motorists with lane position on the commute orlando web site and learn just a bit more than you think you know now.
freddotu 2 weeks ago
@freddotu . I agree with your comments on having the same rights and responsibilitiies as other road users and I too ride as a 'Vehicular' cyclist and all that it entails but given a good stretch of cycle lane, I'd use that because not doing so is going to annoy some drivers - regardless of rights and responsibilities.
By the way, I don't take kindly to being told to take a 'cycling safety course' - You know nothing about me or my cycling activities. I gave you my opinion on your video.
joyscreamofseagulls 2 weeks ago
@joyscreamofseagulls, someone who is aware of vehicular cycling should recognize that the "shoulder" in this video is not a shoulder, nor is it of sufficient width to permit safe cycling. The segment of commute orlando web site I referenced is one that shows proper (centered) lane position is easier for motorists and results in less "annoyance" and that has been my experience.
freddotu 2 weeks ago
@freddotu I concede, you are right. I wish you happy velomobiling.
joyscreamofseagulls 2 weeks ago
maby thay honked there horns in support
stephmc111 2 weeks ago
i love how cyclists all say they want respect, but yet they don't wanna respect a cars ability to go much faster than a bike. and they wanna use up a lane when there is a big ass shoulder that'd be perfect to ride on, i'm all for riding, but not when it's going to impede the flow of traffic
charlietow 3 months ago 11
@charlietow, you won't get respect from me with an attitude like that. Drivers will not give safe passing distance to gutter bunnies and endanger the cyclist by passing too closely. Inferiority cycling habits are unsafe. You can choose to endanger yourself as much as you like.
Motor vehicles weigh thousands of pounds and drivers do not recognize their responsibilities when operating such masses.
I don't impede traffic, I am traffic, with all the rights of other road users.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu the attitude you have is exactly what i'm talking about.. "I don't impede traffic, I am traffic" you're being inconsiderate slowing traffic down. like i said i'm all for riding, i live in a busy city, when i ride, if there's a sidewalk i ride on that, even though i know what the law states, i'm not one of those.. "i have the same rights as cars, so i'm gonna take up a whole lane on a 2 lane street" yuppies. i do understand what it is to be in a hurry. it's called empathy
charlietow 3 months ago
@charlietow, if drivers would show this consideration you preach, there would be no problem with gutter bunny riding habits. Drivers lack any real understanding of safe driving, so I have to ride in a manner which ensures my safety as much as possible. Sidewalk riding is far more dangerous than you realize. You also don't recognize that most of the drivers have zero problems with changing lanes safely and continuing on their way.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu ok dude
charlietow 3 months ago
@charlietow
You can get a ticket where I live for riding on a sidewalk
steveeeeboi 3 months ago
@steveeeeboi, some parts of the city have similar signs posted, but it's rarely enforced. It's about three times as dangerous to ride on a sidewalk, and pedestrians would not appreciate my 20 mph travel speed, I'm sure.
freddotu 3 months ago
@charlietow You could argue that pedestrians are inconsiderate for walking in front of you when you ride on the sidewalk in exactly the same fashion. However, the law favors pedestrians in all cases, which means you are a vehicle.
tjhombs 2 months ago
@freddotu Lets turn america into the streets of Peru, or Egypt. Sounds great :D
Redmilitiageneral 2 months ago
@charlietow It is illegal to ride on the sidewalk in many areas, and motor vehicle laws classify a bicycle as a vehicle for road perposes.
tjhombs 2 months ago
How about using that bike lane to your right? After all, you are on a bicycle. If you can't ride in the bicycle lane because you feel it's to dangerous on that road, then maybe you need more skill to ride on that road before you ride it. You are making the road dangerous for everyone else with you actions.
mikef4irider 3 months ago
@mikef4irider, thank you for your uninformed comment. It may look like a bike lane, but it is not a bike lane. The two classes I've taken, including a cycling safety instructors certification class validate my operation in the manner shown. It is not dangerous to ride on that road. I am not making the road dangerous for everyone else with my actions. Roads are not dangerous, although ignorant, inconsiderate and unskilled drivers can be.
freddotu 3 months ago
get off the road! is it really worth the danger to you and everything else? ps you can be pulled over for being too slow and you can be charged with passive aggressive driving (not keeping up with an appropriate speed and forcing others to deal with your, non aggressive, shitty driving)
tenisguy10 3 months ago 3
@tenisguy10, as is typical of so many comments, you are completely incorrect. I am not endangering anyone and am operating in the safest manner allowed by law. I have been pulled over and have been cited, and the citations have been dismissed as groundless. You don't have a clue, and I don't expect you to find one.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu ok so if thats true than so you are keeping up with traffic, and your not being passive aggressive and not holding anyone back or slowing traffic at all. am i right so far? so because of your courteous, totally legal, and safe behavior people just want to honk and go around you... just for fun... right? :) i hope you realize how much of an idiot you sound like.
tenisguy10 3 months ago 2
@tenisguy10, you have shown me to be correct. You do not have a clue and have not found one. Your lack of understanding shows how much of an idiot you can be, if you try a bit harder. Don't research LAB Traffic Skills 101 or visit c y c l i n g s a v v y (dot) c o m and remain ignorant of safe cycling, that way you can continue to criticize me based on information you don't have.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu ok thing is no matter what some website says or what the law is , that doesn't make what your doing right or ok. recently a anti bullying law was passed in michigan but the thing it says you can bully someone as long as it is part of your faith or you have a "good reason". some really stupid laws have been passed and no matter what you or your almighty written from God website says you still are impeding trafic and people have to go around you.
tenisguy10 3 months ago 2
@freddotu you do increase the chance of an accident of the people around you weather you want to or not, you do. your an obstacle in the road and people must avoid you and. sorry but no law can argue with the fact that when motorists must avoid a slow car or any obstacle it increases risk and chance of accident on the road.
tenisguy10 3 months ago 2
@tenisguy10, take a look at commuteorlando (dot) com for the segment "Helping motorists with lane positioning" and you'll see that a driver coming up on a cyclist on the edge of the road has far less time to make safe decisions than a driver approaching a cyclist in the center of a sub-standard width lane. The level of risk is substantially reduced, not increased and that has been my experience.
It's better, easier and safer for all.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu just because your doing the least damage doesn't make it ok! i understand you doing the less dangerous thing but never the less over all your increasing danger increasing danger less than someone that is riding on the side of the road but never the less you are increasing rick, chance of accident. theoretically say that a biker on the side of the road increases risk 20% and a rider in the the middle of the road increases risk 10% your still increasing risk.
tenisguy10 3 months ago
@tenisguy10, your comment makes no sense at all. There is risk in everything someone does. Life is risky.
By riding in the center of the lane, I provide the safest possible situation for myself and it also makes things easier for the other road users.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu your right life is risky! my point is i dont appreciate you adding to the danger that is already posed by driving every day. im sure everyone else feels the same way, i dont walk around with grenades strapped to me just because life is already risky, because it would add to the risk! but by your logic, who cares!? lets make houses out of duraflame fire-start logs, and coat the roads in oil, life is already risky, who cares if someones adds just another risk factor?
tenisguy10 3 months ago
@tenisguy10, you're out of your mind. It does not matter that you dislike that I ride a bicycle, as your opinion in this matter is of no value. This discussion ends now.
freddotu 3 months ago
freddotu, would you kindly kick the bucket already? stop draining our social security system, our nation's government needs those funds for more important things, ya crazy old coot.
unclevancandy 3 months ago 5
@unclevancandy, that's quite an inane comment. I've many years before I begin to use the social security system and don't plan to depend on it in the least. You wish me to be dead? Thanks for your consideration. Go away.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu your videos and behavior are inane. I have a sneaking suspicion you're entire life is inane! I don't care if it's your sole retirement income or not, don't drain it! the government needs those funds for other programs. I will not "go away"
unclevancandy 3 months ago 3
@unclevancandy, this ridiculous discussion ends now.
freddotu 3 months ago
i desire harm for people like you and my view is not distorted u idiot, ur view is distorted because you cant see what wrong your doing, and its not the size of the vehicle lets not act like children. You know what your doing is wrong,yr a human being in a small "vehicle" ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD! of course people are gonna be mad when they have to slow down/move for your stupid ass. Your a fucken loser and yea i am tapped. I would run u over,reverse,run u over again,reverse and do it all again
aigalew34 3 months ago 11
@aigalew34, you can continue to hold this misconception as much as you'd like. It does not change that your foundation for this misconception is incorrect. Your mastery of the language is barely tolerable. Please identify yourself so I can notify local authorities of the danger to society that you represent.
freddotu 3 months ago
your the one going out with a video camera to go instigate problems by abusing your little lane you have, i guess it isnt big enough so u go out and ride ur stupid yellow tricycle in other peoples way's just for your own satisfaction.i hate people like you so much. i would hit u with my side view mirror and keep it moving
aigalew34 3 months ago 3
@aigalew34, you have a distorted view of reality. I don't understand why such a small vehicle threatens people so much. Your desire to harm others would indicate that you should seek professional counseling.
freddotu 3 months ago
try it in the fast lane on a highway!
aigalew34 3 months ago
@aigalew34, only in a few select locations in the USA are bicycles allowed on an interstate highway.
freddotu 3 months ago
you silly willly!
aigalew34 3 months ago
ignorance at its finest.its almost as if your trying to prove a point that means nothing to anyone but you. I personally hope you get hit :o)
aigalew34 3 months ago
@aigalew34, it's always heart warming to get a comment from someone like you, who wishes harm on another human being. Your parents must be rather proud of you for that aspect of your personality. The ignorance lies in your comment and you have my sympathy for your handicaps.
freddotu 3 months ago
@freddotu you are the one being ignorant, there is a bike lane yet you decide to ride on the way of the cars.. If people like you get hurt, you are getting no sympathy from anyone else but yourself
iAngryPigs 3 months ago 4
@iAngryPigs, ignorant means to not be aware of certain information. There is no bike lane in this video. You are ignorant of this fact. You are also ignorant of safe cycling practices with respect to sub-standard width lanes and other considerations which permit using the entire lane. Safe cycling practices are poorly understood. I don't require nor desire sympathy from anyone. Rude, stupid, inconsiderate and dangerous drivers don't have my sympathy and should not be supported by attacking me.
freddotu 3 months ago
my opinion is your arrogant. their is a skip lane / bike lane for a reason.
AridersLife 4 months ago 4
@AridersLife, my opinion is you're unaware of the difference between a bike lane and a paint stripe on the road. Bike lanes are not the sole answer to safe cycling and in many cases are far more dangerous than operating in the lane. There is not a skip lane or bike lane in this video.
freddotu 4 months ago
@freddotu must be a thing in aus here the side lane is shared with cyclists.
AridersLife 4 months ago
There is a bike lane right there......get the fuck over, simple.
cleve101 4 months ago 4
@cleve101, your awareness of the realities of the road match your fabulous command of the language. Let me put it to you simply:
You are wrong.
freddotu 4 months ago
@freddotu Nope, gonna go ahead and say he's right.... That definitely is a bike lane, moron
Boosted94Supra 4 months ago 3
@Boosted94Supra, I see your mastery of the language is on a par with cleve101's, that is to say, not so good. You can say it's a bike lane, but that doesn't change the fact that it isn't. You have no foundation on which to base your statement. I travel this route on a regular basis and there are no bike lane signs or markings. Take your abusive epithets elsewhere.
freddotu 4 months ago
@freddotu Bicyclists that think they are just fine causing traffic jams and causing a potential dangerous situation on the road are the rude people. If you are slowing down traffic, YOU are the issue here. You and all bicyclists that think the road was designed for them and have no courtesy need to wake up. If you want to ride on the road, fine. Stay off the busy roads, especially during rush hour times, and get out of the way of vehicles.
jasonp31 4 months ago 2
@jasonp31, what part of public roads do you not understand. There is no issue here at all, other than distracted, inconsiderate and unskilled drivers. As a legitimate road user, I do not "get out of the way of vehicles" any more than you get out of the way of other drivers on the roadway. Courtesy is meaningless when safety is foremost.
You don't have a clue, and I don't expect you to find one anytime soon.
freddotu 4 months ago
@freddotu Oh I have a very good clue about people like you. You think you are entitled to whatever you want. You love the power you feel when you go out and slow down traffic and agitate others. If safety is "foremost", then you wouldn't be going 5 mph around other vehicles traveling much faster. People don't have an issue with you being on the road. We do have an issue when you cause traffic jams and have no courtesy for others, going out on busy roads. You are the one without a clue.
jasonp31 4 months ago
@jasonp31, here's a suggestion that you probably won't follow, because it will clearly show that you are in error. Search for "effective cycling" or "cycling savvy" (that's two of the letter V, not a W) or visit the very well done web page of commuteorlando (d o t) c o m for plenty of examples why your misconception is just that.
I don't agitate others, I travel by bicycle in the safest manner possible. I don't cause traffic jams, that's just an infantile reaction.
freddotu 4 months ago
I don't post videos of the thousands of drivers each week who simply change lanes safely and continue on their way. If there is heavy traffic, I'm traveling at the same speed. If traffic is light, drivers change lanes. If you had a clue, and perhaps a safe cycling course under your belt, you would not be so incorrect in your assessment of my riding practices.
freddotu 4 months ago
There is no bike lane you faggots. Just because there is a pullover lane doesn't mean they have to ride in it. Technically they shouldn't but it isn't illegal.
WafflezDay 5 months ago
@WafflezDay, because the area between the stripe and edge of the road or curb is so narrow, it's not much of a pull-over lane either.
freddotu 5 months ago
Uploader of the video is obviously one of those ignorant people who just believe they're right all the time. Until he gets hit by a car or theres an accident because of him, he probably won't even think twice about his idiocracy. (Isn't even a word though....)
wussytaco 5 months ago
@wussytaco, commenter on this video is obviously one of those ignorant people who knows little to nothing about safe cycling practices, probably never having taken a cycling course in his entire life. You'll probably never realize that the positive comments for safe cycling are made by people who are intelligent enough to recognize how well things can and do work. I'm far less likely to be involved in a crash (not accident) riding in this manner and more than 22,500 miles proves it.
freddotu 5 months ago
@wussytaco But it is a movie!
WafflezDay 5 months ago
Ugh, typical empowered bicyclist. Get out of the lane.
84moneypit 6 months ago
@84moneypit, ugh, a typically ignorant commenter. Go away.
freddotu 6 months ago
@freddotu No, he's completely right. Good for you you're riding a bike, but you don't have to do it in a way that very obviously creates some unhappy motorists. Stay in the bike lane, or at least hug the white line when there is traffic... I ride bikes on the road too and you sure as hell aren't making it safe for either yourself or other commuters.
Heaton08 5 months ago
@Heaton08, when you "hug the white line" you are putting yourself in a position of greater risk from unskilled or distracted motorists. Visit commuteorlando (dot) com and look for the article "helping motorists with lane positioning" or type that phrase into your preferred search engine and the first result returned will explain why it works, with video. Take a cycling safety course and learn even more.
Thank you for being civil.
freddotu 5 months ago
You are one of those people that make roads dangerous. What are u doing in high speed traffic with low ride and 25mph?
kantro24 7 months ago 33
@kantro24, regardless of what you believe, bicycles and other road users can work together. I have thousands of miles over many years with very few problems. These roads take me where I need to go, and most drivers have no problem at all. Such misconceptions do not benefit anyone.
freddotu 7 months ago
@CaptainCocaine not sure I saw a bike lane there... even if that was a bike lane he doesn't HAVE to ride in it, asshole. Could be covered in gravel, potholes, or other obstructions. Still can share the road with motorists, unfortunately motorists make it hard to share because they all act like they're on coke like you, Cap'n.
aarossell 8 months ago
@aarossell, the majority of the roads on which I travel do not have bike lanes. This particular roadway has a striped segment that is not a bike lane, although many people on bikes ride there, some of them facing traffic! Because my velomobile is low, I have to deal with traffic masking, in that other vehicles will hide me from traffic. Even with a bike lane, I control the lane to eliminate that risk. Most of the roads on which I drive are four lanes or more, so there's plenty of room.
freddotu 8 months ago
@aarossell If you refuse to ride in the bike lane, don't whine when cars get mad. No, roadrage isn't acceptable but honestly?
D13fledermause 7 months ago
@D13fledermause, if a cyclist decided to not ride in a bike lane for safety reasons, other road users should make allowances. Cars don't get mad, unless one lives in a cartoon world, but drivers can be unreasonable, inconsiderate and dangerous operators.
freddotu 7 months ago
@freddotu I'm just saying that if you're going to do that, don't complain about dangerous drivers. About the car thing, who are you, the typo police?
D13fledermause 7 months ago
@D13fledermause, not riding in the bike lane, riding in a safe manner does not preclude my right to complain about dangerous drivers. About the car thing, it's a human being allegedly in control of the motor vehicle. There is a valid distinction. People talk about dangerous roads, but I've never been hurt by a dangerous road. Drivers can make the road dangerous, and do, and avoiding the distinction is one way of avoiding recognizing that.
freddotu 7 months ago
@CaptainCocaine, Your ignorance of Florida laws and lane striping is clear in your comment. Your ignorance of safe cycling practice is also clear.
freddotu 9 months ago
there was a bike lane there and you weren't even in it..
i ride bikes but I try and find roads where I am away for traffic... I can see how this would be annoying for motorists.
EmptyTheRoom 1 year ago 36
@EmptyTheRoom, it's not a bike lane and I won't ride in an unsafe location on the roadway. Motorists can change lanes as it's a four lane roadway. Many people on bikes do not know safe cycling practices and are quick to criticize those who do.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu
Looks like a bike lane to me. What you're doing instead is making it unsafe for everyone else. That's really selfish and dangerous.
scytheboy 1 year ago
@scytheboy, your understanding of safe cycling practices are not correct. Safety is never selfish and despite your suggestion, my experiences indicate that other traffic is better able to handle my riding than previous riding at the edge of the road.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu
Safety IS selfish when you say, "My safety is more important than yours". You did that the second you took the lane cars travel in and forced others to change lanes to avoid you.
For drivers they have to maintain a minimum speed limit by law. Why? It creates a traffic hazard otherwise. So when you take that thing and travel in the car lane you're basically acting like a slow car. Making it VERY unsafe for others.
scytheboy 1 year ago
@scytheboy, unless you have taken safe cycling training, I would not expect you to understand why this works. I would not expect you to understand anything based on the erroneous suppositions you present.
Traveling anywhere has some risks. I minimize those risks as best as I can. If a driver is delayed 10 seconds or thirty seconds, it is insignificant. Traffic lights delay motorists for more than 30 seconds.
You don't understand why edge-of-the-road cycling is dangerous.
freddotu 1 year ago
@scytheboy Drivers have to maintain a minimum speed by law? Why don't I see cops handing out tickets to all the cars in a traffic jam?
reaperexpress 10 months ago
@reaperexpress haha, nice
aarossell 8 months ago
@scytheboy whoa, so... you're saying if traffic is slow, you HAVE to maintain minimum speed limit, no matter what? What about safety? Cars and bikes share the road, and if everyone starts with that, traffic is manageable and simple...
aarossell 8 months ago
@freddotu
In summation, by your own account you state that traveling there is unsafe. Perhaps it would be the safest for all concerned that you don't travel there. Of course I'm sure your ego would say otherwise.
scytheboy 1 year ago
@scytheboy, I ride where I need to, and especially on four lane roads or wider, because it delays other road users less than the two lane roads.
Why is it that a trained cyclist is being interpreted as having an overblown ego? Consider some cycling safety training, get educated, and understand how it works and especially THAT IT WORKS.
End of this thread.
freddotu 1 year ago
@scytheboy Goddamn... you are horrible. Man, he has the fucking right to ride wherever he wants, just as you do. The road is the place for bicycle travel, please get used to it or else you'll succumb to road rage like other assholes who kill bicyclists and motorists.
aarossell 8 months ago
@scytheboy Right on...our boy seems delusional.
strandwolf 10 months ago
@scytheboy fuck off, you don't own the road.
aarossell 8 months ago
They really need to be more open to making you a lane of travel so not only are you not holding up traffic but also it's safer for you to travel places without having to worry about impatient motorists
Kartracer6 1 year ago
@Kartracer6, I don't require a special lane to travel in a safe manner. On the multi-lane roads I ride, motorists usually have little trouble to change lanes and continue on their way. I don't hold up traffic.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed there, but sadly the way people drive in such a selfish manner it does make it unsafe for you. Which is sad cause you should be allowed there
Kartracer6 1 year ago
@Kartracer6, most motorists are able to handle a bicycle (or a velomobile) in the lane with zero problems. I had been cycling in a less safe manner for many years and merely tolerated the close calls and rude drivers. Those instances have been greatly reduced and my cycling enjoyment has increased, along with safety.
freddotu 1 year ago
so you caused the car drivers a couple of seconds of their precious life robbing them of the precious seconds to reach home to sit on the couch for hours watching TV munching on a bag of greasy potato chips and drinking high calorie beer and a tub of ice cream while they waste their life away
emforty2 1 year ago
bike lane buddy your not a car yet...
patinsley 1 year ago
@patinsley, it's not a bike lane, and it's unsafe to ride in such a position. You're not aware of the rights of cyclists to ensure their safety when riding. I'm not ever going to be a car, either.
freddotu 1 year ago
Don't know what to think about the situation. Are you allowed to use the lane? (it would surprise me but if so then you are doing fine)
SCRTpilot 1 year ago
@SCRTpilot , In this state (Florida) and in many other states in the USA, a cyclist is permitted the entire lane for safety reasons. Many cyclists do not know this and there are some conditions. The lane width is important and lanes of less than fourteen feet in width (4.25m) are too narrow for a motor vehicle and bicycle to share, side-by-side.
freddotu 1 year ago
you're fucking up life for cyclists who aren't parading assholes. dangerous.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 year ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, an amusing comment. Educated and trained cyclists will recongize that the basis for your comment is meaningless. Uneducated and untrained cyclists don't know how to operate safely on roadways and fear doing so. Research vehicular cycling or visit commute orlando blog and become an educated and trained cyclist, or just stay off the road.
freddotu 1 year ago
freddotu, your "educated" routine ran thin long ago in this thread. video says all.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 year ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, it works for me, for over 6000 miles and it works for many cyclists who understand safe cycling. Your abusive comments are meaningless and if you think education is of no value, that's fine. Get off my case, or take a cycling course and learn what it really means, or both.
freddotu 1 year ago
freddotu, when "education" is defined as "freddotu's unfounded dogma", yeah, it's of no value. it's important in some cases to take a lane. the situation in this vid isn't it, and pretending you've more road experience than all disputants is ludicrous.
you're pissing off dangerous people who may go on to fuck others. that it "works" for you means dick. without riders like you, intelligent and respectful cyclists would have little trouble with the morons.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 year ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, do you think I made this stuff up? I took a couple classes put on by a national organization which promotes safe cycling. I'm not "pissing off" anyone with half a brain, capable of independent thinking.
The video does not present enough information for anyone to be attacking me for my operating practices.
My safety is utmost when operating on roadways with multi-ton motor vehicles driven by distracted, often unskilled drivers.
freddotu 1 year ago
doubt you're capable of making something up, given your dogged fallacious clinging to merit badges, otherwise known as argument by authority, here with a smattering of 50,000,000 elvis fans can't be wrong. the video shows that you had room to get out of the way, since you're blocking the lane without any reason except "what i was told". your constant referral to "training" is simply a silly way of pretending an opinion isn't an opinion, but rather received divine truth. for fools.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 year ago
I do not "get out of the way" in circumstances that endanger me. "Getting out of the way" is the practice of inferiority cycling, the belief that other road users have greater priority to the use of the road, at the expense of safety. If a person on a bike believes that he should get out of the way, he should not be riding at all.
You refer to my training and reject it. I have experience in both manners of riding and you reject it. I now cease to argue with a fool.
freddotu 1 year ago
freddotu, if experience trumps, it's likely i ride more in a day than you do in a week, at speeds that would conk yer ticker. for decades.
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 year ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper, I think you're missing the point. I've experienced the inferiority cyclist practices and found it lacking. I've taken the training and experienced the other side of the coin. It's safer, it's easier, it is far more enjoyable. Despite what you may think, other road users have become less of a problem for me and I am less of a problem for them. That is my experience. When you've taken the steps, then your experiences will bear it out as well.
freddotu 1 year ago
yeah, the vid really bears out what you say. ROFL
2ndAsstJizzMopper 1 year ago
@2ndAsstJizzMopper Just shut the fuck up 2ndasstjizzmopper and go back to jizzing in your pants...
shorerydr10 1 year ago
Another bicyclist enjoying being an asshole by blocking faster moving motor vehicles. Being "legally right" is not going to be of much comfort to you when a car runs over your slow moving bicycle from the rear. Taking responsibility for your own safety by using common sense is something that you are clearly not doing.
But maybe, you would rather be DEAD right.
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu, one might guess that you are a motorist being an asshole who does not understand cycling safety. Being legally right means nothing when it comes to being able to operate safely on a roadway. I've taken cycling safety courses and have a far better understanding of this sort of activity than your comment indicates.
After more than five thousand miles operating in this safe manner lets me know your comment is baseless.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu If you've taken cycling safety courses than you never heard the instructor when he said, "avoid taking unnecessary risks and riding in dangerous situations" which is exactly what you are doing here. You have set yourself up to be the victim in this video and want sympathy for it. I would compare your behavior to a woman wearing a string bikini while she walks through a high crime area at 2 AM and then screaming rape when the inevitable happens.
Go get some counseling, u have a problem
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu, I have many miles of experience to prove otherwise. I have far more miles prior to the aforementioned training, operating in fear and in an inferior manner on the roads. Comparing the level of safety of the two types of riding, the traffic-safe method works by far.
For your counseling, I suggest taking a legitimate cycling skills course, taught by a qualified instructor, not a fear-monger.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu Sorry pal, but that line of BS you tried to post here doesn't work. The fact is that you are blocking traffic in your videos and are only posting here because no one has run you over yet through no skill of your own. Long lines of cars waiting behind you in your videos only prove how fortunate you have been so far. Your behavior is irresponsible at best and suicidal at worst - one day your luck may run out and you will have no one to blame but yourself.
CaneFu 1 year ago
@CaneFu, well, pal, the line of information I have posted here does work. You don't have a clue, do you? I'm not blocking traffic on a four lane road and other road users with some sense have no problem changing lanes.
Thousands of cyclists are getting educated on a regular basis, making them safer on the roads.
Get a clue or get over it. A bicyclist on the roadway isn't a threat to you, get off my case.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu Dude : / Just move over!
10blood 1 year ago
@10blood, Dude, just change lanes, give me safe passage, and go around.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu I don't have a car "dude" : / Follow the RULES
10blood 1 year ago
@10blood, the "rules" as you suggest appear to be beyond your comprehension. Consider before making your next post to research League of American Bicyclists Traffic Skills 101, or search for "Street Smarts" for your state or any state in the US. You may learn something about safe cycling.
Or you may not, but as noted above, get off my case. When you do not have the education, you have no valid reference to criticize me.
As far as "dude" goes, I simply responded in kind.
freddotu 1 year ago
@freddotu You're daft. I don't have to look up "street smarts" how to fucking ride. The last time I was even a little close to the middle of the lane instead of the far right I got pulled over and nearly fined for it so you can take your "safe cycling" and stick it where the sun don't shine.
10blood 1 year ago
@10blood, of course you don't have to consider getting more education, since you clearly know all you need to know. On the other hand, I have taken two courses in safe cycling and have become a League Cycling Instructor, and have learned that I didn't know everything. You were nearly fined for your riding skills. I have been cited four times by equally ignorant law enforcement officers for my safe riding. Continue to be abusive, and your comments will vanish and you will be blocked.
freddotu 1 year ago
This video it not only has wide turning lane it has a bike lane FOR bikes which you are not using. you are impeding traffic. I know the cops dont enforce a lot of traffic law on shit head bike riders but you are braking the law by holding up traffic.
samten10a 1 year ago
@samten10a, it appears that you know even less about courtesy and cycling laws in my state than you do about spelling.
I am not impeding traffic on a four lane road. I am not holding up traffic, I AM traffic. I have the same rights and responsibilities as other road users. It is not a bike lane, it is not a wide turning lane.
SImply enough, you are wrong.
freddotu 1 year ago
IN THE VIDEO -- THREE IDIOT DRIVERS IN ONE DAY It looked like a 10 ft shoulder paved with no obstruction in my state that is where you belong on a bike you were not ridding there. second you were impeding traffic which is against the law. So much for your safe ridding tips you are a hypocrite
samatention 1 year ago
@samatention, it's not a ten foot shoulder, and good for you that your state requires you to ride in a dangerous manner. Secondly, I am not impeding traffic. Consider to learn to spell before you decide to call people names.
I am operating in a safe manner, permitted by Florida law. Research Safe Cycling, Street Smarts, or take a cycling safety class presented by the League of American Bicyclists. I might then consider your opinions are more than ignorant sputter.
freddotu 1 year ago
@samatention, is there something that prevents you from posting comments in the appropriate video? Computer skills lacking perhaps?
freddotu 1 year ago
Freddo, why are you riding THERE just in the middle of the road where the cars go when there is plenty of room for you to the right? I know you are allowed to by the letter of the law, but do you HAVE TO??
KapteinOpel 2 years ago
In a sub-standard width lane, it is not safer to allow other drivers to pass too closely. Since I've learned safe cycling practices, I've had far fewer close calls with inconsiderate drivers, no right hooks, no left crosses, or if they've happened, they were uneventful and not noteworthy.
It is dozens of times safer to operate as a proper road user. Check out "Street Smarts" followed by the state in which you live (US) for more info.
freddotu 2 years ago
Alright. I live in Norway, here its allowed to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk if it can happen without danger to pedestrians. And in populated areas there are roads alongside the roads dedicated to pedestrians and bicyclists. Problem is the bicyclists dont use them! Ok, ordinary people going for a bike ride do, but the average "dude riding a competition bike and wearing a condom suit" doesnt! There is even a group on facebook dedicated to those who hate such ones..
KapteinOpel 2 years ago
Unfortunately, motor vehicle operators in this country are not given proper training and are a danger to other road users.
Too many people on bicycles in this country are also not aware of how to operate a bicycle safely on the roadways. By riding near the edge of the road, it invites more danger than not.
I wear the "condom suit" but one cannot tell, as I am enclosed. It is more comfortable for the hot weather.
freddotu 2 years ago
i ride on the shoulder if possible, and by possible i need at least a foot or a foot and a half of shoulder to ride on, if not, im taking the right side of the right lane, fuck cars
latinohomiejo071593 2 years ago
I don't know the laws in your state, but in FL, if the lane is not 14 feet wide, a cyclist can use the entire lane for his safety.
Consider that the right side of the right lane may not be enough to prevent unsafe passing by motorists and if you were more to the center of the lane, you would have less dangerous passing.
Most of the states have laws which permit this type of riding, and it is safer. Many law enforcement officers are not aware of this law.
freddotu 2 years ago
There's a nice wide sidewalk, and a bike lane/shoulder for you to use. Get the fuck out of the way.
SomeRandomAhole 2 years ago
You certainly qualify for your nickname. You're lacking the same clue as the other "genius" posting parties here.
freddotu 2 years ago
Sidewalk, does the name suggest you should be on it when you are "riding"?
itbeshowinlikeamotha 2 years ago
Ride on the shoulder - get out of everyone's way and quit being a rolling accident waiting to happen. There's room for you to avoid all this- so be considerate and take the shoulder. Unless you truly want to get hit- maybe you do, so you can sue the pants off some poor mom who was just going about her day until you came along and purposefully created a hazard on the road for her. Good job buddy. Way to contribute something positive. I hope you don't get a dime if/when you do get hit.
proaudiohd 2 years ago
Nope, you don't have a clue. I don't think you'll ever get one either. You should consider to find another collection of videos in which to post your mindless comments. I am growing weary of your ignorance.
freddotu 2 years ago
why weren't you in the bike lane?
CoffeyClan 2 years ago
It is not a bike lane. Riding in the "bike lane" is not as safe as many have been led to believe. I have had too many dangerous passes to return to riding in such an unsafe manner.
freddotu 2 years ago
At 0:18 you can clearly see that it is a bike lane. Bike lanes are safer than the road.
CoffeyClan 2 years ago
You can believe what you like.
My training and experience have proven otherwise. The paint markings are meaningless and serve only to endanger unskilled and untrained cyclists and confuse motorists.
freddotu 2 years ago
Bike lanes aren't confusing, you don't cross the solid white line. Just because there are bad drivers out there doesn't give you the right to be a bad cyclist and blatantly disobey traffic laws because you think their stupid.
CoffeyClan 2 years ago
In the state of Florida, there are no laws requiring cyclist to ride in a "bike lane". This video does not have a bike lane. It has paint stripes which confuse motorists and bike riders into thinking there is a bike lane.
I do not think they're stupid, they're unsafe.
freddotu 2 years ago
u have room on the shoulder why do u ride that slow thing in the lane when u have room, im sorry but roads like that u shouldnt be on, now if u choose toride those roads which i guess is ur right, someone else may someday smash you, because shit happens, ur putting urselfin a dangerous situation, tomany drivers out there not paying attention, believe me i know i ride motorcycles, but ican keepupandover with traffic, youcant. so id deffinately utalize that shoulder a bit more
GixxerSgt 2 years ago
Skilled and trained cyclists will not post comments such as yours. When you have completed a suitable bicycle safety course, I may consider your comments to have some validity, but you may then recognize that your comments are meaningless.
freddotu 2 years ago
Skilled and trained cyclists ride in bike lanes.
CoffeyClan 2 years ago
No, skilled and trained cyclists do not ride in bike lanes simply because they exist.
If you were a trained cyclist you would be aware of this.
freddotu 2 years ago
Since is skilled and trained cyclist synonymous for dick on the road.
CoffeyClan 2 years ago
I'm not sure why you think it's necessary to attack me, if that's what your incomplete sentence represents. I am a safe cyclist, and my safety is my responsibility. You are welcome to operate in an unsafe manner if you like, but it's not particularly admirable that you feel it necessary to attack me.
freddotu 2 years ago
lol, love your videos.
skolms 2 years ago
anyone who commutes should have a horn to honk right back at the rude drivers. better yet a battery that can handle hooking up a 100 decibel car horn to it and mount to the front downtube or forks now here's what would really suck for the driver.. if they did that shit to a bike cop and got those red and blues pulled on him.. that might teach him to watch what he's doing
experimental0000 2 years ago
I do have an AirZound installed, which is supposed to be about 110db and very convenient. I rarely use it, but it is quite loud and often effective.
freddotu 2 years ago
sweet :) I wasn't sure the horn you had but glad that it is effective since alot of drivers claim not to see us, and something like that helps to 'alert' them to our presence as well as loud enough to not be ignored otherwise. keep up the cycling friend
experimental0000 2 years ago
Wow driving a slow vehicle on a busy road a your suprized about getting abuse - Arn`t the roads choked enough ?
1allan2 2 years ago
the roads are for all valid users. This particular road is more than one lane in each direction and skilled considerate drivers have no problem sharing the road with other users. Unskilled inconsiderate drivers pose safety problems for more than the bicyclists.
By the way, more cyclists mean less choked roads, but this particular road is hardly "choked".
freddotu 2 years ago
Looks a busy road to me. . .
Its only a matter of time when a not so skilled driver fails to see you, or two near by vehicles overtaking collide.
The roads are for all valid road users,but a whole lane is not req for a pushbike doing a third of the speed limit especially when there is a shoulder available,cars don`t like slow trucks in the fast lane ?
Mixing around with min 1.5 tonne vehicles with drivers that have distractions of today (phones, ipods,GPS)
is gambling with your health.
1allan2 2 years ago
What you describe in the first and second paragraphs are misconceptions and are understood to be so, by trained cyclists.
The last five thousand miles or more, since I've had training, has resulted in far safer riding than ever before.
freddotu 2 years ago
agreed, bikes take up less space and the roads are for all valid users. Same Rights Same Roads Same Rules
experimental0000 2 years ago
And driving on the road in a car instead of a bike will make it better?
drsquirrel0 2 years ago
u guys cant stfu cant u?
smashmelee1234 2 years ago
God knows how many thousand miles I've ridden on bikes-but it must be a lot, and I have to agree with freddotu- riding on the pavement (footpath here) is a BAD idea ( also illegal in every country I've ridden in. Cycle paths usually aren't much better, except for the exclusive use ones which are away from all other path users.I would like my own recumbent as I am starting to get neck problems from riding my upright so much. Funny how bikes have been using the roads for 200 yrs and cars only 130
tiggerdodds 2 years ago
Yep... and any cyclist that works and pays income tax, or buys things and pays VAT, ALSO PAYS ROAD TAX as there is no specific fund for ANY of the taxes paid in the UK! So everybody who pays any kind of tax in the UK is entitled to use the roads of GB! Happy cycling :-)
scabbernacker 2 years ago 9
Anyone is entitled to use the roads, yes.
But to use a road in a car, you need a licence. ;)
drsquirrel0