It's funny you mention it my nephew is ambidextrous an when I taught him to play he would switch hands...meaning he never hit a backhand..just let her choose what she prefers...if she's a natural lefty she will play it..the way I understand after reading Nadals book and articles his uncle had a lot to do with rafael playing lefty.
@springfield03sniper i'm wondering about the footwork--when i tried to serve lefty, my feet get all screwed up so i wonder if that is contributing to nadal's knee issue
@springfield03sniper Yeh I often wonder what Nadal would be like if he never chose to play lefty. Personally, I don't see the huge advantage in lefties unless its the fact that you seldom get to play them. They can serve slice to your backhand on teh Ad side and you can do the same to them on the duce side. Their forehand goes to your backhand bvut your forehandgoes to theirs crosscourt...Everybody thinks its because hes a lefty that he beats Federer. Its because his spin and high bounces IMHO.
you dont hold your elbow close to the body in the preperation .
saying that shows the guy in the video has no idea on what his talking about .
simple way to prove my point ? throw a tennis ball with your elbow close to your body, then try to throw another ball with the elbow a bit far from the body .
doh !!!!
sure, the arm needs to be close to the center of gravity but if its too close you lose the free motion of the arm . that is why the forehand in this video is terrible .
@hi10spro already in the setup the elbow needs to be a bit away from the stomach.
in high level of tennis when you dont have time and you need to sometimes to hit without a swing the prep' position for a stroke as fast as possible and as good as possible .
elbow tacked in is not good and wrong . very wrong... .and a mistake many coaches do unfortunately.
when i hit my forehand i move my elbow just a bit back , like only a cm or 2 , just for comfort , and just release all my tentioned muscles all at once with the elbow a lil close to the body for power , is that right ?
cuz i get alot of power with that , and good control too , so does it matter if it isnt right , or its ok as long as u get the ball where u want ?
you mean Lendl should change his forehand to traditional, John McEnroe should fix his serve to something more normal. Roddick should serve differently. Monica Seles shouldn't use two hands. Connors should have hit his double handed more conventional...THINK ABOUT IT--body types are different, ability/talent so you got to do it the way you do it
The third guy has a lot of problem with his swing and it's not about his elbow; it's a very obvious mistake he makes.
He slows down the racket after releasing it from his non-hitting hand. Because of this, he has to compensate somehow else to meet the ball and to prove you how he does it, simply look how he seems to change his swing, like he is following a music beat rather than a continuous swing.
This is reason n1as to why his power and spin are lacking.
Also, notice how the best forehand in tennis history is produced from a straight arm motion... Not too many people knows this, but after a study, they found only Rafael Nadal was able to produce more spin than the actual world number one, Roger Federer, off his average forehands.
More power, spin, consistancy, variety and control than anything ever witnessed so it's impossible to argue against that.
there is not really a proper form. there some forms effective more then others and also safer so you don't get lots of injuries, but really i don't believe there is a proper form.
there are ways to hit really, really hard, but the price is usually injury. I used to teach this forehand, but in 80% of the people, the last step which adds massive spin and power...causes injury...bummer...
what about Nadal and his knees? what about short term success? i mean pros usually last until they are 22 for the girls... would you sacrifice for that?
have you ever looked at video of nadal's backhand? and how it looks so painful? even his forehand looks physical... i think that's part of the things that contribute to his body breaking down plus he's a righty playing lefty
That is what I said: those strokes are not good because they are damageable to his body.
Health, efficiency and consistence. Meet all 3 or revise your swing.
Federer is an example to follow; nearly 29 and he's still beyond amazement. He's the perfect example fo a skillful tecnician who keeps working on his game. He was a Server-volleyer and now there is not a shot or a situation that doesn't seem to advanatge Roger Federer.
@joshwesthill you're joking right. nadal has a history of injuries for the last four years. my friend and i theorized that it's because he's actually right handed playing lefty
My coach always tells me to keep the elbow away from the body ( I do not have a physics back round or sports science) but does that help with leverage?, and i feel like my muscles are more relaxed when hitting. Also my coach stresses faster preparation and smoother stroke (I used to have a tendency to have my elbow tucked in and a jerky fast swing making power impossible. What are your thoughts on this hi10spro?
There are a couple of key elements - big, very obvious and easy to spot - whose execution makes aa pro forehand being better than an amateur forehand.
I'll sum up the goal of it and you will understand what is a good idea and what is a dumb idea.
You need to prepare the swing so you are balanced and in the best position possible to unleash in a controlled way the greatest amount of power you can and once you swing, you must loose as less energy as possible and remain blanaced until the end.
How do we do this? Instead of telling how to place your body and influence your own natural style, I will tell you what must be achieved.
1 -You must rotate your body so your elbows are + or - perpendicular to the net. Do not take the racket back with your arm: use your body rotation for the moment.
2- Let the racket go and take it back with your hitting arm - the important about this is that it must enable you to trace a C with your swing path.
It's funny you mention it my nephew is ambidextrous an when I taught him to play he would switch hands...meaning he never hit a backhand..just let her choose what she prefers...if she's a natural lefty she will play it..the way I understand after reading Nadals book and articles his uncle had a lot to do with rafael playing lefty.
springfield03sniper 1 month ago
@springfield03sniper i'm wondering about the footwork--when i tried to serve lefty, my feet get all screwed up so i wonder if that is contributing to nadal's knee issue
hi10spro 1 month ago
@springfield03sniper Yeh I often wonder what Nadal would be like if he never chose to play lefty. Personally, I don't see the huge advantage in lefties unless its the fact that you seldom get to play them. They can serve slice to your backhand on teh Ad side and you can do the same to them on the duce side. Their forehand goes to your backhand bvut your forehandgoes to theirs crosscourt...Everybody thinks its because hes a lefty that he beats Federer. Its because his spin and high bounces IMHO.
springfield03sniper 1 month ago
@springfield03sniper he would be a normal guy--he needs to be lefty or he would never have beat roger
hi10spro 1 month ago
@ULTCrob heheheheh hey i have a day job
hi10spro 1 month ago
you dont hold your elbow close to the body in the preperation .
saying that shows the guy in the video has no idea on what his talking about .
simple way to prove my point ? throw a tennis ball with your elbow close to your body, then try to throw another ball with the elbow a bit far from the body .
doh !!!!
sure, the arm needs to be close to the center of gravity but if its too close you lose the free motion of the arm . that is why the forehand in this video is terrible .
aviramdj 6 months ago
@aviramdj i'm talking about the set up, because the closer your elbows are to your body, the faster your set up
hi10spro 6 months ago
@hi10spro already in the setup the elbow needs to be a bit away from the stomach.
in high level of tennis when you dont have time and you need to sometimes to hit without a swing the prep' position for a stroke as fast as possible and as good as possible .
elbow tacked in is not good and wrong . very wrong... .and a mistake many coaches do unfortunately.
study bio-mechanics a bit .
aviramdj 6 months ago
@hi10spro watch federer .
aviramdj 6 months ago
what's the name of the guy in the red shirt who has the really fast but jerky forehand?
sendhelpbaylon 1 year ago
@sendhelpbaylon no clue. i think he played for Thammasat University
hi10spro 1 year ago
@sendhelpbaylon bachinger
hi10spro 1 month ago
when i hit my forehand i move my elbow just a bit back , like only a cm or 2 , just for comfort , and just release all my tentioned muscles all at once with the elbow a lil close to the body for power , is that right ?
cuz i get alot of power with that , and good control too , so does it matter if it isnt right , or its ok as long as u get the ball where u want ?
lol srry for the long comment XD
toutaaaaaaa 2 years ago
@toutaaaaaaa No, you must always use proper form even if your own way gives you better results.
dodododa 2 years ago
you mean Lendl should change his forehand to traditional, John McEnroe should fix his serve to something more normal. Roddick should serve differently. Monica Seles shouldn't use two hands. Connors should have hit his double handed more conventional...THINK ABOUT IT--body types are different, ability/talent so you got to do it the way you do it
hi10spro 2 years ago
@hi10spro Was being sarcastic.
dodododa 2 years ago
@dodododa sorry been dealing with a lot of wise ___ comments lately? more so than usual, and I've got a slight cold so I've been harsh... AHAHHAHA
hi10spro 2 years ago
The third guy has a lot of problem with his swing and it's not about his elbow; it's a very obvious mistake he makes.
He slows down the racket after releasing it from his non-hitting hand. Because of this, he has to compensate somehow else to meet the ball and to prove you how he does it, simply look how he seems to change his swing, like he is following a music beat rather than a continuous swing.
This is reason n1as to why his power and spin are lacking.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
Also, notice how the best forehand in tennis history is produced from a straight arm motion... Not too many people knows this, but after a study, they found only Rafael Nadal was able to produce more spin than the actual world number one, Roger Federer, off his average forehands.
More power, spin, consistancy, variety and control than anything ever witnessed so it's impossible to argue against that.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
there is not really a proper form. there some forms effective more then others and also safer so you don't get lots of injuries, but really i don't believe there is a proper form.
sendhelpbaylon 2 years ago
there are ways to hit really, really hard, but the price is usually injury. I used to teach this forehand, but in 80% of the people, the last step which adds massive spin and power...causes injury...bummer...
hi10spro 2 years ago
i think it's fine as long as something doesn't hurt.
hi10spro 2 years ago
That's the point of having a good form: a consistant and effective swing which enables one to play without damageing one's body.
If a shot fail to meet any of those principles - effectivenes, health and consistancy - then the shot is not good.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
what about Nadal and his knees? what about short term success? i mean pros usually last until they are 22 for the girls... would you sacrifice for that?
hi10spro 2 years ago
have you ever looked at video of nadal's backhand? and how it looks so painful? even his forehand looks physical... i think that's part of the things that contribute to his body breaking down plus he's a righty playing lefty
hi10spro 2 years ago
That is what I said: those strokes are not good because they are damageable to his body.
Health, efficiency and consistence. Meet all 3 or revise your swing.
Federer is an example to follow; nearly 29 and he's still beyond amazement. He's the perfect example fo a skillful tecnician who keeps working on his game. He was a Server-volleyer and now there is not a shot or a situation that doesn't seem to advanatge Roger Federer.
All form and technic.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
@hi10spro
dude, you have no idea about what you're talking about. nadal's backahand 'painful'? His body 'breaking down'? .....
joshwesthill 1 month ago
@joshwesthill you're joking right. nadal has a history of injuries for the last four years. my friend and i theorized that it's because he's actually right handed playing lefty
hi10spro 1 month ago
@hi10spro Yeh nadal plays so hard as well. every shot he throws himself after balls and that takes its toll..
springfield03sniper 1 month ago
@springfield03sniper you think it has to do with him being right handed and playing lefty--i'm debating about making sure my daughter is lefty
hi10spro 1 month ago
@toutaaaaaaa i think so
hi10spro 1 year ago
My coach always tells me to keep the elbow away from the body ( I do not have a physics back round or sports science) but does that help with leverage?, and i feel like my muscles are more relaxed when hitting. Also my coach stresses faster preparation and smoother stroke (I used to have a tendency to have my elbow tucked in and a jerky fast swing making power impossible. What are your thoughts on this hi10spro?
HeArTaGrAmXmAn 2 years ago
i'm going to cover this in detail. I found a good article on it and it's really perked my curiousity and also the importance of shoulder rotation...
hi10spro 2 years ago
There are a couple of key elements - big, very obvious and easy to spot - whose execution makes aa pro forehand being better than an amateur forehand.
I'll sum up the goal of it and you will understand what is a good idea and what is a dumb idea.
You need to prepare the swing so you are balanced and in the best position possible to unleash in a controlled way the greatest amount of power you can and once you swing, you must loose as less energy as possible and remain blanaced until the end.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
How do we do this? Instead of telling how to place your body and influence your own natural style, I will tell you what must be achieved.
1 -You must rotate your body so your elbows are + or - perpendicular to the net. Do not take the racket back with your arm: use your body rotation for the moment.
2- Let the racket go and take it back with your hitting arm - the important about this is that it must enable you to trace a C with your swing path.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
3- Once you let your racket go with your non-hitting arm and start bringing it back, there is no slowing down or stop - it's continuous until the end.
4-You need to follow through and let the racket extend in the direction of your target before crossing your body.
All these must be done as perfectly as possible and each key element must allow one another to be executed properly.
Find the way you like, but do all of them; any swing which does not allow this is a very bad swing.
GueorguiJoukov 2 years ago
and doesn't having the elbow more tucked gives your shot more spring power when you extend your arm out?
I preferably like the 3rd guy, its more easy to learn
lilxninja92 2 years ago
but his was the weakest...i know...what do you do? AHAHHA
hi10spro 2 years ago