tripping music just as good a pink floyd, gong (angels egg) have always gotten lost in this song, have drawn some interesting things while on the luna sea
My brother turned me on to Camel in the late 70;s; Lady Fantasy, song within a song, Never Let go...Changed my outlook on music forever...Beats the crap you hear today.
@erikbroek Only if you assume that mainstream music is all that's being created. There's plenty of great music coming out these days that's as good or better than the greats of the 70's.
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Funny: "I Can't Remember" by Bardens still sticks in my head, decades later. This Camel stuff does not grab me at all. Compare: almost any early Yes. almost any early Genesis. "Starless" and the entire first LP by King Crimson. Pawn Hearts by Van Der Graaf Generator. Those are what we call "melodies" and "hooks" This? 2-chord jam.
it is a sin to say that there is a more melodic band than camel.the melody they were producing in the early 70s was unimaginable.one word says it all:moonmadness-the number one piece ever recorded in the history of melodic rock music.no other words to describe it.magically beautiful!
@homeworldmusic man,you must be a fool telling me something like that:''you need to listen to more music'' cause i know music ten times better than you.you got to know me better to say things like that and i m just saying that camel beat any other prog rock band because of its band members' experience and all that stuff.im not being aggressive towards you,im just advising u.
And its a dirty shame that great music like this has been widely forgotten in time, especially for the people of my generation who never knew of it in the first and had to grow up listening to "music" that's hardly worthy of the title like overly simple punk rock & top 40 junk that lowers already low IQ's. I'm just happy that it was created in an era where it could be recorded in good quality. As such we need not be totally hopeless for the future of music, and for that I say thankya.
When did that word become socially acceptable? In my day only the lowest of the most vile, low IQ, disgusting, putrid idiots whom all the girls avoided at all costs said that word. I know all females still hate it so what gives?
Us adults are trying to listen to Camel and that is what I read... No hope for humanity!
@rufus566 first of all,whining about music is for cunts, It's completely useless. Second, 'Cunt' is, and will forever be a word. Yes, a word. Nothing more. Whenever I use it, I help the banalisation of that word. Who gives a fuck now if somebody says 'fuck' or 'shit' now? Nobody! 50 years ago, only the lowest of the most vile, low IQ, disgusting, putrid idiots whom all the girls avoided at all costs said those words. Socially acceptable? Conservative bullshit. Also, you're a cunt.
Well, good luck finding a girlfriend then. And if you do have one and she puts up with you saying that then she is a bigger loser than you. Go in front of a female and say that word and see how far you get. I guess I run in better more sophisticated circles than you do, but women of any standard shun anybody who would stoop so low as to use that word. Giving you advice, for when you grow up and start taking interest in girls(if that is where your interest lies)?
@rufus566 "I guess I run in better more sophisticated circles than you do"my circles realise that words are just words.If you are offended by words,it's your choice.Also since when should everything you do have to have'being,or talking with women'as an ultimate goal?I don't disrespect women,I disrespect cunts, and you mr.,are a cunt.Btw "start taking interest in girls(if that is where your interest lies)?"should I take this as an insult?What if women aren't my interest,would you be offended?
The biggest problem with the internet is that it allows uncouth people like you to make offensive comments and use extremely foul language, secure in the knowledge that they are immune from any retribution.
You say you move in sophisticated circles which accept the use of such terms? Well not the same ones I move in, that's for sure! I removed a PhD student from my research group 10 years ago because he often used offensive language and the university Chancellor supported me.
@MrHistorian123 Go ahead, ban me! Ban certain words! Even better, make some kind of index like the vatican used to have. You know people like Sartre, Voltaire and even Luther were on that index, just because they used certain ideas and words the vatican didn't like?
Ban you? Ban certain words? Not at all what I want to do. The hope is that rather than us censoring YOU, YOU will acquire the civility and common-sense to censor yourself on a public forum.
Freedom of speech is about the right to express views, not the manner in which you express them; that's just decency. As a Liberal, I would never support a restriction on freedom of speech.
@MrHistorian123 Helping me censor myself?By teaching me commonsense?That sounds to me like an eufimism of banning,or a mild form of it.Take for example the lyrics of todays music.They reach a much bigger public than I do,and I don't think the words they use show a sign of bigger decency.Lily Allen has a very popular song that's called'Fuck You'.You'll have to hope people will censor themselves from playing that song,and many others.What about Nirvana's 'Rape Me'?oh right 'Sexually assault me'
Just because others do it doesn't mean you have to sink to their level. We don't all have to conform to the values of the lowest common denominator. Rise above it!
Anyway, this Camel track is incredible by any standards. Let's get back to the music.
@MrHistorian123 Yeah,well,John Lennon's 'working class hero' has some 'fuck' here and there, Salingers 'Catcher in the Rye' uses the word 'fuck', and Caravan (with Richard Sinclair, former Camelmember) has an album that's called 'Cunning Stunts',a spoonerism on 'Stunning Cunts'.Also,Camels 'Down on the Farm'has the lyrics: "Great big pile of shit". Look it up.
And I'm not even quoting the many highly critically acclaimed movies that use 'extremely foul language'. I'd LOVE to sink to their level
@MrHistorian123 PWND!!!!! Now THAT are some CUNNING STUNTS. defeated by CAMEL THEMSELVES. lololololol, you're such a FUCKING CUNT. Also I think anything on camel, mirage or the snow goose is better than this.
@rufus566 Caravan, with former CAMELmember Richard Sinclair, gave out an album 'Cunning Stunts', a spoonerism of 'Stunning Cunts'. Also, in 'down on the farm' on the album Breathless by Camel, you can hear the lyrics: "A great big pile of shit". Camel would say you're a cunt. And they would be right. You ARE a cunt. A big fat fucking one. You can suck my balls.
@MrHistorian123 Haha XD, I've clearly won this discussion. My arguments are far superior than yours. Like I've said, Camelmembers themselves would agree with me,since they use these kind of words in their own art.(so I imagine them using it in their daily lives as well :D).This is fun!
Btw,now you're contradicting yourself. You're 'sinking to my level'.1st you say I'm offensive,then you ridicule an entire group of people who empty latrines as a living!?
Dude, I agree with Rufus man you need to grow up. That is a highly disrespectful term to women. Even if your gay that does not give you the right to disrespect women. Like Rufus said your 30 years old dude grow up. The gay card can't save you from being a troll.
Well those award winning caliber scenes of the sad lady recalling her lost romance with that idiot definitely made me appreciate the song a lot more. Ha, ya right. Kinda wish they didn't put that in the show, i'm sure some people need to see it to get how the song's supposed to feel and that it was a long goodbye. But anyone that's a fan shouldn't need the feminine visuals. Now if it showed her in a bikini towards the end it'd be a different story lol. Nonetheless a totally amazing song!
Sorry, but you're wrong. Doug Ferguson played bass on this tour and on this video. Sinclair joined after the Moonmadness tour. Besides, the style of bass playing is unmistakably Doug's.
No, i don't agree entirely. Ferguson created great bass lines with an economy which is remarkable. He composed and performed bass lines in a way which complements Ward's drumming and provides a perfect platform for Bardens and Latimer to weave their magic. Sinclair was jazzier and more technical, but I don't feel his basslines complement the music as well. I saw Sinclair on the Rain Dances tour and I felt his bass playing on the earlier stuff wasn't as effective as Ferguson's.
everytime I play this for someone whos never heard it before they all have this feeling they have heard it before! not because its copied or well known but because it JUST SOUNDS PERFECT. It is perfect music. No one can help but bob there head to the bobbing bass and swoon to the synth! I make it my mission to spread the word of Camel. One best days of my life was plane trip when I sat next to a guy who intro'd me to Marillion and I intrd him to Camel. we talked years later & thanked each other.
OK guys, to be honest , Camel is one of the greatest prog groups ever, they never received the recognition they truly deserve, but they are real musicians, they made these all masterpieces, just because they love music as we do , and they lived in a decade when musicians were really free to succeed in being artists. and u all know what this mean....
Let's be honest...the first 4 Camel albums were amazing because of the same 4 musicians that are in this video. After the Moonmadness album the sound changed as did the music, not saying it was better or worse, just not the same. I have every Camel album and I love them all (for the most part), but nothing comes close to the prog rock created by these 4 gentlemen in this video.
Camel unified the classical with the rock/ jazz more completely and qualitatively than any band -- oh, that statement is BS when one thinks of ELP, Yes, et all, but it is worth saying. Each rock classical expression was a valiant effort to marry heaven and hell and come up with a comprehensive Earth: a synthesis upon the analysis: the study -- the feet, heart and mind in both universes.
BRILLIANT!! Looking back over the years, I can only think of one other that does for me what CAMEL does.....takes me on an amazing journey with each and every performance. Does anyone remember Jon Luc Ponty? Jon played the electric violin, classical training as his parents were classical musicians. Camel and Jon Luc are timeless. But at the time they began performing I think they were so far ahead of what everyone else was doing! Simply brillant and timeless.
i saw Camel live in a venue in lower regent street London in the 70's they have musically played a huge part of my life and are one of the tightest bands i have ever heard
does anyone know where the venue was its not there now
Gracias por esta obra maestra del rock progresivo. Es deficil decidirse pero para mi es una de las mejores piezas de Camel, todos muestran su virtuosismo. Larga vida a Andrew Latimer, espero poder verlos pronto tocando.
I think camel is one of the most underrated bands of that era. They still remain one of my favorite groups. I'll try and post the ''god of light revisited'' song from the greasy truckers album. thanks for this one
Genius band. I'm still listening to them since 1976, and i never got bored at all. these days there are no new bands like them, but we can live on their memories.
@thekillingjimmy Dumb shit, I explicitly stating the music is amazing. I'm a long time Camel fan. So what If I think Andy is ugly, all english musicians are
@Amebixfan My dad looked like that throught 70s and 80s. Long black hair and everything. Fusion drummer himself and bigtime Camel fan. He might be even little bit uglier.
@pertybass: That's a good question and one that I have posed previously. If you watch their DVD "Moon Dances," Doug Ferguson seems to have been deliberately excluded from the filming, for reasons not known. After he was replaced by Richard Sinclair on bass, Sinclair got plenty of exposure. Pretty damn mean, if you ask me!
yea totally agree, Doug Ferguson DID the best bass lines with camel .. but may be he asked the director not to focus on him , cuz some people dont get comfortable in front of the camera i am also a bass player and I HATE filming :)
@pertybass yeah, that's what I was wondering. Politics? Or is it that bass players are usually in the background and out of the spotlight? Doug was a low-key guy and Sinclair was brought in to be a lead singer and front man. A shitty move on the band's part to treat a founding member like that/ Sinclair really fucked up the band's chemistry, driving Bardens out and then the band became Latimer and friends
Yes when considering that Latimer and Bardens skethed out the main body of The Snow Goose album in two weeks,- one can almost start to wonder if they were from this planet.
And don't even try to understand where Mirage came from. It is beyond anything.
We always thought that back then too. Really inventive and so difficult to attempt to cover which always gave you the greatest appreciation for the creators.
This is my favorite Camel song, a quintessential slice of UK 70s symphonic prog. It just hits all the right notes...it's thrilling to find concert footage of it from the time period. Just top-notch.
Dankalmanson and camelandu2- I'm so excited! I cant find the words to describe how your enlightening and informative comments have warmed my aged heart. Now I am literally on pins and needles waiting for all the wonderful new music to come flowing forth. After decades of watching noisy crap bands like Opeth (with those gothic images, a marketing tour de force indeed) come and go, the new Andy Latimers are now on their way!
Rejoice! Corporations be damned! A new era has begun!
whisky: Sarcasm? I think NOT! Hehe... All I was saying: The POSSIBILTY is there, the talent MIGHT be there, the WILLPOWER may be lacking... And after being fed pretty much bad music for about 25 years, the INSPIRATION may not be there.
P.S: I'm NOT an Opeth fan, but you have got admit that it's pretty cool that they are inspired by Camel... The guitarist even played a 5 second excerpt from Lady Fantasy between a song...
camelandu2 - I agree with you 100%...you hit the nail on the head.
I didn't know that about Opeth playing LF, that is most excellent. I felt the same way when I saw Dream Theater jamming with Yes' legendary guitarist Steve Howe. I just wish these newer prog bands, which are obviously full of spirit and technical talent, would someday come up with some innovative and meaningful music!
In the meantime here's hoping Andy will recover and get back to work!
In about a week or so I'll upload a couple of songs from a new Norwegian progrock band called Morild, who are VERY much inspired by Camel. They are also inspired by bands such as Jethro Tull, HØST and Procol Harum, and their music is fantastic.
And to add to your last statement: Let's hope for a CP update soon as well!
dankalmanson- I'm afraid your Economics 101 class has not served you well. Last I heard, we choose which newspapers, books, music, cable channels etc. to purchase. It's called free-market capitalism, and it's rampant in this country. The problem is the masses are by-and-large gullible and ignorant, not realizing what better products they could have if they demanded it. The corporations have taken full advantage of this fact, and as a result we receive mass-produced garbage.
But corporations cannot get as big as they are without government charity and help. Especially the banking industry with ties to the Federal Reserve(a government created monopoly). And to the point the claim that the masses do not demand better products, we do. We may not fill out a form, but with every dollar we spend, we tell the evil corporations what we like and do not like. I would love to explain this more, but I only have a short amount of space.
In the 70's in LA, Camel and any talented new group could be heard routinely on 4 radio stations...it was wonderful. What happened? People CHOSE not to listen and those stations were absorbed by corporations serving watered-down, repetitive crap that everyone lapped up like thirsty dogs. Likewise, people CHOSE to patronize Barnes and Noble, killing bookstores offering far greater variety and quality. Walmart, Best Buys, I could go on forever. None of this has anything to do with gov't charity.
What is wrong with those corporations going into business. I live in Sacramento and I can name at least 10 different independent book and CD stores many of which carry Camel vinyls. The beauty of capitalism is things never stay the same. The demand for 'talented' music by you and I has caused a rise in number of these independent entertainment businesses. Many of these 'evil' corporations have done nothing wrong but serve a popular demand.
Gruntol 5: No they do not. I am 17 and have loved camel and other bands like it for a few years now. There are plenty of bands coming out under indie labels which have excellent music. If I don't like what the corporations put out, I simply do not buy it. I have all of their albums on vinyl and I purchased them without a problem from a rather large independent store. You guys should get your heads out of you asses and breathe free air. (no malice meant)
I'm terribly sorry to interrupt what I'm shure will be a fine conversation, but isn't this the wrong setting? As Gruntol5 said, this video doesn't have many views, who will ever see it? Camel fans, who allready have Camel's intire catalouge...
camelandu2: I agree that this is not an ideal meeting spot, but where else, pray? Our comments here are inspired by a magnificent piece of art rock made before the dreaded "music industry" went into high gear and started selling us dumplings. Groups like Camel were discredited and labelled "dinosaurs," as they introduced the artless punk. The ignorant bought into this lie, and so killed off this great music. Why? Because it didn't make enough money for the fatcats. It was simply sabotage.
I agree that the music the big labels have put out since the mid '70s is pretty much bullcrap. Some of the artists are talentless, others are just misguided.
But nowadays it's easier and easier to make you own music on "your own label". You can get MIDI studios at a decent price, and if you take the time to do it properly, and have the music mastered at a "proper" studio, you can give out a worthy album. With YouTube and Facebook it's possible to do free marketing and reach quite a few people.
camelandu2, somewhere out there are a group of kids with just as much musical talent and creativity as Andy, Peter, Andy and Doug, who decided not to pursue their dream due to the stranglehold that marketing executives have on this industry. Putting it simply, a group like Camel wouldn't have a chance for success today.
That's simply wrong and I think this is a reasonable place to bring it up.
With all due respect this is absolutely bullshit. Look at bands such as Opeth and Mastodon. These are very unmarketable bands and they are signed with major labels. Very talented group of guys as well. Opeth has a huge influence from camel and have all of there songs over 8 minutes long. Mastodon is weird as shit and have long guitar solo filled songs with odd time signatures. again you guys should take your heads out of your asses and actually look around instead of bitch about music.
I agree, but this should be said a place where more people can see it. And IMHO, this conversation should "stay more on course". But you are of course entitled to say whatever you want.
I've said it before, I'll say it again - this is the most beautifully constructed and descriptive piece of rock music of all time. From it's mystical beginning through Andy Latimer's blistering solo and Andy Ward's fantastic drumming, it's an absolute tour de force. Latimer's run at 6.48 is just breathtaking. This video should have 10 X more viewings.
Sad, but true whisky. It's all part of the intentional dumbing down of the population. Do you ever get the impression that the western world is becoming polarised into two groups - the greedy fat cats/powermongers and the "sheeple?" The "sheeple" are dumbed down with a diet of crap TV, films, music, magazines, news, inadequate education and fleeced all the way through their lives, for the great benefit of the few. It's time for a revolution.
Gruntol- sometime in the mid-late 70's the industries you mentioned made the unfortunate discovery that "quality" bears no relationship to "sales". With effective marketing, people will eagerly swallow their own waste and beg for seconds.
Hence, today we have vast segments of the population letting Simon Cowell tell them who's "talented" and Sean Hannity tell them the important "'news". Good lord what a nation we've become.
I think you timing is exactly right. It's certainly borne out by the music world. Like H.G.Wells' Eloi, we are being "harvested" by the Morlocks. The only difference is that they don't eat us, they fleece us. The USA has taken capitalism to its' final conclusion. I wonder - what comes next?
Too bad the USA hasn't had capitalism since 1913. What we have is corporatism not a free-market. And to H.G. Wells, my main disagreement with his comparison of the Morlock to the 'capitalists' is that the Morlock use force to gain what they want. In a true capitalist system, you cannot use force or deception to get what you want. Both parties must benefit in a trade or else no trade takes place. Think critically about these issues and not just take an emotional look at economic systems.
dankalmanson: (any relation to Charlie?). I dont know what the 1913 you refer to, is. Everybody else calls this capitalism. Your cold analysis shows no emotion you should be angry, but I dont detect any. Your profile shows you to be 20 so know no other period. Im 68 and have seen all this shite unfold. We are all stiffed and stuffed by the large corporations, particularly those that control the media. My way to fight back is not to deal with them at all and I practice what I preach.
That is very true, and I have talked in other threads about the corporatization of music in the mid to late 70's. Before then, the artists were in charge of the music. Then corporations bought up the record companies and quit trying to make people's jaws drop to the floor over how great the music sounded. They just wanted to make gazillions of different walks of life like the music just enough to buy the albums. I don't know if that can ever be turned around.
(continued) The one hope we have is to promote corporate long term investment in music. Corporations go for the immediate dollar with acts that are quickly forgotten. Execs want the big success NOW so they can move up the corporate ladder NOW. But then their products go dead after they have made zillions of dollars. Real acts like Beatles, Zeppelin, Hendrix, Fleetwood Mac, etc. will live on forever and continue to make their companies money. Corporations need to focus on that principle.
I love that band so much. They are really obscure in the United States, and I got lucky hearing about them a while back from some guy who worked at a record store. I told him I love early Hawkwind, and he told me I would probably love a band called Camel. He was right. Somebody I ran into at the same record store told me about Ash Ra Tempel, another phenomenal progressive band of the 70's. There's a lot of great stuff out there that isn't mainstream.
hah, i'm 17, learned about camel around a year ago by Opeth (Mikael Akerfeldt's main influence is Camel and he thanks Latimer for the inspiration in their albums), i love both of em!
CAMEL,AWESOME
DavidFrazier100 6 days ago in playlist CAMEL
love camel !
voidstuff 3 weeks ago
awesome, easily as good as their studio version, thanks
tbob29sm 3 weeks ago
tripping music just as good a pink floyd, gong (angels egg) have always gotten lost in this song, have drawn some interesting things while on the luna sea
covertblackledge 3 months ago
My brother turned me on to Camel in the late 70;s; Lady Fantasy, song within a song, Never Let go...Changed my outlook on music forever...Beats the crap you hear today.
erikbroek 4 months ago 3
@erikbroek Only if you assume that mainstream music is all that's being created. There's plenty of great music coming out these days that's as good or better than the greats of the 70's.
Arglactable 3 months ago
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Funny: "I Can't Remember" by Bardens still sticks in my head, decades later. This Camel stuff does not grab me at all. Compare: almost any early Yes. almost any early Genesis. "Starless" and the entire first LP by King Crimson. Pawn Hearts by Van Der Graaf Generator. Those are what we call "melodies" and "hooks" This? 2-chord jam.
homeworldmusic 4 months ago
@homeworldmusic shut up and enjoy :camelface:
finderil 3 months ago
so good!!!
EngelNr666 4 months ago
o o o o sin palabras, a la luna y de regreso.
to the moon and back
MrCONEJODELALUNA 4 months ago
it is a sin to say that there is a more melodic band than camel.the melody they were producing in the early 70s was unimaginable.one word says it all:moonmadness-the number one piece ever recorded in the history of melodic rock music.no other words to describe it.magically beautiful!
thekillingjimmy 5 months ago 3
@thekillingjimmy The only prog band which may be more melodic is Caravan. We all know Camel and Caravan are underappreciated and unmatched!
calmsea 4 months ago
@thekillingjimmy I would call it noodling. Nothing as melodic as Yes, Genesis or King Crimson. Pleasant jams. You need to listen to more music.
homeworldmusic 4 months ago
@homeworldmusic man,you must be a fool telling me something like that:''you need to listen to more music'' cause i know music ten times better than you.you got to know me better to say things like that and i m just saying that camel beat any other prog rock band because of its band members' experience and all that stuff.im not being aggressive towards you,im just advising u.
thekillingjimmy 4 months ago
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thekillingjimmy 5 months ago
This performance is absolutely magic. To see Bardens up close during his Moog solo is a gift. A truly inspirational band.
calmsea 5 months ago 2
anyone know what instrumentation use peter bardens on that live session?? thanks
GardenProg 5 months ago in playlist oude pop
saw my first pot party with this great music during the 1970's.
tumak1966 6 months ago
If i want to see a bunch of wankers I will go elsewhere what about this amazing music!
rohita39 6 months ago
andrew latimer is one of the best guitar players and composer that ever lived.
and Camel probably one of the best prog/rock bands ever,for sure top 10.
talibe801 7 months ago
And its a dirty shame that great music like this has been widely forgotten in time, especially for the people of my generation who never knew of it in the first and had to grow up listening to "music" that's hardly worthy of the title like overly simple punk rock & top 40 junk that lowers already low IQ's. I'm just happy that it was created in an era where it could be recorded in good quality. As such we need not be totally hopeless for the future of music, and for that I say thankya.
i2rent 7 months ago
@i2rent you're a cunt
Makksor 7 months ago
@Makksor
When did that word become socially acceptable? In my day only the lowest of the most vile, low IQ, disgusting, putrid idiots whom all the girls avoided at all costs said that word. I know all females still hate it so what gives?
Us adults are trying to listen to Camel and that is what I read... No hope for humanity!
rufus566 7 months ago
@rufus566 first of all,whining about music is for cunts, It's completely useless. Second, 'Cunt' is, and will forever be a word. Yes, a word. Nothing more. Whenever I use it, I help the banalisation of that word. Who gives a fuck now if somebody says 'fuck' or 'shit' now? Nobody! 50 years ago, only the lowest of the most vile, low IQ, disgusting, putrid idiots whom all the girls avoided at all costs said those words. Socially acceptable? Conservative bullshit. Also, you're a cunt.
Makksor 7 months ago
@Makksor
Well, good luck finding a girlfriend then. And if you do have one and she puts up with you saying that then she is a bigger loser than you. Go in front of a female and say that word and see how far you get. I guess I run in better more sophisticated circles than you do, but women of any standard shun anybody who would stoop so low as to use that word. Giving you advice, for when you grow up and start taking interest in girls(if that is where your interest lies)?
rufus566 7 months ago
@rufus566 "I guess I run in better more sophisticated circles than you do"my circles realise that words are just words.If you are offended by words,it's your choice.Also since when should everything you do have to have'being,or talking with women'as an ultimate goal?I don't disrespect women,I disrespect cunts, and you mr.,are a cunt.Btw "start taking interest in girls(if that is where your interest lies)?"should I take this as an insult?What if women aren't my interest,would you be offended?
Makksor 7 months ago
@Makksor
Dude your 30 years old grow up! End of discussion.
rufus566 7 months ago
@rufus566 welcome to the internet
Makksor 7 months ago
@Makksor
The biggest problem with the internet is that it allows uncouth people like you to make offensive comments and use extremely foul language, secure in the knowledge that they are immune from any retribution.
You say you move in sophisticated circles which accept the use of such terms? Well not the same ones I move in, that's for sure! I removed a PhD student from my research group 10 years ago because he often used offensive language and the university Chancellor supported me.
MrHistorian123 6 months ago
@MrHistorian123 Go ahead, ban me! Ban certain words! Even better, make some kind of index like the vatican used to have. You know people like Sartre, Voltaire and even Luther were on that index, just because they used certain ideas and words the vatican didn't like?
I correct myself: welcome to the WORLD.
Freedom of speech :)
Makksor 6 months ago
@Makksor
Ban you? Ban certain words? Not at all what I want to do. The hope is that rather than us censoring YOU, YOU will acquire the civility and common-sense to censor yourself on a public forum.
Freedom of speech is about the right to express views, not the manner in which you express them; that's just decency. As a Liberal, I would never support a restriction on freedom of speech.
MrHistorian123 6 months ago
@MrHistorian123 Helping me censor myself?By teaching me commonsense?That sounds to me like an eufimism of banning,or a mild form of it.Take for example the lyrics of todays music.They reach a much bigger public than I do,and I don't think the words they use show a sign of bigger decency.Lily Allen has a very popular song that's called'Fuck You'.You'll have to hope people will censor themselves from playing that song,and many others.What about Nirvana's 'Rape Me'?oh right 'Sexually assault me'
Makksor 6 months ago
@Makksor
Just because others do it doesn't mean you have to sink to their level. We don't all have to conform to the values of the lowest common denominator. Rise above it!
Anyway, this Camel track is incredible by any standards. Let's get back to the music.
MrHistorian123 6 months ago
@MrHistorian123 Yeah,well,John Lennon's 'working class hero' has some 'fuck' here and there, Salingers 'Catcher in the Rye' uses the word 'fuck', and Caravan (with Richard Sinclair, former Camelmember) has an album that's called 'Cunning Stunts',a spoonerism on 'Stunning Cunts'.Also,Camels 'Down on the Farm'has the lyrics: "Great big pile of shit". Look it up.
And I'm not even quoting the many highly critically acclaimed movies that use 'extremely foul language'. I'd LOVE to sink to their level
Makksor 6 months ago
@MrHistorian123 PWND!!!!! Now THAT are some CUNNING STUNTS. defeated by CAMEL THEMSELVES. lololololol, you're such a FUCKING CUNT. Also I think anything on camel, mirage or the snow goose is better than this.
Makksor 6 months ago
@rufus566 Caravan, with former CAMELmember Richard Sinclair, gave out an album 'Cunning Stunts', a spoonerism of 'Stunning Cunts'. Also, in 'down on the farm' on the album Breathless by Camel, you can hear the lyrics: "A great big pile of shit". Camel would say you're a cunt. And they would be right. You ARE a cunt. A big fat fucking one. You can suck my balls.
Makksor 6 months ago
@Makksor
You really are an offensive, crude little oxygen thief, aren't you?
Grow up and go back to your job emptying latrines, because that's what your intellect merits.
MrHistorian123 6 months ago
@MrHistorian123 Haha XD, I've clearly won this discussion. My arguments are far superior than yours. Like I've said, Camelmembers themselves would agree with me,since they use these kind of words in their own art.(so I imagine them using it in their daily lives as well :D).This is fun!
Btw,now you're contradicting yourself. You're 'sinking to my level'.1st you say I'm offensive,then you ridicule an entire group of people who empty latrines as a living!?
University? Really? you're pathetic ;)
Makksor 6 months ago
@Makksor
Dude, I agree with Rufus man you need to grow up. That is a highly disrespectful term to women. Even if your gay that does not give you the right to disrespect women. Like Rufus said your 30 years old dude grow up. The gay card can't save you from being a troll.
twainname 7 months ago
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i2rent 7 months ago
Well those award winning caliber scenes of the sad lady recalling her lost romance with that idiot definitely made me appreciate the song a lot more. Ha, ya right. Kinda wish they didn't put that in the show, i'm sure some people need to see it to get how the song's supposed to feel and that it was a long goodbye. But anyone that's a fan shouldn't need the feminine visuals. Now if it showed her in a bikini towards the end it'd be a different story lol. Nonetheless a totally amazing song!
i2rent 7 months ago
Bardens' work on the synthesizer is absolutely mesmerizing. Such control. Brings a tear to my eye every time.
calmsea 8 months ago
Awesome piece of music from one of the finest bands ever
supercolbe 9 months ago 3
just beyond this world
annavoig19 9 months ago 2
Just love this track. First class band.
walkabou5 10 months ago
Camel will always be Premiership prog in my eyes.................
dwaffy1 10 months ago 2
Camel: the best of the 2nd division of progressive ùusic
iade38 10 months ago
It's lunacy.
perplexedmoth 11 months ago
D, Ferguson one of the most underated drummers
toolboxdam 11 months ago
@toolboxdam
Doug Ferguson played bass, actually. And he never appears on videos if he can avoid it.
The drummer is Andy Ward!
MrHistorian123 11 months ago
@MrHistorian123 of course ,i made a mistake thanks
toolboxdam 11 months ago
@ RICHARD SINCLAIR WAS BASSIST ROUND THIS PERIOD
ieatsick 10 months ago
@ieatsick
Sorry, but you're wrong. Doug Ferguson played bass on this tour and on this video. Sinclair joined after the Moonmadness tour. Besides, the style of bass playing is unmistakably Doug's.
MrHistorian123 10 months ago
@MrHistorian123 i taKE YOUR WORD FOR IT THO U HAVE TO ADMIT IT SINCLAIRS A GREAT BASSIST BETTER THAN FERGUSON
ieatsick 10 months ago
@ieatsick
No, i don't agree entirely. Ferguson created great bass lines with an economy which is remarkable. He composed and performed bass lines in a way which complements Ward's drumming and provides a perfect platform for Bardens and Latimer to weave their magic. Sinclair was jazzier and more technical, but I don't feel his basslines complement the music as well. I saw Sinclair on the Rain Dances tour and I felt his bass playing on the earlier stuff wasn't as effective as Ferguson's.
MrHistorian123 10 months ago
@MrHistorian123 you may be right, i love all musicians camel and caravan produced anyway
ieatsick 10 months ago
@ieatsick
We agree on that, for sure!
MrHistorian123 10 months ago
I went to a show in Mexico en 2001 it was awsome =) a really good band.
daho17 11 months ago
everytime I play this for someone whos never heard it before they all have this feeling they have heard it before! not because its copied or well known but because it JUST SOUNDS PERFECT. It is perfect music. No one can help but bob there head to the bobbing bass and swoon to the synth! I make it my mission to spread the word of Camel. One best days of my life was plane trip when I sat next to a guy who intro'd me to Marillion and I intrd him to Camel. we talked years later & thanked each other.
NOCHTIcom 1 year ago 2
Definitely one of if not the best Camel track ever. Keep trying to play this but have trouble finding a drummer that can count to 5! jj
jumb0j0ck 1 year ago 3
A message from Venice, Italy: Camel's best track, in my opinion...
zorman743 1 year ago
Wow ....just... wow !
syrik5 1 year ago
Este tema realmente te transporta a la luna !!!!!
francocinalli 1 year ago
OK guys, to be honest , Camel is one of the greatest prog groups ever, they never received the recognition they truly deserve, but they are real musicians, they made these all masterpieces, just because they love music as we do , and they lived in a decade when musicians were really free to succeed in being artists. and u all know what this mean....
KillingLies1 1 year ago 21
Let's be honest...the first 4 Camel albums were amazing because of the same 4 musicians that are in this video. After the Moonmadness album the sound changed as did the music, not saying it was better or worse, just not the same. I have every Camel album and I love them all (for the most part), but nothing comes close to the prog rock created by these 4 gentlemen in this video.
mawpsych 1 year ago 10
definitivamente genial!!!
bhaktiklau 1 year ago
Nice. And I'm okay with having poorer video quality since this one has good audio quality.
himtroy 1 year ago
Camel unified the classical with the rock/ jazz more completely and qualitatively than any band -- oh, that statement is BS when one thinks of ELP, Yes, et all, but it is worth saying. Each rock classical expression was a valiant effort to marry heaven and hell and come up with a comprehensive Earth: a synthesis upon the analysis: the study -- the feet, heart and mind in both universes.
davidfaubion 1 year ago
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This band has made some of the best progressive rock ever, it's a shame they've always been so terribly underrated.
anthiondel 1 year ago
This band has made some of the best progressive rock ever, it's a shame they're so terribly underrated.
anthiondel 1 year ago
BRILLIANT!! Looking back over the years, I can only think of one other that does for me what CAMEL does.....takes me on an amazing journey with each and every performance. Does anyone remember Jon Luc Ponty? Jon played the electric violin, classical training as his parents were classical musicians. Camel and Jon Luc are timeless. But at the time they began performing I think they were so far ahead of what everyone else was doing! Simply brillant and timeless.
irishsetterarchie 1 year ago 2
Lunar Sea is an extraordinary piece of music.
andyth55 1 year ago 2
i saw Camel live in a venue in lower regent street London in the 70's they have musically played a huge part of my life and are one of the tightest bands i have ever heard
does anyone know where the venue was its not there now
mattcorrabaun 1 year ago
prog rock is the only form of popular music that worth getting into, for someone who sees music as an art form that is
cherryorchards 1 year ago
Thank you :)
jmb92555 1 year ago
If you like this - check out Andy Ward's website at andywardmusic. com.
DiDijewellery 1 year ago
Andys the fuckin man!
hershumi 1 year ago
@hershumi Totally agree.
Have you checked out his website - andywardmusic. com?
DiDijewellery 1 year ago
@hershumi Totally agree. Have you checked out Andy's website? Andywardmusic. com.
DiDijewellery 1 year ago
music for posterity..
nalcow 1 year ago
I like that mini moog sound...
nalcow 1 year ago
How is Andrew anyone know, we miss Camel and Andy.
lossiemouthden 1 year ago
@lossiemouthden According to the Camel Productions website he is "doing great" (posted July 2010)
graememckerrell 1 year ago
who do you like more ?it was the question with a friend ,he said pinkfloyd ,ofcourse i said camel...ami wrong?ha
toolboxdam 1 year ago
Man....I used to play my air-guitar HARD to this one, back in college !!
MGrayNZ 1 year ago
Gracias por esta obra maestra del rock progresivo. Es deficil decidirse pero para mi es una de las mejores piezas de Camel, todos muestran su virtuosismo. Larga vida a Andrew Latimer, espero poder verlos pronto tocando.
FlorenciaB2 1 year ago
I heard Camel more than a decade ago, in that time, i going to the bed, smoked a few... and flyyyyyyyyy :) good memories :)
tecagroindustrial 1 year ago
I think camel is one of the most underrated bands of that era. They still remain one of my favorite groups. I'll try and post the ''god of light revisited'' song from the greasy truckers album. thanks for this one
sotrisi 1 year ago
very good camel nice songs lunar sea
programatrilhadorock 1 year ago
this is also what i was wondering about.i cant see doug ferguson in all of the videos!!!
thekillingjimmy 1 year ago
VERY GOOD! Girls Aloud eat your heart out!
waitingformusic 1 year ago
Great song!
Forever2rocks 1 year ago
fantastic...rhythm, bass and the mini solo...hard to forget
puggo 1 year ago
Genius band. I'm still listening to them since 1976, and i never got bored at all. these days there are no new bands like them, but we can live on their memories.
bobbigboss111 1 year ago
I first experienced the music of Camel at the Griffith observatory in L.A.
at a Laserium show this was the opening song..on a sky full of stars..simply Awsome band
SDsailor7 1 year ago
I did unforunately never got a chance to see them perform but god knows I wish I did!
This was the first album I bought with them. I still love it!
Rayneenights 1 year ago
nice minimoog action
soopahsoopah 1 year ago
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Latimer is such an ugly bastard, amazing music though
Amebixfan 1 year ago
@Amebixfan what the hell!ugly maybe but not bastard you asshole!!! WHY DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO IF YOU DONT LIKE HIM?!?!!?!
thekillingjimmy 1 year ago
@thekillingjimmy Dumb shit, I explicitly stating the music is amazing. I'm a long time Camel fan. So what If I think Andy is ugly, all english musicians are
Amebixfan 1 year ago
@Amebixfan My dad looked like that throught 70s and 80s. Long black hair and everything. Fusion drummer himself and bigtime Camel fan. He might be even little bit uglier.
Kakkapieru 1 year ago
@Amebixfan
He's wife's better looking than anyone you'll ever sleep with, that's for sure.
MrHistorian123 7 months ago
amazing work from all of camel xxx what a great band !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
papalazerus22 1 year ago
It is so mad-I saw them 40 years ago----I did work 4 them...my tears keep falling down to the floor when I hear this....goddammn it-I am crying!
Sponge14U 2 years ago 30
@Sponge14U What work you do for them?
Akron162 1 year ago
@Sponge14U jesus christ you have had the best experience in life ever i wish i could have been you
no lie
muchtoohard 1 year ago
@Sponge14U FAGGOT!
ieatsick 10 months ago
@Sponge14U lol
WingNutLCC 6 months ago
Eargasm.
Ostebaronen 2 years ago 30
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Hahahahhaha..... i♥thc and lsd....
thc539 2 years ago
Where is Doug Ferguson ???
pertybass 2 years ago 2
@pertybass: That's a good question and one that I have posed previously. If you watch their DVD "Moon Dances," Doug Ferguson seems to have been deliberately excluded from the filming, for reasons not known. After he was replaced by Richard Sinclair on bass, Sinclair got plenty of exposure. Pretty damn mean, if you ask me!
Gruntol5 2 years ago
Ferguson apparently had no great vibe with the group in general, so he was replaced by sinclair, then we had commercial honey
joaqui1902 2 years ago
@joaqui1902 : Which means the camera men were told "avoid getting Doug Ferguson in your viewer." How mean is that? Ah well - water under the bridge.
Gruntol5 2 years ago
yea totally agree, Doug Ferguson DID the best bass lines with camel .. but may be he asked the director not to focus on him , cuz some people dont get comfortable in front of the camera i am also a bass player and I HATE filming :)
justbefoda 2 years ago
@pertybass yeah, that's what I was wondering. Politics? Or is it that bass players are usually in the background and out of the spotlight? Doug was a low-key guy and Sinclair was brought in to be a lead singer and front man. A shitty move on the band's part to treat a founding member like that/ Sinclair really fucked up the band's chemistry, driving Bardens out and then the band became Latimer and friends
BobHunter1977 2 years ago
musical orgasm!
RoyaltyOfMayhem 2 years ago 2
check out Tonto's Expanding Headband also for great 70's moog.
trelcious 2 years ago
best minimoog solo ever recorded period.
pfmdude 2 years ago 2
OMFG!!! Love this band... this is fucking epic!
...Go Andy !!
Pablito73X 2 years ago
Yes when considering that Latimer and Bardens skethed out the main body of The Snow Goose album in two weeks,- one can almost start to wonder if they were from this planet.
And don't even try to understand where Mirage came from. It is beyond anything.
000Rhayader000 2 years ago 19
@000Rhayader000 why doug ferguson isnt in the camera?
thekillingjimmy 1 year ago
@thekillingjimmy They are just observing the number 1 rule of filming live music; NEVER show the bass player.
council 1 year ago
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@000Rhayader000
"...considering that Latimer and Bardens skethed out the main body of The Snow Goose album in two weeks..."
Where did you get this info?
coniglius 1 year ago
flawless!
Shinin111 2 years ago 2
How did they make such amazing master peices? Which planet were they from?!!!
helloall97 2 years ago 3
We always thought that back then too. Really inventive and so difficult to attempt to cover which always gave you the greatest appreciation for the creators.
EdgeSuper 2 years ago
thanks so much for this! Classic Camel RIP Pete
paul7703 2 years ago
This is my favorite Camel song, a quintessential slice of UK 70s symphonic prog. It just hits all the right notes...it's thrilling to find concert footage of it from the time period. Just top-notch.
mtopper66 2 years ago 4
Great concert footage! Thank you!
gratefuldead68 2 years ago 3
Dankalmanson and camelandu2- I'm so excited! I cant find the words to describe how your enlightening and informative comments have warmed my aged heart. Now I am literally on pins and needles waiting for all the wonderful new music to come flowing forth. After decades of watching noisy crap bands like Opeth (with those gothic images, a marketing tour de force indeed) come and go, the new Andy Latimers are now on their way!
Rejoice! Corporations be damned! A new era has begun!
whisky2roxy 2 years ago
whisky: Sarcasm? I think NOT! Hehe... All I was saying: The POSSIBILTY is there, the talent MIGHT be there, the WILLPOWER may be lacking... And after being fed pretty much bad music for about 25 years, the INSPIRATION may not be there.
P.S: I'm NOT an Opeth fan, but you have got admit that it's pretty cool that they are inspired by Camel... The guitarist even played a 5 second excerpt from Lady Fantasy between a song...
camelandu2 2 years ago
camelandu2 - I agree with you 100%...you hit the nail on the head.
I didn't know that about Opeth playing LF, that is most excellent. I felt the same way when I saw Dream Theater jamming with Yes' legendary guitarist Steve Howe. I just wish these newer prog bands, which are obviously full of spirit and technical talent, would someday come up with some innovative and meaningful music!
In the meantime here's hoping Andy will recover and get back to work!
whisky2roxy 2 years ago
whisky - thanks!
In about a week or so I'll upload a couple of songs from a new Norwegian progrock band called Morild, who are VERY much inspired by Camel. They are also inspired by bands such as Jethro Tull, HØST and Procol Harum, and their music is fantastic.
And to add to your last statement: Let's hope for a CP update soon as well!
camelandu2 2 years ago
genesis
NELPETE 2 years ago
dankalmanson- I'm afraid your Economics 101 class has not served you well. Last I heard, we choose which newspapers, books, music, cable channels etc. to purchase. It's called free-market capitalism, and it's rampant in this country. The problem is the masses are by-and-large gullible and ignorant, not realizing what better products they could have if they demanded it. The corporations have taken full advantage of this fact, and as a result we receive mass-produced garbage.
whisky2roxy 2 years ago
But corporations cannot get as big as they are without government charity and help. Especially the banking industry with ties to the Federal Reserve(a government created monopoly). And to the point the claim that the masses do not demand better products, we do. We may not fill out a form, but with every dollar we spend, we tell the evil corporations what we like and do not like. I would love to explain this more, but I only have a short amount of space.
dankalmanson 2 years ago
In the 70's in LA, Camel and any talented new group could be heard routinely on 4 radio stations...it was wonderful. What happened? People CHOSE not to listen and those stations were absorbed by corporations serving watered-down, repetitive crap that everyone lapped up like thirsty dogs. Likewise, people CHOSE to patronize Barnes and Noble, killing bookstores offering far greater variety and quality. Walmart, Best Buys, I could go on forever. None of this has anything to do with gov't charity.
whisky2roxy 2 years ago 2
What is wrong with those corporations going into business. I live in Sacramento and I can name at least 10 different independent book and CD stores many of which carry Camel vinyls. The beauty of capitalism is things never stay the same. The demand for 'talented' music by you and I has caused a rise in number of these independent entertainment businesses. Many of these 'evil' corporations have done nothing wrong but serve a popular demand.
dankalmanson 2 years ago
dankalmanson: "Many of these 'evil' corporations have done nothing wrong but serve a popular demand."
Yes, they have done something wrong. They now control what is on offer. Enough said.
Gruntol5 2 years ago
Gruntol 5: No they do not. I am 17 and have loved camel and other bands like it for a few years now. There are plenty of bands coming out under indie labels which have excellent music. If I don't like what the corporations put out, I simply do not buy it. I have all of their albums on vinyl and I purchased them without a problem from a rather large independent store. You guys should get your heads out of you asses and breathe free air. (no malice meant)
and whisky: I think i detect sarcasm.
dankalmanson 2 years ago
dankalmanson: Your profile lists you as 20, but you state that you are 17. Are you a tad confused?
We are more than "bitching about music." We are bitching about our lives being controlled by large corporations.
Gruntol5 2 years ago
I do that so I can confirm my birthdate and watch any flagged videos. I don't really want to argue this anymore, it is getting boring.
dankalmanson 2 years ago
That's wonderful news!
I can't tell you how pleased I am that you and millions of others are happy with what the music industry and corporate America have become.
whisky2roxy 2 years ago
I'm terribly sorry to interrupt what I'm shure will be a fine conversation, but isn't this the wrong setting? As Gruntol5 said, this video doesn't have many views, who will ever see it? Camel fans, who allready have Camel's intire catalouge...
camelandu2 2 years ago
camelandu2: I agree that this is not an ideal meeting spot, but where else, pray? Our comments here are inspired by a magnificent piece of art rock made before the dreaded "music industry" went into high gear and started selling us dumplings. Groups like Camel were discredited and labelled "dinosaurs," as they introduced the artless punk. The ignorant bought into this lie, and so killed off this great music. Why? Because it didn't make enough money for the fatcats. It was simply sabotage.
Gruntol5 2 years ago 2
I agree that the music the big labels have put out since the mid '70s is pretty much bullcrap. Some of the artists are talentless, others are just misguided.
But nowadays it's easier and easier to make you own music on "your own label". You can get MIDI studios at a decent price, and if you take the time to do it properly, and have the music mastered at a "proper" studio, you can give out a worthy album. With YouTube and Facebook it's possible to do free marketing and reach quite a few people.
camelandu2 2 years ago
camelandu2, somewhere out there are a group of kids with just as much musical talent and creativity as Andy, Peter, Andy and Doug, who decided not to pursue their dream due to the stranglehold that marketing executives have on this industry. Putting it simply, a group like Camel wouldn't have a chance for success today.
That's simply wrong and I think this is a reasonable place to bring it up.
whisky2roxy 2 years ago 4
With all due respect this is absolutely bullshit. Look at bands such as Opeth and Mastodon. These are very unmarketable bands and they are signed with major labels. Very talented group of guys as well. Opeth has a huge influence from camel and have all of there songs over 8 minutes long. Mastodon is weird as shit and have long guitar solo filled songs with odd time signatures. again you guys should take your heads out of your asses and actually look around instead of bitch about music.
dankalmanson 2 years ago
I agree, but this should be said a place where more people can see it. And IMHO, this conversation should "stay more on course". But you are of course entitled to say whatever you want.
camelandu2 2 years ago
I've said it before, I'll say it again - this is the most beautifully constructed and descriptive piece of rock music of all time. From it's mystical beginning through Andy Latimer's blistering solo and Andy Ward's fantastic drumming, it's an absolute tour de force. Latimer's run at 6.48 is just breathtaking. This video should have 10 X more viewings.
Gruntol5 2 years ago 5
Substitute a young woman with a low-cut blouse as its initial picture and I'll guarantee a million views by tomorrow
Unfortunately most of those new viewers will get bored after a few seconds and run screaming back to their eminem clips
whisky2roxy 2 years ago
Sad, but true whisky. It's all part of the intentional dumbing down of the population. Do you ever get the impression that the western world is becoming polarised into two groups - the greedy fat cats/powermongers and the "sheeple?" The "sheeple" are dumbed down with a diet of crap TV, films, music, magazines, news, inadequate education and fleeced all the way through their lives, for the great benefit of the few. It's time for a revolution.
Gruntol5 2 years ago 2
Gruntol- sometime in the mid-late 70's the industries you mentioned made the unfortunate discovery that "quality" bears no relationship to "sales". With effective marketing, people will eagerly swallow their own waste and beg for seconds.
Hence, today we have vast segments of the population letting Simon Cowell tell them who's "talented" and Sean Hannity tell them the important "'news". Good lord what a nation we've become.
whisky2roxy 2 years ago
I think you timing is exactly right. It's certainly borne out by the music world. Like H.G.Wells' Eloi, we are being "harvested" by the Morlocks. The only difference is that they don't eat us, they fleece us. The USA has taken capitalism to its' final conclusion. I wonder - what comes next?
Gruntol5 2 years ago
Too bad the USA hasn't had capitalism since 1913. What we have is corporatism not a free-market. And to H.G. Wells, my main disagreement with his comparison of the Morlock to the 'capitalists' is that the Morlock use force to gain what they want. In a true capitalist system, you cannot use force or deception to get what you want. Both parties must benefit in a trade or else no trade takes place. Think critically about these issues and not just take an emotional look at economic systems.
dankalmanson 2 years ago
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Gruntol5 2 years ago
dankalmanson: (any relation to Charlie?). I dont know what the 1913 you refer to, is. Everybody else calls this capitalism. Your cold analysis shows no emotion you should be angry, but I dont detect any. Your profile shows you to be 20 so know no other period. Im 68 and have seen all this shite unfold. We are all stiffed and stuffed by the large corporations, particularly those that control the media. My way to fight back is not to deal with them at all and I practice what I preach.
Gruntol5 2 years ago
That is very true, and I have talked in other threads about the corporatization of music in the mid to late 70's. Before then, the artists were in charge of the music. Then corporations bought up the record companies and quit trying to make people's jaws drop to the floor over how great the music sounded. They just wanted to make gazillions of different walks of life like the music just enough to buy the albums. I don't know if that can ever be turned around.
thimoneus 2 years ago 2
(continued) The one hope we have is to promote corporate long term investment in music. Corporations go for the immediate dollar with acts that are quickly forgotten. Execs want the big success NOW so they can move up the corporate ladder NOW. But then their products go dead after they have made zillions of dollars. Real acts like Beatles, Zeppelin, Hendrix, Fleetwood Mac, etc. will live on forever and continue to make their companies money. Corporations need to focus on that principle.
thimoneus 2 years ago
I love that band so much. They are really obscure in the United States, and I got lucky hearing about them a while back from some guy who worked at a record store. I told him I love early Hawkwind, and he told me I would probably love a band called Camel. He was right. Somebody I ran into at the same record store told me about Ash Ra Tempel, another phenomenal progressive band of the 70's. There's a lot of great stuff out there that isn't mainstream.
thimoneus 2 years ago
Holy shit this is probably the best prog ever made!
McLeod54 2 years ago 3
Why the bassist is never showed?
uacho 2 years ago
Doug Fergusion was on the verge of leaving Camel about this time. Guess he just wanted to fade away.
Green2Beret 2 years ago
Andy Latimer, David Gilmour and Steve Rothery and then it is quit for a long time....so much emotion........get well Andy!!!!
arthur9010 2 years ago
I like Steve Hackett, too. But I certainly know what you mean. Latimer is ace...
tyjochay 2 years ago
Fantastic! Hoping Andy Latimer is well... :)
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
i practice this on keyboard and i got it =]
HAIL CAMEL!!
SpiritCusher 2 years ago
Hahaha, I practise the Bardens' keyboard parts on the guitar, and I got it too :P
Indeed, hail Camel
EriktheHermit 2 years ago
yeas amen
candrespenava 2 years ago
This is such a good Camel tune, along with Nimrodel
EriktheHermit 2 years ago
Awesome. This and The Snow Goose are their best (IMHO).
jacksonkellycorey 2 years ago
I'm problably the youngest: 12 years old and already a big fan
musicboy2602 2 years ago 7
hah, i'm 17, learned about camel around a year ago by Opeth (Mikael Akerfeldt's main influence is Camel and he thanks Latimer for the inspiration in their albums), i love both of em!
EriktheHermit 2 years ago
I'm 15, but have been listening to them my whole life! So great that young people appreciate REAL music!
camelandu2 2 years ago