lol damn is that just on the stucco? or the foundation as a base with no mortar? I don't understand .....but I do know that if installed with the best products and systems that stone like this and most others can last a hundred years or more
There is a couple reasons why this application of stone veneer lost its adhesion. 1st the mortar used was not suffice and did not contain any bonding agent as recommended by the manufacturer. 2nd my suspicion is (judging by the powdery layer on the scratch coat) the scratch coat either again the wrong masonry product or it was exposed to sub zero temperatures or as somebody already noted, its possible the mortar was reconditioned too many times and became weak.
cultured stone cannot be used below grade in any climate with a frost. the price of natural stone veneers has come down so much, and there are so many advantages to natural stone, that it is amazing people go with dyed concrete.
@geraldcroteau I'd expect dyed concrete to stay up better than anything else, since the substrate is made of the same thing with about the same expansion characteristics. Maybe they should use ties whether it's clay, stone or concrete. Or, would more flexible mortar make them un-necessary?
Whether it froze or not, if they would have used a good bonding agent brushed on that stem wall followed by a really good thin set/bonding motor as a scratch coat there would of been a lot less chance of that happening
This is why I ALWAYS tent if I have even a thought of it getting below freezing. And if its hot outside we make sure we spray water on the scratch coat to keep the mortar from setting to fast and not keeping a good bond.
wow, what happened? Ill bet they re-tempered the mortar too much, or it was exposed to freezing, or it was very hot outside and the moisture was sapped out.
there was no wire lath or scratch coat
rat7039 1 month ago
no they said too expensive to clean. it went to the dump
MrGlynhunt 2 months ago
are you still able to use the same cultured stone that fell apart if you clean it up and properly install it the correct way???
Taxminia0311 2 months ago
Who installed the wall veneer omg what a piece of crap of a job
Taxminia0311 5 months ago
That is HACKKK!!
hackpro360 6 months ago
lol damn is that just on the stucco? or the foundation as a base with no mortar? I don't understand .....but I do know that if installed with the best products and systems that stone like this and most others can last a hundred years or more
eminence18 10 months ago
its nothing ,,they just forgot the glue
akovic 1 year ago
Thats why need a real bricky to come in and lay some real stone not that lick and stick shit!!
ryanmb23 1 year ago
@ryanmb23 I agree this is poor but it can be installed properly that will last generations
eminence18 10 months ago
that was awsome good days work on the ground in 4 seconds
gokuweed 1 year ago
DO THEY RECYCLE THEM?
JO3haNsum 2 years ago
great work!
Jrm4cam 2 years ago 2
I would say this was applied in cold weather,froze ,and lost its adhesion.
dannox12 2 years ago
There is a couple reasons why this application of stone veneer lost its adhesion. 1st the mortar used was not suffice and did not contain any bonding agent as recommended by the manufacturer. 2nd my suspicion is (judging by the powdery layer on the scratch coat) the scratch coat either again the wrong masonry product or it was exposed to sub zero temperatures or as somebody already noted, its possible the mortar was reconditioned too many times and became weak.
cl8njm 2 years ago
wath happend here?...sorry me english.
I like stones.
tambor74 2 years ago
cultured stone cannot be used below grade in any climate with a frost. the price of natural stone veneers has come down so much, and there are so many advantages to natural stone, that it is amazing people go with dyed concrete.
geraldcroteau 3 years ago
@geraldcroteau I'd expect dyed concrete to stay up better than anything else, since the substrate is made of the same thing with about the same expansion characteristics. Maybe they should use ties whether it's clay, stone or concrete. Or, would more flexible mortar make them un-necessary?
lrd9999 7 months ago
u should've let me do the job
mackly99 3 years ago
Whether it froze or not, if they would have used a good bonding agent brushed on that stem wall followed by a really good thin set/bonding motor as a scratch coat there would of been a lot less chance of that happening
bmwm321m 3 years ago
Yikes!
This is why I ALWAYS tent if I have even a thought of it getting below freezing. And if its hot outside we make sure we spray water on the scratch coat to keep the mortar from setting to fast and not keeping a good bond.
Good luck on your lawsuit guys!
CONCRETE13 3 years ago
wow, what happened? Ill bet they re-tempered the mortar too much, or it was exposed to freezing, or it was very hot outside and the moisture was sapped out.
stoneageidaho 3 years ago