Nothing against Mr. Haack, BUT... there's a noticeable lack of WOMEN who preceded him AND Kraftwerk. Laurie Anderson is probably merely the best known of them....
as amazing as this track is.. and as pioneering as Haack was.. this particular jam came out in 1982. (note the Kurtis Blow namedrop) Haackula was recorded (not released) in 1978.. 4 years later haack and russell simmons collab'd on this track. It was included on the Haackula re-release but was not part of those original 1978 sessions. So this track is POST kraftwerk-computerworld for those who are keeping score. (Although the electric lucifer album haack put out in 1970 obviously paved the way.)
This track was not part Haackula´s original tapes from 1978, was added later in 1982 (along with 32 min. Icarus) written by Bruce in collaboration with Russell Simmons and yes, this creates some confusion. It is still an excellent piece!
i think that's pushing it. i think haack should be recognized as a pioneer in electronic music... no doubt about that. but "the king of techno" which that documentary labeled him as is both incorrect and actually misleading as to what haack's music sounded like. i don't think anyone has produced anything that sounds like the stuff haack did. anyway, this particularly song was done in 1982... i love it, but i don't think it renders kraftwerk contribution to electronic music obsolete.
btw, about the date. i was also originally under the impression that it was from '78, since it was included as the last track on the bootleg of haackula. however, later i found out it was commissioned (i guess) by russell simmons of def jam in 1982. i guess it was just bundled along with haackula by the bootlegger as a bonus track or something. makes sense, since it doesn't really sound like the rest of haackula.
the term 'techno' is used to define music that is technology driven... not so much a certain asthetic sound. "Music will always change, that is how we stay in control" - Bruce Haack. So think 'King of Technology' if that helps
From what I've heard of Haack, this is the only track that is in any way similar to Kraftwerk. Even though the beat seems related to those on Computerwelt, the timeline suggests that it was Haack who was inspired by Krafwerk, and not the other way around.
Actually, I find it unlikely that Kraftwerk had even heard of Haack, when they did their seminal recodings. If you listen to the whole Kraftwerk catalogue, starting from when they were called Organisation, it is clear how their sound developes, from longhaired, freeform Krautrock improvisation, to the more strictly defined sound of the late seventies. Haacks music has no place in that particular universe.
Haack's work is another universe entirely. Where Kraftwerk's work is about logic and symmetri, Haacks work is much more eclectic, and much less diciplined. Haack can hold his own, but comparing him to Kraftwerk is doing him a disservice.
Haack was already doing electropop in the late 60s; in 1968 he appeared on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and released The Way-Out Record for Children. Kraftwerk may have influences his later stuff, but Haack was indeed in his own universe.
@partyshampoo You're a little unfair guys or too lazy to look things up. This track was created in 1982. And the song by Kraftwerk this is reminding you of (at least it does remind me of in parts: "The Robots") is from 1978. Don't get me wrong, without Haack probably no Kraftwerk but influences go back and forth as we can see here. And why not the hell.
Yeah I didn't know this was from 82, not 78, that does change things a bit, so I kind of rescind my previous comment.
I still think Bruce deserved alot more credit than he got, especially for things like being the first to use a vocoder in a pop song format (Electric To Me Turn, released when Kraftwerk was still Organisation no less). I always found Bruce's attitude that comes through in his music to be really inspiring, moreso than Kraftwerk.
@stripedhyenuh maybe that's because you're american (i'm just guessing, no offence intended)..
i think haack's work is slightly more american whilst kraftwerk has to be seen in the whole early krautrock / alternative music scene in germany that evolved in opposition to the rock n roll music that was popular back then... the motivation to make this kind of music was different.. there's a decent bbc documentary about german progressive music of that time: vimeo (dot) com / 14088099
@stripedhyenuh Kraftwerk's classics obsolete?? I don't know about all that. No need to discard one to make room for the other. There's plenty room for ALL the good sh*t in MY library. ; )
Yeah. that`s true. Furthermore it needed to be said that this was released after Kraftwerk`s "big five records", Afrika Bambaata`s "Planet Rock" and New Order`s "Blue Monday".
I like it - but it is not one of Haack`s great pioneering works.
@stripedhyenuh no. not at all. this has nothing on even the less remarkable kraftwerk tracks of that era. if this was put out ten years earlier it *might* get an honorable mention, but c'mon, this is from '82. lot's great techno pop has been made by this point.
Haack was making machines funk way before everyone else was. I just wonder how he synthesized his drums. All I know is he used lots of reel to reel machines.
WIth Russell Simmons in 1982. Haack's last track.
ColonelFain 2 months ago
Nothing against Mr. Haack, BUT... there's a noticeable lack of WOMEN who preceded him AND Kraftwerk. Laurie Anderson is probably merely the best known of them....
alovethatcantbenamed 3 months ago
@alovethatcantbenamed Also Delia Derbyshire.
ALXXMaXX 3 months ago
@alovethatcantbenamed and that has to do with what?
skinnee 1 week ago
I saw a documentary dedicated to Bruce Haack, and i started to love his music
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"This track alone pretty much renders everything Kraftwerk put out in the late 70s and early 80s obsolete"
How do you mean? This was 4 years after The Man-Machine. Bollocks.
pushiwallboy 8 months ago
j adore
tatasimon 9 months ago
Great
GrandmasterHaack 9 months ago
Great
GrandmasterHaack 9 months ago
This could be a seriously huge club hit
tompoynton 1 year ago
2011
shmezshflanj 1 year ago
fascinating. What year was this?
sonofsilence 1 year ago
@sonofsilence
Party Machine (1982)
thedancosmo 1 year ago
who the hell disliked this song?!?!?!
MotoScootMech 1 year ago
mammamia!! whatta genius, karl bartos should run and hide... :)
deejayzeta 1 year ago
"I've been attacked by a great Haack track."
jci10 1 year ago
@jci10
Ack! That pun is hack, not deserving of Haack. Are you wacked? Those who like puns have brains that lack.
Charybdys 1 year ago
Bruce Haack totally named his dick Lazarus.
geoffgurak 1 year ago 2
love it
jonkanoo81 1 year ago
This is AWESOME...
Thanks 4 share...
;D
320Vault 1 year ago
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jessermejia 1 year ago
as amazing as this track is.. and as pioneering as Haack was.. this particular jam came out in 1982. (note the Kurtis Blow namedrop) Haackula was recorded (not released) in 1978.. 4 years later haack and russell simmons collab'd on this track. It was included on the Haackula re-release but was not part of those original 1978 sessions. So this track is POST kraftwerk-computerworld for those who are keeping score. (Although the electric lucifer album haack put out in 1970 obviously paved the way.)
jessermejia 1 year ago 3
legendary artist. RIP Bruce
Burawura 1 year ago
Shades of KLAATU. YoU kNoW WhAt i MeAn?
RobZalete 1 year ago
wow 1978 for real??
miamiwax 1 year ago
This song is awesome! Please can someone post the lyrics? I've looked everywhere and I couldn't find them.
CynicallyInsaneX 1 year ago
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stripedhyenuh 1 year ago
Starting at 6:47 I was strangely inspired to listen to "your woman" by White Town.
Did anyone draw the same conclusion of similarities?
ChyaChing 1 year ago
rdj anybody?
efsq 2 years ago
durooooooo
maximocremoso 2 years ago
Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAD MAD beats
vegataxkc 2 years ago 6
Bruce Haack FTW!
rezzn8r 2 years ago
this was really great. thanks for putting it up.
guntforsure 2 years ago
This track was not part Haackula´s original tapes from 1978, was added later in 1982 (along with 32 min. Icarus) written by Bruce in collaboration with Russell Simmons and yes, this creates some confusion. It is still an excellent piece!
takenae 2 years ago
really? That is Interesting thank you for sharing. :)
jasonmathias 2 years ago 2
Wow!
fearthenoise 2 years ago
Funky, creepy, genius rolled all into one. I salute you, Bruce Haack.
marikun 2 years ago
This track is not from Haackula, it is from 1982.
Great track though.
ChrisUtzig 2 years ago
ni go tjeck on allmusic it is from haackula sorry dude
ullehat 2 years ago
It was added to the CD release a few years later, the track was not on the original release, it was made in 1982. Sorry, dude.
ChrisUtzig 2 years ago 2
Niiice. Very groovy!
Z3R0FiR3 2 years ago
Thanks for the posting. Very interesting and historically important, besides being beautiful piece.
Sigma341 2 years ago
This track alone pretty much renders everything Kraftwerk put out in the late 70s and early 80s obsolete.
stripedhyenuh 2 years ago 10
I absolutely share your opinion. This came into my mind when I first listened to this track.
partyshampoo 2 years ago
i think that's pushing it. i think haack should be recognized as a pioneer in electronic music... no doubt about that. but "the king of techno" which that documentary labeled him as is both incorrect and actually misleading as to what haack's music sounded like. i don't think anyone has produced anything that sounds like the stuff haack did. anyway, this particularly song was done in 1982... i love it, but i don't think it renders kraftwerk contribution to electronic music obsolete.
seablue 2 years ago 2
btw, about the date. i was also originally under the impression that it was from '78, since it was included as the last track on the bootleg of haackula. however, later i found out it was commissioned (i guess) by russell simmons of def jam in 1982. i guess it was just bundled along with haackula by the bootlegger as a bonus track or something. makes sense, since it doesn't really sound like the rest of haackula.
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thinkbubblefilms 2 years ago
the term 'techno' is used to define music that is technology driven... not so much a certain asthetic sound. "Music will always change, that is how we stay in control" - Bruce Haack. So think 'King of Technology' if that helps
thinkbubblefilms 2 years ago
Good points by seablue.
From what I've heard of Haack, this is the only track that is in any way similar to Kraftwerk. Even though the beat seems related to those on Computerwelt, the timeline suggests that it was Haack who was inspired by Krafwerk, and not the other way around.
genglemt 2 years ago
Actually, I find it unlikely that Kraftwerk had even heard of Haack, when they did their seminal recodings. If you listen to the whole Kraftwerk catalogue, starting from when they were called Organisation, it is clear how their sound developes, from longhaired, freeform Krautrock improvisation, to the more strictly defined sound of the late seventies. Haacks music has no place in that particular universe.
genglemt 2 years ago
Haack's work is another universe entirely. Where Kraftwerk's work is about logic and symmetri, Haacks work is much more eclectic, and much less diciplined. Haack can hold his own, but comparing him to Kraftwerk is doing him a disservice.
genglemt 2 years ago
Haack was already doing electropop in the late 60s; in 1968 he appeared on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and released The Way-Out Record for Children. Kraftwerk may have influences his later stuff, but Haack was indeed in his own universe.
BlueManIan 2 years ago 3
I assure you Haack wan't inspired by Kraftwerk. Bruce's manager used to send them Haack's records, but who knows if they listened to them.
thinkbubblefilms 2 years ago 2
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@partyshampoo You're a little unfair guys or too lazy to look things up. This track was created in 1982. And the song by Kraftwerk this is reminding you of (at least it does remind me of in parts: "The Robots") is from 1978. Don't get me wrong, without Haack probably no Kraftwerk but influences go back and forth as we can see here. And why not the hell.
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jessermejia 1 year ago
@stripedhyenuh yea good call. i never would of thought about that.
portablewalrus 1 year ago
@stripedhyenuh
Yeah I didn't know this was from 82, not 78, that does change things a bit, so I kind of rescind my previous comment.
I still think Bruce deserved alot more credit than he got, especially for things like being the first to use a vocoder in a pop song format (Electric To Me Turn, released when Kraftwerk was still Organisation no less). I always found Bruce's attitude that comes through in his music to be really inspiring, moreso than Kraftwerk.
stripedhyenuh 1 year ago
@stripedhyenuh maybe that's because you're american (i'm just guessing, no offence intended)..
i think haack's work is slightly more american whilst kraftwerk has to be seen in the whole early krautrock / alternative music scene in germany that evolved in opposition to the rock n roll music that was popular back then... the motivation to make this kind of music was different.. there's a decent bbc documentary about german progressive music of that time: vimeo (dot) com / 14088099
affeschaedel72 1 year ago
@stripedhyenuh what the hell are you two clowns talking about? tour de force mu'fuka
Majesticon 1 year ago
@stripedhyenuh Kraftwerk's classics obsolete?? I don't know about all that. No need to discard one to make room for the other. There's plenty room for ALL the good sh*t in MY library. ; )
kingjaythree 1 year ago
@kingjaythree
Yeah. that`s true. Furthermore it needed to be said that this was released after Kraftwerk`s "big five records", Afrika Bambaata`s "Planet Rock" and New Order`s "Blue Monday".
I like it - but it is not one of Haack`s great pioneering works.
vanelektrik 1 year ago
@stripedhyenuh no. not at all. this has nothing on even the less remarkable kraftwerk tracks of that era. if this was put out ten years earlier it *might* get an honorable mention, but c'mon, this is from '82. lot's great techno pop has been made by this point.
plunderpunk 11 months ago 3
@stripedhyenuh i don't quite know about that....but yeah...it is fine work.
skinnee 1 week ago
Haack was making machines funk way before everyone else was. I just wonder how he synthesized his drums. All I know is he used lots of reel to reel machines.
ElasticMinds 2 years ago
Great ,Great..i've seen the Haack's docuentary some yers ago...amazing guys!!
The KingOfTechno,i really enjoyed his documentary on this person i never heard talkin'about...!!! great!!!!
vendom00 2 years ago
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thinkbubblefilms 2 years ago
Party shampoo rocking the party machine.
I hope this song doesn't get taken down like the rest.
Teabonesteak 2 years ago
what is party shampoo
kahah2 2 years ago
party shampoo is the name of this guys channel
Teabonesteak 2 years ago
oh i see
kahah2 2 years ago