Driving on sand - Ray Mears Extreme Survival - BBC

[1000Jordan0001]

LOocker would help and what jorgedug said

[blueballs5150]

land rovers are savage as fuck

[mgd777]

do they have MUD MATS?

[JO11YGR33NGIANT]

@mgd777

Those sand mats might work...

[zaze359]

يسوي درس الله يهديه عن تطليعه السياره هذي حنا ندرسكم فيها <<<هذا اللي فالح فيه ههههه

[outskool100]

buy an kamas

[jdomes]

Why does everyone talk shit about Americans? If you are British shut the fuck up, U.S.A has been around for about 200 years and we already have more money and way more power than any other country that has been around for thousands of years. Oh and not to mention British cars suck and land rovers are shit. The only good thing to come out of Land Rover was the defender.

[clearairturbulance]

@jdomes And more food! (You're all fatties).

[jdomes]

@clearairturbulance That's only the south and what top gear U.K says.

[clearairturbulance]

@jdomes No. You're all fatties.

Also I've thought of more things for your list of things that the USA has more of than anyone else; Ignorance, Failing education systems, gun crime, gun crime IN said education system, obnoxious pigheaded pride in a country that produces cars that can't go around corners, and you're still all fatties. 

[jdomes]

@clearairturbulance True Americans are assholes most of them being in the south. The reason gun crime is on the rise is because all these dumb kids listen to this rap shit and try to imitate it. Failing education systems? We have the best schools in the world. But what you are saying is a stereotype. As if I said all British people have bad teeth. And we also have the fastest car in the world the SSC SuperAero. And the Ford GT is top three on the Topgear test track only beaten by Italians.

[clearairturbulance]

@jdomes Oh, now you're complaining that I'm using sterotypes? When you kicked off here with things like "British shut the fuck up" and "British cars suck" You're right that using sterotypes is invalid, thats why I'm coping you by using them.

I'm glad that you've learned your lesson not to be so stupid.

[jdomes]

@clearairturbulance Thanks pumpkin.

[sovereign126]

@jdomes look at rome? it rose and fell, look at the british empire, it rose and fell, look at the massive dutch empire (i emphasize MASSIVE), it rose and fell. look at the spanish, it rose and fell.

look at greece, it rose and fell, look at egypt, it rose and fell.

educate yourself asshole.

[jdomes]

@sovereign126. Why are you calling me an asshole. I say one thing about America and you are calling me an asshole, and you are calling me uneducated? What does that fact that all of these other empires fell have to do with that fact that America is still the number one power. Yes, one day America may fall, however, not anytime soon and these other empire you are naming with your awesome education tried to take over every other country and eventually destroyed themselves.

[sovereign126]

@jdomes so what is america doing?

you're an asshole because you attach opinions to everything, passing them off as fact.

and i'm calling you educated, it was an assumption based on your display of low intelligence.

i'm sticking with it dumbie.

[jdomes]

@jdomes Oh and I have Jeep that is 60% on road 40% off road. Any other teachings professor?

[roi432]

why didnt he enable diff locks? idiot

[crazyls2]

@roi432 It comes with only a center lock. Defenders don't come with independant (spelling?) front and rear locks.

[zaccazsneddon]

not to pry but if ur cut on the shin to the bone thats only bout 3mm so is all good?

[Benny1581]

@zaccazsneddon

No.... not at all. While the cut may be superficial, infection is a major risk. An impact that produces a laceration will also leave a jagged wound behind, something that isnt going to deal for quite awhile. Once it does, it's going to leave a mark. No, you wont bleed to death, but god knows what that mat touched before you.

[aformenius]

wow this guy is retarded, and know little about proper desert driving!, his example is on a simple desert track, and if you are to get stuck there... take your shovel, lay it on the ground and jump on it so it smacks you in the face!

[Katoxy]

First of all u need wider tires . When u think put get in the sand first deflate your tyres. If the car have 4x4 with blokable diferential its ok if not lets say like toyota hillux thimk about it but if u are brave enough do it . Check the sand where is white do go there , try to find a red sand as colour for drive if its posibile. if u get stuck put it on low 4x4 and easy start turning steerwheel left and right and easy forwarding . Anyway its better to have a shovel with u or a belt. 

[suspexno1]

@Katoxy dontneed wider tyres at all thethinner the better i off road and thats whta ihave experienced that thinner jeep tyres work better the big rims

[coolslaya]

hes too too good with these tips,,, first of all while on sand be very aggressive and be fast,,, and he wants you to buy these matts that will cost you,,all you have to do is jus let the air out of your tyres to about 15psi.....and done,,,, u dont have to fill them back in as long as you r offroad,, it wont damage anything

[Babysealkiller01]

I love this guy.

[MrUberAnarchist]

Shouldn't they have snowmobile looking vehicles instead of cars on sand...?

[c0dechr0nic]

ray mears is the fuckin man

[theberengersniper]

Why didn't he try locking the diff'? I realise that he wanted to demonstrate how to get the vehicle out of that situation, but surely the first step would be to lock the differentials and see if you can pull straight out that way?

[theberengersniper]

@theberengersniper Or do they not have differential locks?

[damiangt]

Go Ray!

[devilxdude]

How about sand paddles? :D

[anzac2404]

Anyone who goes bush should take a few things with them...better to have it & not need it, then to need it & remember its at home in the shed! Bar tread is ok but its not the greatest, its hell on a main road but you should use an all-rounder but more importantly, be careful when out 4wheel driving & remember to pack a few things: entrenching tool, ropes (11mm), hand winch, pulley, axe & water.

Carry that much & you should be right; great vid,love Ray Mears & Lofty Wiseman work, cheers.

[dirtTdude]

you can also unstick most stuck situations by employing the 'jack and stack' method... Jack vehicle up and stack  debris under the wheels.

[FixedByDoc]

@dirtTdude I do that most of the time with my Tocoma 4cyl. 4x4 never needed anything stronger.

[dirtTdude]

yeah, winches are for sissys ;-)

[thajeeper]

It does depend on the vehicle you're driving folks - don't agree? Take a scion or a VW Beetle out and you'll see what I mean. AND the whole darn reason why the 50s and early 60s Willys Jeeps are soo prized is because they're damn near impossible to get stuck, even at low speeds and deep sugar sand - with regular tire pressure. Reason? The design of the vehicles and the design of their tires provide full time GREAT traction and power to all the tires at all time & GREAT tires.

[jorgedug]

That s a good solution. But I would also recommend lower pressure tires, as often found in many off road types in the U.S. The tires he has are great for rocky terrain or snow, but not great for sand. Also, in case you don t have those metal sheets, you can use rocks, branches, to get out of sand.

[TINTINAD4X4]

I agree with all that you said except for the tires being bad in the sand. In fact the taller and thinner the better as your longitudal contact patch is more beneficial than you lattitudal. Imagine running up a sand dune with your feet pointing out to the sides, then imagine running with them pointing forwards. Long is better than wide. The same applies with snow, thats why snow shoes are long rather than wide. ;-)

[benlyons83]

So your telling me a 35inch tall and 12inches wide tyre @8psi is worse of then a 31x 7inch cheese cutter tyre ?

LOL...

I think you need to do a 4x4 class....

[TINTINAD4X4]

Yes I am telling you this. Why do you think the army uses tall thin tires in the desert?

I am an experienced desert driver and anybody who has good experience in the desert will tell you the same.

And as silly as it sounds, the less gripping surface on the tires the better.

There is a tire brand called sutimoto which make a tire called shahine. They are a sand specific tire which are tall and thin. The best type if you ask me.

[benlyons83]

I can see where your coming from, providing their is a harder surface bellow the softer sand/mud but otherwise I would say a deflated low level tred tyre would provide a greater foot print for it to run on....

Noetheless im speaking from the experiance I have obtained on the Austailan driving conditions... Its not to say my experiane is alid everywhere around the world.

[FixedByDoc]

@benlyons83 all the mudding shows i have been to and participated in have used narrow tires. all terrain 4wheeling use the wider tires, such as rock climbing. I am an Army trained desert driver as well and agree w/TINTINAD4X4

[benlyons83]

I choose to disagree here..

I have always been tought that surface area is the key to traction and like I stated before, a larger tyre that has been deflated will offer a greater foot print, thus giving you traction.. I have two trucks one with standard 31's and my other is sporting 35's.

They are both 4runners and have the same engine.. I drive on one of Australias sand beaches once a month and will bog my truck with 31's before my truck with 35's.

I can post a demo of this if u like

[deputybrad]

You are referring to "flotation" which is part of having good traction on certain terrains. Sometimes it's nice to have a skinnier tire that puts more pressure on a smaller area to cut through. Wider isn't always better, plus a skinnier tire will give better fuel economy on an expedition vehicle, running 35's that are over a foot wide don't do to great for rolling resistance.

[benlyons83]

No, its not that complexed.. If your tyre is hard it will penetrate the surface and create more drag causing the momentum of the truck to slow...flatten the tyres and it will float over it....

SIMPLE!

This is the only video on youtube that has comments saying other wise...

[deputybrad]

You are still describing flotation and I never said it was a bad thing either. And you ignored the reason I gave as to why most people run skinny tires on expedition vehicles. Tires over a foot wide aren't really practical in most situations but mud and even then there's an argument about skinny vs. wide. I'll go with the skinnies and keep saving money on fuel and tires, and not get stuck because they work just fine for me, maybe you need to examine your driving skills.

[benlyons83]

Right, so your saying slim rubber can get down to the harder sand and be as useful as larger deflated rubber?

I think Im with you...

Cheers

[benlyons83]

but also I just noticed the bloke inthe vid mentions he could deflate the tyres and pull straight out???

[deputybrad]

Sure he could, I'm not saying deflating tires is a bad thing. I do it sometimes, I'm just saying that you don't always need a foot wide deflated tire to run around in cause it's not always practical. If you wanna run on sand only then run some 12" tires at 8psi or whatever, if you are an expedition vehicle that runs on rocks, trails, sand, mud and street it's not always practical to be aired down on fat tires.

[benlyons83]

Yeah true... Thanks for the info.

Ben

[mollyandtiger]

Do u only use 1st low when you are rock crawling and decending steep slopes.

[wescobts]

Genius !! he's got such a good demeaner, two thumbs up.

[katarina3040]

So Land Cruiser, Defender, UAZ, Lada, etc,... its all in the driving not vehicle. Ask yourself how many times you pull out Sand Ladders+shovels, etc (risking injury) before you go through the "Hassle" of airing down before you get stuck. Anyone could drive a Honda Accord through that. Why you would drive in an area such as this with 40 pounds in the tires and a tire size mimicking a pizza cutter? This was a lesson in recovery, not reality. It was good for what it was, but not perfect.

[matt26knvs]

i feel sorry for most of euro contries cant own a gun! wth is that crap! britain cant OWN A KNIFE THAT LOCKS OPEN. like a lock back, liner lock w/e... WHAT!!! thats just rediculous. feel sorry for ya! join the NRA and vote accordingly. protect our rights as americans. ya think obama made chicago any safer with his anti gun laws? no! one of the highest crime rates in the contry. vote accordingly!!!!

[ruuman]

what are you talking about Matt? I can own a gun if I want. Air rifle is more than enough for my needs. Locking knives, 5 around the house and 2 in the truck along with a machete. No idea about Obama, will wait and see.

[luloadventure]

Well done mate!

[PaulthePirate]

nice job dude! I'm planning on racing the Baja 1000 in 2009. I'll be taking along a set of sandmats!!

[robbiejohn25]

Toyota landcruiser Cab chassis or troopcarrier (75/78/79 series and the all new VDJ79 V8 turbo) will rival any defender any where anyday anytime! Reliability for the past 40yrs! Oh what a feeling - TOYOTA. lol

[pkilchermann]

Excellent video. It does bum me out to see the animosity here between the British and Americans. We are brothers who share a language and a way of life... we need remain united and respectful. There are plenty of jerks here in America, as I'm sure there are plenty there, but always remember that good, sensible people are always in the majority.

Lots of love and peace,

-Soon to be Discovery II owner, and 'gun owning' America.

[technogearhead]

These Defenders seem like tough, simple vehicles. Why do you Brits export those crappy Range Rovers and Discoverys which constantly break down while keeping all the Defenders to your selves?

[xraycortina]

I think you just answered your own question.

[technogearhead]

well thank goodness fo the toyota land cruises. A modern defender with air conditioning and electronic trackion control.

[UBIQUEROL]

Because these days it seems only tossers buy 4x4's,

Soccer mums are one of the main culprits.

[FixedByDoc]

@UBIQUEROL

I may sound dumb but what is a TOSSER?

[snapfreak]

lets not forget to mention that America is probably the main cause of global warming!

[technogearhead]

more then 30%.

too much oil consumption

too much cattle

too many people

[xtimxfatex]

stop crying

[John031989]

First of all, you are a total dumbass. So let's pretend global warming is actually real.  You think the US pollutes more than China or Russia?

[flyin400]

Man you British people have the weirdest ways of getting un-stuck. Us Americans just jack our rigs up and put larger more aggressive tires on. Also we don't bother with week little stock Land Rovers we use good ol' American V8 Jeeps and trucks with more power then necessary and just use our right foot to get us out. Also Americans just don't get stuck. LOL. Not really

[tom9172]

Yeah but Americans are hated the world over.

[motster150]

also americans shoot each other. and u will run out of fuel and die before us brits.  let alone food

[craigles1959]

I've never shot anyone or been shot at. Where do you come up with this crap?

[Jesus45U]

Sure you get stuck.

Happens all the time.

Even for americans.

[Juanitotrucupey]

stock Land Rover Defender is the best off-road vehicle in the world...fact. V8 engine cuts out with us a splash of water.

[punkinchavland]

i agree but people take the mick whenever i say that they are!!!!!

[UBIQUEROL]

V8's kick out too much torque for offroad driving

[bill11012]

He would have never been stuck if he had LS diffs front and back and a set of BFG A/Ts all the way around.

[GPatuleiaMarques]

@bill11012 Did you mean Locking Diferencials?

[SteveTrain7]

look for stupid americans on you tube

[pastorniels]

Oh you'll get stuck, even with large wheels and a powerful engine. Only difference is, that it will be so much harder to dig you out again. But you are probably right: Yankees seldom get stuck in there 4x4's Because you never leave the tarmac.

[bapyou]

"Yanks seldom get stuck in there 4x4's Because you never leave the tarmac"

LOL. I'm a yank who actually DOES leave pavement on occasion. You are right. Most 4X4-owning Americans just drive around in their 4X4s to show off. They never EVER leave the pavement! NEVER! LOL (At least where I live.)

[VIDEOZAL]

@bapyou I drive cheap japanese AWD and do a lot of off-roading (particularly beach driving)... :)

[angelbreath500]

Northwestlondoner is right, I love Ray I really do, but when I'm in the shit I can never remember what he said to get out of it. Should stop smoking pot and retrieve my short term memory! :)

[lancelotkhan]

I've driven on Wet Sand already achieving those high gears is sometimes not possible without the vehicle becoming unstable. I had times had to switch to L4 to get going. Just a little note.

[cybershot1982]

The trick to driving in sand.

* keep in 4H Wheel hub locks on

* use 2nd and 3rd gears only. '4th is to hi a gear to keep momentum and to fast.

* slight movements of the steering wheel Left & right to open a path for the rear wheels.

*DO NOT* deflate tires in the desert to travel 200+ km tire temp increases and desert sand in hot enough. on do so when stuck and re inflate when unstuck.

[cybershot1982]

If you have to Stop

* use your gears to slow the 4x4 down to a "stop" only use the brake in an emergency, pressing the brake to stop in sand coz you want to get a drink from the back of the 4x4 if only going to increase you chances of getting stuck as it digs the wheel in to the sand and mack it harder to get moving agen.

[DaNAirsoFtFreAk]

ajk2001 is right even with an atv the same thing will happen on sand u will slide everywhere

[ajk2001]

I am sorry but that is wrong and I hope people don't belive him, I live in a place where 90% of area is dessert and this guy will get stuch and even his gadgets won't help him.

PLEASE if you are driving in soft sand deflate your tires to around 15 psi and don't drive fast unless you konw what you are doing otherwise you will skid and rollover very easy since traction is almost non-existant on sand.

Delfate-Deflate_Deflate and don't drive fast

[valinor138]

You don't know more than Ray Mears and I really wish people would stop contridicting him.

[cybershot1982]

hi didnt say any thing about driving fast, he said " you want to get in to the higher gears ' pull away in 2nd gear and get in to 3rd gear quickly ' but you have to build momentum' others wise the viachle will stop"

[cybershot1982]

any thing about driving fast, he said " you want to get in to the higher gears ' pull away in 2nd gear and get in to 3rd gear quickly ' but you have to build momentum' others wise the viachle will stop"

[JEZISDEAD]

I have done quite alot of off road driving in the desert before and sand mats may not be the best idea in some situations, but in that situation its definatly the best.I keep my Landrover in gear 3 nearly all the time.

go out and buy a set and test it yourself.

[Northwestlondoner]

Whenever I'm off doing something a bit scary, I think to myself, I hope nothing happens because I can't remember properly what Ray Mears said to do in an emergency!