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  • Anarchy isn't freedom. Proof? Anarchists provoke violence just like everyone else.

  • I suppose we, the free range slaves, could throttle back and starve tyranny of the state & parasitical classes by consciously reducing our productivity and/or consumer avarice which results in our yoke of debt.

  • Lol, Statrix.

  • Great presentation and all around great stuff, keep it up.

  • freedom fuels tyranny like life fuels death

  • @DeathBringer9000 Like it, you are a poet, do you know it?

  • Smart man, smart man, why do we not have more logical intelligent discussions like this. I am at end wits, people working but they don't know what the hell they are contributing too, it could be evil, it could be frivolous but lets give a damn about what the hell we are doing. Get that abstract thought going and really question our positions in life and then we will create those valuable relationships which make life truly worth having!!

  • free markets = absolute freedom read atlas shrugged.

  • No.

  • The wealth generated via the tech revolution was simply not distributed as it had been in previous periods of enomic growth. 2% of the population saw massive accumulations of wealth at the expense of the other 98%. I think real numbers back up this claim.

    Now, you could say that the government 's power to create rules that only benefit the wealtiest 2% was at fault. That is still in line with the statism is dead hypothesis. But the way it was stated in the video was not correct.

  • So since the industrial revolution, or assembly line, government hasn't grown far beyond even the wildest dreams of the people? What are we just supposed to ignore the "New Deal" and the other social programs and contracts instituted since the early part of last century? We're supposed to ignore the hyperinflation of the Dollar, caused by multiple economic depressions across the last century. Arguably, CAUSED by the actions of the government and established elite "ruling" class?

  • The idea that we're simply supposed to "ignore" the growth of government, as your comment suggests is fundamentally insane. This entire series of videos supposes one thing right from the get go. The 2% that you speak of are the elite "ruling" class, and to say that they are "greedy corporate fat cats" is only to dodge the truth. They ARE the heads of state, they ARE the puppeteers, and their failed policies are the focus here.

  • Who suggested we "ignore" anything? I said the assertion that "there was no financial growth via the tech revolution" is wrong. And it is. He used examples of other "revolutions" where wages went up; then stated gov't was the reason it didn't during the tech revolution. That is simply not a true statement. There was considerable gowth via the tech revolution and simultaniously gov't revenue went down - not up. So to say gov't that took the money is rediculous.

  • Corporations can't use sactioned violence to enforce moral and legal codes of conduct - which is his definition of gov't.

    Thus, by his definition, the gov't is NOT the same thing as a greedy capitalist.

    It's not me "ignoring" anything. It's his conclusion that ignores the actual data. Capitalists, not the gov't took the wealth from the tech revolution.

    You can say they are in the same club - to which I would agree - but that's not how this guy defines gov't.

  • The video states the wealth of the tech revolutiuon wasn't seen by the average worker because of inevitable gov't expansion. But there was MASSIVE wealth generated.

    Government tax rates were considerably lower than they have been during previous times when wages increased. So the "growth of size and power of gov't " was not the cause of stagnant wages. It's a weak cause and effect argument.

  • I really liked the content against the state etc but I cringed every time you said "freedom = wealth = tyranny" ... ouch ... probably could have used better wording as an advocate for free markets... 8|

  • Yea, of course he was talking about free-range so called freedom

  • 16 Amendment was never ratify, Corporations were suppose to pay taxes from their profits & surplus, not from individuals from labor & wages. Article 1, section 8 does not allow the gov. to run our health care system

  • The Necessary and Proper Clause sadly gives Congress the power to do nearly anything.

  • Phew! The survivor inside me begs for the cycle of production -> freedoms -> tyranny to be broken by a determined non-acceptance of the freedoms.

    It's all precious in these vids.

  • Good stuff, dude.

  • thanks, wait for the next one...

  • but on some level, there has to be some order. We all can't just be out in montana living off the land. (montana or whereever you may be). You need stuff to live off the land, parts for your generator, maybe some medicine. Stuff needs to get shipped from overseas from time to time.

    I don't have any answers, dood, just rambling. I like your stuff, it makes sense for the most part. Nothing I can use for my new religion trying to start here ;)

  • You might want to check out Practical Anarchy, available for free at my website...

  • I may...but for there to be a system of trade/barter there has to be some regulating authority on some things. Man's inherently selfish nature will ultimately mess up any system. If everyone worked in fair and equitable ways, no problems--but not everyone does.

    That's the main hang up. One world government or no government in the world. neither really works. do you want satellite technology? there's going to have to be some cooperation somewhere there, too.

    Or are we going Amish?

  • Check out the playlists:

    For an Emergent Governance:(covers stateless societies throughout history.)

    /view_play_list?p=B26257466F7D­506F

    Issues in a stateless society:

    view_play_list?p=B777F4BC7B0DB­CCC

    Stateless law:

    view_play_list?p=FFBE41B2DAB0C­BC3

    Some people will people won't play by the rules, that's a constant; but now the rules allow for huge abuse, and rely on a system of extortion: taxes. I'd rather have a governance from free human interaction than top-down monopolistic decrees.

  • ITS ALL ABOUT "HOW" ITS MANAGED there is no other way is a pretense. They are selling government products at the end of a barrel of a gun.

  • if this is the cycle of societies run through a state then what is the cycle of stateless societies? freedom = wealth = ?????

    also, we (a friend and I) came to the conclusion that in a stateless society gangs would inevitably try and force control eventually turning into governments. how can this be prevented?

  • You might want to check out my free books on anarchy, available on my web site... :)

  • I downloaded them several months back, just have a long list of other books to power through first.

    keep up what you do,

    cody

  • Thank you!~

    I have been saying the same thing about the cycle of empires for a while.

    though I do wish you'd use "leads to" rather then "equals" ... sorry to be pedantic -- math nerd. =)

  • Since our birth certificate creates a trust that is traded on the stock market I suppose it can be explained simply as breeding stock on a slave market.

    Concentration Camp Earth. Drink your fluoride, eat your aspartame, take your mercury vaccines, take all the anti-depressant fluorines, MSG in most everything, Mercury in the high fructose corn syrup, Nutrient deficient GMO produce, cloned meats, Aluminum neuro toxins from tin cans, Aircraft aerosol spraying, depleted uranium, genocide and so on

  • There's nothing wrong with cloned meats (it may actually save the planet, since cloned meat doesn't eat our food and doesn't fart)... but yeah pretty much everything else is bad for you. Fuck...

  • I'm with those others who say there is a third choice, besides 'violent monopoly' or 'volunteerism'. This is a protectorate. Thec constutution had major flaws and contradictions, which ended up being the loop-holes of statist growth. The 'chains' of the constitution were only as strong as their weakest link(s), and this link was derived due to philisophical compromises to principles of liberty. All to avoid an even worse contract being rushed through the 2nd Continental Congress. by Hamilton.

  • When you can control appetite, you have mastered the KING of all the senses & therefore your *Self*

    Without this Mastery, nothing else is possible.

    Eating less & training the Body to be subject to the more noble powers & in line with natural law prepares one for a proper avoidance of the *Meat Eaters*....who are able to BURST speed & agression but NOT keep it up for too long as VEGAN Animals are able to do.

    That is why *They* feed upon either very young, very aged, or sick & infirm.

  • Very good point, i'll try to keep that in mind. I end up within the confines of a chocolate box once too often. you are correct, self-control is a necessary mastery and should be embraced. Sucks that Statism favors just the opposite.

  • BTW, I was an early *Republic of Texas* Supporter as well as a founding participant of *Citizens for Legal Reform*. When Bo Grits Appeared @ meetings after recovering from attempted Suicide & said that it was over, that *they* already had control & to get our *Papers* in order Cuz *we* were worth more @ libertie rather than in Jail some where for lack of papers. I listened to wisdom. I retreated back into the *System*. I await deliverance as only a slave in Egypt can. I am not my own saviour.

  • Casmige -yes you are SAVIOUR-SELF

    The kingdom is with you, be you perfect! Know ye not, ye are Gods?

    we must reclaim our power

    the bottom of the pyramid has been asleep and propping up the beast, I RISE IN FIRE!

  • Re:-lawyerjudgesdestroy (Don't CAPS me Brah!!)

    WHOA Cowboy, Keep the Spandex & the Spurz off my back!!

    Actually, Vegetarian Food is MORE Expensive (Check Avocados on *SALE* are more per Pound than Meat or processed foods).

    Poor as Hell?? Doubt that. No one in America is poor. it's a matter of adjusting lifestyle.

    On eBay @ 3.00USD Search for "LONG TERM FOOD STORAGE - PANTRY PREPAREDNESS SURVIVAL" +

    "HOW MUCH / HOW LONG / MRE RECIPES"

    RIOTS? of what? Apathy?

    I'm down to eating 1x per day.

  • =OoO=

    Re:-lawyerjudgesdestroy & "Twice as much Veggies"

    Ok...ok, We have to stop meating like this.

    I would say Technically YES.

    I'm vegan, I tell corny jokes, not cheesy ones.

    I'm not vegetarian because I love animals, I'm vegetarian because I don't like vegetables.

    Prefaced with a H T T P : // megetables revirginizer com (Take out spaces & input Dots of course).

    =OoO=

  • =OoO=

    Re:-lawyerjudgesdestroy

    "does a vegan vegetarian eat twice as much veggies?"

    I guess that is a bit obnoxiously if not pettifoggingly loquitiously ubiquitously boorish & redundant?

    I am but a blooter, Please forgive.

    I still Rule them Veggies with an Iron FIST, I tell you.

    No Veggie tales escape the perimeters....this I can vociferously & Cruciferously assure you. Taxonomically Speaking, I am utterly dependent upon their labours & output.

    Cheers for the challenge.

    =OoO=

  • Casmige -yes we must envison light, love, peace,

    this is a polarity universe, so we must balance and tend to all dimesnions of our existence

    Spirit, Mind & Body

    I love to listen to Stef he is a great thinker & teacher,

    Thanks Stef!

    looks like Karl Marx was right

  • Societies can never be free because societies breed leadership.

    Only individuals are free.

    The sad truth is that unless you work for yourself without greed, you will never be free.

    Another sad truth is that in many cases you will have to enslave others to do it.

    Please forward all coments to:

    zeromessiah,blogspot,com

  • greed is the common denominator in the fall of all the empires. teh few want to control/tax/oppress the many and the cycle repeats itself. unitl man can rise above this selfish desire(paradigm shift in spirituality) this cycle is doomed to continue repeating. just as the solar systems spins around the galaxy we belong to.

  • Damn..I thought the Title said Satanism...

    I listened intently tho, anyways.

    I'm a Vegan Vegetarian.

    I just got a rather shock of an realization O_o

    My Garden is nothing other than a concentration Camp in which I have enslaved plants & rob them of their Fruits (VegetativeTaxation).

    I am a Fruit Fascist!!

    Greed will never do away with slavery in any fashion.

    Greed will never allow real money Nor do away with *Credit*.

    Too much is made by too few for this to be otherwise.

    Cheers for the Vid !

  • Casmige = please see "Codex Alimentarius"

  • hahaha sharazel got owned

  • "Religions, in and of themselves, are completely consistent with free markets"

    Please put the crack pipe down. I can't believe Stefan even bothered to respond your idiotic statement.

  • Religions, in and of themselves, are completely consistent with free markets. One's beliefs about the nature of the world and how one ought to act do not automatically result in tyranny, even if those beliefs include an originating intelligence. Bigot.

  • Actually, superstitions survive because adults lie to and frighten helpless and dependent children. Religions are the scar tissue of such abuse.

  • Look, I was raised by an atheist, but I have come to believe there is a God. Not the Christian God, mind you, or one from any other major religion, but a God nonetheless. I'm kinda formulating my own religion as I go. I am persuaded in part by Paley, and unimpressed by Hume. So no, religion, or at least theism, is not necessarily derived from superstition and emotional scarring. Bigot.

  • Of course, if you are raised decently, you would not be calling me a bigot twice without providing any rational arguments whatsoever, as I have done in a series of free videos and books.

  • I'm happy at least someone or few people know the truth and expose it...

    But most people on this planet are stupid and evil (including the Elite ("farmers") and their slaves) so there is really no solution.

    But I'm happy to be able to found those videos and info... LOL, "certain liberties are granted"

  • Ha - I keep thinking of Animal Farm with your analogies. Well done!

  • so what do you suppose we replace statism with? what is your replacement of goverment???

  • This is the big question.

    Can the criminals be routed out without taking everything down with it? I personally believe a world LEADERSHIP could work, but this is pretty optimistic. Where would we find such a real leader. Does he/she exist? Whether it's one or more leaders it could just lead to tyranny again.

    The first step I believe is teaching logic to our children. All of them, systematically. Information is useless if you can't use it.

    Always back to the basics when led astray.

  • This is actually pretty profound, the last three sentences I mean. Never gonna happen in state provided education though. Just imagine all the voices screaming of "godlessnes" and "burdening the children" with obsolete, useless, and immoral teachings...

  • AMAZING PRESENTATION. The concept of expalining how we participate in our own enslavement is enlightening. We seriously need to put an end to states and their taxation. WE CAN LIVE WIOTHOUT THESE EVIL CORRUPT STATES. Well done keep up these important works of truth and wisdom.

  • I appreciate your passion, good sir. Speaking loud and clear on issues that affect the human race. I wish that I had smoked a little bit more of that sticky icky for the full effect however.

  • It is ridiculous to pay for anything on a planet you were born on. Money is a perverted concept. Needs should be addressed through co-operation. Because we are a mix of STS and STO, the STS take over control and treat the rest as their herd. That is why co-operation cannot work on our planet. What must and will happen is to separate the STS and STO and the undecideds. All the problems we experience on our planet do not occur where the people are all STO.

  • rollsthepaul...

    Your comment is logically inconsistant and, while well intentioned, is dangerously irrational. Those you choose to be the designated separators will in turn become the enslavers.

    Read some Rand

  • Rand is correct for a world where STS are the controlling force. I choose God to be the seperater, with the STO remaining on Earth and the STS sent to a prison planet. The world we live in is a matrix and is not anywhere near normal for the universe. The prison that we call our world will be ended soon. Nothing in this matrix is real, including schemes to cope with an impossibly vicious and cruel world bent on maintaining pain and suffering. The only solution is to tear down the matrix and soon.

  • the government is basically a gang.

  • As an IT professional ...

    Actually, he is incorrect, ref.question @8:37:

    The reason wage has not increased with IT revolution is because, (A), it has, in part, but, more importantly (B), the IT revolution is NOT YET DONE! There are HUGE MASSIVE UNILATERAL inefficiencies and redundancies, and although most of you who are not IT professionals, like I am, may see relatively superficial advancements, and think IT is mature, it AINT, and THAT is the problem that has crippled our economy.

  • I too am an IT pro, but while I agree that IT is not yet mature, I do not see how you come to the conclusion that IT is why our economy is in ruins. I leave the blame on the door of collectivism and it's Federal Reserve system.

  • statless sounds good to me. i hate government idiots taking my money to waste on shit

  • Why does freedom fuel tyranny? I say it's because currency is the medium for which tyranny is freely practiced.

  • Now I thought Caligula had a lot to do with Rome going bankrupt. Have you read or seen anything on the last Roman Emperors?

  • I believe caligula was the 3rd emprorer of rome.

  • And?

  • What's the point if death is the end of self-awareness, for yourself and your descendents? Many find the idea of the end of self-awareness quite comforting. So the point of this philosophical exercise is making the most of the short time we have for ourselves and our children? I suppose that's "brave". But what if our assumption is wrong? What if death is not the end? We may be able to study the experience of empires, but how many of us can really confirm what is on the other side of death?

  • ...morticians?

  • And what does the mortician have to say about justice? There's a google search.

  • This is basically Hoppe's imperialist paradox of liberalism.

  • Wow, how impressive...I'm so impressed. You're so cool, please enlighten us all about what THIS REALLY IS! Moron.

  • "By the time I got off the plane I could speak fluent Ewok"

  • even if it were possible to somehow gradually infiltrate and in time replace corrupt and destructive governments with honest people who'd do only all the good and right things, and manage not to be corrupted by power, this might seem like magically turning a malignoma into some more benign tumor; it begs the question what a healthy organism wants such a tumor for at all. and if it's the whole body that's infested and diseased, what could a 'healthy tumor' do to heal it?

  • bingo!

  • I keep watching you and you keep making me want your vision. You seem to be a one man movement, one lone voice. Surely I am missing something because you act as if you have so much support!! Now I am curious about your free books, so I will have to go read them. Because I am getting more and more frustrated with wishing these people would go away, trying to get them out with voting, rallies, meetups, sign waving, organizing, spreading the word, watching the corruption, emailing. U R Hope.

  • Thank you, Stef!!!

  • Nice work, Stef. 5*

  • Also, google "Zeitgeist: Addendum". You can find it on video google. It explains the whole federal reserve scam. Like I said, it's all by design.

  • He has a review of the movie on his page btw.

  • Ive seen something on the history channel saying he spent tremedous amounts of money on public works projects and Art across the empire. According to the program this is one of the reasons they went broke, they went on a spending spree, kind of like what our politicians in America are doing now.

  • America was infiltrated by secret societies then systematically undermined economically, politically and socially. The decline of American and it's empire is actually a planned and contrived event. Go onto google video and listen to "J F Kennedy secret society speech" if you don't believe me about the secret society speech. This speech is known as "the speech that got him killed".

  • Shit, I just woke up...

    Go onto google video and listen to "J F Kennedys secret society speech", if you don't believe me about the secret societies and their involvement in political affairs. This speech is known as "the speech that got him killed".

  • You are such an amateur.

  • Do you know what? I don't give a fuck.

  • Sorry, it just brings back bad memories from when I was a noob. Honestly, I actually listened to that speech ~1.5 years ago, when I was still into conspiracy theories, G. Edward Griffin, etc.

    I'll tell you that the "secret societies" path goes nowhere. If I could give advice to myself 1.5 years ago, I would say to forget the conspiracies and learn economics. Go to Mises(dot)org and read Mises and Rothbard. Good luck.

  • I don't get it though..Doesn't Kennedy's speech turn it into conspiracy fact? And this was 45 odd years ago - imagine the stranglehold 'they' have now, especially considering it was such a "monolithic conspiracy" back then. Look at the world around you, govs. constantly lying, taking countries into "100 year wars", westerners countries losing their freedoms by the day. If economies are controlled and economic events contrived, then surely facing up to the facts of a conspiracy become imperative.

  • Even government appeasers like Glen Beck are talking about this stuff.

    /watch?v=wt2Mq1qwoE0

    Economics isn't the answer, as far as I'm concerned.

  • (sorry, it was CAIN who was the farmer, of course)

  • (btw. abel was the farmer.)

  • indeed. a 'free range cattle ranch.'

    that became obvious to me when i saw the power mafia pun with word etymology to openly and cynically mock their 'livestock'.

  • it was by no means a coincidence that there was this brahmin 'maverick' and son-of-a-gun (cain - cf. ancient arabic qyn - 'metal smith'; gaelic mccain = mac + cathan, 'warrior', from cath, 'battle') selected to run for president and to then cede the post to abel, the 'herdsman.' (abel - cf. arabic ibil, 'camel herder'; also: hebr. hebel, 'elusive, vain'. but wait - who killed who? maybe the etymology of obama II could clear this up.)

  • The casual observer might get the wrong impression about escaping the cycle without further explanation, but Stef does direct people to view other works which answer for this. As to DionysusAlS's point on 'change in consciousness', we are not a collective, of course. Some people are ready to embrace a free society now but are held up by those who believe and/or see greater profit from the status quo. So-called authority will suppress activity which they perceive as a threat to their way of life.

  • The FRB revolution is the destructive one.

  • The main problem as I see it is that the "Establishment" we have created for ourselves is a mirror and extension of our nature and is fashioned in our own image. As within, so without. So unless we can change our consciousness so that it resonates with freedom, we won't ever experience it in consensus reality. As for what that will take, I don't really know. But I think Stef is a good place to start.

  • Those bastards!

  • I agree, but only or atleast the majority of people only think of themselves. Wealth power greed these character traits over-power most others,so till people start to open their eyes and realize what should b important nothing will ever change. Or when it does it might b too late.

  • If freedom = wealth = war

    then if we create an absolutely free society, the most free society ever created, then there should be the most wealth ever created, thus the most war; according to that formula. And, if freedom creates tyranny then how can one prevent tyranny from coming about in the most free of all societies? Wouldnt the more freedom also mean the more likely to create tyranny since tyranny is given birth by freedom? Just need some clarification.

  • I believe his "equation" was limited to the current statist modality. In a truly free and voluntary society, freedom = freedom and wealth = wealth.

  • Well thats the funny part because I thought the same thing. Then I thought, Wait a minute, Stef is a pretty smart guy and couldnt mean that. If we live in a truly free society there is nothing stopping people getting together and deciding to form a state (tyranny) Thus freedom = wealth = war.

  • But, if the free society stopped people from forming their own states, and even possibility taking over the free society, then it would try and place restrictions (most likely enforced by force) on people living in a free society, therefore it wont be free. So either freedom = wealth= war is fallacious, or there cannot be a true free society. Thats the confusion.

  • Don't think people will be "stopped" from forming their own states. It will be equivalent to people committing mass suicide, except this time it will be slow. Understand that a free society will be established through complete voluntary choice of people to be free and stateless. Spreading the word, stimulating the brain is the key.

  • The title of the video, and a few dozen references within it, is about 'statism.'

  • I think a truely free and stateless society would be much stronger than any coercive state that would develop from it.

  • Horray, there is some hope.

  • You can do 16:9 now Stef, let's get WIDE! :)

  • Yeah, the old story, what was first the chicken or the egg, right?

    Well, let's put it this way, without the previous Empires, would we now be able to watch this video on the Internet?

    I mean, its obvious the benefits people gain have in their core struggles, battles and exploitation.

    Its a true food chain, that sometimes escapes our thoughts.

    In a world where all seems to be a fair game, how would you see progress without cooking the nice flavoured chickens?

    Oh, man, poor chickens...

  • I say if we were able to make such progress within a coercive state, imagine what we could do without one!

  • that is the Big Question, that we must imagine about, yes; I imagine about those sensible religious folks that were worshiping the beauty of Nature, respecting the Earth, etc, that ended up slaughtered, and their civilisations made dissapeared shortly.

    Think about the Mayan, American Indians (most tribes), you name it unnumbered others as such. When someone else is worshiping the Devils, while carrying the Bible or the Coran or whatever (doing the exact opposite) do those stand a chance?

  • I don't think the Mayans and American Indians were necessarily peace-loving or moral people. There were a lot of sacrificing going on (see video iU9QhhzNfTY ).

    A state can't beat a state. But a free society would absolutely crush any state trying to take it over, Stefan has made a couple theories on how it could work, ie. targetting the leader of that state directly, offering money and asylyum for surrender of enemy troops, etc.

  • My examples weren't perhaps the best to emphasize the issue, indeed, those Mayans etc weren't peace-loving and moral as you say, but the "little people", or the chickens, if you wish, are always those that will get decapitated in the end. Provided the resources are randomly spreaded out in the world, these theories are limited to various factors.

    As you say, very true, those areas that had gold mines could not had been conquered because they payed spies/leaders with gold(in more recent times).

  • Ah but the goose that lays the golden eggs is the free market! A free society would be much more prosperous than any coercive society! Free individuals would probably spend more for their defense in the absence of a national army, so again, no traditional coercive society would be a match for a fress society.

  • i think that all self denial i.e. worship is insane and destructive.

  • Bravo! The whole Statism is Dead series is great, but I can't help but to be a bit pessimistic in thinking that it won't be in my lifetime, that it might be a false hope. The way things are now, it's really hard to see a tangible shift toward a turly free, rational society, and I wonder how bad it's going to get before we're there. But, I suppose I'll take any hope in society I can get. Thanks for your input, man!

  • Very powerful! I love how you explain your concepts and keep it nice and simple...yet enlightening.

    I'll definately buy some (or all) of your books sometime. Your podcasts and youtube videos have really changed my entire perspective on life: politically, economically, philosophically.

  • Stef in another vid can you go into more detail about the roman and other empires that toppled and what caused it. If it was just what you said in this vid plz ignore.

    Awesome vid as always Stef.

  • War is peace

    Freedom is slavery <------

    Ignorance is strength

  • Nobody calls me "chicken"!

  • haha! bwak!

  • I would give everything for a slave free society. I would WORK knowing it benefiting me and my fellow human beings. I'd be MUCH more motivated then the 9to5 hourly consumer wage that goes nowhere except to the profits of the elites who drive by in cars I could never afford. I have no idols. I've had enough of this plastic civilization.

  • Awesome video, I love this series.

  • thank you stef

  • Great stuff as always from the Stefmeister.

  • Loved it!

  • thank you, sir!

  • Under Stefbot's thesis, a minimium wage law really is a "minimium productivity law".

  • WOOT

  • love your vids my man

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