@jocke706 Varian has had some REALLY bad experiences with orcs (I suggest you read up on his lore) since he was a kid and Garrosh doesn't exactly encourage a change of heart. If you want to see something encouraging I recommend watching the Deathbringer Saurfang outro for Alliance players
Varian isn't too happy being near the horde, and Garrosh is just your stereotypical WC lore orc... While they have similarities, Varian can control himself much better, he doesn't need someone keeping him off others like Garrosh needs Thrall.
I can understand why Varian hates the horde so much, kept as a gladiator slave owned by a horde its obvious he will hate the horde after that but Garrosh really he just hates the alliance cuz he thinks they r weak really that is not a good enough reason to hate
Varian isnt so bad man...if his father wasnt assassinated by a horde assassin,and if his home city stormwind wasnt destroyed by the horde in the 1st war,and that the person who saved his life(Sir Anduin Lothar) was killed by the warchieft of the horde,and also that he was taken by the horde to be a slave and a gladiator..After all that he still gave the new horde a Chance...and then Pultress Happen so tat was the last straw for him.
ya but do you honestly think he believes that? no way he sees them all as having the potentiel to be evil and attack his people especialyy becasue of Garrosh Hellscream and how close heis to thrall and how he hates the alliance
Seriously, I want Velen to be the leader of the Alliance now, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea, sure he's new to the scene, but he's proven to be a good leader in BC. He's been since the Draenei were Eredar back in Argus, he's probably the oldest (except for Tyrande) and definitely wisest of all the Alliance leaders. Him and Thrall would probably get along extremely fine! Then Alliance an Horde work better together and Saurfang Cleaves Sargeras in the face, BOOM! Game over.
I would happily take anybody else as leader of the Alliance. Tyrande, Magni, Gelbin, Velen (fucking Velen would be PERFECT!!!). Hell, I would even take Hogger as leader. Everytime Varian opens his time wasting mouth I want to punch him in the face and take Lothar's belt from him. Fuck it, why not make his kid the king again? That was good times...
After so many examples of the Horde killing alliance soldiers when the oppotunity shows has proven to me that the Alliance are the greater good and before Varian was here, no one did anything about it - now the Lion King has returned and he shall bring the misdeeds of the Horde to justice.
And what excatly makes Varian an asshole? Because he is critical towards the Horde? You have absolutly no arguments to start throwing trash at him
Garrosh is worse man...Varian had history of why he hates the horde...If u read in wowwiki...Varian did give the horde a chance when he became King..then Pultress happen
@Unit06JAW Do you even know anything about Vairan Wrynn?
There are many examples of the new horde´s cruelty - Broken front is a good example - Varian Wrynn seems to be the only realising that the Horde will seize every oppotunity to slaugther Alliance soldiers, no matter the cost
You do realise that broken front went both ways?:p
And no i disagree the horde will not seize every opportunity to slaugher alliance soldiers. Garrosh will but the horde wont.
Big proplemo is the night elves! I don't think there can be much peace if any between the elves and the orcs. Certainly not with Garrosh in charge. By the looks of things in Cata horde well and truley spanks elven butt throwing them back to the very northern part of darkshore.
Both ways? You sir, should check on your lore before trying to prove something that is a lie.
The alliance forces were assaulting an undead force when a group of Horde soldiers discovered them.
The Horde force desided to backstep the alliance from behind while they were busy fighting the undead.
This is an example of the mentality of the orcs. INstead of joining the Alliance against the greater evil, they choosed to kill them and allow the undead force to live.
@roburboots That sounded like a very articulate argument^^
I am not "bitching" i am but stating the facts. The solve reason why the war started in the first case was because 1. "Horde continued to lumber in Ashenvale, giving a damn about the night elves" 2. "The dwarven expedition were suddenly attacked and slaugthered by Frostwolves" and 3. That the humans who own Arathi Basin (Leauge of Arathor, Stromgaurde) met the Forsaken there, who apperently said that this was their land now.
@Festabenkaj Congratz you know that orcs can cut trees. Nobody gives a shit whether the Alliance got shat on by the Horde. And nobody gives a shit whether the Orcs were in interment camps in Durnholde. Aiite? So just crawl back into your mother's vagina along with your "facts"
@roburboots "Both have their ups and downs" here you state that my point of view is wrong. and since you responded to my month old comment which was about who to blame, you invovle yourself into a lore debate. Sometimes it is wise to think before responding to a comment.
And you sir, i´d advise you to use a common language, pehaps you shoulder consider to " crawl back into your mother's vagina " since clearly is not mature enough to comment on youtube
@roburboots Actully you responded to a month-old comment which was about who to blame, and by saying "Both have their ups and downs" you involve yourself into a lore debate. Sometimes it is wise to think before commenting.
As for your language, clearly you sir should consider to " crawl back into your mother's vagina" since you clearly is not mature enough to comment on youtube.
Hate between the orcs and elves is understandable Orcs were the slaves for the burning legion. Elves hate the legion. They hated orcs blindly. This drove the orcs to kill that druid god dude. After this negotiation seems unlikely. Varian has every right to hate the horde. Garrosh has little right to hate the alliance! Unless bliz soon adds something to strengthen his past. Varian Wrynn is just paranoid since his imprisonment. in ICC he seems to be letting go of some paranoia (Saurfang)
You know that i could even solo Garrosh there would be no opponent for Varian but Varian vs. Thrall would be an interesting fight also as Jaina kicking garroshes ass
Indeed, this is the concept they call a "joke" I believe. I was attempting to make one, it seems i've failed. I'll integrate myself back into human society one day. Just you watch!
Wow. there are those who know a shit ton of lore and can "teach it to anyone you asks" but still its a game Derek dude calm down, It's not real and still a fantasy people enjoy wondering and watching things that inspire people to imagine "what would the world be like if it was a different race"
yeah yeah I know your going to either mock me for how much I typed or insult me or come up with retorts that will try to twist my words and such, but I have a lot to say, and if your mature you should respect my beliefs, like I respect yours even if I don't disagree with them much of the time.
like I said I try to understand your point of view, you shuold try to understand mine and the Alliance point of View as much as you might hate to do so.
and you your just an antagonistic fool, and your not even worthy of my time aside from this message. and everyone you will say I shall dismiss, so don't even bother.
but just remember this is a story, thier personalities might change, and you cannot predict the future as much as you think you can, now I am pure Alliance all the way, but for all that the horde have done, I still don;'t wish your the deaths of your entire race, nor thier enslavement, infact things were going great untill events set us back to old hatreds. killing the leaders would only add fuel to the fire. and the death of all.
honestly what the hell is wrong with you people? why is it so pleasureable to see people who try to defend thier people from death instead of just antagonizing all the time and remarkably holding back untill the very end. why is it so cool to kill off humanity? I just don't get it. do you really hate your own speices that much that you get a kick out of wishing its extinction in a video game? and then mocking anyone and anything who wishes otherwise or tries to stop such a thing?
Wow. Garrosh is actually a bigger jerk than Varian, as Varian can actually control his temper. Thrall and Jaina are awesome though...all they want to do is keep the peace. (Hopes Garrosh and Varian will kill each other)
@ShadowWithinTheDark it whould b cool if garosh and varian in the last expanshion were in like this final climactic battle im thinking something 2 do with a volcano and they both whent doun fighting eachother and thrall and jiana led azeroth in2 a new age of peace bettween the alliance and horde but i know it proly wont ever happenQQ
@florenmage No it ownt it would be epic when Malfurion lead the Guardians of Nodrassil to victory against ragnaros Thrall and the earthen ring along with the dragons managed to destroy Deathwing but his human form to rise up and varian and garrosh take him down as a team.That would be epic.
Yep, the kid. I'm fairly sure they will kill him off for the simple reason that he's to perfect a king, he'd be one able to stop the war between alliance and horde for good. And they don't want that.
Garrosh has more chance of death than varian does, he has a better backstory, Garrosh is just there to create conflict he came out of nowhere with very little backround story.
and why should someone who is trying to destroy those who wish his people harm a crime? all the alliance has done ever since its founding is to safeguard its own people, the only reason they are more warlike now is because of generations of war and treachery, against the horde for the most part.
the Alliance were for the most part leaving the horde alone, you don't bother us, we don't bother you, and while there were extreamnists on both sides like the BG factions, both factions wanted peace, then the whole wraithgate happens, which to alliance eyes after generations of conflict and still lack of trust to the horde beleive that the horde betrayed the pact and that any claims otherwise were propaganda, then the UC event happens and all the shit that went down there.
which to the alliance is proof that the horde haven't changed, even if we all know that the Horde overall didin't know about the shit down there. Alliance think that thrall and the rest of the horde know everything about the other's actions. so they thought that thrall knows about the UC shit. and frankly you would have to be messed up in the head to not freak out from seeing the shit in the UC if you were in thier shoes, its easy to look the other way but just try to think like they have.
I have put myself into your sides shoes and I have tried and still try to understand the why of thier actions and the reasons for it. but really now you cannot just ignore the facts that the Alliance had just cause to revert to a warlike stance after all the recent events after generations of conflict, its a self-defence reaction, it would be like if a pitbull tired to bite your balls off, you would either want the dog dead, or at least away from you.
and killing thier leaders for only wishing to keep thier people safe isn't going to solve much and would only validate the alliance stance even more. Garrosh wants conquest, and a compleate take over, Varian at first wanted peace to safeguard his people albet reluctently because of his past and his race, and yet after all the shit that happend recently he feels that to truely save his people he has to strike his enemy first before they deliver the killing blow.
why when ur turn ur xp bar of u dont get no honor or u cant enter a bg there arent enough people who make twinks put us with the otheres thats what the dumbest thing they ever did tryiong to rush us al to 80 we dont wanna all be 80
Outland is the remainings of Draenor the homeworld of both Draenei and Orcs
Ner'zhul aka Lich King today by then just an orc shaman he opened portals to Azeroth to do Kill'Jaeden's bidding but he is unsuccessful and his physical body get's destroyed his soul is encased in the Icecrown (literally)not the land (the helm of LK)
So he tryed to open portals and to use Wow slang they FAILED and destroyed Draenor and all what remains from it now it's just Outland
Argus was the original homeworld of the eredar (eg Archimonde ,KillJaeden,Velen are eredar NOT draenei so they look similar but they are not the same !!!!!!)
lol you know whats funny they always present King varyan and jaina but they dont show the king of ironforge or king of the gnomes or exodar or darnassus lol
well rumours are that there going to be goblins as a new horde race and worgen for a alliance race..... don't hold me to that its only a rumour after all.
lol i was thinking if there will be a new expansion shall there be a new race??lol like naga or centaur or sumthing else. mabye in the new expansion u can go to the draenai home world (if it still exist)
uhm outland is NOT the draenei homeworld they came from a planet called Argus. the draeneis came to outland because Sargeras turned had taken over theyre world and turned most of the draenei population in demons.
Thats prety much likely because almost every Horde race has his own splinter faction. Still I think Thrall is way too popular and awsome to die any day soon. I think that when the LK is dead (dead complete after all he is alredy half dead XD) Sylvanas will have no more use for the Horde so I think she is the most likely to betray Thrall.
thats bs...sylvanas dint join the horde to beat the lich king..just as a mean to survive...and why would she betray the horde??to be left alone...lol no way
And this coment form excatly where come from?.. Any way I will answer it:
Why would she betray the horde you ask? Just ask any Forsken NPC (Answer: Death to the living).
She dosent care about the Horde at all that is implied again and again in her character (and her whole faction for that matter). For her the Horde are just a toll to a means and its perfectly explained that the Forsaken dosent welcome the living (even they suposed allies) in the Horde players guide.
lol did i say she CARES??abouht the horde?i sed she cares abouht survining in the world...tahts why she wont be betraying anyone anytime soon...unless she finds some other aliance...
Of course she needs her allies to survive at any time soon (enogh to say that Blizz cant put out 1 race out of the game and just erase all the characters of said race) but I am talking about the long run.
But lorewise after Arthas is defeted she will have 1 less reason to allie herself with the Horde. That is another reason for Blizzard to fill Undercity with Kron Kron Guards instead of the clasic Abominations since it helps explain why she dosent betray the Horde on the open.
I despise Varian with a passion. Any alliance idiot who can't see him for what he is, is just the same as an idiot who can't see Garrosh for what he is.
Jaina is a hero of the last great war, and stood together with Thrall, so she knows more then anyone the honor the horde represent in times of war. But Varian is still fusing over events of his past, unable to see the greater picture like an ill-breed child.
the hellscream family is just so badass it amazes me. Grom was the all time best warcraft character ever, blizzard was fuckin dumb to kill him. but o wait! his badass son is here. garrosh fuckin pwnz shit up
Varian Wrynn is not a simple slave, he's the King of Stormwind, and have been trained as such since his youth, first by his father King Llane, and later by heroes of the Alliance as Lord Anduin Lothar, Muradin Bronzebeard and King Terenas Menethil II.
He is probably one of the strongest warriors housed within the Alliance, and not to be underestimated.
and another fault in his resoning, Varian has probably fought thousands of Orcs, I cant remember Garrosh ever fighting a Human other than Varian, and since every race has different fighting styles varian would win with sheer experience in fighting Garrosh's kind
A true warrior is able to adapt to any opponent regardless of race, style, or creed. Garrosh is a true warrior, and I think after fighting demons, dranei, and multiple other races (somthing that varian has little experience in) you learn a thing or two about overcoming intense situations. If you want to get technical, Garrosh is a Mag Har orc, not the traditional orc Varian's use to, so that negates what you said.
but you're forgetting something, firstly, green Orcs arent the traditional ones as they are Mag'har corrupted by Fel magic so the Mag'har and the green Orc's are technically the same
Also, even if there was a difference Varian fought countless Horde and god knows what else in Thrall's arenas and never lost, the difference between green Orcs and Mag'har Orcs is much less than the difference between a Draenei Vindicator and a Human King
the semi-recent additions of Varian to the alliance and Garrosh to the horde will cause nothing but problems. X( two hotheaded freaks with way too much strength and not enough intellect. :P
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Autokeybot 5 months ago
I have been told that Garrosh is killed by Thrall
iceman3317 10 months ago
garrosh < varian and thrall and jaina but TIRION is best.
4166363 1 year ago 2
Horde ones better :p
grimreaper358 1 year ago
man i loved the humans before but i got something to say to varian:
ever sense you got here you have always been talking about when you kill orcs,
and kill orcs and kill orcs. WHY IS IT ALWAYS ABOUT WHEN YOU KILL ORCS?????
i hate varian just for that and bechuase that he would rather kill 10 orcs then keeping a civillian safe from hundreds of scourge
jocke706 1 year ago
@jocke706 Varian has had some REALLY bad experiences with orcs (I suggest you read up on his lore) since he was a kid and Garrosh doesn't exactly encourage a change of heart. If you want to see something encouraging I recommend watching the Deathbringer Saurfang outro for Alliance players
ThatGUY666666 1 year ago
@ThatGUY666666 i already have read his lore but where the hell does saurfang came into this?
jocke706 1 year ago
@jocke706 Look up the outro for when an Alliance Raid takes down Deathbringer Saurgang in Icecrown Citadel and you'll see
ThatGUY666666 1 year ago
@amuizzski
Really do you thınk Varian have history but garosh ıs suck and dont have any hıstory?...
HE İS SON OF A HELLSCREAM! you idiot...He dont need history.... and FOR THE HORDEEEE!!!!!
IncubusTR 1 year ago
I hate horde when Garrosh takes over in cata. Some brute leader lol.
zarxces 1 year ago
Jaina is to Vatian as Thrall is to Garrosh?
ZeApeKing 1 year ago
Varian isn't too happy being near the horde, and Garrosh is just your stereotypical WC lore orc... While they have similarities, Varian can control himself much better, he doesn't need someone keeping him off others like Garrosh needs Thrall.
DarkvindFromIllier 1 year ago
I can understand why Varian hates the horde so much, kept as a gladiator slave owned by a horde its obvious he will hate the horde after that but Garrosh really he just hates the alliance cuz he thinks they r weak really that is not a good enough reason to hate
AzNHoBo0103 1 year ago
Hoarde stinks anyway FOR THE ALLIANCE
MagicShadeX3 1 year ago
i think tirion should take varian's place!!!!
nuttyjunior 1 year ago
has anyone noticed that in real times Varian has only 1 swords in cinematics but if u go to Stormwind he has 2?
Wowreyrey80DK 2 years ago
Varian isnt so bad man...if his father wasnt assassinated by a horde assassin,and if his home city stormwind wasnt destroyed by the horde in the 1st war,and that the person who saved his life(Sir Anduin Lothar) was killed by the warchieft of the horde,and also that he was taken by the horde to be a slave and a gladiator..After all that he still gave the new horde a Chance...and then Pultress Happen so tat was the last straw for him.
amuizzski 2 years ago 3
@amuizzski Thrall was taken prisoner to be a gladiator, too.
And Putress was a rebel, not a Horde member. It wasn't the Horde's fault.
StationaryHawk 2 years ago 2
ya but do you honestly think he believes that? no way he sees them all as having the potentiel to be evil and attack his people especialyy becasue of Garrosh Hellscream and how close heis to thrall and how he hates the alliance
p94mitch 1 year ago
putress was an undead member... and he killed one of his best friend bolvar.. so death to all the forsaken traitors
vecchiogeppone 2 years ago
Intentionly or accidently?
Grim6Boyz 2 years ago
Seriously, I want Velen to be the leader of the Alliance now, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea, sure he's new to the scene, but he's proven to be a good leader in BC. He's been since the Draenei were Eredar back in Argus, he's probably the oldest (except for Tyrande) and definitely wisest of all the Alliance leaders. Him and Thrall would probably get along extremely fine! Then Alliance an Horde work better together and Saurfang Cleaves Sargeras in the face, BOOM! Game over.
Delty86 2 years ago
@Delty86 maybe velen and thrall will get along but thrall's days are dwindling to an end according to cataclysm notes
popololo187 2 years ago
@Delty86 MAgni would be a better leader :P
davidvanrooy 2 years ago
i like ur idea man, but in cataclysm thrall aint gonna be warchief anymore.
garrosh is gonna be and he wont get along with any of the alliance leaders :P
all he wants is... WAR!
TjuvLarm 2 years ago
I would happily take anybody else as leader of the Alliance. Tyrande, Magni, Gelbin, Velen (fucking Velen would be PERFECT!!!). Hell, I would even take Hogger as leader. Everytime Varian opens his time wasting mouth I want to punch him in the face and take Lothar's belt from him. Fuck it, why not make his kid the king again? That was good times...
Delty86 2 years ago
After so many examples of the Horde killing alliance soldiers when the oppotunity shows has proven to me that the Alliance are the greater good and before Varian was here, no one did anything about it - now the Lion King has returned and he shall bring the misdeeds of the Horde to justice.
And what excatly makes Varian an asshole? Because he is critical towards the Horde? You have absolutly no arguments to start throwing trash at him
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
Garrosh is worse man...Varian had history of why he hates the horde...If u read in wowwiki...Varian did give the horde a chance when he became King..then Pultress happen
amuizzski 2 years ago
Varians no worse than garrosh
just he respects Jaina and Tirion
Garrosh has issues with respect it seems.
He respects thrall to a point but Garrosh is older than thrall and they are two very diffrent orcs.
Unit06JAW 2 years ago 2
@Unit06JAW Do you even know anything about Vairan Wrynn?
There are many examples of the new horde´s cruelty - Broken front is a good example - Varian Wrynn seems to be the only realising that the Horde will seize every oppotunity to slaugther Alliance soldiers, no matter the cost
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
You do realise that broken front went both ways?:p
And no i disagree the horde will not seize every opportunity to slaugher alliance soldiers. Garrosh will but the horde wont.
Big proplemo is the night elves! I don't think there can be much peace if any between the elves and the orcs. Certainly not with Garrosh in charge. By the looks of things in Cata horde well and truley spanks elven butt throwing them back to the very northern part of darkshore.
Unit06JAW 1 year ago
Both ways? You sir, should check on your lore before trying to prove something that is a lie.
The alliance forces were assaulting an undead force when a group of Horde soldiers discovered them.
The Horde force desided to backstep the alliance from behind while they were busy fighting the undead.
This is an example of the mentality of the orcs. INstead of joining the Alliance against the greater evil, they choosed to kill them and allow the undead force to live.
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
@Festabenkaj Stop bitching whether the Alliance or Horde are better. Both have their ups and downs.
roburboots 1 year ago
@roburboots That sounded like a very articulate argument^^
I am not "bitching" i am but stating the facts. The solve reason why the war started in the first case was because 1. "Horde continued to lumber in Ashenvale, giving a damn about the night elves" 2. "The dwarven expedition were suddenly attacked and slaugthered by Frostwolves" and 3. That the humans who own Arathi Basin (Leauge of Arathor, Stromgaurde) met the Forsaken there, who apperently said that this was their land now.
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
@Festabenkaj Congratz you know that orcs can cut trees. Nobody gives a shit whether the Alliance got shat on by the Horde. And nobody gives a shit whether the Orcs were in interment camps in Durnholde. Aiite? So just crawl back into your mother's vagina along with your "facts"
roburboots 1 year ago
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@roburboots "Both have their ups and downs" here you state that my point of view is wrong. and since you responded to my month old comment which was about who to blame, you invovle yourself into a lore debate. Sometimes it is wise to think before responding to a comment.
And you sir, i´d advise you to use a common language, pehaps you shoulder consider to " crawl back into your mother's vagina " since clearly is not mature enough to comment on youtube
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
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@roburboots Actully you responded to a month-old comment which was about who to blame, and by saying "Both have their ups and downs" you involve yourself into a lore debate. Sometimes it is wise to think before commenting.
As for your language, clearly you sir should consider to " crawl back into your mother's vagina" since you clearly is not mature enough to comment on youtube.
Festabenkaj 1 year ago
Hate between the orcs and elves is understandable Orcs were the slaves for the burning legion. Elves hate the legion. They hated orcs blindly. This drove the orcs to kill that druid god dude. After this negotiation seems unlikely. Varian has every right to hate the horde. Garrosh has little right to hate the alliance! Unless bliz soon adds something to strengthen his past. Varian Wrynn is just paranoid since his imprisonment. in ICC he seems to be letting go of some paranoia (Saurfang)
Unit06JAW 1 year ago
So tell me, when U.S combat drones killed innocent people like women and children. Does the entire U.S get blame and say we are cruel?
Bleu88 1 year ago
@Festabenkaj I'm not saying that the Horde are little red roses, but DO note that the order came from an officer whom had a IQ of -50 :p
Bexilulz 1 year ago
whats the name of the song :?
SuperBoby94 2 years ago
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alex01mmm 2 years ago
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alex01mmm 2 years ago
you fail
he is the king.
Anduin was only the king because of Varrians disapearance after he got enchanted by onixya and attacked by nagas etc. (long story)
Anyways you might have had him confused with Bolovar?
who died at the wrathgate
but afterall fighting the lich king here and he made a reapearance in ICC.
Unit06JAW 2 years ago
tirion should lead the alliance i hate the king and garrosh too
HellTr00per 2 years ago
Tirion aint a part of the Alliance.
ErikGunnarDahlin 2 years ago 7
acsualy garrosh is not related to thrall at all...grom hellscream only called thrall little brother but they were not related
deenman23 2 years ago
the hunter bored lol
amazon3b2 2 years ago
some random hunter follwing varian
WillStalker 2 years ago
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jaina and varien should so get togetherXD they would make a wonerderful couple....
SarahRosalind 2 years ago
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AzureAlliance 2 years ago
To me it seems the King Varian is like Garrosh, they both have so much hatred for everything lol.
wpar89 2 years ago 27
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Garosh Kick Varian's Ass!!!!! Thrall Too!!!!
Thrall <3
15Daxos15 2 years ago
You know that i could even solo Garrosh there would be no opponent for Varian but Varian vs. Thrall would be an interesting fight also as Jaina kicking garroshes ass
Elveheal 2 years ago
what kinda of paladin gear was Morgraine wearing
JWIZZY4real 2 years ago
you mean darian morgraine or his father?for darion it's the new dk tier set,as for the father it isn't a set,it's an uniforms from lordearon army
ail898 2 years ago
pre-3.3, he wears paladin tier 6.
post-3.3, he wears paladin tier 10.
Victimdevice 2 years ago
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Varian vs Garrosh...... FTW Garrosh would stomp him IMHO
cumatac 2 years ago
NA!!!!!!!!!!
JWIZZY4real 2 years ago 3
if u wanna see an equal fight it would be Varian vs Thrall
billieluis 2 years ago 4
Varian was captured by the Defias Brotherhood for a long time..you kill those guys at like lvl 17 or less, lol, he'd get his ass kicked by Thrall.
CoyoteFae 2 years ago
@CoyoteFae considering garrosh (whom i hate dearly) kicked thralls ass and varion (whom i hate) is an even match for garrosh...no he would not =3
vivi148 2 years ago
@Vivi148
Indeed, this is the concept they call a "joke" I believe. I was attempting to make one, it seems i've failed. I'll integrate myself back into human society one day. Just you watch!
CoyoteFae 2 years ago
This is equal, Saurfang VS thrall, varian, garrosh, The lich king, jaina. arthas and the rest of the world :)
SweGas 2 years ago
Wow. there are those who know a shit ton of lore and can "teach it to anyone you asks" but still its a game Derek dude calm down, It's not real and still a fantasy people enjoy wondering and watching things that inspire people to imagine "what would the world be like if it was a different race"
xander5670 2 years ago
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f a i l
nemkemanija 2 years ago
the music at the end is know stuck in my head lol:)
ilovetuff 2 years ago
Dude your in it just a little too deep
VonCrom666 2 years ago 2
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GovernorDerek 2 years ago
yeah yeah I know your going to either mock me for how much I typed or insult me or come up with retorts that will try to twist my words and such, but I have a lot to say, and if your mature you should respect my beliefs, like I respect yours even if I don't disagree with them much of the time.
like I said I try to understand your point of view, you shuold try to understand mine and the Alliance point of View as much as you might hate to do so.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
...DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR
zaccc 2 years ago
and you your just an antagonistic fool, and your not even worthy of my time aside from this message. and everyone you will say I shall dismiss, so don't even bother.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
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you seriously blocked me on your channel becouse I don't like your pet pretend faction in a pretend world?
Seek help. Seriously.
angrydead 2 years ago
Way to take something too seriously.
zaccc 2 years ago
but just remember this is a story, thier personalities might change, and you cannot predict the future as much as you think you can, now I am pure Alliance all the way, but for all that the horde have done, I still don;'t wish your the deaths of your entire race, nor thier enslavement, infact things were going great untill events set us back to old hatreds. killing the leaders would only add fuel to the fire. and the death of all.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
honestly what the hell is wrong with you people? why is it so pleasureable to see people who try to defend thier people from death instead of just antagonizing all the time and remarkably holding back untill the very end. why is it so cool to kill off humanity? I just don't get it. do you really hate your own speices that much that you get a kick out of wishing its extinction in a video game? and then mocking anyone and anything who wishes otherwise or tries to stop such a thing?
GovernorDerek 2 years ago 2
Why don't the Dwarves get any vids like these? :D
cupandmouse 2 years ago
so we fight the scourge?wow ya can u say dead withn a second?and kill arthas?geez ya im deffiently gonna do that at lvl 80
ilovetuff 2 years ago
Varians voice sounds a bit like Thralls except less orc.
IBeBlindMon 2 years ago
Maybe because they both have the same voice actor.
Link544 2 years ago 2
there both voiced by chris metzhen ironically
2580n00b 2 years ago 2
same voice actor, chirs metzen
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
Whoa Arthas is getting cheated on by Varian
pandaland1 2 years ago
Wow. Garrosh is actually a bigger jerk than Varian, as Varian can actually control his temper. Thrall and Jaina are awesome though...all they want to do is keep the peace. (Hopes Garrosh and Varian will kill each other)
ShadowWithinTheDark 2 years ago 15
Peace? This isn't World of Peacekeeping. It's World of WARcraft
sweetman16 2 years ago 3
exactly soon enough Varian and Garrosh's ego's may subside otherwise they'll wound each other in a test of stupidity
spikegilfer1997 2 years ago
Hopefully garrosh gives Varian what he deserves.
A swift beheading
zaccc 2 years ago
oh yeah varian deserves death for fighting those which seek the descrution of his entire speices. yeah its a sin to want to protect your own kind.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
@ShadowWithinTheDark it whould b cool if garosh and varian in the last expanshion were in like this final climactic battle im thinking something 2 do with a volcano and they both whent doun fighting eachother and thrall and jiana led azeroth in2 a new age of peace bettween the alliance and horde but i know it proly wont ever happenQQ
florenmage 1 year ago
@florenmage No it ownt it would be epic when Malfurion lead the Guardians of Nodrassil to victory against ragnaros Thrall and the earthen ring along with the dragons managed to destroy Deathwing but his human form to rise up and varian and garrosh take him down as a team.That would be epic.
Lastbutnotleast95 1 year ago
I really hope Thrall or Garrosh just kills Varian. But Varian does a good job in the PvP part.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
I don't think that will happen, I more expect Garrosh to kill Anduin when Anduin jumps in to stop a quarrel between Varian and Garrosh.
Eucep 2 years ago
Anduin...Wrynn?
Darkfirelol1019 2 years ago
Yep, the kid. I'm fairly sure they will kill him off for the simple reason that he's to perfect a king, he'd be one able to stop the war between alliance and horde for good. And they don't want that.
Eucep 2 years ago
LOL, He's not king anymore....he's prince?
Darkfirelol1019 2 years ago
Not now no, but I am fairly sure he's next in line and such.
Eucep 2 years ago
Garrosh has more chance of death than varian does, he has a better backstory, Garrosh is just there to create conflict he came out of nowhere with very little backround story.
and why should someone who is trying to destroy those who wish his people harm a crime? all the alliance has done ever since its founding is to safeguard its own people, the only reason they are more warlike now is because of generations of war and treachery, against the horde for the most part.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
the Alliance were for the most part leaving the horde alone, you don't bother us, we don't bother you, and while there were extreamnists on both sides like the BG factions, both factions wanted peace, then the whole wraithgate happens, which to alliance eyes after generations of conflict and still lack of trust to the horde beleive that the horde betrayed the pact and that any claims otherwise were propaganda, then the UC event happens and all the shit that went down there.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
which to the alliance is proof that the horde haven't changed, even if we all know that the Horde overall didin't know about the shit down there. Alliance think that thrall and the rest of the horde know everything about the other's actions. so they thought that thrall knows about the UC shit. and frankly you would have to be messed up in the head to not freak out from seeing the shit in the UC if you were in thier shoes, its easy to look the other way but just try to think like they have.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
I have put myself into your sides shoes and I have tried and still try to understand the why of thier actions and the reasons for it. but really now you cannot just ignore the facts that the Alliance had just cause to revert to a warlike stance after all the recent events after generations of conflict, its a self-defence reaction, it would be like if a pitbull tired to bite your balls off, you would either want the dog dead, or at least away from you.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
and killing thier leaders for only wishing to keep thier people safe isn't going to solve much and would only validate the alliance stance even more. Garrosh wants conquest, and a compleate take over, Varian at first wanted peace to safeguard his people albet reluctently because of his past and his race, and yet after all the shit that happend recently he feels that to truely save his people he has to strike his enemy first before they deliver the killing blow.
GovernorDerek 2 years ago
why when ur turn ur xp bar of u dont get no honor or u cant enter a bg there arent enough people who make twinks put us with the otheres thats what the dumbest thing they ever did tryiong to rush us al to 80 we dont wanna all be 80
prestonakalegend 2 years ago
Who made this shit ass video? lawl
doug905 2 years ago
Outland is the remainings of Draenor the homeworld of both Draenei and Orcs
Ner'zhul aka Lich King today by then just an orc shaman he opened portals to Azeroth to do Kill'Jaeden's bidding but he is unsuccessful and his physical body get's destroyed his soul is encased in the Icecrown (literally)not the land (the helm of LK)
MGS4onXbox360LOLwut 2 years ago
So he tryed to open portals and to use Wow slang they FAILED and destroyed Draenor and all what remains from it now it's just Outland
Argus was the original homeworld of the eredar (eg Archimonde ,KillJaeden,Velen are eredar NOT draenei so they look similar but they are not the same !!!!!!)
MGS4onXbox360LOLwut 2 years ago
acsualy...draneis are eredars that ran away from argus...draeneis means exiled ones
deenman23 2 years ago
lol you know whats funny they always present King varyan and jaina but they dont show the king of ironforge or king of the gnomes or exodar or darnassus lol
acheron777 2 years ago 2
Thats because King Varian and Jaina are more or less the representatives of the whole alliance.
Searif 2 years ago
I like the Horde one better even tho I am Alliance.
hexeel 2 years ago
well rumours are that there going to be goblins as a new horde race and worgen for a alliance race..... don't hold me to that its only a rumour after all.
firebane87 2 years ago
i also heard that the next expansion is going to be called "The Emerald Dream" and theres going to be a new hero class called "The Arch Druid"
F1r3Warrior5 2 years ago
lolz
good joke
NaretofDestromath 2 years ago
Garrosh and the king are basically as bad as each other, its thrall ans jaina trying to hold the peace
dyranos 2 years ago
lol i was thinking if there will be a new expansion shall there be a new race??lol like naga or centaur or sumthing else. mabye in the new expansion u can go to the draenai home world (if it still exist)
unrealassasination 2 years ago
i hope they make a new expansion like aliens and space LOL. it would be kinda awesome
darroni123 2 years ago
the draenei home world is outland which is also the homeworld of the orcs.
xPaRaMoReaReAwSoMe 2 years ago
actually, it's a planet known as Argus. Outland, or Draenor was a planet that they lived to flee the Legion
TheChoujinVirus 2 years ago
uhm outland is NOT the draenei homeworld they came from a planet called Argus. the draeneis came to outland because Sargeras turned had taken over theyre world and turned most of the draenei population in demons.
unrealassasination 2 years ago
please check that if anyone has alredi pointed that out, because they have, and there description is much more accurate thaan yours
xPaRaMoReaReAwSoMe 2 years ago
ally is cooler to be
unless you go to pvp
then it's totally not fun to be ally
yes... Sucks a lot
DawgYoDawg 2 years ago
Also Varyian is way too into himself btw..
Still Varyian > Garrosh any day. (BTW I apologize if I MT his name. I have only like 3 alli toons and I personally hate SW >.>
Ugly lookin place
weskerkiller2 2 years ago
In away it almost feels like Garrosh is planning to betray Thrall in away, like a forshadow of sorts..
Who knows next patch.. Those of us within Orgrammar may be attending an unexpected funeral.
weskerkiller2 2 years ago
Thats prety much likely because almost every Horde race has his own splinter faction. Still I think Thrall is way too popular and awsome to die any day soon. I think that when the LK is dead (dead complete after all he is alredy half dead XD) Sylvanas will have no more use for the Horde so I think she is the most likely to betray Thrall.
Link544 2 years ago
thats bs...sylvanas dint join the horde to beat the lich king..just as a mean to survive...and why would she betray the horde??to be left alone...lol no way
deenman23 2 years ago
And this coment form excatly where come from?.. Any way I will answer it:
Why would she betray the horde you ask? Just ask any Forsken NPC (Answer: Death to the living).
She dosent care about the Horde at all that is implied again and again in her character (and her whole faction for that matter). For her the Horde are just a toll to a means and its perfectly explained that the Forsaken dosent welcome the living (even they suposed allies) in the Horde players guide.
Link544 2 years ago 3
lol did i say she CARES??abouht the horde?i sed she cares abouht survining in the world...tahts why she wont be betraying anyone anytime soon...unless she finds some other aliance...
deenman23 2 years ago
Of course she needs her allies to survive at any time soon (enogh to say that Blizz cant put out 1 race out of the game and just erase all the characters of said race) but I am talking about the long run.
But lorewise after Arthas is defeted she will have 1 less reason to allie herself with the Horde. That is another reason for Blizzard to fill Undercity with Kron Kron Guards instead of the clasic Abominations since it helps explain why she dosent betray the Horde on the open.
Link544 2 years ago
she did join the horde cuz so she maby some day my have her reveanch on arthas
Norling99 2 years ago
she's getting her own revenge in the new ICC dungeons. lol
tehdestroyerer 2 years ago
Doubtful, hes very brash, like a human Garrosh almost.
deviant3232 2 years ago
True but varian wrynn is even more of an idiot, he believes all of the horde are savages and should be imprisoned and destroyed.
dyranos 2 years ago
Jana Bitch-moare :P
TOMASASX 2 years ago
Yea..lol
TanzzTehPro 2 years ago
I despise Varian with a passion. Any alliance idiot who can't see him for what he is, is just the same as an idiot who can't see Garrosh for what he is.
Jaina is a hero of the last great war, and stood together with Thrall, so she knows more then anyone the honor the horde represent in times of war. But Varian is still fusing over events of his past, unable to see the greater picture like an ill-breed child.
I hope he dies, I really do.
kimahri45k 2 years ago 6
You do know that the person you're trying to insult is a NPC right?
SabaskaTheNoob 2 years ago 2
the hellscream family is just so badass it amazes me. Grom was the all time best warcraft character ever, blizzard was fuckin dumb to kill him. but o wait! his badass son is here. garrosh fuckin pwnz shit up
roflcoptersz 2 years ago
Even though i am a Horde Player but i got to say the alliance one is MUCH MUCH BETTER!!!!!
NewGamer1231 2 years ago 2
it wont load!!!?? ffs
Rolleren86 2 years ago
I no T_T
Tehbizzle 2 years ago
Variann has always annoyed me. I liked Bolvar alot more
Halikarz31 2 years ago
if ur a edt u cant play till 5 then servers shutdown at 7am edt
chilwil07 2 years ago
Why can't we play WOW
drkilljoy26 2 years ago
Garrosh should kill Varian. that would make things interesting.
AAAAAAAAbsolutely101 2 years ago
Garrosh is weaker than Varian, its a fact.
Also, Garrosh will most likely try to overthrow Thrall and will get killed by Saurfang at the last minute.
DargorV 2 years ago
dude, Garrosh basically beat Thrall, who is stronger than Varian. It's not a fact, you're a flamer.
AAAAAAAAbsolutely101 2 years ago
Varian being less of an arrogant ass hat? what's the world coming to!
jikonius 2 years ago
Patch is out! YES!!!
Vespids 2 years ago
But we can't play till 3:00 full of shit.
ifarted9876 2 years ago
DUDE THATS REAL STUFF!!!!its in the patch 3.2
arnaudking666 2 years ago
The video is broken
Sarkarin 2 years ago
fix the alliance video OP.
qcyaokiol 2 years ago
Having read the comics about Varian I'd say he's right about some things. Just too bad that Garona had to fuck things up even more.
Vyomesh1984 2 years ago 2
Note that on one faction, the leader is being an irrational yutz while the subcommander is being sensible...and on the other side, it's the opposite.
FarseerLolotea 2 years ago 2
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varian is a slave thats been put to fight, garrosh is the son of hellscream so ofc garrosh would win over varian 1v1!
dannyrege 2 years ago
Varian Wrynn is not a simple slave, he's the King of Stormwind, and have been trained as such since his youth, first by his father King Llane, and later by heroes of the Alliance as Lord Anduin Lothar, Muradin Bronzebeard and King Terenas Menethil II.
He is probably one of the strongest warriors housed within the Alliance, and not to be underestimated.
dekadans77 2 years ago
and another fault in his resoning, Varian has probably fought thousands of Orcs, I cant remember Garrosh ever fighting a Human other than Varian, and since every race has different fighting styles varian would win with sheer experience in fighting Garrosh's kind
SabreTheTaleTeller 2 years ago
A true warrior is able to adapt to any opponent regardless of race, style, or creed. Garrosh is a true warrior, and I think after fighting demons, dranei, and multiple other races (somthing that varian has little experience in) you learn a thing or two about overcoming intense situations. If you want to get technical, Garrosh is a Mag Har orc, not the traditional orc Varian's use to, so that negates what you said.
Kaelthalanthas 2 years ago
but you're forgetting something, firstly, green Orcs arent the traditional ones as they are Mag'har corrupted by Fel magic so the Mag'har and the green Orc's are technically the same
Also, even if there was a difference Varian fought countless Horde and god knows what else in Thrall's arenas and never lost, the difference between green Orcs and Mag'har Orcs is much less than the difference between a Draenei Vindicator and a Human King
SabreTheTaleTeller 2 years ago
Garrosh has been an emo fag all of his life until like a year ago when thrall came and told him about his dad.
SenorTucan0594 2 years ago
something tells me that the trailer for 3.2 is basicly going to be a repeat of 3.2 with some twist itll be hard to get pumped up for this raid
Tony007corp 2 years ago
3.1 =)
fruitismeal 2 years ago
oh ur right 3.1
Tony007corp 2 years ago
How can the 3.2 trailer be a repeat of itself?
Malsherz 2 years ago
the other guy corrected me then i coreected myself
Tony007corp 2 years ago
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Damienx247 2 years ago
the semi-recent additions of Varian to the alliance and Garrosh to the horde will cause nothing but problems. X( two hotheaded freaks with way too much strength and not enough intellect. :P
MegaChickenfish 2 years ago
Varian's a lot smarter than Garrosh. Lol.
lrossi888 2 years ago
I see no difference between Varian and Garrosh, both are tools.
NeedMoarRoagz 2 years ago
Varian is right, perhaps? :P
lrossi888 2 years ago 3
Warning: Spoiler
rainCZ 2 years ago