I would love to know more about the story behind how this session was lost, and how it came to be suddenly.... you mentioned synchronicity... well I would love to be "enlightened" haha on how we now have them public!
@RiffCantrell Thank you for your response. I don't believe I missed Mr. Wilson's point at all; I just disagree. I love RAW, by the way, just don't resonate with this one. Non attachment is one aspect of enlightenment, but he expresses it as "just another lousy sunset." An ecstatic connection with nature and the world, as in the poems or Rumi or William Blake, are much more the aspect of enlightenment and spiritual connection that resonate with me. It's devotional.
@ImaginationBlue Ah, but RAW's definition of enlightened has more to do with complete detachment. Your version is subjective to your own perceived needs.
@RiffCantrell I suggest we see this less academically and more practically. I haven't set out to define enlightenment. The perspective RAW puts forth here is in my opinion not called for in today's western culture, as we already have far too much numb disconnection from our feelings and from nature, and wholesale rapacious destruction of it. "Another lousy sunrise" is not what we need in today's world, which is ridden with a crisis of connection and compassion. Feeling.
@ImaginationBlue OK, I believe we've misunderstood each other. My initial comment was a reply to a statement I thought was untrue, or a misrepresentation of what RAW said. Your comment that I reply'd to read as if Mr Wilson was wrong in his definition of enlightenment and I corrected that statement believing you didn't understand his point. You both define enlightenment differently...haha, lets leave it at that!
RAW was talking about observation without judgement, not numb disconnection. You hear Ram Dass talking about the same thing a lot - the ability to observe a potentially horrifying or ecstatic experience and observing it without judging its inherent qualities. Just my input.
@HueyTheDoctor87 That's a really good point. RiffCantrell made excellent points as well. Thank you guys. I listen to Robert Anton Wilson almost daily in my car by the way. I have tons of audio interviews and talks, and love his stuff.
I've only just stumbled onto his work over the last month or so, I'm a huge fan of McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake and Ralph Abraham - the trialogues they held were fantastic; McKenna's solo lectures are equally fascinating. With regards to what we were talking about, Ram Dass said on a number of occasions how he can't help but see both sides of everything. Even the most horrible events are filled with beauty and purity. Seeing both sides is a sort of disconnection.
A deep feeling of connection, ecstasy and gratitude as a response to nature is, in my opinion, much more what is called for than "just another lousy sunrise" and would help bring a love for and connection and balance to the world and nature, which is a living and feeling being. This perspective is not about me, as in this case there is no other; there's just us.
nevermind just found the liner notes! hahaha I will read now!
MusicConveyor 1 week ago
I would love to know more about the story behind how this session was lost, and how it came to be suddenly.... you mentioned synchronicity... well I would love to be "enlightened" haha on how we now have them public!
regardless thanks for the upload!
MusicConveyor 1 week ago
Nothing special just some random RAW babblings : ) great audio, thanks a lot!
g1d1 1 month ago
Thank you : ) keep the spaghetti flying over roswel !
g1d1 1 month ago
I love you.
halfzombiehalfrobot 1 month ago
Nothing like a good, long Wilson rant. Thanks for sharing.
ProfessorNobody 2 months ago in playlist The Lost Studio Sessions
I think you would be closer to the enlightenment Mr. Wilson is talking about it the sunset brought you to tears of joy and gratitude.
ImaginationBlue 2 months ago
@ImaginationBlue But that would suggest that you are using, or being used, by your emotions. I think you missed the point.
RiffCantrell 1 month ago
@RiffCantrell Thank you for your response. I don't believe I missed Mr. Wilson's point at all; I just disagree. I love RAW, by the way, just don't resonate with this one. Non attachment is one aspect of enlightenment, but he expresses it as "just another lousy sunset." An ecstatic connection with nature and the world, as in the poems or Rumi or William Blake, are much more the aspect of enlightenment and spiritual connection that resonate with me. It's devotional.
ImaginationBlue 1 month ago
@ImaginationBlue Ah, but RAW's definition of enlightened has more to do with complete detachment. Your version is subjective to your own perceived needs.
RiffCantrell 1 month ago
@RiffCantrell I suggest we see this less academically and more practically. I haven't set out to define enlightenment. The perspective RAW puts forth here is in my opinion not called for in today's western culture, as we already have far too much numb disconnection from our feelings and from nature, and wholesale rapacious destruction of it. "Another lousy sunrise" is not what we need in today's world, which is ridden with a crisis of connection and compassion. Feeling.
ImaginationBlue 1 month ago
@ImaginationBlue OK, I believe we've misunderstood each other. My initial comment was a reply to a statement I thought was untrue, or a misrepresentation of what RAW said. Your comment that I reply'd to read as if Mr Wilson was wrong in his definition of enlightenment and I corrected that statement believing you didn't understand his point. You both define enlightenment differently...haha, lets leave it at that!
RiffCantrell 1 month ago
@ImaginationBlue
RAW was talking about observation without judgement, not numb disconnection. You hear Ram Dass talking about the same thing a lot - the ability to observe a potentially horrifying or ecstatic experience and observing it without judging its inherent qualities. Just my input.
HueyTheDoctor87 2 weeks ago
@HueyTheDoctor87 That's a really good point. RiffCantrell made excellent points as well. Thank you guys. I listen to Robert Anton Wilson almost daily in my car by the way. I have tons of audio interviews and talks, and love his stuff.
ImaginationBlue 2 weeks ago
@ImaginationBlue
I've only just stumbled onto his work over the last month or so, I'm a huge fan of McKenna, Rupert Sheldrake and Ralph Abraham - the trialogues they held were fantastic; McKenna's solo lectures are equally fascinating. With regards to what we were talking about, Ram Dass said on a number of occasions how he can't help but see both sides of everything. Even the most horrible events are filled with beauty and purity. Seeing both sides is a sort of disconnection.
HueyTheDoctor87 2 weeks ago
A deep feeling of connection, ecstasy and gratitude as a response to nature is, in my opinion, much more what is called for than "just another lousy sunrise" and would help bring a love for and connection and balance to the world and nature, which is a living and feeling being. This perspective is not about me, as in this case there is no other; there's just us.
ImaginationBlue 1 month ago
I listened to this while rocking the baby to sleep and then taking care of a few other chores. It was quite lovely and entertaining.
DaiReborn 2 months ago
I just discovered RAW
this is great stuff,thanks you for posting.
MrDucky2112 3 months ago
I'm currently re-reading Cosmic Trigger, one of the most thought-provoking books I've ever read. Gonna read Illuminatus again after (3rd time).
jonnyredi 3 months ago
Thank you so much for this, Bob Wilson is one of my fav's!!!!!
quantumtheo 3 months ago
Thank you so much for uploading - not only this one, but ALL of them.
LunkwillFook 3 months ago 7
He makes me smile...
PaulDylin 3 months ago
I like this guy.
greenghost2008 3 months ago
New RAW never heard before, thank you much for this!!!
DoctrinaBytes 3 months ago
fucking love you for uploading this
excellent, RAW at his most hilarious
Kullg4r 3 months ago
@Kullg4r YES!
vigaroux 3 months ago
blimp you are my hero!
tsar1102 3 months ago