I dunno I enjoyed this book. It kind of felt like the write was trying to make Riddler and Hush fight like Bane in Knightfall by wearing Batman out. It's not a great written story, but it is redeemed with Hush returns and Heart of Hush. Heart of Hush being my favorite. I liked his hospital filled with zombified people. Oh and Scarecrow was awesome as well haha
@blowshimselfupdude I just finished the trade, It is alright and I agree it is not terrible, would you want to see an animated movie out of this, and if not, what batman story would you like to see a movie out of it.
This is one of my favorites, this along with knightfall. Hush, Croc, Azrael, and Dick Grayson (especially as batman) are my favorite batman characters. I do agree though they shouldn't have brought back todd, i hate it when writers do that, it takes away the power in their death. Same with Barry Allen, Hal Jordan, Superboy, Superman, Batman, Captain America, etc.
I read Dark Victory right after re-reading Long Halloween, and I don't hate it, but it is very, very weak compared to Long Halloween as well as having the same type of story.
I wouldnt be so hard on this story it has great art, is entertaining, and that is just all. The plot is mediocre, Tommy Elliot is not believable as a criminal mastermind, same goes for the Riddler, the story should have been caled Rush, zillions of characters, no pacing, characterization, etc, Paul Dini really had to work a lot, for developing Hush on th Heart of Hush storyline , which is excellent, because the original Hush was a mediocre character. Be well man
maybe but you were to hard on Hush this is my favorite Batman story and the first one i read but i do agree with you on Long Halloween that is a good story too
i dont like how dark knight returns makes batman use guns that is not batman batman has a no firearms rule to not use a gun in fact the only time it was ever nessecary for him to use a gun was when he shot Darkseid in order to save the world
@blowshimselfupdude no, there was a whole story about how batman isnt going to use a gun. and there was a book called Batman and Me by Bob Kane which has a whole friggin paragraph about how Batman doesn't use guns that was written before crisis was even thought of. I would know. I have the book.
@blowshimselfupdude 1/2 of the book is talking about how Bill Finger helped create lots of the batman anyways. it then goes onto later years when both he and Bill Finger weren't even writing comics anymore, and finally it talks about the TV Shows/Movie
Besides, every single thing ive seen u post on youtube is a review of something that you dont, like that all u care about.
@blowshimselfupdude i have watched all of the videos of years that link to this video and most are: what were they thinking? this is god awful! this sucks!
Really? I thought Dark Victory was pretty ok. But really just retreading the Long Hallowenn stuff. And more then that. It really dropped the ball with Robin.
This was the first batman book I ever read (full series wise, I've read single issues before) so I really liked it when Batman decides to kill joker but I can see how you didn't. The thing that I HATED about Harvey Dents part was that it felt like he was there to trick the reader rather than Batman. And something you forgot to mention is the beautiful artwork by Jim Lee
It seems like this was alot of people's first Batman book so they liked the Joker bit. But I'd already read so many stories that had done the exact samething and done it better it bugged me.
I personally thought that Dark Victory was a better version of The Long Halloween. The mystery was SO much better and it wasn't as repetitive as Long Halloween proved to be.
dude i totally disagree , i think hush is awesome .....its no where near long halloween ...but cmon it is awesome ..its one of my favorites ....but hush returns was garbage haha ...oh my god i almost hung myself after reading returns
I think you are a being a little harsh. The point of "Hush", in my opinion, was to reboot Batman for new readers. As a comic reader, you should know that this is necessary every few years. And, it worked for me, it is what brought me back to DC. It is not, at all, the greatest Batman story, but it is pretty good. At least in my opinion.
This wasn't intended ot be or marketed as a reboot. and it's not a reboot in any sence of the word. If anything around this time was a reboot it would be the new Gotham stuff.
Ithink Hush is very pourly written. And if it had just some artist as oposed to Jim Lee it wouldn't even be remebered. Because it's not very good.
and technically the point of something cant be in your opinion. the point of something is determined by the inventor or writer. it can be your guess though
Well it can. Because the point wasn't to reboot. It's not a reboot in any sence of the word. That's like saying the point of a Godzilla movie is to make you think about the fact that the core of the earth will eventually fade. Sur eyou can SAY it's the point. but it isn't.
read flash rogue war ...........and flash rogue ................both by jeff gohns he was incredible on it .........he made the flashes rogues gallery in a bunch of homicidal drug addicted maniacs .....or more than they already were lol
barry is alittle before my time .......but he was the best flash that ever lived in my opinion .......wally was never ever used correctly they mad him into such an asss .....i heard hes going be a diffrent hero now with a diiffrent suit .....barry is taking over
thats a great price im goign to check it out ........the book could of been alot better ....i am really looking forward to flash rebirth on wednesday......any thought ???
Not really. I haven't read alot of Flash comics. I'm sad they depowered Wally tho. I liked him. I've never had any real conection to Barry given that I've not read much pre crisis with the flash in it.
I think what really turned me off about Dark victory is I read it right after Lon gHalloween and I was excpeting somethign new. Not the same story. But on it's own it's pretty good. Not Long Halloween. But alright.
i agree the killing joke long halloween/dark victory and the dark knight returns is better.....but it was still a very exciting and thrilliing series ......it kept me on the edge of my seat (i never had a book do that)........and jim lees art is amazing ..............they are making a absoulte hush book .
The only thing good about this story is the appreciation you gain for it after reading Hush Returns. Anyways, you can't throw in every villain into a story, knowing it will be collected, and expect people to take every character series. This goes for all strories including the classics like Arkham Asylum and Long Halloween. Unlike the mentioned stories, however, Hush suffers from any plot worth reading at all.
I guess the Year Long run on Batman: No Man's Land is still the best crossover story arc...
Jim Lee's art is great, perhaps for one major flaw...that is not being able to create a tense mood anywhere which he CLEARLY MENTIONED in the introduction so I dont blame him :)
And lastly, agreed that this book is alittle draggy, perhaps 1 TP will be enough...Jeph has the tendency of REPEATING speeches, whats happened before in the first few pages of the comic.
it has cliché wirtten all over it, it is far too long and that even without a reason. 30% of the comic could easily have been cutted out and there would be no flawes in storytelling. you know from issue 2 on who hush is which makes it really repetitive to read in the first place. it's just the same old without ANYTHING new. that being said, i really don't like jim lee. i'm just not a fan of his style, he looks to clean, too sharp, too flawless without a real soul. typical 90's youngblood stuff.
hush is one of the few comicbooks i REALLY don't like... no... i almost HATE! hush might have been a decend comicbook back in the 80's where batman was reinvented as a dark and brooding character. for todays standards, it's just cliché. also this comic book would be really nice if jeph loeb just wouldn't have done the EXACT SAME STORY two times before (long halloween, dark victory). it's just so annoying to see that so many people love this comic when it really isn't that good.
well I just want to say that I think your wrong about the Joker part of the story... sure Batman has thought about killing the Joker before... however in hush he was going to do it and the way he was thinking how he could do it was really well done...
hey I haven't finished reading the No man's land series..... so don't spoil it for me... and in Death in that Family he wasn't over the jokers body thinking of horrible ways to kill him.... I mean in hush he says " I could pound his head into the pavement until his brains spilled out all over the sidewalk.... but I read Hush before Death in the Family so for me it was the first time... maybe that is why people like it better then you do... because it was new for them
I dunno I enjoyed this book. It kind of felt like the write was trying to make Riddler and Hush fight like Bane in Knightfall by wearing Batman out. It's not a great written story, but it is redeemed with Hush returns and Heart of Hush. Heart of Hush being my favorite. I liked his hospital filled with zombified people. Oh and Scarecrow was awesome as well haha
blazedbl 1 week ago
The art is amazing.A gr8 Batman book,in my top 10 easy!
socillizt4life 2 months ago
@blowshimselfupdude I just finished the trade, It is alright and I agree it is not terrible, would you want to see an animated movie out of this, and if not, what batman story would you like to see a movie out of it.
klaatu1998 2 months ago
This is one of my favorites, this along with knightfall. Hush, Croc, Azrael, and Dick Grayson (especially as batman) are my favorite batman characters. I do agree though they shouldn't have brought back todd, i hate it when writers do that, it takes away the power in their death. Same with Barry Allen, Hal Jordan, Superboy, Superman, Batman, Captain America, etc.
tgd124 2 months ago
But Thomas Elliot wasn't behind everything.
TheMysteryTheatre 4 months ago
beautiful artwork but good not great story
it will get you into batman though
DRisLegend200919 5 months ago
you sound like someone who takes himself too seriously!
i think you need to........... lighten up!
myconius 6 months ago
I read Dark Victory right after re-reading Long Halloween, and I don't hate it, but it is very, very weak compared to Long Halloween as well as having the same type of story.
nick33304 7 months ago
hush looks like negitive man to me
kakuman1995 10 months ago
I wouldnt be so hard on this story it has great art, is entertaining, and that is just all. The plot is mediocre, Tommy Elliot is not believable as a criminal mastermind, same goes for the Riddler, the story should have been caled Rush, zillions of characters, no pacing, characterization, etc, Paul Dini really had to work a lot, for developing Hush on th Heart of Hush storyline , which is excellent, because the original Hush was a mediocre character. Be well man
TheVetoSkreeemer 11 months ago 12
when did batman beat up the joker before?
dethronethesonofgod 1 year ago
I thought it was great. stop ranting on Loeb, dude
pigsfly41498 1 year ago
dude your totally bias to Jeph Loeb. Everything you said about the story was bull shit. Stop reviewing Batman comics, please =]
DrummerGJE 1 year ago
jeph loeb, frank miller, and grant morrison are great batman writers
BROKENHOUSEFILMS 1 year ago 3
you sound just like deathgodstorm
ANTIcoFilms 1 year ago
@ANTIcoFilms Meaning?
blowshimselfupdude 1 year ago
batman:hush has its high and low... the conclusion was the lowest cause it was confusing as hell
krissthebliss 1 year ago 3
Hush and Long Halloween are my favorite Batman books of all time
Ziggz47 1 year ago 2
The art on Hush is some of the best I have ever seen! Jim Lee is awesome in my opinion!
Serena2583 1 year ago
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DRisLegend200919 8 months ago
yo i got a question.i read this a while ago and im reading it again and it got me thinking..why doesnt bruce trust selina?
and why did harvey shoot hush when he was supposedly in league with him?
maiwandi2 2 years ago
maybe but you were to hard on Hush this is my favorite Batman story and the first one i read but i do agree with you on Long Halloween that is a good story too
cyclonev8 2 years ago
i dont like how dark knight returns makes batman use guns that is not batman batman has a no firearms rule to not use a gun in fact the only time it was ever nessecary for him to use a gun was when he shot Darkseid in order to save the world
cyclonev8 2 years ago 4
This has what do do with Hush?
He doesn't use a real gun. AND it was made defore Crisis which is when the no guns rule was REALLY set in stone
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago 4
@blowshimselfupdude no the no guns rule was applied in the silver age, with denny oneil and neal adams
eradicaar 1 year ago
@eradicaar No the guns were removed at the end of his first year of publication. But the idea that he WON'T use a gun came late post crisis
blowshimselfupdude 1 year ago 2
@blowshimselfupdude no, there was a whole story about how batman isnt going to use a gun. and there was a book called Batman and Me by Bob Kane which has a whole friggin paragraph about how Batman doesn't use guns that was written before crisis was even thought of. I would know. I have the book.
eradicaar 1 year ago
@eradicaar Well the big problem with that is that it's written by Bob Kane who's a liar and a thief and just all around bad person.
blowshimselfupdude 1 year ago 2
@blowshimselfupdude 1/2 of the book is talking about how Bill Finger helped create lots of the batman anyways. it then goes onto later years when both he and Bill Finger weren't even writing comics anymore, and finally it talks about the TV Shows/Movie
Besides, every single thing ive seen u post on youtube is a review of something that you dont, like that all u care about.
eradicaar 1 year ago 2
@eradicaar I have done LOTS of videos about things I like.
blowshimselfupdude 1 year ago
@blowshimselfupdude i have watched all of the videos of years that link to this video and most are: what were they thinking? this is god awful! this sucks!
eradicaar 1 year ago
@eradicaar So a handful of videos means ALL or even MOST of my videos are negative?
blowshimselfupdude 1 year ago
on the mater of hush and hush being jason todd in batman annual 25 it shows that he switched places with clay face during the fight
bob214100 1 year ago
dark knight returns stinks
LeighMet 2 years ago
no way. 'dark knight returns' is good. 'dark knight strikes again' stinks
MarioBario 2 years ago
I did not get it and I do not see Batman doing those things
LeighMet 2 years ago
i didnt like dark knight strikes again
buns134 2 years ago 2
no one did
TravisTuchdown 2 years ago
I did.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
FUCK YOU!
TravisTuchdown 2 years ago
You are so right about Jeph Loeb writing the hulk!
jep1376 2 years ago
I think you just have bad taste.
BigFatCheese100 2 years ago
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BigFatCheese100 2 years ago
I liked the Robin story. It gave us Anthony Zucco. Don't know why you didn't like.
BigFatCheese100 2 years ago
Dark Victory is much better than The Long Halloween.
BigFatCheese100 2 years ago
Really? I thought Dark Victory was pretty ok. But really just retreading the Long Hallowenn stuff. And more then that. It really dropped the ball with Robin.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago 2
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BigFatCheese100 2 years ago
This was the first batman book I ever read (full series wise, I've read single issues before) so I really liked it when Batman decides to kill joker but I can see how you didn't. The thing that I HATED about Harvey Dents part was that it felt like he was there to trick the reader rather than Batman. And something you forgot to mention is the beautiful artwork by Jim Lee
MaggotOli 2 years ago
It seems like this was alot of people's first Batman book so they liked the Joker bit. But I'd already read so many stories that had done the exact samething and done it better it bugged me.
It kind of goes without saying.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago 4
I personally thought that Dark Victory was a better version of The Long Halloween. The mystery was SO much better and it wasn't as repetitive as Long Halloween proved to be.
BrayneHurricane 2 years ago
dude i totally disagree , i think hush is awesome .....its no where near long halloween ...but cmon it is awesome ..its one of my favorites ....but hush returns was garbage haha ...oh my god i almost hung myself after reading returns
mjawwarrior 2 years ago
I think you are a being a little harsh. The point of "Hush", in my opinion, was to reboot Batman for new readers. As a comic reader, you should know that this is necessary every few years. And, it worked for me, it is what brought me back to DC. It is not, at all, the greatest Batman story, but it is pretty good. At least in my opinion.
joecollinsx 2 years ago
This wasn't intended ot be or marketed as a reboot. and it's not a reboot in any sence of the word. If anything around this time was a reboot it would be the new Gotham stuff.
Ithink Hush is very pourly written. And if it had just some artist as oposed to Jim Lee it wouldn't even be remebered. Because it's not very good.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago 9
and technically the point of something cant be in your opinion. the point of something is determined by the inventor or writer. it can be your guess though
FLuffeeFreak 2 years ago
Well it can. Because the point wasn't to reboot. It's not a reboot in any sence of the word. That's like saying the point of a Godzilla movie is to make you think about the fact that the core of the earth will eventually fade. Sur eyou can SAY it's the point. but it isn't.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago 3
its worth it ......do you have aim??? if so my screename is shady4life242 .....jus hit me up on there
jets4life242 2 years ago
read flash rogue war ...........and flash rogue ................both by jeff gohns he was incredible on it .........he made the flashes rogues gallery in a bunch of homicidal drug addicted maniacs .....or more than they already were lol
jets4life242 2 years ago
I'd like ot get his whole 8 volume run at some point.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
barry is alittle before my time .......but he was the best flash that ever lived in my opinion .......wally was never ever used correctly they mad him into such an asss .....i heard hes going be a diffrent hero now with a diiffrent suit .....barry is taking over
jets4life242 2 years ago
I heard Geof Johns runon Flash was really good.
i'd rather they just retire Wally honestly.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
thats a great price im goign to check it out ........the book could of been alot better ....i am really looking forward to flash rebirth on wednesday......any thought ???
jets4life242 2 years ago
Not really. I haven't read alot of Flash comics. I'm sad they depowered Wally tho. I liked him. I've never had any real conection to Barry given that I've not read much pre crisis with the flash in it.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
dark victory and lon halloween should have been one story ......i liked both
jets4life242 2 years ago
I think what really turned me off about Dark victory is I read it right after Lon gHalloween and I was excpeting somethign new. Not the same story. But on it's own it's pretty good. Not Long Halloween. But alright.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
there soo expensive .....i have the kingdom come one it was 75$ ......thats alot ......i think there all the same price
jets4life242 2 years ago
40 on amazon. I'm hoping to get ether Hush Absolute for my birthday.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
i agree the killing joke long halloween/dark victory and the dark knight returns is better.....but it was still a very exciting and thrilliing series ......it kept me on the edge of my seat (i never had a book do that)........and jim lees art is amazing ..............they are making a absoulte hush book .
jets4life242 2 years ago 2
They made it. I'm getting it.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
Hush trained by Deadshot? Hmmm...
The only thing good about this story is the appreciation you gain for it after reading Hush Returns. Anyways, you can't throw in every villain into a story, knowing it will be collected, and expect people to take every character series. This goes for all strories including the classics like Arkham Asylum and Long Halloween. Unlike the mentioned stories, however, Hush suffers from any plot worth reading at all.
Yanirakarola 2 years ago
I can't dissagree with that.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
The relationship between Batman And Catwoman is Definitely the one main reason why i Liked Hush So much.
slagmite 2 years ago
Yeah I though tthat was the most well written part.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
Btw...I think you are a really good reviewer...very unbiased and fair.
Keep the reviews coming ^^
Spawnz1810 2 years ago
Thanks alot.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
I guess the Year Long run on Batman: No Man's Land is still the best crossover story arc...
Jim Lee's art is great, perhaps for one major flaw...that is not being able to create a tense mood anywhere which he CLEARLY MENTIONED in the introduction so I dont blame him :)
And lastly, agreed that this book is alittle draggy, perhaps 1 TP will be enough...Jeph has the tendency of REPEATING speeches, whats happened before in the first few pages of the comic.
Spawnz1810 2 years ago
Idk if you've read the Dark tower comics. But those have a really tense mood. Of course it looks entirely diffrent from eerything else he's done.
blowshimselfupdude 2 years ago
it has cliché wirtten all over it, it is far too long and that even without a reason. 30% of the comic could easily have been cutted out and there would be no flawes in storytelling. you know from issue 2 on who hush is which makes it really repetitive to read in the first place. it's just the same old without ANYTHING new. that being said, i really don't like jim lee. i'm just not a fan of his style, he looks to clean, too sharp, too flawless without a real soul. typical 90's youngblood stuff.
batpawn 3 years ago
Yeah certainly not great.
blowshimselfupdude 3 years ago
hush is one of the few comicbooks i REALLY don't like... no... i almost HATE! hush might have been a decend comicbook back in the 80's where batman was reinvented as a dark and brooding character. for todays standards, it's just cliché. also this comic book would be really nice if jeph loeb just wouldn't have done the EXACT SAME STORY two times before (long halloween, dark victory). it's just so annoying to see that so many people love this comic when it really isn't that good.
batpawn 3 years ago
well I just want to say that I think your wrong about the Joker part of the story... sure Batman has thought about killing the Joker before... however in hush he was going to do it and the way he was thinking how he could do it was really well done...
LazerDude99 3 years ago
What about in A Death in The Family. He went through the same thing. And Superman stops him. And in the end of No Man's Land.
blowshimselfupdude 3 years ago
hey I haven't finished reading the No man's land series..... so don't spoil it for me... and in Death in that Family he wasn't over the jokers body thinking of horrible ways to kill him.... I mean in hush he says " I could pound his head into the pavement until his brains spilled out all over the sidewalk.... but I read Hush before Death in the Family so for me it was the first time... maybe that is why people like it better then you do... because it was new for them
LazerDude99 3 years ago
Oh sorry. Yeah it's probably that this was a jumping on point for alot of people. For someone like me. I've seen this done before. Alot.
blowshimselfupdude 3 years ago