Limo to Detroit, Part I

[poetrylost30]

jfk stinks as much as america blowing up their twin towers so baby bush can finish off his old mans work. And then know americans dont get done for war crimes, heil america, america uber alles.

[larry1369]

Thank you for the research on the JFK limo Mr. Weldon. It is very obvious the govt. was in full damage control mode after the hit. Contain the evidence, witnesses and media. They did a pretty effective job. Too bad for all of the patriotic witnesses who felt it was their duty to speak up only to be murdered by the govt. they were trying to preserve. I'm sure anyone who has studied this murder is struck by the number of witnesses killed.

[CommanderUTube]

I read that JFK and Nixon were the only two Presidents considered not members of the Secret Brotherhood.

I hope Obama is not a member of the Illuminati or whatever these people are called.

[SCGATOR2001]

a) LHO WAS ALLEGED TO HAVE bought the gun.

b) LHO was in the lunchroom minutes BEFORE the assassination and was in the lunchroom about 90 seconds AFTER the assassination.

c) LHO allegedly killed a policeman but he didn't have an automatic pistol, wrong weapon.

d) LHO was convicted in a mock trial by Vincent Bugliosi in the UK: Jerry Spence was an idiot to loose that trial, Bugliosi is an idiot across the board. Wait until you see the fool he makes of himself on HBO, coming soon!

[SCGATOR2001]

I don't wish anything but the truth to be known, and the truth is:

-LBJ ordered the killing of JFK

-Hoover altered evidence as necessary

-Dr's at Parkland & Bethesda saw the back of JFK's head blown out: indicates a frontal shot

-Warren Comm was a pathetic joke

-HSCA: that's info we don't know and don't want to know

-Media is incompetent especially fools like Bugliosi

-Both Lone Nutters like yourself AND Conspiracy "theorists" are hopelessly locked in silly argument like "wishing".

[grettoz]

@SCGATOR2001

way outa line blue....

[VinnyVoom444]

Here is all you need to know about cddraftsman, (aka: BigPapaShitz, aka: Mag30th, aka: pajasa62, aka: ninnydumbdumb, etc., etc., etc.). In short he is a lying disinformation agent, a delusional sociopath, and a simple gutless internet coward:

youtube dot com/watch?v=urNbQVFPUzU

watch?v=7vzIxkq9EEc

watch?v=XZWtsX2IZy8

And yes, Bob Harris reposted them. Enjoy!

[larry1369]

@VinnyVoom444 Thanks Vinny for the heads up on cddraftsman, I have wasted a lot of time explaining the facts to him about JFK murder. Finally I realized that he's just a shill and stopped wasting my time.

[buzzclick500]

@larry1369 : I fell into cddraftsman's "argument trap" for almost a week. I just consider the "lost time" as education revealing just how far trolls will go to keep anyone's attention.

[cdddraftsman]

found . The TSBD was searched and a rifle w/ shellFollow up : The lack of corroboration came when the area where echo's were heard was searched and nothing was casings was found . Some people were mistaken as to the source of the shots and others weren't . It's as simple as that . Those who want to convolute this simplicity into complexity are the true co-conspirators in JFK's death .

[cdddraftsman]

"ALL witnesses who reported having heard four or more shots"

8.7 % probably heard echos's . It's the duty of law enforcement to stimy rumor mongering not encourage it ! What you suggest is the opposite .

[cdddraftsman]

"BUT when you see a common theme"

Ya I see a commom theme alright - rewriting history for a authors 15 min. of fame . We can have history change every 15 min.'s to reflect who he hates the most . Sorry SCGATOR LBJ never wanted JFK's job , too many problems (Cost him 10 yrs. off his life) .

[cdddraftsman]

SCGATOR "Foolish" The pnly people that will be looked upon as foolish are people who embraced urban legends in place of historic truth . Many (75%) people wish conspiracy was true but now think it highly unlikely & are too embarrassed to admit they were conned by charlitons who have now been marginalized by their own greed and attempts at self glorification . Learn to live w/ it , you'll get over it hon .

[cdddraftsman]

To All :

Ever wonder wht the WC never called some witnesses ? One look at the primary sources v the Z-film and you've got your answer . The hardest part of any investigation is 'Winnowing the Wheat and the Chaff' . The greatest cause of miscarriage of justice in the US today is eye-witness testimony . It's no wonder everyone uses that type of evidence which has no value with out corroboration .

[SCGATOR2001]

Every witness in every investigation I've done gets something wrong, we aren't computers BUT when you see a common theme in many testimonies, then you pay attention. Huge common themes in the JFK case: Two shots, almost on top of each other. Another, the back of JFK's head was blown out. Understanding both of these observations leads directly to who killed JFK: LBJ with Hoover faking the evidence no, nothing else is possible.

[SCGATOR2001]

The Warren Commission didn't call many of the witnesses beause then they would have had to address many observations that were inconsistent with the Single Bullet "fantasy." Many wish that the single bullet theory was true, it's so easy and clean, unfortunately, it's not true. The government and people like you have hung your hats on keeping the truth hidden but history will look back on the past half century in bewilderment, how could "they" have been so foolish.

[SCGATOR2001]

Faulty memory and perceptions: possible explanations BUT John&Nellie Connally both said: John turned and looked left then turned right, then he was hit in the back, John:the force of the bullet bent me over: consistent statements that are INCONSISTENT with single bullet THEORY but are VERY consistent with John being shot AFTER JFK's head shot.

[cdddraftsman]

As JBC comes from behind the sign his lapel flips up , his right shoulder dips , his cheeks puff out , he's obviously been hit as he trys to use his right arm to cover his torn open chest . This is all consistent w/ the SBT.

[SCGATOR2001]

Unfortunately for your argument Connally turns to look over his right shoulder before he is shot in the back 5 secs later. No reasonable person could possibly believe JBC could turn like that with a serious chest wound. Connally's lapel bounces out because he raises his arms in response to a shot. NOT all of Connally's wounds were caused by the bullet to his back.

[cdddraftsman]

Lee Bowers:

Said he saw a cop who "rode a motorcycle up the grassy knoll . Copious photographic evidence from Dealey Plaza that day shows he did no such thing.

S.M. Holland:

Who thought that after Kennedy was shot Jackie "jumped up & tried to get over in the back seat to him ."

William Newman:

Who thought that the President, after the 1st shot rang out, "jumped up in his seat" & "was standing up."

Testimony Taken :

The Day Of The Assassination!

[cdddraftsman]

To : SCGATOR2001 "LBJ is the ONLY man with enough power to filtered the witness testimony"

I have some bad news for you . Witness testimony didn't need JEH to make it worthless . Eye-Witness testimony not only

contradicted other witnesses , many times it contradicted itself :-( Sad face by conspiracy believers .

[cdddraftsman]

The most precise tabulation to date , from the HSCA , here are the results : Direction of shots : 53.8 % TSBD ( Concures w/ WCR ) 33.7 % grassy knoll 4.8 % 2 directions 7.7 % other Number of shots : 76.7 % 3 Shots exactely (Concures w/ WCR ) 10.5 % 1 or 2 shots 8.7 % 4 or more 4.1 % 2 or 3 Shots

[cdddraftsman]

Witnesses looked up and saw two rifle barrels"

No witness said any such thing on the day of the asaassination , it's not in any of the primary sources . You made that up .

[Taranau]

ALL witnesses who reported having heard four or more shots were told by "authorities" that they had heard three shots and echoes.Witnesses on the 2nd and 3rd floors of the SBD who looked up and saw two rifle barrels sticking out of windows on the 6th floor were told they were either mistaken or had seen an illusion similar to a mirage. This does NOT sound like the proper way to investigate a crime.

[SCGATOR2001]

If you believe the windshield was replaced, then you know who killed Kennedy, agree? I asked that earlier, agree? Well, LBJ is the ONLY man with enough power to pull off this BS. Hoover as FBI director filtered the witness testimony. There were TWO shots from the front, Three from the TSBD.

[Taranau]

And the fatal headshot,fired from behind and to the left,at a time when TSBD was behind and to the right and a shot from the grassy knoll would likely have hit Jackie's right arm.Watch Zapruder,at the time of the headshot,the knoll is right behind the camera and Jackie's arm is right behind John's head from that point.I think Mr. Dulles pulled THAT trigger! It's just a hunch though.

[SCGATOR2001]

The fatal head shot to JFK was from the front and JFK is knocked back and to his left. Less than a second later, at Z frame 325, the SHOT from the TSBD misses JFK's HEAD which was knocked back and to the left toward Jackie, instead the TSBD shot hits Connally in the back, driving him forward. Look at Zframe 325, Connally's head snaps DOWN starting then.

[Taranau]

I used to be in the military.I was in what was euphimistically called Sales and Delivery. Combat Scenarios would occasionally present themselves and I would find myself in the position of having to shoot someone. Several were the times I shot someone thru the head from great distance. With confidence,I can honestly say that what happens to the front of JFK's head is an exit wound.A shot from the front would have blown the back of his head off and he would have slumped over onto Connaly.

[Taranau]

According to eyewitness reports,the FBI and Dallas police immediately discredited,three or four shots were fired from in front. People reported bullets hitting the grass behind and to the left of the limo, as well as another bullet hitting the curb on the roadside.When lining the impact on the curb with the limo at that time,THAT shot HAD to have come from the grassy knoll.

[Taranau]

Neat trick.Fixing the windshield on a car that had been burned on the tarmac in Dallas.And why transport the car to Detroit when it coul've been repaired locally?This is neat stuff though.Apparently some conspiracies are undertaken to discredit other conspiracies.

[SCGATOR2001]

This is just one part of overall plan to FOOL the press to fool you. The hole in the windshield proves that one shot was from the front, the windshield had to be replaced, and it was. It couldn't have been done locally as they couldn't have done it quickly enough. If you believe the windshield was replaced, then you know who killed Kennedy, agree?