RCMP arrest man for not being able to prduce Id

[cliffjumperw]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!

[ltonyl86]

kudos to you mate for standing up for your rights...police = NAZIS

[greggh]

There was a time in this country when it was fine to talk to an officer if they approached you. That time has passed. They are now trained to harass and arrest as many people as possible. They get bonus points for more detentions and more arrests. The only safe thing to do now if a cop approaches is to start walking away. If they "ask" you to stay, immediately say, "am I free to go." If they say no, identify yourself if they request it, and then say, "I invoke my right to remain silent."

[PHANTOMSLAYER7]

If you had been black, they would have murdered you.

[PHANTOMSLAYER7]

Sorry about your ordeal. Yahuah will be taking care of these evil doers soon enough.

[skwid12]

i cant find that document

[Bos2ist]

With all due respect. I know we have cops with mental issues everywhere. Some should not be cops at all!! However, the way acted doesn't excuse you either. If everyone does what you do...then we have the the wild west atmosphere. I prefer to deal with a few nut cases, rather than thousands like you and that cop. Also, you seem so full of yourself that it gets in your way of reasoning.

[Lean540]

@Bos2ist , sorry Bo, you are wrong on this one.

He didn't run, all he wanted to know is what they wanted the id for. They shoul have answered and the situation would be neutralized.

[jgig22]

and canadians

[jgig22]

americans are slaves

[crightthruu]

Very dangerous times we live in. Never give up the right to bear arms.

[snarky77005]

Next time get the cop on video.

[wavejumpinseadoo]

You could have handled the situation better IMO. Look at it from his perspective, he was called to a supposed break and enter and two guys are out front loading a van, of course he's going to be suspicious! I would be glad that the RCMP would show up for a reported B&E, it means my home and belongings are safe. You were a suspect in a crime, therefore he had the right to detain you. He wasn't going to leave you while he goes to talk to the landlord, you could have run off if you were a burglar!

[themrbradster1]

You do not know where the complaint came from, clearly it was not your neighbours. If the RCMP are responding to a complaint then they are there lawfully and they are not abliged to inform you of that reason. Because it was a B&E you loading the van gives them reasonable grounds to detain you to investigate they want ID to confirm that it is your property and you are who you say you are. You don't have to comply but then you are obstructing. Save it for court next time, you also get disclosure

[2BSovereign]

@themrbradster1 Actually I do know where the complaint came from! There wasn't one. In the real world the "police" are obliged to inform you of their reasons, unless of course you believe that tyranny is a viable source of governance. I don't, we also have challenged the validity and therefore the authority of the federal government of Canada and have as of yet not recieved any proof that the government of CANADA is operating lawfully. How can they hire a private millitary force to police us

[Toblerown1]

@2BSovereign Police are not required to provide complainants names while conducting an investigation. In court it is required. You have a right to know all the evidence gathered against you. But until an information is laid and you are formally charged Police do not need to disclose a complainant to you, to protect that person. A person can make a request to find that information out through the Access to information Act.

[musicfeeds]

@themrbradster1 It's typical of most police to make statements contrary to fact. When an officer stops you without cause which means stating why you were stopped, you are free to leave. Asking for ID without cause is illegal since the officer can't prove the person has committed a crime or is about to.That cop could have easily ran the address to get his name if he was so concerned, since this guy said he lived there, Bully with a badge is typical behaviour of the RCMP.

[swsympatico4]

@themrbradster1 He offered to go to the landlord place. I believe that would solve the problem. Don’t forget that the cops are brainwashed/trained to think that there is a law a statute that will back-up their action.

[TheAcezapper]

The purpose of this section is to make it clear that the Charter only applies to governments, and not to private individuals, businesses or other organizations.

you are not a trustee

[seapeddler]

The tag on the back of the underwear should be sufficient I.D. Anything other than Hanes, Stanfields, Denver Hayes, etc. would be suspicious.

[10minutedox]

What eventually happened with the case?

[2BSovereign]

@10minutedox A few weeks later the called to tell me that the pta (promise to appear) had been cancelled. 

[Toblerown1]

If an officer has a reasonable suspicion that someone may be about to commit, is committing or has committed an offense. The officer can detain that person to conduct an investigation into the offense. The fact they are responding to a break and enter at this location and this guy is loading stuff into a vehicle is more than enough to satisfy a reasonable suspicion. When detained or arrested you are required to provide name and DOB - usually confirmed by ID.

[2BSovereign]

@Toblerown1 What your saying is that if a cop drives by your house and you are loading your things into a vehicle then he has the right to demand id from u? It later came out that he was investigating a complaint from a neighbor, none of my neighbors complained nor did he even attempt to enter into a dialogue with me. Produce Id or your arrested! Show me the law that says I am obliged to carry government issued id! I am not government property so I refuse to be identified as such!

[Toblerown1]

First off, in my response I said detain. There's a difference in detainment and arrest. To detain someone an officer needs to have a reasonable suspicion, to arrest you need reasonable grounds. Going on only your side of the story, I don't think there were ground to arrest you, and demand you ID yourself; however there was certainly grounds to detain you and conduct an investigation.

[Toblerown1]

@2BSovereign Second, Criminals are smart. If an officer drives up on scene and lays everything they know out and explains everything of why they are there, it makes it alot easier for that criminal to make up a lie. Sovereign / Freeman are a very small % of the ppl who don't carry ID... most, from my experience are ppl with warrants or are hiding something. 

[WFSCAOCanada]

@Toblerown1 There is a problem with your reasoning... The information you claim is required is nothing but hearsay. You have no first hand knowledge of this information. You cannot SWEAR under OATH that the info is true and correct or you would be lying.

One CANNOT be obligated to provide information that they KNOW they cannot SWEAR is truth.

[Toblerown1]

@WFSCAOCanada What information is hearsay? The complaint of a break and enter was from a neighbor that is first hand knowledge.  And even if it wasn't first hand and it was hearsay ... its still a complaint and there is public expectation to investigate the complaint. If police didn't respond they would not being doing their job to serve and protect. If you're talking about something else that is hearsay ... you don't know what hearsay is ...

[WFSCAOCanada]

@Toblerown1 There is a problem with your reasoning... The information you claim is required is nothing but hearsay. You have no first hand knowledge of this information. You cannot SWEAR under OATH that the info is true and correct or you would be lying.

One CANNOT be obligated to provide information that they KNOW they cannot SWEAR is truth.

[2BSovereign]

I'm still waiting to hear his response to what their justification for governing us is if it's not from our consent. For all those watching now, and for those who don't get it yet...."I don't consent!"

[Owlmon]

Asking them for anything in their charge including the property of the law allowing them to do their illegal acts is defined under 337 of the criminal code....That section is the whole reason they came up with the freedom of Information Act...It is called basit and switch....To many officers going to jail!!

[deanomac24]

i was un able to find the other video. i wanted to know what happened next. i hope u sued them good for u for standing ur ground.

[Kevdak]

@cowboy9mmca This trick gets it in with everyone I see :P Use protection with this one.

[Kevdak]

@ForTheDefence78 Okay little girl whatever you say! They're not insults. I don't beat women, so I don't care to fight you. None the less you're bringing a weapon to a fight, which is a pussy move. I don't now, nor will I ever need a weapon to beat you. So stop talking all this trash like you're going to do something. How about you come on over to Canada if you're such a tough woman. I'm sorry your country has horrid medical care and you're jealous of that fact. Later Trick! <3

[ForTheDefence78]

@Kevdak

Of course you won't you little Canadian cooze.

There was never any question in my mind that you'd prove to be a pussy.

Come see you in Canada?

What's your home address sweet pea?

I suspect more pussy excuses are on their way.

BYE!

[Kevdak]

@ForTheDefence78 God you never stop lol. Come to Cornwall, Ontario. I never knew I was your sweet pea. You're too cute! <3 Don't leave me hanging like Cinderella at the ball. I hope to see you soon, trick!

[ForTheDefence78]

@Kevdak

Cornwall, Ontario is not an address you stupid cunt.

Give me your home address darling.

[Kevdak]

@ForTheDefence78 Woh, I think you'll need to buy me dinner or something before I give out my address. What's your address? Maybe we could be pen pals? Lah you trick! <3

[cowboy9mmca]

So let me understand this....you were in your vehicle and asked to step out. The officer then asked you for I.D. but you later stated that you didn't have any Gov't I.D to provide. So you didn't or don't have a drivers license? Under the Motor Vehicle Act you are required to provide Identification upon request if you are in behind the drivers seat of a motor vehicle. As for your " scuffle " with the officer I question that.

[2BSovereign]

@755aaron secondly, if that were the case then how did I get the paperwork that I showed you on the last vid Bozo?

[Kevdak]

Following what you're saying: You were not under arrest, you'd just been detained. Seeing how you didn't comply then you'd be arrested for obstruct a peace officer, and you said you threw two of them to the ground to that's an assault a peace officer charge. No you couldn't have disarmed the officer, so don't get over yourself. The worst thing for you is: YOU WERE IN A MOTOR VEHICLE AND MUST SHOW ID WHEN ASKED UNDER THE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC ACT. 

[Novanova22]

Part of: Notice of Understanding and Intent And Claim of Right! ( Add this to it! )

Whereas it is my understanding that in the: Canadian Criminal Code, Sections: 34-37, A unlawful arrest IS a unlawful assault! Whereas if no crime was committed or witnessed, I claim the right and duty to defend myself against all those that are attempting to police or govern me without my consent!

[rickliam]

Oh I just saw the last part of your video. I wrote too fast. I agree a lil bit with you for the first part. I just disagree for not sitting 2 minutes in their car and its done. And the second you pushed them and make them fall or anything you were automatically wrong.

[2BSovereign]

@rickliam In order for me to sit in his car would mean that I would have had to give up my freedom, while I was on my pirvate property no less so that they could determine whether or not I belonged there. In my opinion they didn't have the right to be there and when I asked them to demonstrate it they wouldn't so I defended myself. I was fully in my right to do so.  The legal department also knows it and that's why they dropped the charges. If I pursue I could recieve for damages.

[rickliam]

@2BSovereign bah you should know by now that we are in a society and freedom is a nice big word but think about it for a sec. It doesn,t exist. Not the way you fantasize it. I find it sad but it comes with society and having to control a huge mass of people. Not everyone is a good person and if you were the cop and saw so many things you would not believe a guy just cause he says so. So I guess for me you were both wrong and both have your reasons. You dont live the same realities that,s all.

[rickliam]

I'm not sure I get it right. So they have a complaint and want to make sure you live there yet you refuse to prove it ? You say they had evidence you lived there but how? And that they didnt tell you why they were there but they did? And this sovereign thingy intrigates me what is it? You can decide to have no id ever? How about driver license etc? I'm curious cause I never heard of that. I'm in Qc by the way. The RCMP isnt here. I'd like to know why too while at it.

[2BSovereign]

@rickliam I'll address the Sovereign issue here only as you have already corrected your first few questions above. Sovereignty is a very confusing subject for many people and cannot be hanled in 420 characters. Basically if you don't like the laws or their application of your country you have the internationally accepted riight to "self determination" , essentially setting up your own country (no you don't require land" and it's laws then you enter into treaty with other nations.

[canadainbeacon]

@poitrenaud ,,,,,,, this is a true story i used to work with the RCMP, U.S CUSTOMS, JUSTICE DEPT,, He is correct in what he is saying about ID

[poitrenaud]

Keep in mind, that this is the same RCMP that is PROHIBITED by their Liberal, nanny pandy state from Asking an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT living in Canada, for his ID-

If a Toronto Policeman, or OPP, or Federal Officer(RCMP) asks a Vietnamese, Malaysian, Jamaican or Middle Eastern for their ID, the would not dare-

BUT to harass and threaten a Home-Grown Canadian, particularly a caucasian,

that is fine! Open Season on Home Grown White Canadians-

Your Canada is a Nanny State-

Sad state of affairs

[2BSovereign]

@poitrenaud sadly for your diatribe... I'm not white! And this is not about race but I don't really believe that you are smart enough to figure that out.

[DaliaDawn]

Actually you have every right to defend yourself on your private property when under attack by unidentified assailants. That is the law. That was false arrest and will never stand up in court. These bully policy officers are way out of control.

[zjk911]

i fully understand my rights and unfortunately if you don't like the rules and charter in Canada then get the hell out!! you say you are standing up for your rights but by assaulting a police officer i would have no issue if they baton'd you, tazered you and beat the heck outta you... you have no right to refuse to cooperate with their investigation. you are a mere citizen and it is not up to you to determine the investigation. if you disagree go to court because that's why we have courts.

[2BSovereign]

@zjk911 It is exactly that kind of idiocy that has canada where it is to day! I don't like the rules and charter and so I have left, hence my Sovereign status. This is my land not the queens land, if you want to be her subject so stinking bad then you go to England and be one of her subjects, she is not welcome here. Her authority as well as the authority of her lawless defacto cowboys is not recognized here either.

Everyone has the right to know why a cop is asking question.

[MrBiejos]

@2BSovereign Right on man, right on!!! Please share the names of the notices you sent to be a sovereign; this would help me as well as other good Canadians who do not wish to be part of the fraud perpetuated by Canada Inc.

[zjk911]

regardless if you think an arrest is lawful or not.. Criminal Code of Canada does not allow you to resist arrest or assault a Police Officer. If you feel the arrest is unlawful you complain and force the public complaint commission for charge the Police with assault. you are lucky you didn't get tazered and shit-kicked

[2BSovereign]

@zjk911 You can go ahead and comply with a foreign belligerent mercenary force that has absolutely no authority whatsoever to force compliance on the people of this country if you want too. I on the other hand will continue to stand up for my rights (and yours too) and expose these SOB's with every opportunity that is made available to me. All they had to do was tell me why they were there. Also, the insistence that anyone carry and produce gov't ID is criminal! It's not ID!

[Probesoul]

Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms “Legal Rights” Section 7 to 14. These officers violated every section (7 to 14) under "Legal Rights"

[lilshook1]

@2BSovereign freedom of information act gives you the video! YOUTUBE SEARCH this video title below. link at 4:00 and you will see how to obtain what you are looking for. good luck.

Into The Fire - Dan Dicks on The Corbett Report

[lporiginalg]

Ya dude the cops confronted me in a park in Montreal for having my dog off leash, they demanded to see ID, when I asked why they said to give me a ticket, I told them they didn't need to see any ID to provide me a ticket and after about two minutes of back and forth over that issue they violently arrested me, without ever asking me my name. I told them I had no ID and they arrested me, violently of course. My trial is June 10 if your interested in the outcome get in touch.

[Joerenfrew]

The cops were stalking you. Thats why they drove past twice. If they had a complaint then the would have come straight into the driveway.

[jacmunbong]

happens2me all the time.out front of my own apartment.more than one time.once at gunpoint.4no reason

[ebhegerat]

I too would love to know what happened next.... for my story runs several years. Send me the video or communicate the happening: stillhere99@hotmail.com

[2BSovereign]

@ebhegerat The next vid is up, sorry that it has taken so long to get it up.

[earthstewardude]

RCMP belong to an international fraternity of thugs who get away with this shit because few have the guts to do what you did. The day is coming when these thugs will have mobs of people taking them down. Hitler and his thugs were eventually put down and the RCMP will end up in the same place. Get more people to hear your story and sue the fuckers! Fucking punks would not get away with that in a cage fight with real tough fuckers!

[rawbchristwhy]

@earthstewardude - To be clear Hitler and his thugs spent a happy retirement watching the fruits of theirs and their masters labours in the good ole USA! In fact most of the western world is now subject to it, as Ray in the video can attest...how do you like it?

[2BSovereign]

@rawbchristwhy Remember lest we forget?

I think we have forgotten! Didn't we we go through two world wars to prevent just this kind of tyranny? What the hell has happened to people that they are so willing to commit these kind of violations? And worse it the fact that so many of us are willing to tolerate it! If you won't defend your neighbors when it happens to them then you shouldn't complain when they come for you and no one is left to help you! JMHO

[rawbchristwhy]

@2BSovereign - Would have been good if that was the real reason for creating those wars.............seems the opposite is true though and those wars only expanded tyranny. Now it's defended as the staus quo, how dare you get in the way of my slave benefits!!! Take the Gov. away and people will beg to get f**ked by something else! People fear autonomy! People fear themselves!!!

[bweazel]

Where's the next upload? I want to know what they told you when you got to the station. Dude, sue them. Make them produce the complaint.

[bweazel]

Sue those assholes.

[Dcatsmeow]

THIS is wrong. He never bothered to do what he should have done. How can he handcuff someone for being on his own land

When I looked up RCMP it brought this up (which has since been deleted.

THIS alone tells me how screwed up they are. THIS is not a justifiable thing to do with a 6 month old baby. YouTube - RCMP Pepper Spray infant

Jul 3, 2007 ... RCMP goons say they were "justified" in pepper spraying several people, including a 6 month old baby after a "routine traffic stop".

[jerwar68]

Robert Menard teaches to be a sovereign.

Look up his Youtube channel for those of you that don't know him.

His channel is mrmitee‬‏

[2BSovereign]

@jerwar68 I know Rob, his teachings are primarily about being a freeman on the land and he does not approach the sovereignty issure with any great depth. I support Rob but strongly feel that recapturing our sovereignty is the key to ultimate freedom.

[Hailtherand]

Thanks for posting this,i am glad you where not shot or killed by these R.C.M.P. officers.We all need to stand up to these people and exercise our rights as citizens.The R.C.M.P. needs to be held accountable for their actions people are getting sick and tired of the way they are abused and threatened by them.They are renewing a 25 year contract soon ,they need to be accountable to us and charged in these type of situations not awarded more work

[2BSovereign]

@Hailtherand Ya, I'm glad I wasn't shot either!

We do need to stand up and as much as possible, do it together. You'll probably hear me say this a few times but in the law of nations, a people are deemed to be consenting unless they revolt. So if we don't like our defacto authority then we can and should be revolting. Resisting and complaining are just the beginning!

[jaba987]

this dude has balls

[MountThor]

You can charge the two officers with false arrest, obstruction of justice, assault causing bodily harm when they attacked you multiple times, multiple assault causing bodily harm charges each time you asked them to release the hand cuffs and they didn't, making false statements, telling lies, violating their duty to protect and server (especially the second officer who should have protected you from the first officer), failure to tell you whey they where arresting you, ... take em down.

[ezze902]

It would have been easier to cooperate than put up a fight. As far as he is concerned your a suspect... What you should look into is the complaint to see if anyone actually made a complaint and who. If they cant produce anyone it was a lie and its completely wrong. Good luck , it sounds like they were in the wrong.

[2BSovereign]

@ezze902 Your right it would have been easier. but what would that do? we need to expose their tyrany as well as their lack of authority. They ( at least at the top) know that they don't have any which is wy the force/ naked agression against unarmed innocent people. We don't live in natzi germany and there is to law obliging me to carry id anywhere except while driving!

[ezze902]

@2BSovereign We do for the next 4 years (Harper Majority) ... If your suspected of a crime, the Police cant take your word for it, is what I am saying... and theres always two sides of a story.

[W4llyB4nger]

Fucking Pigs. They are the enemies of freedom. Under trained, unqualified, power hungry morons with guns.

You were 100% right, you are not required to produce ID. This is not Nazi Germany or communist Russia.

That said, the only thing you accomplished by resisting arrest is getting yourself hurt. I bet throwing those cocksuckers around felt pretty damn good though!

[2BSovereign]

@W4llyB4nger Thanks for your reply and support. This is not Nazi Germany...papers pleze. Our forefathers fought (supposedly) two world wars to prevent exactly this kind of tyranny, yet here we have it.

I think that one of the things that I did accomplish is that I let them know that I'm not going to take it anymore. A people are deemed to be consenting unless they are revolting (law of nations) I am revolting, no more of this crap. If more of us did this they would get the message.

[angryadrien]

I go past this home every week. If you wouldn't mind sharing the case details (ie. what the cops are claiming, if there really was a complaint, etc) let me know, thanks.

[2BSovereign]

@angryadrien the second part will be uploaded soon. so far they have not produced the complaint but in fairness they did leave a message for me to call back so maybe they are going to give me some more info. doubt it tho.

[angryadrien]

@2BSovereign thanks for the quick reply. I hope they are honest and up front with you.

I'm looking forward to watching part 2

[BCBudder87]

We're living in some crazy times. I hope it all turns around real soon.

[2BSovereign]

@BCBudder87 The only hope of it ever turning around is for all (or at least a majority) of us to get active in a change. We have to start complaining loudly with one voice!

[wudidiz]

The nerve damage should go away in 6 weeks. Hope you're okay.

[Givemeafinname]

Do not back down take it all the way to court.

Everyone who watches this video should be outraged and send angy emails to the Langly RCMP thugs. This shit has to stop! You are NOT required to produce ID to a police officer or anyone unless you are driving a car. If you do not have ID there are other ways you can identify who you are if you are arrested..Where is the other part of this Video?

[2BSovereign]

@Givemeafinname Never going to back down. I'm not sure their court is the answer tho. I may have to convene a court of my own as a soverign man and assert my sovereignty!

Second part comming very soon. Sorry for the delay.

[2BSovereign]

@Givemeafinname Never going to back down. I'm not sure their court is the answer tho. I may have to convene a court of my own as a soverign man and assert my sovereignty!

Second part comming very soon. Sorry for the delay.

[2BSovereign]

@Givemeafinname Never going to back down. I'm not sure their court is the answer tho. I may have to convene a court of my own as a soverign man and assert my sovereignty!

Second part comming very soon. Sorry for the delay.

[2BSovereign]

@Givemeafinname Never going to back down. I'm not sure their court is the answer tho. I may have to convene a court of my own as a soverign man and assert my sovereignty!

Second part comming very soon. Sorry for the delay.

[shallow2]

Good for you Ray you stood your ground , had the better of them if it hadent been for the gun ! Good luck for the RCMP trying to prosecute you they dont have grounds.

Your pretty hot by the way !

[Scratchmakerdude]

More people need to takke these thugs to task...use their own system against them.... everyone needs to be doing this....

[Scratchmakerdude]

Also you said you had witnesses.... you will need them and you need to get a doctor to see hand...get documentation of injury and keep up on the checking of hand. They are guilty of a crime...but because they have the gov behind them you will need all your ducks in order....

[Scratchmakerdude]

Make sure you issue a Statement of Claim for unlawful arrest, forcible confinement and assault etc.... Look for the section of Criminal Code that states you are within your right to defend yourself against unlawful assault. Maybe section 35...cant remember right now ( presuming this is canada

[FeverIAm]

@28Sovereign I am glad there are people who choose to stand up in the face of tyranny.

Peace and Love

[Scratchmakerdude]

1. On your own property you have the right to tell him to get off of your property immediately. Tell him he is trespassing and not welcome.

2. Don't get into dialogue...remeber " Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you

3 He was not in the execution of his duty ... a,) he failed to give a reason for his presence b.) he has no right under any code, legislation or law to arbitrarily detain you (especially on your own property).

[TheCurtisnixon]

DUDE. thats fucked up man...not surprising...that could have gone either way, and i'm glad you had the courage to deal with it as you did. worthless p.e.o.n's

[r3d3r3d3r3d3]

Actually, in Canada, you are required to provide ID or your name and address to a police officer if he asks you.

[FeverIAm]

@r3 A free person is not required to provide proof of innocence or identity. You have bought into the lies of this world. The police are required to ascertain proof of a crime; and not presume guilt. When they come to your door will you simply 'comply'? If yuou do then you are a fool and do not deserve freedom.

I suspect you REALLY need to study the law; and understand that you are innocent until proven guilty. Many people have died for your right to comment on this video, Think about it.

[peckerwood321]

@r3d3r3d3r3d3 No you are not obligated to provide any ID except when in the course of a criminal investigation. I challenge to provide a statute or law that backs your statement.

[r3d3r3d3r3d3]

@peckerwood321 The police officer, by the OP's own account, said that he was suspected of B&E.

[peckerwood321]

@r3d3r3d3r3d3 That isn't enough to warrant an ID check. He has to be able to validate it either by a file number allocated to a specific investigation or follow up with charges where the court decides if his suspicion was enough to warrant an arrest. He can arrest the man for suspicion, but simply asking for ID is not warranted in such a case without further investigation on the cop's part, specifically pertaining to a detachment investigation

[NatureChasing]

You talking about it, isn't the same as having the video. Worthless, sorry.

[FeverIAm]

@NatureChasing as in all things; there are two sides to every story. Prejudice (the real meaning of the word - pre-justice; i.e. before trial) to the events is hypocirsy. You can choose to believe either side; however you need to hear both sides (and judge the authenticity of each impartially) before coming to your decision. I cannot find the police's statements as to this event; therefore I have only one man's word

[NatureChasing]

@FeverIAm Exactly and that's it in a nutshell, it was a heartfelt story but a story is just a story, and its also from a perspective, if you're watching a video of the event, there is no perspective its what is happening before your eyes. I do feel bad for the man, but he's not going to win any battles with this video.

[abciance]

@NatureChasing I don't think its worthless, its actually pretty interesting

[NatureChasing]

@abciance Exactly, and that's all it will ever be is a story.

[jordandoh]

Way to go bud, Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the rest of the story at the police station. Shine On Brother!

[fightthefuture08]

bad ass. you are a brave man sir. Good job for standing up for your rights, its a damn shame what is happening to this country.

[FeverIAm]

@fightthefuture08 It happens way too often; and often the victims do not speak out!

[peckerwood321]

The only time that ID is mandated is in the course of an investigation...no investigation with a proper file number, then no ID can be demanded. Simple

[JonB83]

@peckerwood321 how is this true? If you're pulled over for a traffic violation you must produce ID. You need to produce ID to purchase certain items or go into certain venues. You need ID to go across the border, to get on a plane, sometimes with a credit card or cheque. None of these are investigations...

[peckerwood321]

@JonB83 If you are pulled over the Officer must indicate for what reason and he must provide three pieces of ID before continuing to act as a Police Officer. The ID check in this case is due to the stipulations provided for in the motor vehicle act of which you signed for when you applied for a license. As for purchasing certain items, some items pose a threat to public safety, same with venues and protecting innocence.

[peckerwood321]

@JonB83 Going across a border has to do with the other country's requirements, not our own. Getting on a plane is questionable at this time due to it being a private transaction, but companies can stipulate the requirements within the contract as can you. They can also deny service. Most of the ID checks in this country are due to private contractual matters. But for a police officer(which is the topic at hand) he has limitations that include an ongoing investigation

[JonB83]

@peckerwood321 you've tried coming back into Canada without ID?

[gepisar]

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[KamiOwnzYou]

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