be on guard people i too was a victim of psychiatry drove me to suicide. the labelling is as much a problem as any left me hopeless and along with the lack of empathy the drugs created lead to suicide attempts.
Its the same story over and over.....someone needs to start a foundation of people who have been lied to and destroyed by medication when they went to doctors in good faith seeking help....there are millions of us ....and we are all passionate about it.....that pain they but us through so non-chalantly guarantees that......and they are gonna do it to millions more..if we dont
Its the only "disease" that "doctors" dont have to do any test to proof exists.......and give you horrible medication that will cripple you for life and has a more painful withdrawal then herion in a single visit with a smile....then never see you again
Having spent four months on a psychiatry ward in the capacity of a medical doctor I am in a unique position to objectively see how it works from the perspective of that of the practitioner. I want to iterate that I'm not a psychiatrist but I did have some psychiatry training in recognising mental health illnesses and disorder management.
Obviously sebkarlsson is not who or what he says he is. Blood tests have nothing to do with determining if a person has a "chemical imbalance". AKSBSU is correct in that that term is a dumbed down way of explaining the situation to the masses. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that has many other functions other than it's perceived role in mood. Bottom line, too many doctors (not psychologists) are prescribing drugs for psychological issues, see my next post for more on why...
@jhuffman2424 I think you're exactly correct and one does not have to be a scientist of any type to see the flaws in the arguments used to justify the use of neuroleptics. I can't stand psychiatry or psychiatrists. These medical sell outs, who abandoned all their training for money, are damaging the minds of poor souls in need of care. The drugs they Rx are addictive and toxic. The drugs they use cause dysfunction; TD for example. The 1990's WHO studies showed recovery without meds. WTF
For the reasoning behind the over-use of drugs for treatment of mental issues, you don't have to look any farther than Big Pharma (the pharmaceutical companies). Drugs for depression, schizophrenia, anxiety based disorders, bi-polar disorder, and pretty much any others have become big business for Big Pharma, to the tune of the top 5 pharmaceutical companies turning a higher profit than any other industry in America. And yes, specifically an American issue!
You don't give blood tests to diagnose depression. The brain operates through a complex array of chemical interactions. Calling it a "chemical imbalance" is a simplification to help the average person conceptualize something they have limited knowledge of. There is absolutely a robust foundation of peer-reviewed literature linking mood to serotonin and other neurotransmitters and hormones.
@AKSBSU: blood tests are just an for-instance when it comes to physically and medically diagnosing a mental illness: which has not been done. Just because mood is linked to Seratonin or any other examples you could mention it doesn't take away from the fact either that these drugs are there to suppress symptoms rather than cure anything.
@sebkarlsson Etiology, symptoms, ect. varies by individual mental illness, but in general with anxiety and mood disorders one usually finds both cognitive/behavioral and physiological components. Medication is especially useful with high severity. Individuals suffering from agoraphobia, social phobia, or severe major depressive disorder may be unwilling or unable emotionally to even participate in therapy without a relief of their current symptoms. Even sitting in the waiting room is traumatic.
@AKSBSU of course the etiology will vary wildly and widely, that to me is stating the obvious isn't it? Psychiatry certainly has it's roots in taming/treating/hiding those with extreme mental health problems, hence they got away with so much barbarism in their institutions for so long. Society doesn't except the extreme cases and generally just wants them gone. As much as I could sympathize with those, it's the MAJORITY that are over-medicated when there are far better solutions.
@sebkarlsson It's quite obvious to me, as I've spent quite a bit of time studying neuropharmacology, but it doesn't seem quite so obvious to you based on your comments. I'd also be interested in knowing which statistics you're citing. You need some numbers to get a majority of anything. Based on the resources I use, peer-reviewed scientific journals, counseling and medication combined tend to yield the most favorable outcomes. What resources are you using to draw your conclusions?
Ideally, I personally prefer a team-based approach for dealing with severe mental illness. I make a concerted effort to maintain open communication between myself, the patient, other medical and mental health professionals. This requires professionals with advanced training and credentials to check their egos much of the time and take the time to listen to others, which can admittedly be a challenge for many individuals in these fields, but I think it yields the best results.
@AKSBSU You're a Psychiatrist yourself? How do you feel your field is doing? What makes you watch this and presumably other videos like this and how do you feel about so many critisisms against Psyh. these days?
@sebkarlsson No, I'm not a psychiatrist. My field is psychology. More specifically, it's neuropsychology. I have worked with plenty of neurologists and psychiatrists, as well as a wide variety of other types of health and mental health professionals.
I welcome constructive, valid criticisms of my field and other fields. The topic of my dissertation was validating an assessment of emotional status. I'm considered by my peers to be quite aggressive in demanding empirical support.
@dstp91 Because for years I've seen what it can do to people. It's so rare that I hear from someone who it has helped and then it's usually someone who's just started a drug and may not notice side-effects or the addiction yet. Just look at all the posts on my very few videos from people who have suffered from Psych drugs...
I stand against drugs seen as a solution for the masses and psycho-surgery and ECT. That's it.
This is a fraud and only a violent fraud. There's no medical evidence of any bio-chemical imbalnce someone is supposed to have in his/her brain. No behaviuor or misbehaviour is a disease.
I had a similar experience with Celexa. I had no idea what was going on I began to freak out and went through a series of rapid intense emotional affects of fear, rage, nausea, grief, and hilarity, then back again through the cycle. I had no idea what was going on. These drugs are extremely dangerous.
Actually ppl are forced to take psychotropic drugs and sometimes even take ect's. Mainly kids are forced into taking drugs. Foster kids are especially susceptible to being forced to be on psychotropic medications. Psychiatry is not a science at all. The DSM is developed by psychiatrists voting in on symptoms presenting as diagnosis. There are no biological tests.
Medication is a joke and the chemical imbalance is a joke. Shame on drug companies and doctors. I was a victim of the crap medications that dumb doctors prescribe and I'm not taking that crap anymore. You have to take control of your life and trust your own instincts not the doctors. FIGHT BACK DAME IT.
There's no such thing as a "chemical imbalance" in the brain. Even some psychiatrits said that on other youtube videos. And it's nothing like a diabetis person who needs insulin a bipolar person needs there meds. that's another lame ass thing those quacks I use to trust told me. I always wondered why they called psychiatrists "shrinks" cause that's all they are. And that's what exactly they did to me! RUINED MY LIFE.
@starseedleo . I don't think many people completely blame Psychiatry, since Big Pharma is very culpable. There's not doubt that there are Psychiatrists who do as you say and go for counseling first but there are also a large number that medicate at the drop of a hat and hand out too many prescriptions, which has been documented over and over again.As far as research goes, there's never been any proof that biochemical evidence towards a condition is the cause of the condition or vice versa!
@devilraydude76 There certainly are no medical or "biochemical" tests that can be done to see what made up DSM condition they have, or what physical problems they have with their brain causing a condition, or to check what 'medicine' a person would need to take and in what quantity, etc.
Psychiatry bases all their diagnosis on the DSM which is all based on behaviour alone. This is where they are in grave error! Because many disorders show similar behaviours but are different in terms of actual cause. Until psychiatrists move from diagnosis from behaviour then errors such as this will continue to occur.
Psychiatrist also have minimal training in the structures of the brain and what those structures do. They are only trained in prescribing medications based on behaviour.
I can relate to all these lies they are feeding I have got myself out of the Mental Health System (Discharged) not by their doing. I received a letter of discharge from them after tactics of my own. I will say this that they have no other choice to discharge after not having anyone to work with.
there is nothing wrong with depression. It is there for a reason. It needs to be looked into and consciously experienced. Read Eckhart Tolle and other wisdom teachers.
I developed GAD, went to the Psych. He put me on Lorazepam and Paxil. After only two days I felt so crappy I took myself off paxil I could feel it in my head, it sucked. The withdraw was horrible after only 2 pills! I couldn't sleep, the room was spinning non stop and I was sweating like crazy. I continued the Lorazepam at my own dose, slowly taking less and less and I have to say, the lorazepam helped me keep my job. Only noticeable side effect was short-term memory loss, Continued,,
@Dishfarm The memory loss seemed to be mostly the details of any events occurring 30 min. after taking the pill. I still took it anyway knowing that I would do my best to get better and not need it. One other side effect is that it lowers your inhibitions, you might do things you don't really want to do. I suggest you just stay relaxed and try to work on personal projects a little, don't go nuts over it though, do what YOU want to do at your own pace.
There are people in the psych fields of medicine that mean well... But the current atmosphere in the "industry" presses people to use medication. Psychiatry doesn't really cure anything without psychology... And psychology (jmo) doesn't work without compassion... Medical "industry" has forgotten how to treat the person. A highly irresponsible attitude for professionals that should be healers.
As a mental health professional I concur with what you have written, recent evidence based medicine studies have pointed out that Psychology (talking therapy alone) has a better rate of improvement than Psychiatry (Drugs alone) but the best improvements were experienced by people who used drug therapy to treat the symptoms while receiving a talking therapy. As to the issue of compassion, I agree but the patient's trust is more valuable and must be earned with care and results.
Schizophrenia and Depression are (IMO) much abused by the psychiatry and psychology fields, as well as in common culture. What anyone who is feeling out of sorts needs is compassion, not drugs. If someone has not already presented a danger to themselves, or others, there's NO need to prescribe medication. On top of, I've noticed that psych drugs don't react the same from one person to the next...
schizophrenia is a made up disease. its non-existent. in medical pathology schizophrenia is a metaphor. psychiatrists are dangerous. EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
they don't force it, but it is very much their responsibility as a medical professional to be 100% aware of the effects and side effects and completely inform patients and their parents/minders. I'm sure the far majority do enter the field wanting to help people. But imagine you get educated in a field and find out that at least part of it didn't achieve what you expected (didn't _cure_ people). Would you quit the field? Most don't, but you will find some who do and now speak out.
@sebkarlsson I'm sure they're well aware that they'll never be able to completely cure a patient well before they even enter medical school. Psychiatrists do make mistakes, surgeons and anesthetists do too, as do all doctors. It's just hard to believe that people see psychiatry as something evil. Schizophrenics in particular benefit immensely from psychiatric care.
Oh, and they definitely get incentivised to push certain drugs, both fiscally and in other forms, so they're prescriptions aren't always 100% judgment-based for obvious reasons.
@sirutis Are Psychiatrists _medical_ doctors? I've heard of this thing called the Hippocratic oath, I guess it just exists as an abstract concept to be looked up to but never actually attained? There is no conspiracy you're right. Pharmaceutical companies create the medicine, they are sent to distributors and doctors who prescribe said drugs are remunerated as well as the distribution outlets. Simple economics, the health of the individual is the collateral damage.
@sirutis Psychiatrists coerced me into taking alot of drugs when I was younger, at times Iv'e been given drugs and never been warned, yes alot of psychiatrists are there to help people but alot of people suffer from psychiatric drugs as well as are helped.
@sirutis I was prescribed risperdal and was not given any warning about side effects or the fact that many people develop tardrive dyskinesia. It gave me a stroke and has ruined my life. I will never trust a psychiatrist again and will be suing them for negligence and malpractice.
@sirutis So what about the kids under 18 yrs of age? they don't have a say! I'm a walking example. At 15 yrs of age was diagnosed with "bipolar disorder" just because I was going through puberty. Ended up taking over 14 pills a day.Failed school went from an A-F student.Sheltered, lost friends, gained over 50lbs 110-180 only 5'2". I made a change at the age of 23 to get off those drugs. Now I'm doing great, losing weight, able to succeed at work and 100% Antipsychiatry!
@sirutis Doctors have authority over the persons they are treating. Doctors give orders. They can and do lock persons away in institutions against their will. They can and do order parents to administer drugs to children in such a way that the children will be confiscated if the parent refuses. Yes, there is fraud and conspiracy. Big Pharma is in control of this scene, not the psychiatrist, as benevolent as he or she may be. Your opinion is disturbingly uninformed.
sad that happened but some of the blamed comes bak to his mother wuts she like and is he father aroud or was he being raised by a single mother the person who give him the drugs should be charged and go to jail its so wrong druggin people
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good idea. blame the doctors and mediceine becaue theres just no possibility that there son ws so fucked up that he killed himself. where does blaming anyone get you?
It's not about blame, it's about taking into consideration all the contributing factors. Just one of the many is that some anti-psychotics and anti-depressants increase suicidality by x6. That's 600% more. That's a blackbox warning. Now imagine this was a family member of yours and he changed completely after being put on meds. Then he killed himself. Now tell me it's because "he was so fucked up".
Psychiatry isn't all bad, you can't say schizophrenia for example isn't a real disease, but yeah they should stop pumping people with medication for all the invented "disorders". And most important of all, depression is A STATE OF MIND, not a disease, stop trying to fucking treat it as one! People get depressed with good reasons, it's your brain telling you "hey retard, something is wrong with your life, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT". You just shouldn't supress that with antidepressants.
..."you can't say schizophrenia for example isn't a real disease"....? Really?
Perhaps you may be privy to ground-breaking and watershed medical evidence the rest of the Medical community isn't? Please share your findings with the rest of us. Thank you.
....tricyclics and SSRIs. Tricyclics are notorious for side effects but have less costs, and good effects. and there is ALWAYS one danger that has to be kept in mind: Drugs MAY temporarily increase the risk of suicide because of the positive energy the patient feels from it.
There exists no chemical tests for diagnosing depression. It's purely a clinical diagnosis. Chemical imbalance is a theory that explains its genesis and sustenance, supported most obviously by the positive effects of drugs.
A lot of things have to be put STRAIGHT here. Depression is most definitely a chemical IMBALANCE. Drugs are designed with the chemicals and molecular biology in mind and NO drug ever makes it to the market if it doesn't have a beneficial effect!
Mind you, beneficial effects can take anywhere from a week, till as many as TWO-THREE months!! It's variable from person to person. There are definite side effects to a variety of drugs and it looks like her son was put on.....
There is no proof or medical test that shows that Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance. There are some clips on here that even show Psychiatrists agree that this is the case.
You are 100% correct!!! There is absolutely positively no such thing as mental illness!!!
To the woman who lost her son, I feel so sorry for you. You should have asked those questions first.
Where are the blood tests, x-rays, etc. to show why my son needed this medicine?!
Please understand that psychiatrists are frauds. They can't heal the mind, because the mind is in the soul.If GOD allowed such a thing as mental illness to exist, then how could we be responsible to choose right from wrong?
Free-Will is a GOD given gift. If GOD is going to cloud our minds with mental disorders that we can't be held responsible for,well then we would all be exempt from hell and punishment.
GOD wants us to choose right from wrong.
We have got to know what we are doing, otherwise we are exempt from His 10 commandments. GOD never allowed such a thing as mental illness.
We are all suffering from spiritual illness.
Timothy: To every Beliver He gives sound mind". GOD Bless YOU!!!
@sebkarlsson : Thank you for pointing out a very overlooked and intentionally ignored point. There never has been, and, there still isn't, any sort of test for detecting any kind of "imbalance" whatsoever in the bodies of either living or dead people. Plain and simple.
You haven't the foggiest idea of what you're talking about. You're simply parroting what you've heard advertised by pharmaceutical companies and sales and marketing literature. Ask the research arms of the leading medical colleges in the world and they'll all tell you the same thing about this topic. THERE IS NO TEST TO EVEN MEASURE, GAUGE, OR TEST FOR ANY SORT OF S0-CALLED "IMBALANCE" IN A LIVING OR DEAD PERSON'S BRAIN OR ANY OTHER TISSUE. Plain and simple. Psychiatry/psychology is a fraud.
@NeroIstaffer : Like I've already stated. You've not the foggiest idea of what you're blathering about. You've demonstrated you don't know what a real "diagnosis" is comprised of, and, you've not a clue as to how psychotropic drugs operate. Time to bone up big shooter.
@Avengaromg123 u are 100 percent right...someone i know suffered from a "mental condition" he was never cured...all he did was run off to bed because the drugs made him so tired....it doesnt help with anything...makes you drowsy and ur symptoms dormant.
I was on prozac for for months, been off it for 5 months and I still have the same fucking amnesia that developed when I was on the drugs. Psychiatry is rape.
This pisses me off. I was the same way, when they put me on Shitt, I had nightmares of me stabbing people. The medecines DO NOT WORK for a Very very very very large amount of people. And this story needs to be EXPLODED so we can make a mountain out of a Mole Hill, like they do with mental illnesses.
I am with you all the way. ANTIDEPRESSANTS ARE POISON!! lEXAPRO GAVE ME PERMANENT RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME. It totally messed up a healthy part of my brain.
What the heck kind of crap are you spewing? On your page it shows you seem to be obsessed with masterbaiting. Almost every person masterbaits and yet they are fine. It's a natural human behavior, ANIMALS do it, basically anything with a sex drive does it.
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what i'm sayins is drugs just numb your brain and.or genitals.
Children get addicted to mstaurbation and gradually detroy their young brains.
For thousands of yers the 100% cure was truth and circumcision. Now medical business keeps selling lies that mastubation is healthy for thousands of billions.
Nobody cares that children die when oean of money is involved.
I know, this guy is a total ass wipe. The other day, he was dissing people with Borderline personality disorder and saying its because we touch ourselves, we have depression and BPD. What the Heck?! What does that have to do with anything?! Hes such a pervert! and offensive!
No one can make an educated decision about the true existance of mental disorders from a medical standpoint until they understand chemistry, endocrinology and brain anatomy. The fact of the matter is mental disorder can arise when any of these areas are affected or vice versa. Individuals with hyperthyroidsim often become MANIC. This hormonal imbalance CAN BE MEASURED. Also, many of the mental illnesses do present with altred levels of neurotransmitters which can ALSO BE MEASURED.
Good point. Of course there are side effects to physical problems. The ones you mention and others like autism, etc. I think we should be much more concerned with 99.9999(etc.)% that are told they have a PHYSICAL mental ILLNESS that stems from a chemical imbalance, but which are never able to be proven.
If you tell me I have a medical problem due to a chemical imbalance, you better be able to prove it.
Well, there are several illnesses, physical or not that cant be completely proven. I think antipsychiatrists have a problem with mental illness because it cannot be seen. But they neglect to critizize many of the practices of neurology or traumatic brain injury. The fact is any type of brain injury is hard to comprehend because we still have little understanding of this crucial organ. There are many disorders affecting the brain that do not have a clear diagnosis or a clear cure!!
True, but also very ambiguous. Let's get specific, what physical or other proof exists for DSM IV's Road Rage Disorder. There are many similar BS disorders that haven't and never will have physical signs to show this actually exists. So, specifically many of the disorders in the DSM have been voted on (imagined/created) and have no proof of existence.
Also not kidding about being less likely to successfully kill yourself when you are suffering severe, deep depression. Depresson's symptoms include difficulty making decisions, fatigue and decreased energy. Though I'm trying to find a more reliable source, many people I know who have tried to commit suicide have done so after they have been severely depressed and are just coming up out of that depression, when the energy's starting to come back.
We could discuss a bit about your points, but the long and the short of my point is that the idea that psychiatrists and the drug companies don't take enough responsibility (especially since psychs say they are the experts in the mental health field) and that the drugs would cause someone to commit suicide. The vast majority of suicide cases are not people who are so depressed they are not able to kill themselves. That idea is absurd.
No, I'm not kidding. Even on Lexapro's website, it says antidepressants can increase suicidality in children, adolescents and young adults. The people in this video completely trusted their psychiatrist with their son's wellbeing and didn't do their own research. The psych. should've told them, but they should also be somewhat proactive.
This is common in Americans. We often don't pay attention to our own biology and healthcare. When professionals make mistakes we often don't know it!
Antidepressants sometimes have the "side effect" of suicide. Depression is not simply feeling sad, lonely, unloved, etc. You also can lose motivation and energy to do anything--including commit suicide. If you are suicidally depressed, you are not likely to successfully kill yourself. If, however, you begin taking medication, this can give you enough energy and motivation to do so.
Many do find antidepressants helpful in alleviating symptoms so the underlying problems can be addressed.
THIS HAS TO STOP. I was locked up for 3 months and forced to take anti-psychotics (a few different ones, till they got me on trifluoperazine) and mood-stabalizers (depekote). There was nothing wrong with me! I've been on it for 2yrs, off now and I feel FANSTASTIC. Pyches are KILLERS. "first to no harm". I took prosac voluntarly before which felt awful to begin with, it was not too bad later on. Your right, they do NO tests, and they don't check the EVIDENCE of your grandiose 'desulsions'. Peace
This is absolute bullshit. these people are such liars, God what people will do nowadays for money. if this story is even remotely true, then they should understand that a patients might need to try several antidepressants until the right one suits them, and it also needs to be on the right dosage. God are people this stupid nowadays, what is happening to thr world?
Oh! Of course, they didn't take enough! Now I see... so if they had have dabbled with different anti-depressants, trying them like smarties, prescribed by 'medical' 'professionals' who don't know which the right one is either, they would have been cured? Maybe we should just get a candy pick and mix style bar installed and you can take a selection with you and just start experimenting?
Please go to Yahoo and type in "Horrible Truth About Psychiatric Drugs" to see a research paper exposing these drugs. Also so the search "Documented Proof Psychiatric Drugs Shorten Lifespan". Be sure to include the quotes. You will learn information no psychiatrist will tell you. These drugs destroy fertility and libido and cause impotence and extream disphoria and obesity. The promote suicide and violence not prevent it.
"psychiatrists earn more money from drug makers than doctors in any other specialty ... For instance, the more psychiatrists have earned from drug makers, the more they have prescribed a new class of powerful medicines known as atypical antipsychotics to children, for whom the drugs are especially risky and mostly unapproved." - New York Times, June 27, 2007, Psychiatrists Top List in Drug Maker Gifts
our brains are fragile things. we know that the chemicals in our brain DO go out of balance (due to drugs such as ecstasy, meth etc). i also believe that this can happen as a result of our environment as we grow up. "mental illness" becomes part of someones natural personality. those people deserve help.
Your whole argument falls down at the point where chemical imbalances are not attributable to mental diseases, hence you can't test for mental illnesses physically. SHOW ME THE IMBALANCE IN TESTS PROVE THE MENTAL ILLNESS PHYSICALLY. It's impossible!!! Use some logic for Christ's sake!
our chemicals dont go "out of balance" as literal as people say. i said i BELIEVE that it is as natural as growing up and developing character, the chemicals in your brain that alter your mood (seretonin, endorphins etc.) all act in different ways from person to person, accounting for mental illnesses and depression. i personally think everyone is a little bit "insane", if thats what you want to call it. some are just worse than others. they need to be helped.
'Bipolar disorder' doesn't exist. It's a name for a supposed physical condition that has been invented. There is no chemical imbalance and there is no evidence to show the brain releases chemicals at "wrong" times. That's the problem with Psychiatry. There is no physical test a doctor can do to prove any of these disorders, hence you can go to 5 Dr's with the same symptoms and be given completely different prescriptions. "More lies from Psychiatry"
Do you even know what Depression is? Depression IS a chemical imbalance in the brain. Anti-depressants have side-effects, that's true, which is what this poor child went through.
I personally hate Anti-Depressants, but it's not Psychiatry's fault.
Now, they did no blood test, listen to symptoms, or any of that; that is the Psychiatrist's fault, not Psychiatry. Psychiatry has saved and helped MANY mentally ill people. Don;t give me that "Lies from Psychiatry" crap.
What you're saying doesn't make sense. You're insinuating that anti-depressants work (ie. on the basis that depression is a"chemical imbalance", many anti-depressants should work), yet you don't like them? Explain.
I'm talking about the field of Psychiatry and yes, these are lies from that field (indeed even traditional texts are full of harmful and ineffective techniques). Are you saying you prefer the traditional or the modern texts are correct but individuals are at fault??? make more sense!
Specific anti-depressants work with different chemicals. I don't think I can name too many, but I know Lexapro or Litax(typo?) works with depression or Bipolar Disorder. They also have different side-effects. Now, I don't LIKE them BECAUSE of those side-effects!
Harmful, innefective techniques? So you saying that Psychiatry is an evil that has not saved countless lives and treated countless people? Yes, there have been mishaps, but being prejudice about said mishaps should not make you think Psychiatry is an evil.
There have been multiple scientology cases(which are on youtube, look them up) in which they didn't allow their members Psychiatric help and they ended up killing them instead of letting them see a Psychiatrist.
Depression is natural state brought about by social / environmental factors. If you take a 'normal' person with no mental health issues and deprive them of sleep for 3 days they will begin to exhibit psychoses; environmental factors inducing a mental state. I watched a family member of mine suffer from depression repeatedly attempt suicide - drugs did not help, they just dulled them. At Chemical Imbalance's core is a $76 Billion dollar industry. There's no cure for normal reactions to life.
Yes, there is no cure to depression or Bipolar disorder or any other mental illness, but drugs usually help the victim cope with it. I wasn't there to see your family member suffer from depression, so I cannot say the drugs where not effective, or the depression was to great, or whatever.
Anti-Depressants differ between people. People with Bipolar usually benefit with the help of Anti-depressants, as they have a chemical imbalance in the brain that releases ccertain chemicals at wrong times.
they help them cope by dulling their ability to interact with people, they are not cured, it's just an altered mental state.
Drugs do not deal with the root cause. The solution is to deal with whatever the root cause is, coupled with good diet, regular exercise and consistent sleeping patterns, not mind-numbing psychoactive chemicals that alter the brain chemistry from what is a NATURAL state responding to the environment and experiences of that person. There's no pill for a sh1t life mate.
Cam anyone find me a conclusive scientific study that ACTUALLY finds a chemical basis for any mental disorder and that a general medication exits to acuractely fix the brain according to that specific imbalance? "We find you are lacking in fluoride..." - used in the Gulag to subdue prisoners - ...so take this here Prozac and all will be back in balance." Check out docs on Richard Feynman about what true science is. I am not against effective phychology, but there are overnight cures, eg EFT.
Spelling: Can anyone find me a conclusive scientific study that ACTUALLY finds a chemical basis for any mental disorder and that a medication exits to accurately fix the brain according to that specific imbalance? "We find you are lacking in fluoride..."(used in the Gulag to subdue prisoners)"...so take this here Prozac and all will be back in balance." Check out docs on Richard Feynman about what true science is. I am not against effective psychology, but there are overnight cures, eg EFT.
I took Lexapro and it changed my life. I suffered from Depression and it has really helped me. Not every drug works for every person. I also noticed in this film that the sister said that he probably stopped off for a drink. He was only 18 and drinking? You are not supposed to drink alcohol while on these types of drugs. I love how the filmmaker left that part out. I guess the Democrats feel that they can run the medical field better than Dr's. They can't even fix our streets!!
I have a question, where's his father? Maybe he's from a broken home. A single mothermom can't give the type of guidance that a father could. He was probably having issues for years and by the time he finally was taken to a psychiatrist, it was too late. I hate how one kid kills himself, and all of the sudden it's the entire psychiatric field's fault. Maybe he was supposed to keep coming back (which is standard) and the know it all mother said "oh you don't need anymore help".
it's not just one kid who kills himself indianajoe, there are far too many examples. all the recent gun killings in school that have been so well documented in recent years (eg. Columbine) have the common denominator that these kids were on psych drugs and were largely (all those I read about) non-violent before and suddenly changed for the worse after taking these drugs. Every 'remedy' given has around 20% success rate, this is the placebo effect and it doesn't matter what you give the patient.
I feel that media perpetrating the peer pressure mentality of superficiality and airs is creating our mental problems. They are setting a standard of superficial worth that makes us have these problems. They have created the perfect world where people can become extremely upset and beat down for not being what NORMAL is supposed to be.
i believe in it. i've been "manic" with racing thoughts, delusions of grandeur, uncharacteristic bouts of anger. normal people don't go around for a week truly believing that they're the messiah.
Both of my parents were worsened by them (Dad on Paxil, mom on Wellbutrin). Mom stopped taking the Wellbutrin. Dad stopped eating and died.
I have yet to meet one person who has done well on these drugs, and none of these people I personally know are Scientologists. My parents are Methodists. My friend was a Lutheran. Those are not anti-medication religious paths.
It's a sad story, but I have a hard time believing that drugs were to blame. It sounds like the kid was suicidal before he went on medication. True, the drugs may have failed, but it's a failure stop what he was going to do anyway.
Fair point. Best thing is to look at other similar cases, for example Columbine and other high school shootings were perpetrated by kids on psychiatric drugs. There are quite a few more clips around showing that those kids were not violent prior to having taken the drugs, then suddenly changed for the worse.
Just because they are a medical doctor doesn't make them right Bombill.
I can feel you pain for Matthew's tragic outcome that, maybe, could have been prevented. Yet, psychiatry brings peace to millions. Just think of those with obsessions & phobias helped by Lexapro or Prozac. "Chemical imbalance" is an expression not a diagnosis and you are right, depression is diagnosed with a clinical evaluation not a blood test. Perhaps he needed hospitalization and time for Lexapro to work or maybe he had bipolar depression, for which it doesn't work.
Molyneux - Thought, learning and emotion occur via biochemical and electrical signals in our brain. By definition, any mental disorder can be called a 'chemical imbalance' It doesn't tell what is the 'trigger' - did the brain chemistry change us, or did our thoughts change our chemistry? The disorder is a reflection of the biology, and vice versa, they often spiral. Unfortunately we're only at the beginning of understanding this, but that doesn't mean our thoughts and our brain are unrelated.
When you dream, your body takes what your imagining as reality. The proof of this is that, for example, people sweat when being chased, the heart rate may rises. But also, the in the case of being chased, dopamine levels will increase. Because we have the ability to imagine (unlike animals who don't suffer mental illness) we cause the chemical changes in the brain. When I imagine that car crash I had I may shake and feel on edge and chemical changes that relate to this will occur.
(continued from below) ..but also by diet and lifestyle. CBT is an excellent treatment for depression, your thoughts have a powerful effect on your brain chemistry and vice versa. They are inseparable. Yet, the 'chemical imbalance' theory, isn't that useful because it leads people to believe that their brain chemistry is permanent, beyond their control, and requires medication to correct, when in fact none of that is true. However, to pretend that it doesn't affect us isn't true either.
I agree, the chemical imbalance therory isn't useful. At least we can agree on one thing. However, even if you could directly measure brain neurotransmitter levels (not peripherals measurments you understand) it still proves little as the depressed mood may be causing the reduced levels in the first place.
A psychologist demonstrated this to me very well: The guy running round the field sweating. By the logic of the chemcal imbalance theory, you'd say he's running because he is sweating. Of course, this is nonsense. You agree?
What happened to this young man is sad and unfortunate. Perhaps we are too quick to break out the medication at the first sign of mental illness. Some anti-depressants have in fact shown to temporarily increase the risk of suicide in young patients. The problem is that untreated depression carries a high risk as well. Critics argue that mental illness is invented, but as a sufferer, I can tell you it's real. We just need to rethink our treatment strategies and keep on the research
Emily: FYI, this video is produced by CCHR, a scientology-afilliated org.
But anyway, the 'chemical imbalance' theory is based on research that shows that levels of serotonin and norepinephrine are low in depressed people, and that meds that raise levels of these often help. There are tests that show this, but they're generally not done on an individual basis as it's equally effective to diagnose based on symptoms.
Midnight, can you please show me the test. Can you make sure the test contains direct measurements of these neurotansmitter in the brain. I'll save you some time. This test does not exist. There is no such test that allows for the direct measurment of brain neurotransmitter levels. Could you also please explain how therepy such as CBT works on depressed patients if what they have is purly biological in nature. I mean you don't give diabetes patients councilling.
I have to disagree with you about the lack of neurotransmitter level tests. For one example you can take a serum serotonin level or 5-HT level a/k/a 5-hydroxytryptamine level to measure serotonin. Depression is more than just serotonin of course, but it's not true that neurotransmitters can't be measured. Your comment about diabetes is apt, I think it's unfortunate that they don't give diabetes patients counselling, because much like depression, diabetes is affected by not just our biology..
Never fails to amaze me how much of a foothold the practice of psychaitry has in the modern day world and the sad thing is that anyone who tries to prove that the entire practice is a sham - they are either labelled as crazy themselves, a member of some cult (Scientology), or if they don't know what they are talking about. Even when presented with the facts and figures to back up the view, they still say "Psychaitry is a valid science and exists and is needed".
the only time i really felt like i was going crazy was when they started me on antidepressants, or had severe withdrawals from them (no withdrawals say doc, LMFAO). the truth is *NO ONE KNOWS* what these drugs do. the tests they run are VERY limited (and a lot of the bad results are covered up). the whole thing is run by the pharmaceutical industry.
See, this is a huge problem with psychiatry today. They rely too much on neuroleptics, which do more harm than good. And most of them diagnose too quickly as it is. I hope with newer generations that some of this will change, because a lot of the 'biopsychiatric' theories are kinda faulty. I think psychotherapy and psychoanalysis have much better efficacy than these chemical lobotomies.
the problem is how much can a chemical level differ before there is a 'chemical imbalance' which is arbitrary statement since everyone has differing levels.
ok, a chem. "imabalance", but do you suddenly get a chem. imbalance after someone dies, or has trauma, etc. a lot can be cured thru a differnt environment, talking etc. its not like a lack of vitamin C ffs! for "depression" they give you all sorts of drugs, ssris, snris, antipsychotics, tricyclic, etc. *which* imbalance is it? have you had experience with this or are you just observing? most "imbalances" are caused by adding more "chemicals" in- its a dangerous guessing game
a blood test would tell you if there was a chemical imbalance fuck wit^^^ i hate the people who have taken snippets of science from tv shows and tom fucking cruise and told this vulnerable mother to spread shit about her story. she is stupid and youre being brainwashed into a war on knowledge!
be on guard people i too was a victim of psychiatry drove me to suicide. the labelling is as much a problem as any left me hopeless and along with the lack of empathy the drugs created lead to suicide attempts.
gps everywhere are also guilty
AWhileHanlin 2 months ago
The pills make you much much much worse..........the doctors dont care though cause it never comes back to them
Drhamburgerhill 2 months ago
Its the same story over and over.....someone needs to start a foundation of people who have been lied to and destroyed by medication when they went to doctors in good faith seeking help....there are millions of us ....and we are all passionate about it.....that pain they but us through so non-chalantly guarantees that......and they are gonna do it to millions more..if we dont
Drhamburgerhill 2 months ago
Its the only "disease" that "doctors" dont have to do any test to proof exists.......and give you horrible medication that will cripple you for life and has a more painful withdrawal then herion in a single visit with a smile....then never see you again
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Having spent four months on a psychiatry ward in the capacity of a medical doctor I am in a unique position to objectively see how it works from the perspective of that of the practitioner. I want to iterate that I'm not a psychiatrist but I did have some psychiatry training in recognising mental health illnesses and disorder management.
drpiddleton 3 months ago
Obviously sebkarlsson is not who or what he says he is. Blood tests have nothing to do with determining if a person has a "chemical imbalance". AKSBSU is correct in that that term is a dumbed down way of explaining the situation to the masses. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter that has many other functions other than it's perceived role in mood. Bottom line, too many doctors (not psychologists) are prescribing drugs for psychological issues, see my next post for more on why...
jhuffman2424 6 months ago
@jhuffman2424 I think you're exactly correct and one does not have to be a scientist of any type to see the flaws in the arguments used to justify the use of neuroleptics. I can't stand psychiatry or psychiatrists. These medical sell outs, who abandoned all their training for money, are damaging the minds of poor souls in need of care. The drugs they Rx are addictive and toxic. The drugs they use cause dysfunction; TD for example. The 1990's WHO studies showed recovery without meds. WTF
Nu13th 3 months ago
For the reasoning behind the over-use of drugs for treatment of mental issues, you don't have to look any farther than Big Pharma (the pharmaceutical companies). Drugs for depression, schizophrenia, anxiety based disorders, bi-polar disorder, and pretty much any others have become big business for Big Pharma, to the tune of the top 5 pharmaceutical companies turning a higher profit than any other industry in America. And yes, specifically an American issue!
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jhuffman2424 6 months ago
You don't give blood tests to diagnose depression. The brain operates through a complex array of chemical interactions. Calling it a "chemical imbalance" is a simplification to help the average person conceptualize something they have limited knowledge of. There is absolutely a robust foundation of peer-reviewed literature linking mood to serotonin and other neurotransmitters and hormones.
AKSBSU 6 months ago
@AKSBSU: blood tests are just an for-instance when it comes to physically and medically diagnosing a mental illness: which has not been done. Just because mood is linked to Seratonin or any other examples you could mention it doesn't take away from the fact either that these drugs are there to suppress symptoms rather than cure anything.
sebkarlsson 6 months ago
@sebkarlsson Etiology, symptoms, ect. varies by individual mental illness, but in general with anxiety and mood disorders one usually finds both cognitive/behavioral and physiological components. Medication is especially useful with high severity. Individuals suffering from agoraphobia, social phobia, or severe major depressive disorder may be unwilling or unable emotionally to even participate in therapy without a relief of their current symptoms. Even sitting in the waiting room is traumatic.
AKSBSU 6 months ago
@AKSBSU of course the etiology will vary wildly and widely, that to me is stating the obvious isn't it? Psychiatry certainly has it's roots in taming/treating/hiding those with extreme mental health problems, hence they got away with so much barbarism in their institutions for so long. Society doesn't except the extreme cases and generally just wants them gone. As much as I could sympathize with those, it's the MAJORITY that are over-medicated when there are far better solutions.
sebkarlsson 6 months ago
@sebkarlsson It's quite obvious to me, as I've spent quite a bit of time studying neuropharmacology, but it doesn't seem quite so obvious to you based on your comments. I'd also be interested in knowing which statistics you're citing. You need some numbers to get a majority of anything. Based on the resources I use, peer-reviewed scientific journals, counseling and medication combined tend to yield the most favorable outcomes. What resources are you using to draw your conclusions?
AKSBSU 6 months ago
Ideally, I personally prefer a team-based approach for dealing with severe mental illness. I make a concerted effort to maintain open communication between myself, the patient, other medical and mental health professionals. This requires professionals with advanced training and credentials to check their egos much of the time and take the time to listen to others, which can admittedly be a challenge for many individuals in these fields, but I think it yields the best results.
AKSBSU 6 months ago
@AKSBSU You're a Psychiatrist yourself? How do you feel your field is doing? What makes you watch this and presumably other videos like this and how do you feel about so many critisisms against Psyh. these days?
sebkarlsson 6 months ago
@sebkarlsson No, I'm not a psychiatrist. My field is psychology. More specifically, it's neuropsychology. I have worked with plenty of neurologists and psychiatrists, as well as a wide variety of other types of health and mental health professionals.
I welcome constructive, valid criticisms of my field and other fields. The topic of my dissertation was validating an assessment of emotional status. I'm considered by my peers to be quite aggressive in demanding empirical support.
AKSBSU 6 months ago
@sebkarlsson are you a victim of psychiatry? why are you so against it?
dstp91 6 months ago
@dstp91 Because for years I've seen what it can do to people. It's so rare that I hear from someone who it has helped and then it's usually someone who's just started a drug and may not notice side-effects or the addiction yet. Just look at all the posts on my very few videos from people who have suffered from Psych drugs...
I stand against drugs seen as a solution for the masses and psycho-surgery and ECT. That's it.
sebkarlsson 6 months ago
im also on lexapro and effexor. since being on the meds i've tried to commit suicide twice. drugs dont help, atleast the ones im taking.
IAmExia 8 months ago
Why the medical establishment has not kicked psychiatry to the curb is beyond me?
scottyb453 8 months ago
This is a fraud and only a violent fraud. There's no medical evidence of any bio-chemical imbalnce someone is supposed to have in his/her brain. No behaviuor or misbehaviour is a disease.
giambabest 9 months ago 2
I had a similar experience with Celexa. I had no idea what was going on I began to freak out and went through a series of rapid intense emotional affects of fear, rage, nausea, grief, and hilarity, then back again through the cycle. I had no idea what was going on. These drugs are extremely dangerous.
logoself 9 months ago
Actually ppl are forced to take psychotropic drugs and sometimes even take ect's. Mainly kids are forced into taking drugs. Foster kids are especially susceptible to being forced to be on psychotropic medications. Psychiatry is not a science at all. The DSM is developed by psychiatrists voting in on symptoms presenting as diagnosis. There are no biological tests.
beautifulmind546 9 months ago 2
Medication is a joke and the chemical imbalance is a joke. Shame on drug companies and doctors. I was a victim of the crap medications that dumb doctors prescribe and I'm not taking that crap anymore. You have to take control of your life and trust your own instincts not the doctors. FIGHT BACK DAME IT.
tien714 9 months ago 4
There's no such thing as a "chemical imbalance" in the brain. Even some psychiatrits said that on other youtube videos. And it's nothing like a diabetis person who needs insulin a bipolar person needs there meds. that's another lame ass thing those quacks I use to trust told me. I always wondered why they called psychiatrists "shrinks" cause that's all they are. And that's what exactly they did to me! RUINED MY LIFE.
AmandaN024 1 year ago 4
THE DRUG MADE A SUICIDE !!!ANYONE WHOM LISTENS TO PSYCHIATRISTS ARE DOPES !
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starseedleo 1 year ago
@starseedleo . I don't think many people completely blame Psychiatry, since Big Pharma is very culpable. There's not doubt that there are Psychiatrists who do as you say and go for counseling first but there are also a large number that medicate at the drop of a hat and hand out too many prescriptions, which has been documented over and over again.As far as research goes, there's never been any proof that biochemical evidence towards a condition is the cause of the condition or vice versa!
sebkarlsson 9 months ago
@devilraydude76 There certainly are no medical or "biochemical" tests that can be done to see what made up DSM condition they have, or what physical problems they have with their brain causing a condition, or to check what 'medicine' a person would need to take and in what quantity, etc.
sebkarlsson 1 year ago
Psychiatry bases all their diagnosis on the DSM which is all based on behaviour alone. This is where they are in grave error! Because many disorders show similar behaviours but are different in terms of actual cause. Until psychiatrists move from diagnosis from behaviour then errors such as this will continue to occur.
Psychiatrist also have minimal training in the structures of the brain and what those structures do. They are only trained in prescribing medications based on behaviour.
tydees 1 year ago
I can relate to all these lies they are feeding I have got myself out of the Mental Health System (Discharged) not by their doing. I received a letter of discharge from them after tactics of my own. I will say this that they have no other choice to discharge after not having anyone to work with.
sweetiepie212121 1 year ago
there is nothing wrong with depression. It is there for a reason. It needs to be looked into and consciously experienced. Read Eckhart Tolle and other wisdom teachers.
claudelebel55 1 year ago
I developed GAD, went to the Psych. He put me on Lorazepam and Paxil. After only two days I felt so crappy I took myself off paxil I could feel it in my head, it sucked. The withdraw was horrible after only 2 pills! I couldn't sleep, the room was spinning non stop and I was sweating like crazy. I continued the Lorazepam at my own dose, slowly taking less and less and I have to say, the lorazepam helped me keep my job. Only noticeable side effect was short-term memory loss, Continued,,
Dishfarm 1 year ago
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Dishfarm 1 year ago
@Dishfarm The memory loss seemed to be mostly the details of any events occurring 30 min. after taking the pill. I still took it anyway knowing that I would do my best to get better and not need it. One other side effect is that it lowers your inhibitions, you might do things you don't really want to do. I suggest you just stay relaxed and try to work on personal projects a little, don't go nuts over it though, do what YOU want to do at your own pace.
Dishfarm 1 year ago
There are people in the psych fields of medicine that mean well... But the current atmosphere in the "industry" presses people to use medication. Psychiatry doesn't really cure anything without psychology... And psychology (jmo) doesn't work without compassion... Medical "industry" has forgotten how to treat the person. A highly irresponsible attitude for professionals that should be healers.
jonandra 1 year ago 2
@jonandra
As a mental health professional I concur with what you have written, recent evidence based medicine studies have pointed out that Psychology (talking therapy alone) has a better rate of improvement than Psychiatry (Drugs alone) but the best improvements were experienced by people who used drug therapy to treat the symptoms while receiving a talking therapy. As to the issue of compassion, I agree but the patient's trust is more valuable and must be earned with care and results.
formless777 1 year ago
Schizophrenia and Depression are (IMO) much abused by the psychiatry and psychology fields, as well as in common culture. What anyone who is feeling out of sorts needs is compassion, not drugs. If someone has not already presented a danger to themselves, or others, there's NO need to prescribe medication. On top of, I've noticed that psych drugs don't react the same from one person to the next...
jonandra 1 year ago
schizophrenia is a made up disease. its non-existent. in medical pathology schizophrenia is a metaphor. psychiatrists are dangerous. EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
draziom902 1 year ago
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psychiatrists don't force any medication on a patient
the patient must be well aware of all side effects and negative effects the drug might have
psychiatrists become psychiatrists because they sincerely want to help people. there is no fraud, there is no conspiracy.
sirutis 1 year ago
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they don't force it, but it is very much their responsibility as a medical professional to be 100% aware of the effects and side effects and completely inform patients and their parents/minders. I'm sure the far majority do enter the field wanting to help people. But imagine you get educated in a field and find out that at least part of it didn't achieve what you expected (didn't _cure_ people). Would you quit the field? Most don't, but you will find some who do and now speak out.
sebkarlsson 1 year ago
@sebkarlsson I'm sure they're well aware that they'll never be able to completely cure a patient well before they even enter medical school. Psychiatrists do make mistakes, surgeons and anesthetists do too, as do all doctors. It's just hard to believe that people see psychiatry as something evil. Schizophrenics in particular benefit immensely from psychiatric care.
sirutis 1 year ago
Oh, and they definitely get incentivised to push certain drugs, both fiscally and in other forms, so they're prescriptions aren't always 100% judgment-based for obvious reasons.
sebkarlsson 1 year ago
@sirutis Are Psychiatrists _medical_ doctors? I've heard of this thing called the Hippocratic oath, I guess it just exists as an abstract concept to be looked up to but never actually attained? There is no conspiracy you're right. Pharmaceutical companies create the medicine, they are sent to distributors and doctors who prescribe said drugs are remunerated as well as the distribution outlets. Simple economics, the health of the individual is the collateral damage.
Infinitesimalism 1 year ago
@sirutis Psychiatrists coerced me into taking alot of drugs when I was younger, at times Iv'e been given drugs and never been warned, yes alot of psychiatrists are there to help people but alot of people suffer from psychiatric drugs as well as are helped.
madbandicooot 1 year ago
@sirutis I was prescribed risperdal and was not given any warning about side effects or the fact that many people develop tardrive dyskinesia. It gave me a stroke and has ruined my life. I will never trust a psychiatrist again and will be suing them for negligence and malpractice.
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
@sirutis So what about the kids under 18 yrs of age? they don't have a say! I'm a walking example. At 15 yrs of age was diagnosed with "bipolar disorder" just because I was going through puberty. Ended up taking over 14 pills a day.Failed school went from an A-F student.Sheltered, lost friends, gained over 50lbs 110-180 only 5'2". I made a change at the age of 23 to get off those drugs. Now I'm doing great, losing weight, able to succeed at work and 100% Antipsychiatry!
AmandaN024 1 year ago
@sirutis Doctors have authority over the persons they are treating. Doctors give orders. They can and do lock persons away in institutions against their will. They can and do order parents to administer drugs to children in such a way that the children will be confiscated if the parent refuses. Yes, there is fraud and conspiracy. Big Pharma is in control of this scene, not the psychiatrist, as benevolent as he or she may be. Your opinion is disturbingly uninformed.
AnotherGlenn 9 months ago
if he had overdosed the pills would have been directly responsible.
plutoplatters 1 year ago
sad that happened but some of the blamed comes bak to his mother wuts she like and is he father aroud or was he being raised by a single mother the person who give him the drugs should be charged and go to jail its so wrong druggin people
dihle12 1 year ago
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good idea. blame the doctors and mediceine becaue theres just no possibility that there son ws so fucked up that he killed himself. where does blaming anyone get you?
tcc450 2 years ago
It's not about blame, it's about taking into consideration all the contributing factors. Just one of the many is that some anti-psychotics and anti-depressants increase suicidality by x6. That's 600% more. That's a blackbox warning. Now imagine this was a family member of yours and he changed completely after being put on meds. Then he killed himself. Now tell me it's because "he was so fucked up".
sebkarlsson 2 years ago
Good response, to which I agree.
globbo100 2 years ago
@tcc450 sometimes the "blamed" are to blame.
plutoplatters 1 year ago
@tcc450 MORON
draziom902 1 year ago
Psychiatry isn't all bad, you can't say schizophrenia for example isn't a real disease, but yeah they should stop pumping people with medication for all the invented "disorders". And most important of all, depression is A STATE OF MIND, not a disease, stop trying to fucking treat it as one! People get depressed with good reasons, it's your brain telling you "hey retard, something is wrong with your life, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT". You just shouldn't supress that with antidepressants.
Bavanai 2 years ago
WELL SAID.
sebkarlsson 2 years ago
..."you can't say schizophrenia for example isn't a real disease"....? Really?
Perhaps you may be privy to ground-breaking and watershed medical evidence the rest of the Medical community isn't? Please share your findings with the rest of us. Thank you.
kevinneslund 2 years ago 3
....tricyclics and SSRIs. Tricyclics are notorious for side effects but have less costs, and good effects. and there is ALWAYS one danger that has to be kept in mind: Drugs MAY temporarily increase the risk of suicide because of the positive energy the patient feels from it.
There exists no chemical tests for diagnosing depression. It's purely a clinical diagnosis. Chemical imbalance is a theory that explains its genesis and sustenance, supported most obviously by the positive effects of drugs.
NeroIstaffer 2 years ago
A lot of things have to be put STRAIGHT here. Depression is most definitely a chemical IMBALANCE. Drugs are designed with the chemicals and molecular biology in mind and NO drug ever makes it to the market if it doesn't have a beneficial effect!
Mind you, beneficial effects can take anywhere from a week, till as many as TWO-THREE months!! It's variable from person to person. There are definite side effects to a variety of drugs and it looks like her son was put on.....
NeroIstaffer 2 years ago
There is no proof or medical test that shows that Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance. There are some clips on here that even show Psychiatrists agree that this is the case.
sebkarlsson 2 years ago 2
You are 100% correct!!! There is absolutely positively no such thing as mental illness!!!
To the woman who lost her son, I feel so sorry for you. You should have asked those questions first.
Where are the blood tests, x-rays, etc. to show why my son needed this medicine?!
Please understand that psychiatrists are frauds. They can't heal the mind, because the mind is in the soul.If GOD allowed such a thing as mental illness to exist, then how could we be responsible to choose right from wrong?
The7776 2 years ago 2
Free-Will is a GOD given gift. If GOD is going to cloud our minds with mental disorders that we can't be held responsible for,well then we would all be exempt from hell and punishment.
GOD wants us to choose right from wrong.
We have got to know what we are doing, otherwise we are exempt from His 10 commandments. GOD never allowed such a thing as mental illness.
We are all suffering from spiritual illness.
Timothy: To every Beliver He gives sound mind". GOD Bless YOU!!!
The7776 2 years ago
@sebkarlsson : Thank you for pointing out a very overlooked and intentionally ignored point. There never has been, and, there still isn't, any sort of test for detecting any kind of "imbalance" whatsoever in the bodies of either living or dead people. Plain and simple.
kevinneslund 1 year ago
You haven't the foggiest idea of what you're talking about. You're simply parroting what you've heard advertised by pharmaceutical companies and sales and marketing literature. Ask the research arms of the leading medical colleges in the world and they'll all tell you the same thing about this topic. THERE IS NO TEST TO EVEN MEASURE, GAUGE, OR TEST FOR ANY SORT OF S0-CALLED "IMBALANCE" IN A LIVING OR DEAD PERSON'S BRAIN OR ANY OTHER TISSUE. Plain and simple. Psychiatry/psychology is a fraud.
kevinneslund 2 years ago 2
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@kevinneslund
Like has already been stated, depression is a clinical diagnosis. The drugs work at the molecular level and create balance amongst the chemicals.
NeroIstaffer 1 year ago
@NeroIstaffer : Like I've already stated. You've not the foggiest idea of what you're blathering about. You've demonstrated you don't know what a real "diagnosis" is comprised of, and, you've not a clue as to how psychotropic drugs operate. Time to bone up big shooter.
kevinneslund 1 year ago
@NeroIstaffer So how are you benifiting from these unscientific lies your blow horning.....I HATE morons like you
Drhamburgerhill 2 months ago
"Drugs are always SUPPRESSANTS - they never CURE ANY CAUSE. "
Mine did Help in curing the causes,
Avengaromg123 2 years ago
@Avengaromg123 : Right. and "Bigfoot" was captured and put on display by the National Science Foundation.
kevinneslund 1 year ago
@Avengaromg123 u are 100 percent right...someone i know suffered from a "mental condition" he was never cured...all he did was run off to bed because the drugs made him so tired....it doesnt help with anything...makes you drowsy and ur symptoms dormant.
83Pindi 1 year ago
The only way to stop them from drugging our children is not to have any.
Mlhirdyahoocomau 2 years ago
Psychiatry should be destroyed for the good of mankind
MissRealitycreator 2 years ago 4
I was on prozac for for months, been off it for 5 months and I still have the same fucking amnesia that developed when I was on the drugs. Psychiatry is rape.
xplodetrain 2 years ago 16
This pisses me off. I was the same way, when they put me on Shitt, I had nightmares of me stabbing people. The medecines DO NOT WORK for a Very very very very large amount of people. And this story needs to be EXPLODED so we can make a mountain out of a Mole Hill, like they do with mental illnesses.
Kevinlcm17 2 years ago 6
You can fight your way through depression...I've been really depressed all my life but every time I fight my way out of it.
Ealasaid17 2 years ago 17
@Ealasaid17
YES YOU CAN! I DID IT!
blackNirishhunee 8 months ago
@blackNirishhunee
What do you mean?
Ealasaid17 8 months ago
@Ealasaid17
I too fought my way through it..depression, that is...
blackNirishhunee 8 months ago
@blackNirishhunee Oh!!! Now I see :) Good for you I'm very happy you survived depression. Such a demon it is!
Ealasaid17 8 months ago
psychiatrists will basically ignore every bad thing that ever happened to you and convince you your problems are all biochemical.
They will also twist your words and lie about you and make your life worse. Dont think they are understanding you or writing down what you are saying.
They are trying to get dirt on you and they will lie if they have to.
running877 2 years ago 4
I am with you all the way. ANTIDEPRESSANTS ARE POISON!! lEXAPRO GAVE ME PERMANENT RESTLESS LEG SYNDROME. It totally messed up a healthy part of my brain.
LMorgan1234 2 years ago 2
wow thats crazy.
iAmCodeMonkey 2 years ago
Don't know, but he's very confused! Calling perhaps the most natural act (procreation) destructive is very irrational.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
why do people say things like brainheal did?
robbabub 3 years ago
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psychiatry would not exist if people would not torture their brains with masturbation.
The only real cure in psychiatry is the truth.
"masturbation kills your brain cells".
Children who are not told that masturbation gradually kills - gradually die.
It takes 6-8 weeks without sex to recover from depression.
It takes 3-18 months without sex to recover from schizophrenia.
brainheal 3 years ago
What the heck kind of crap are you spewing? On your page it shows you seem to be obsessed with masterbaiting. Almost every person masterbaits and yet they are fine. It's a natural human behavior, ANIMALS do it, basically anything with a sex drive does it.
ShastaKitten 3 years ago
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what i'm sayins is drugs just numb your brain and.or genitals.
Children get addicted to mstaurbation and gradually detroy their young brains.
For thousands of yers the 100% cure was truth and circumcision. Now medical business keeps selling lies that mastubation is healthy for thousands of billions.
Nobody cares that children die when oean of money is involved.
brainheal 3 years ago
I know, this guy is a total ass wipe. The other day, he was dissing people with Borderline personality disorder and saying its because we touch ourselves, we have depression and BPD. What the Heck?! What does that have to do with anything?! Hes such a pervert! and offensive!
FaerieofTwilight 3 years ago 3
No one can make an educated decision about the true existance of mental disorders from a medical standpoint until they understand chemistry, endocrinology and brain anatomy. The fact of the matter is mental disorder can arise when any of these areas are affected or vice versa. Individuals with hyperthyroidsim often become MANIC. This hormonal imbalance CAN BE MEASURED. Also, many of the mental illnesses do present with altred levels of neurotransmitters which can ALSO BE MEASURED.
marshalljman 3 years ago
Good point. Of course there are side effects to physical problems. The ones you mention and others like autism, etc. I think we should be much more concerned with 99.9999(etc.)% that are told they have a PHYSICAL mental ILLNESS that stems from a chemical imbalance, but which are never able to be proven.
If you tell me I have a medical problem due to a chemical imbalance, you better be able to prove it.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
Well, there are several illnesses, physical or not that cant be completely proven. I think antipsychiatrists have a problem with mental illness because it cannot be seen. But they neglect to critizize many of the practices of neurology or traumatic brain injury. The fact is any type of brain injury is hard to comprehend because we still have little understanding of this crucial organ. There are many disorders affecting the brain that do not have a clear diagnosis or a clear cure!!
marshalljman 3 years ago
True, but also very ambiguous. Let's get specific, what physical or other proof exists for DSM IV's Road Rage Disorder. There are many similar BS disorders that haven't and never will have physical signs to show this actually exists. So, specifically many of the disorders in the DSM have been voted on (imagined/created) and have no proof of existence.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
Also not kidding about being less likely to successfully kill yourself when you are suffering severe, deep depression. Depresson's symptoms include difficulty making decisions, fatigue and decreased energy. Though I'm trying to find a more reliable source, many people I know who have tried to commit suicide have done so after they have been severely depressed and are just coming up out of that depression, when the energy's starting to come back.
Szedg 3 years ago
We could discuss a bit about your points, but the long and the short of my point is that the idea that psychiatrists and the drug companies don't take enough responsibility (especially since psychs say they are the experts in the mental health field) and that the drugs would cause someone to commit suicide. The vast majority of suicide cases are not people who are so depressed they are not able to kill themselves. That idea is absurd.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
No, I'm not kidding. Even on Lexapro's website, it says antidepressants can increase suicidality in children, adolescents and young adults. The people in this video completely trusted their psychiatrist with their son's wellbeing and didn't do their own research. The psych. should've told them, but they should also be somewhat proactive.
This is common in Americans. We often don't pay attention to our own biology and healthcare. When professionals make mistakes we often don't know it!
Szedg 3 years ago
The manufacturers and 'doctors' with the responsibility of prescribing them (or not) should be held accountable!
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
i never wanted to die until i started being force fed medication.
yes its a killer....and your son was murdered...too bad medication can't be put in jail
DelIriSentA 3 years ago 2
Antidepressants sometimes have the "side effect" of suicide. Depression is not simply feeling sad, lonely, unloved, etc. You also can lose motivation and energy to do anything--including commit suicide. If you are suicidally depressed, you are not likely to successfully kill yourself. If, however, you begin taking medication, this can give you enough energy and motivation to do so.
Many do find antidepressants helpful in alleviating symptoms so the underlying problems can be addressed.
Szedg 3 years ago
"Antidepressants sometimes have the "side effect" of suicide", "you are not like to successfully kill yourself"
Are you kidding?!
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
THIS HAS TO STOP. I was locked up for 3 months and forced to take anti-psychotics (a few different ones, till they got me on trifluoperazine) and mood-stabalizers (depekote). There was nothing wrong with me! I've been on it for 2yrs, off now and I feel FANSTASTIC. Pyches are KILLERS. "first to no harm". I took prosac voluntarly before which felt awful to begin with, it was not too bad later on. Your right, they do NO tests, and they don't check the EVIDENCE of your grandiose 'desulsions'. Peace
andygray119 3 years ago
This is absolute bullshit. these people are such liars, God what people will do nowadays for money. if this story is even remotely true, then they should understand that a patients might need to try several antidepressants until the right one suits them, and it also needs to be on the right dosage. God are people this stupid nowadays, what is happening to thr world?
slipdude 3 years ago
Oh! Of course, they didn't take enough! Now I see... so if they had have dabbled with different anti-depressants, trying them like smarties, prescribed by 'medical' 'professionals' who don't know which the right one is either, they would have been cured? Maybe we should just get a candy pick and mix style bar installed and you can take a selection with you and just start experimenting?
Your a genius slipdude, thank you.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
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Please go to Yahoo and type in "Horrible Truth About Psychiatric Drugs" to see a research paper exposing these drugs. Also so the search "Documented Proof Psychiatric Drugs Shorten Lifespan". Be sure to include the quotes. You will learn information no psychiatrist will tell you. These drugs destroy fertility and libido and cause impotence and extream disphoria and obesity. The promote suicide and violence not prevent it.
medmatic 3 years ago
"psychiatrists earn more money from drug makers than doctors in any other specialty ... For instance, the more psychiatrists have earned from drug makers, the more they have prescribed a new class of powerful medicines known as atypical antipsychotics to children, for whom the drugs are especially risky and mostly unapproved." - New York Times, June 27, 2007, Psychiatrists Top List in Drug Maker Gifts
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
our brains are fragile things. we know that the chemicals in our brain DO go out of balance (due to drugs such as ecstasy, meth etc). i also believe that this can happen as a result of our environment as we grow up. "mental illness" becomes part of someones natural personality. those people deserve help.
yonskii 3 years ago
Your whole argument falls down at the point where chemical imbalances are not attributable to mental diseases, hence you can't test for mental illnesses physically. SHOW ME THE IMBALANCE IN TESTS PROVE THE MENTAL ILLNESS PHYSICALLY. It's impossible!!! Use some logic for Christ's sake!
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
our chemicals dont go "out of balance" as literal as people say. i said i BELIEVE that it is as natural as growing up and developing character, the chemicals in your brain that alter your mood (seretonin, endorphins etc.) all act in different ways from person to person, accounting for mental illnesses and depression. i personally think everyone is a little bit "insane", if thats what you want to call it. some are just worse than others. they need to be helped.
yonskii 3 years ago
'Bipolar disorder' doesn't exist. It's a name for a supposed physical condition that has been invented. There is no chemical imbalance and there is no evidence to show the brain releases chemicals at "wrong" times. That's the problem with Psychiatry. There is no physical test a doctor can do to prove any of these disorders, hence you can go to 5 Dr's with the same symptoms and be given completely different prescriptions. "More lies from Psychiatry"
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
Lies from Psychiatry?
Do you even know what Depression is? Depression IS a chemical imbalance in the brain. Anti-depressants have side-effects, that's true, which is what this poor child went through.
I personally hate Anti-Depressants, but it's not Psychiatry's fault.
Now, they did no blood test, listen to symptoms, or any of that; that is the Psychiatrist's fault, not Psychiatry. Psychiatry has saved and helped MANY mentally ill people. Don;t give me that "Lies from Psychiatry" crap.
Blackbeanz12 3 years ago
What you're saying doesn't make sense. You're insinuating that anti-depressants work (ie. on the basis that depression is a"chemical imbalance", many anti-depressants should work), yet you don't like them? Explain.
I'm talking about the field of Psychiatry and yes, these are lies from that field (indeed even traditional texts are full of harmful and ineffective techniques). Are you saying you prefer the traditional or the modern texts are correct but individuals are at fault??? make more sense!
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
Allow me to make myself more clear.
Specific anti-depressants work with different chemicals. I don't think I can name too many, but I know Lexapro or Litax(typo?) works with depression or Bipolar Disorder. They also have different side-effects. Now, I don't LIKE them BECAUSE of those side-effects!
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Blackbeanz12 3 years ago
Harmful, innefective techniques? So you saying that Psychiatry is an evil that has not saved countless lives and treated countless people? Yes, there have been mishaps, but being prejudice about said mishaps should not make you think Psychiatry is an evil.
There have been multiple scientology cases(which are on youtube, look them up) in which they didn't allow their members Psychiatric help and they ended up killing them instead of letting them see a Psychiatrist.
Blackbeanz12 3 years ago
Depression is natural state brought about by social / environmental factors. If you take a 'normal' person with no mental health issues and deprive them of sleep for 3 days they will begin to exhibit psychoses; environmental factors inducing a mental state. I watched a family member of mine suffer from depression repeatedly attempt suicide - drugs did not help, they just dulled them. At Chemical Imbalance's core is a $76 Billion dollar industry. There's no cure for normal reactions to life.
yeahiknow987 3 years ago 3
Yes, there is no cure to depression or Bipolar disorder or any other mental illness, but drugs usually help the victim cope with it. I wasn't there to see your family member suffer from depression, so I cannot say the drugs where not effective, or the depression was to great, or whatever.
Anti-Depressants differ between people. People with Bipolar usually benefit with the help of Anti-depressants, as they have a chemical imbalance in the brain that releases ccertain chemicals at wrong times.
Blackbeanz12 3 years ago
they help them cope by dulling their ability to interact with people, they are not cured, it's just an altered mental state.
Drugs do not deal with the root cause. The solution is to deal with whatever the root cause is, coupled with good diet, regular exercise and consistent sleeping patterns, not mind-numbing psychoactive chemicals that alter the brain chemistry from what is a NATURAL state responding to the environment and experiences of that person. There's no pill for a sh1t life mate.
yeahiknow987 3 years ago
of course there is a cure
emmerton 3 years ago
not one found in pharmacology..
yeahiknow987 3 years ago
not in pharmacology,thats true.. cause thats the wrong way
emmerton 3 years ago
DAMN STRAIGHT! Stupid idiots on t he video.
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago 2
Cam anyone find me a conclusive scientific study that ACTUALLY finds a chemical basis for any mental disorder and that a general medication exits to acuractely fix the brain according to that specific imbalance? "We find you are lacking in fluoride..." - used in the Gulag to subdue prisoners - ...so take this here Prozac and all will be back in balance." Check out docs on Richard Feynman about what true science is. I am not against effective phychology, but there are overnight cures, eg EFT.
deagsslook 3 years ago
Spelling: Can anyone find me a conclusive scientific study that ACTUALLY finds a chemical basis for any mental disorder and that a medication exits to accurately fix the brain according to that specific imbalance? "We find you are lacking in fluoride..."(used in the Gulag to subdue prisoners)"...so take this here Prozac and all will be back in balance." Check out docs on Richard Feynman about what true science is. I am not against effective psychology, but there are overnight cures, eg EFT.
deagsslook 3 years ago
I took Lexapro and it changed my life. I suffered from Depression and it has really helped me. Not every drug works for every person. I also noticed in this film that the sister said that he probably stopped off for a drink. He was only 18 and drinking? You are not supposed to drink alcohol while on these types of drugs. I love how the filmmaker left that part out. I guess the Democrats feel that they can run the medical field better than Dr's. They can't even fix our streets!!
indianajoe219 3 years ago
I have a question, where's his father? Maybe he's from a broken home. A single mothermom can't give the type of guidance that a father could. He was probably having issues for years and by the time he finally was taken to a psychiatrist, it was too late. I hate how one kid kills himself, and all of the sudden it's the entire psychiatric field's fault. Maybe he was supposed to keep coming back (which is standard) and the know it all mother said "oh you don't need anymore help".
indianajoe219 3 years ago
it's not just one kid who kills himself indianajoe, there are far too many examples. all the recent gun killings in school that have been so well documented in recent years (eg. Columbine) have the common denominator that these kids were on psych drugs and were largely (all those I read about) non-violent before and suddenly changed for the worse after taking these drugs. Every 'remedy' given has around 20% success rate, this is the placebo effect and it doesn't matter what you give the patient.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
I feel that media perpetrating the peer pressure mentality of superficiality and airs is creating our mental problems. They are setting a standard of superficial worth that makes us have these problems. They have created the perfect world where people can become extremely upset and beat down for not being what NORMAL is supposed to be.
Faridellion 3 years ago
Every single facet of human behavior has been described as a pathological mental disorder.
PoidHater 3 years ago 4
This is about goverment social control
sentyan13 3 years ago 2
Personally I don't even believe that there is something called "bipolar disorder." I just think it's "having emotions."
floridaredhead 3 years ago
they need to invent new illnesses to continue pushing these evil drugs
paulinho4ever 3 years ago
i believe in it. i've been "manic" with racing thoughts, delusions of grandeur, uncharacteristic bouts of anger. normal people don't go around for a week truly believing that they're the messiah.
achmood21 3 years ago
The Biploar part fits because you swing in extreme with "emotions".
JonahTorn 3 years ago
A friend of mine was worsened by them.
Both of my parents were worsened by them (Dad on Paxil, mom on Wellbutrin). Mom stopped taking the Wellbutrin. Dad stopped eating and died.
I have yet to meet one person who has done well on these drugs, and none of these people I personally know are Scientologists. My parents are Methodists. My friend was a Lutheran. Those are not anti-medication religious paths.
floridaredhead 3 years ago
It's a sad story, but I have a hard time believing that drugs were to blame. It sounds like the kid was suicidal before he went on medication. True, the drugs may have failed, but it's a failure stop what he was going to do anyway.
Bombill 3 years ago
Fair point. Best thing is to look at other similar cases, for example Columbine and other high school shootings were perpetrated by kids on psychiatric drugs. There are quite a few more clips around showing that those kids were not violent prior to having taken the drugs, then suddenly changed for the worse.
Just because they are a medical doctor doesn't make them right Bombill.
sebkarlsson 3 years ago
I can feel you pain for Matthew's tragic outcome that, maybe, could have been prevented. Yet, psychiatry brings peace to millions. Just think of those with obsessions & phobias helped by Lexapro or Prozac. "Chemical imbalance" is an expression not a diagnosis and you are right, depression is diagnosed with a clinical evaluation not a blood test. Perhaps he needed hospitalization and time for Lexapro to work or maybe he had bipolar depression, for which it doesn't work.
adhdorbipolar 3 years ago
I've been Biplor for 9 yr's, There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance-NO TEST FOR IT.
If it wasn't for Meds the Psychiatrists
wouldn't have a job, PLEASE look up Gwen Olsen
on this site....
tarquin08 3 years ago 2
It doesn't have anything to do with scientology. All school shooters used psych drugs and they had no violent tendencies before taking it.
At least 63,000 kids have died from taking it. I don't call that a few.
I recommend everyone to have a look at the Gary Null film "The Drugging of our Children".
hajarc 4 years ago
I believe the drug made thing's worse.
hajarc 4 years ago 4
I don't trust anti-depressants either.
Metsada007 4 years ago
Molyneux - Thought, learning and emotion occur via biochemical and electrical signals in our brain. By definition, any mental disorder can be called a 'chemical imbalance' It doesn't tell what is the 'trigger' - did the brain chemistry change us, or did our thoughts change our chemistry? The disorder is a reflection of the biology, and vice versa, they often spiral. Unfortunately we're only at the beginning of understanding this, but that doesn't mean our thoughts and our brain are unrelated.
midnightgardner 4 years ago
When you dream, your body takes what your imagining as reality. The proof of this is that, for example, people sweat when being chased, the heart rate may rises. But also, the in the case of being chased, dopamine levels will increase. Because we have the ability to imagine (unlike animals who don't suffer mental illness) we cause the chemical changes in the brain. When I imagine that car crash I had I may shake and feel on edge and chemical changes that relate to this will occur.
molyneux1000 4 years ago
The chemical change doesn't happen spontaniously. Agree?
molyneux1000 4 years ago
(continued from below) ..but also by diet and lifestyle. CBT is an excellent treatment for depression, your thoughts have a powerful effect on your brain chemistry and vice versa. They are inseparable. Yet, the 'chemical imbalance' theory, isn't that useful because it leads people to believe that their brain chemistry is permanent, beyond their control, and requires medication to correct, when in fact none of that is true. However, to pretend that it doesn't affect us isn't true either.
midnightgardner 4 years ago
I agree, the chemical imbalance therory isn't useful. At least we can agree on one thing. However, even if you could directly measure brain neurotransmitter levels (not peripherals measurments you understand) it still proves little as the depressed mood may be causing the reduced levels in the first place.
molyneux1000 4 years ago
A psychologist demonstrated this to me very well: The guy running round the field sweating. By the logic of the chemcal imbalance theory, you'd say he's running because he is sweating. Of course, this is nonsense. You agree?
molyneux1000 4 years ago
Could I also ask for the study reference please.
molyneux1000 4 years ago
What are you my college professor? lol...
Any Neurological or Psychiatric journal is likely to have lots of research on brain chemistry, including neurotransmitters.
midnightgardner 4 years ago
I just want the article in which they measure direct brain serotonin levels. Until then I'm slightly suspicious :-)
molyneux1000 4 years ago
What happened to this young man is sad and unfortunate. Perhaps we are too quick to break out the medication at the first sign of mental illness. Some anti-depressants have in fact shown to temporarily increase the risk of suicide in young patients. The problem is that untreated depression carries a high risk as well. Critics argue that mental illness is invented, but as a sufferer, I can tell you it's real. We just need to rethink our treatment strategies and keep on the research
midnightgardner 4 years ago
Can I also make clear that I have spent time in a psychiatric hospital as both a patient and currently as a student mental health nurse.
molyneux1000 4 years ago
Emily: FYI, this video is produced by CCHR, a scientology-afilliated org.
But anyway, the 'chemical imbalance' theory is based on research that shows that levels of serotonin and norepinephrine are low in depressed people, and that meds that raise levels of these often help. There are tests that show this, but they're generally not done on an individual basis as it's equally effective to diagnose based on symptoms.
midnightgardner 4 years ago
Midnight, can you please show me the test. Can you make sure the test contains direct measurements of these neurotansmitter in the brain. I'll save you some time. This test does not exist. There is no such test that allows for the direct measurment of brain neurotransmitter levels. Could you also please explain how therepy such as CBT works on depressed patients if what they have is purly biological in nature. I mean you don't give diabetes patients councilling.
molyneux1000 4 years ago
I have to disagree with you about the lack of neurotransmitter level tests. For one example you can take a serum serotonin level or 5-HT level a/k/a 5-hydroxytryptamine level to measure serotonin. Depression is more than just serotonin of course, but it's not true that neurotransmitters can't be measured. Your comment about diabetes is apt, I think it's unfortunate that they don't give diabetes patients counselling, because much like depression, diabetes is affected by not just our biology..
midnightgardner 4 years ago
Never fails to amaze me how much of a foothold the practice of psychaitry has in the modern day world and the sad thing is that anyone who tries to prove that the entire practice is a sham - they are either labelled as crazy themselves, a member of some cult (Scientology), or if they don't know what they are talking about. Even when presented with the facts and figures to back up the view, they still say "Psychaitry is a valid science and exists and is needed".
EmilyGreene1984 4 years ago
the only time i really felt like i was going crazy was when they started me on antidepressants, or had severe withdrawals from them (no withdrawals say doc, LMFAO). the truth is *NO ONE KNOWS* what these drugs do. the tests they run are VERY limited (and a lot of the bad results are covered up). the whole thing is run by the pharmaceutical industry.
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
See, this is a huge problem with psychiatry today. They rely too much on neuroleptics, which do more harm than good. And most of them diagnose too quickly as it is. I hope with newer generations that some of this will change, because a lot of the 'biopsychiatric' theories are kinda faulty. I think psychotherapy and psychoanalysis have much better efficacy than these chemical lobotomies.
arcanedrop 4 years ago 2
the problem is how much can a chemical level differ before there is a 'chemical imbalance' which is arbitrary statement since everyone has differing levels.
Antwon777 4 years ago 2
Again, that's saying it can't be proved. If someone tells me I have a chemical imbalance the logical answer will always be: show me. They can't.
sebkarlsson 4 years ago
ok, a chem. "imabalance", but do you suddenly get a chem. imbalance after someone dies, or has trauma, etc. a lot can be cured thru a differnt environment, talking etc. its not like a lack of vitamin C ffs! for "depression" they give you all sorts of drugs, ssris, snris, antipsychotics, tricyclic, etc. *which* imbalance is it? have you had experience with this or are you just observing? most "imbalances" are caused by adding more "chemicals" in- its a dangerous guessing game
emptyzzzzzz 4 years ago
a blood test would tell you if there was a chemical imbalance fuck wit^^^ i hate the people who have taken snippets of science from tv shows and tom fucking cruise and told this vulnerable mother to spread shit about her story. she is stupid and youre being brainwashed into a war on knowledge!
Antwon777 4 years ago