A live recording of Sgouros in Rach 3 with the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra/Jesús López Cobos was recently broadcast in perfect digital satellite quality. Download it here as mp3 (recording circa mid-1980's):-
Richter says (he has no reason to lie) in an interview that it took him 4 days to learn Prokofiev Sonata No. 7, a week for Rach concerto No. 2 and 2 days for Chasse neige (transcendantal study) by liszt.
actually, my previous comment was a response to one that's two pages before ... someone saying that it took for Sgouros (the guy playing in this video) to learn the entire Rachmaninov's P.Concerto #3 for only 6 days when he was 11. Therefore it may not be too outrageous to think that it was only 4 days for Richter (to learn Prokofiev's 6th Sonata) as far as his interview I read came from a right resource. And, there sure are larger amount of notes in Rach's 3rd P-Con than Proko's 6th Sonata.
One more thing...I think it sounds silly to refer to the third concerto as the Rach3...I know it is easier than saying/writing Rachmaninoff's third concerto, Opus 30 in D minor, but it just sounds kinda.....I don't know....dumb. No disrespect intended towards anyone, just my opinion.
It seems ignorance and jealousy can shadow ones ability to enjoy a different perspective. Is there only one way to perform any piece of music? I sincerely hope not! I love You Tube and with it the opportunity to observe many interpretations of my favorite pieces of musical history. I must add, genius is not only ability and facility, but more importantly includes individuality, passion, and self-worth. Enlightenment is only an open mind away.....
Couldn't have said it better myself. A genious is an enormous talent combined with enourmous volume of work. The only thing is in most cases(excluding Poganini's), that work flows freely and is pleasant and natural. I am a writer, and writing comes easy and naturally to me. It's a lot of hard work,and out of 100 written pieces, usually only 1 is really something the rest rots in the garbage, but all of them were my pleasure and pain.
I'm not impressed by him or any prodigy. Because this guy, like the others, was born this way. He didn't work to get what he has. He just got it by some fluke, being born with it. I am more impressed by someone who has no talent and is able to achieve something great by working hard. Not by some machine who did nothing to earn what he has.
If a guy has no talent, no hard work will make him talented. Talent is not a matter of motoric facility. It includes all other facets to be an artist. Personality, emotional capacity to express musical feelings & imagination into sound & and project it to his audience. Most if not all are in a way or the other were prodigies who are making it in this profession. There is no need to be prejudice about it. It's t way it is!
I should have been more clear. Im not prejudice. I agree with you somewhat, but the point I was making was that it would take an average person years and years of hard work to reach this level. Some may never make it. But this person just had it from the start. The same as mozart did and chopin and others. Im more impressed with this one, someone who becomes good through hard work. Not someone who is good from the start.
Real talents are formed by good training right from the time they started their first lesson with the right teacher - who is both a real musician & pedagogue. Every teacher never really knows who becomes a genius or not,until a child comes for their first lesson. But not because they are prodigies, that they don't work very ,very hard beyond their age!!!! Sad to say, many had missed their childhood just playing the piano, and still failed to have a career!
@tiklado07 Lazar Berman used to say to his students: * Play piano and be happy for such a treasure as music. If the career does not come, you still have all the reasons to be happy... you have the Music i*
There are some musicians who can take a score to bed, read it and play it back by memory the next day. Living with the music and going "in depth" is a totally different story.
A good point - evidenced by the fact that Sgouros has effectively disappeared off the face of the earth. He's nearly 40 now, what has done since his child-prodigy days?
According to an interview given by Dimitri Sgouros many years ago, it took him 6 days to learn and play the Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto #3, at the age of thirteen !!!!!
That is absolutely impossible! How can anyone believe this? He must be tooked several months to play it - at least!! (or years.... who knows?). We are talking abouth Rach 3.... one of the most hard pieces to play... even to very experient pianists! Even if he was a prodigy genius... 6 days its impossible!
Genius sometimes defies the wildest imagination. I am sure about hearing him say it during an interview. The late great pianist Yuri Boukoff told me that he learned to play the Prokofiev 3d in 30 days, and he learned it while on tour! My teacher Ignace Tiegerman another great pianist performed it (Prokofiev 3d) after practicing it, for15 days !!!!!
I heard that, when Sviatoslav Richter did the performance-premiere for Prokofiev's Sonata # 6, he learned it for 4 days right before the performance day. (but I don't know how old he was at that time). Is that true?
If you mean he learned and memorized the entire thing in 4 days, I'm positive that is not possible. No matter how good of a pianist you are, there is a VERY large amount of notes in this, 4 days is just not enough time.
i saw argerich,probably rubinstein,rostropovich of course among other interesting things...you must be quite close with sgouros himself to have access to this footage....
A live recording of Sgouros in Rach 3 with the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra/Jesús López Cobos was recently broadcast in perfect digital satellite quality. Download it here as mp3 (recording circa mid-1980's):-
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cvxmelody 3 years ago
Alternate link:-
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cvxmelody 6 months ago
Richter says (he has no reason to lie) in an interview that it took him 4 days to learn Prokofiev Sonata No. 7, a week for Rach concerto No. 2 and 2 days for Chasse neige (transcendantal study) by liszt.
Believe me, its true
adistar 3 years ago
Not that I'm disputing that fact but how would you know if it's true or not?
lscully3 2 years ago
and that comes from a man who stated that he never practiced over 3 hours a day...
FliegendeHollaender 2 years ago
@adistar I am familiar with those pieces. They are all on my favorites. Could you describe more of this to me? what else did he say?
Martel211996 1 year ago
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IdaDenmark 3 years ago
The Older man on 0:34 is my violin teacher
ppgirl94 3 years ago
Herbert von Karajan was your violin teacher?
Invisus944 2 years ago
No, Lazar Gozman the guy with white hair
ppgirl94 2 years ago
actually, my previous comment was a response to one that's two pages before ... someone saying that it took for Sgouros (the guy playing in this video) to learn the entire Rachmaninov's P.Concerto #3 for only 6 days when he was 11. Therefore it may not be too outrageous to think that it was only 4 days for Richter (to learn Prokofiev's 6th Sonata) as far as his interview I read came from a right resource. And, there sure are larger amount of notes in Rach's 3rd P-Con than Proko's 6th Sonata.
ebonyknight9000 3 years ago
Lmfao wonder what Rachmaninoff woulda said. A 13 year old :D
habahaba123456789 4 years ago
He was even stunned when he heard that a 17 year old (horowitz) was performing it.
fongpayman123 3 years ago
One more thing...I think it sounds silly to refer to the third concerto as the Rach3...I know it is easier than saying/writing Rachmaninoff's third concerto, Opus 30 in D minor, but it just sounds kinda.....I don't know....dumb. No disrespect intended towards anyone, just my opinion.
psymonjoseph 4 years ago
actually in my opinion the worst truncation is Rach Pag
evolutionist 4 years ago
It seems ignorance and jealousy can shadow ones ability to enjoy a different perspective. Is there only one way to perform any piece of music? I sincerely hope not! I love You Tube and with it the opportunity to observe many interpretations of my favorite pieces of musical history. I must add, genius is not only ability and facility, but more importantly includes individuality, passion, and self-worth. Enlightenment is only an open mind away.....
psymonjoseph 4 years ago
Tiklado 07 is absolutely right.
Couldn't have said it better myself. A genious is an enormous talent combined with enourmous volume of work. The only thing is in most cases(excluding Poganini's), that work flows freely and is pleasant and natural. I am a writer, and writing comes easy and naturally to me. It's a lot of hard work,and out of 100 written pieces, usually only 1 is really something the rest rots in the garbage, but all of them were my pleasure and pain.
avatarofsound 4 years ago
I'm not impressed by him or any prodigy. Because this guy, like the others, was born this way. He didn't work to get what he has. He just got it by some fluke, being born with it. I am more impressed by someone who has no talent and is able to achieve something great by working hard. Not by some machine who did nothing to earn what he has.
Jundasour 4 years ago
If a guy has no talent, no hard work will make him talented. Talent is not a matter of motoric facility. It includes all other facets to be an artist. Personality, emotional capacity to express musical feelings & imagination into sound & and project it to his audience. Most if not all are in a way or the other were prodigies who are making it in this profession. There is no need to be prejudice about it. It's t way it is!
tiklado07 4 years ago 6
I should have been more clear. Im not prejudice. I agree with you somewhat, but the point I was making was that it would take an average person years and years of hard work to reach this level. Some may never make it. But this person just had it from the start. The same as mozart did and chopin and others. Im more impressed with this one, someone who becomes good through hard work. Not someone who is good from the start.
Jundasour 4 years ago
Real talents are formed by good training right from the time they started their first lesson with the right teacher - who is both a real musician & pedagogue. Every teacher never really knows who becomes a genius or not,until a child comes for their first lesson. But not because they are prodigies, that they don't work very ,very hard beyond their age!!!! Sad to say, many had missed their childhood just playing the piano, and still failed to have a career!
tiklado07 4 years ago 4
@tiklado07 Lazar Berman used to say to his students: * Play piano and be happy for such a treasure as music. If the career does not come, you still have all the reasons to be happy... you have the Music i*
corlando80 1 year ago
for sure.
piedijon 4 years ago
which cadenza did he play?
lacrymosa85 4 years ago
To play Rach3 at age 13, he must be very gifted. With that said, however, there's more to music than just playing the right notes.
jzer21 4 years ago
There are some musicians who can take a score to bed, read it and play it back by memory the next day. Living with the music and going "in depth" is a totally different story.
nestorar 4 years ago
A good point - evidenced by the fact that Sgouros has effectively disappeared off the face of the earth. He's nearly 40 now, what has done since his child-prodigy days?
magdluke 4 years ago
Played concerts all over the world...
lscully3 2 years ago
Excellent piece, I found free sheet music for it on SheetMusicFox DOT com and absolutely love it!
pianoparadise 4 years ago
Thanks slava
lrodor 4 years ago
According to an interview given by Dimitri Sgouros many years ago, it took him 6 days to learn and play the Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto #3, at the age of thirteen !!!!!
stephenTGV 4 years ago
That is absolutely impossible! How can anyone believe this? He must be tooked several months to play it - at least!! (or years.... who knows?). We are talking abouth Rach 3.... one of the most hard pieces to play... even to very experient pianists! Even if he was a prodigy genius... 6 days its impossible!
extremist85 4 years ago
Genius sometimes defies the wildest imagination. I am sure about hearing him say it during an interview. The late great pianist Yuri Boukoff told me that he learned to play the Prokofiev 3d in 30 days, and he learned it while on tour! My teacher Ignace Tiegerman another great pianist performed it (Prokofiev 3d) after practicing it, for15 days !!!!!
stephenTGV 4 years ago
I heard that, when Sviatoslav Richter did the performance-premiere for Prokofiev's Sonata # 6, he learned it for 4 days right before the performance day. (but I don't know how old he was at that time). Is that true?
ebonyknight9000 3 years ago
If you mean he learned and memorized the entire thing in 4 days, I'm positive that is not possible. No matter how good of a pianist you are, there is a VERY large amount of notes in this, 4 days is just not enough time.
thatiswrong 3 years ago
it is possible believe me !
EilisErina 3 years ago
oh, no. He did.
achilless 3 years ago
a great vid thanks
chad410 4 years ago
i saw argerich,probably rubinstein,rostropovich of course among other interesting things...you must be quite close with sgouros himself to have access to this footage....
DoctorGradus 4 years ago
nj cvxmelody. thanks for this great video.
luganskymichelangeli 4 years ago