This method WORKS! I tried for a month and a half before turning to the Grape approach: water and flour (white, wheat, white/wheat, white/rye), water and pineapple juice. I tried inside, outside, by a window, on the stove, cover ajar, cheesecloth, etc. Nothing but heartbreak and disappointment until the Grape Relief. Now I just wish I could find her recipe for bread... !
Sourdough snobbery !!?!! Ha! Who would of thought... Who are you people?
"This is all wrong. you do not use grapes to make a starter" and "it look very dirty and unclean"....etc. If it works, don't knock it.
She did say its a starter from Nancy Silverton from La Brea Bakery (tried and tested?). Google it, check out the site. They have bakeries in London and Dublin too. I'm guessing they are good at what they do; probably better than you.
Hey to all you moaners and groaners out there... this is "One" way of doing it... there isnt only one way to make a sourdough starter ya dip shits. Get your head out of your ass's and like it try it or dont.
You do NOT want to use grapes in your sourdough starter. Grapes do have wild yeast on them, but it is wild yeast that feeds off grapes and not wheat. You are introducing the incorrect type of wild yeast to your starter. Just rely on the wild yeasts that are already present in the flour and omit the grapes. The water and flour should be measured by weight and not volume. You also need to feed a starter every day if you are leaving it at room temperature.
@waynechung81 about measurements, this is a starter, not an actual bake, you don't need to be so prissy about volume vs weight.
No, yeast found on grapes are the same type that's used for wine and bread.
Historically speaking, alcohol yeast, namely from beer brewers were the original source of baker's yeast.
Third, you don't need to keep feeding starters everyday if you have grapes in them, grapes have a good amount of complex sugars that will constantly replenish the yeast's diet.
This is a really big batch! You can actually start a batch with 1 grape, but it just takes longer. Just make sure the grape(s) you use have a dull, powdery-looking surface, because the whitish material on the grape skin is the yeast.
I know with all that cook book money nancy silverton can afford yeast.That method you are using is a shot in the dark,the chances of you obtaining a strong yeast strain with a good flavor profile and rising performance is mute.Those grapes have to be fresh picked from a vineyard to have any cell counts
This method WORKS! I tried for a month and a half before turning to the Grape approach: water and flour (white, wheat, white/wheat, white/rye), water and pineapple juice. I tried inside, outside, by a window, on the stove, cover ajar, cheesecloth, etc. Nothing but heartbreak and disappointment until the Grape Relief. Now I just wish I could find her recipe for bread... !
GopiRasa 9 months ago
Sourdough snobbery !!?!! Ha! Who would of thought... Who are you people?
"This is all wrong. you do not use grapes to make a starter" and "it look very dirty and unclean"....etc. If it works, don't knock it.
She did say its a starter from Nancy Silverton from La Brea Bakery (tried and tested?). Google it, check out the site. They have bakeries in London and Dublin too. I'm guessing they are good at what they do; probably better than you.
krsboob 1 year ago 2
Hey to all you moaners and groaners out there... this is "One" way of doing it... there isnt only one way to make a sourdough starter ya dip shits. Get your head out of your ass's and like it try it or dont.
Brownslocksmith 1 year ago
this looks very bad way to make starter or anything. it look very dirty and unclean.
jimi5800 1 year ago
You do NOT want to use grapes in your sourdough starter. Grapes do have wild yeast on them, but it is wild yeast that feeds off grapes and not wheat. You are introducing the incorrect type of wild yeast to your starter. Just rely on the wild yeasts that are already present in the flour and omit the grapes. The water and flour should be measured by weight and not volume. You also need to feed a starter every day if you are leaving it at room temperature.
waynechung81 1 year ago
@waynechung81 about measurements, this is a starter, not an actual bake, you don't need to be so prissy about volume vs weight.
No, yeast found on grapes are the same type that's used for wine and bread.
Historically speaking, alcohol yeast, namely from beer brewers were the original source of baker's yeast.
Third, you don't need to keep feeding starters everyday if you have grapes in them, grapes have a good amount of complex sugars that will constantly replenish the yeast's diet.
PerfectionObsessive 1 year ago
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waynechung81 1 year ago
This is all wrong. you do not use grapes to make a starter
austrilopithicene 1 year ago
This is a really interesting starter. Starting a batch today and will post how it turns out
memphis0162 1 year ago
Why pound, the yeast that you are after is on the outside of the grape, which you don't need anyway.
737Pilot122 1 year ago
THIS is GROSSE :D
onxiaftw 1 year ago
this is the best sourdough starter instruction on youtube. quick and to the point. now, when do we get to see you use it?! :)
primate924 2 years ago
if the wild yeast i son the grapes then why wash them first?
rynolove 2 years ago
This is a really big batch! You can actually start a batch with 1 grape, but it just takes longer. Just make sure the grape(s) you use have a dull, powdery-looking surface, because the whitish material on the grape skin is the yeast.
boohoogetalife 2 years ago
I really like Nancy Silverton, who first turned me on to grape starter - it worked!
But I just did it again and nothing!
What went wrong?
Do I have bad water?
picklehead7 2 years ago
Wild yeasts are on the outside of the grapes,
I do the same but use them straight away, no washing
richardwadd 2 years ago
I know with all that cook book money nancy silverton can afford yeast.That method you are using is a shot in the dark,the chances of you obtaining a strong yeast strain with a good flavor profile and rising performance is mute.Those grapes have to be fresh picked from a vineyard to have any cell counts
Doughnutchef 3 years ago 2
@Doughnutchef
MOOT
loki1066 1 year ago
@Doughnutchef hey is that the film that forms on the grapes in my yard??
boxa888 1 year ago
so what are the grapes for?
lenhoj85 3 years ago