37:00 - WHAT?? VTables break if there are terabytes of memory-mapped files? That's nonsense. What is he trying to say? And how is load-hit-store connected with all that?
@sergrojGrayFace consider that you just take a chunk of memory (off a hard drive) and static_cast it and take it for a class, if the class has any virtual methods it will have a vtable. The vtable method pointers in there will break if you save and load. (very simplified)
I wonder why he mentioned this and not the fact that save games would have been incompatible across platforms, that seems like a bigger problem to me and is not solvable without throwing all the benefits away.
@Kulik0 Thanks, that clears it. I think that kind of full state persistence approach has no future. Even in a scripting language like Lua it's problematic for big projects. For example, if you install an interface mod or a patch that fixes something, you'd want it applied without restarting your whole progress. Saves corruption is also much less frequent than program crashes now, which wouldn't be the case with such persistence. Maybe he only meant storing the initial state of level.
Yes Rage was good...ID makes great gameplay, don't get me wrong. Quake was some of the best PvP experience I've ever had. But they lack story and depth in their games IMO. People might disagree with me but I believe ID Software does amazing gameplay. Just not enough Lore behind their games. Just ruins the game for me if you play a game for like 5 hours and are done.
I'll risk making a fool out of myself and firmly disagree. Even with 4 order of magnitudes more power, efficiency matters. Raytracing is the bogosort of illumination, period.
@RobotTed But quakelive everyone forces keel the roboot model that is very easy to see and hear, Most quake players are not casuel gamers because of the huge learning curve even with tutoirals it takes alot of time to learn timing weapons, spawns,maps,making configs,hardware,aim,stafe jumping,rocket jumping. i do like that they need not close it because it did bring in some quake players who played q3,2 and still play quakelive. Quake live was huge in beta but its now went back down again.
@Psyshimmer Sadly they already have. If you look back at the last few to come out they didn't do well at all. Quake 4 was a massive failure, Unreal Tournament III was DOA and Quake Live is niche where its mostly old school fps players playing so it hasn't grown much.
@Felonious405 When I say 'die' I mean stop being produced entirely. Of course they'll never be as popular as they once were. The mainstream FPS fanbase doesn't like hard games anymore.
@UnitedKingdomify haha. I have wet dreams for Quake 5 Arena. Because if they do another multiplayer game only it will be a fast production wich I think is a smart move for them.
It's funny to see the transition from fat guys with great confidence to shy and puny little skinny guys without any. You never know which way it's gonna be XD
Sad to hear that QL is not a business success, not that I wasn't expecting a different outcome. But I hope they release Quake 5 and it's awesome and makes them a bunch of money :)
@supralex1 Well it will be Rage2, id themselves confirmed :) But they're getting lots of new workers, I doubt that after Rage they will only work on 1 project at a time, I'm sure they'll have teams working on separate games. Although after Doom4 (which won't be called Doom4), I'd rather they start working on the sequel, just cuz I'm a full Doom fan
Quake Live can be a success if there was enough advertisement for the game, and better features for premium/pro subscriptions.
In my opinion, even though with all the lack of the advertisement of the game, its still doing pretty good. I'm surprised it even has solid community.
1:06:10 "...and we're internalizing some of those lessons..." This is sad to hear. Sounds like they're leaning towards the dumbed-down model of modern games over the more skilled games like Quake.
virginity is strong in the audience
drumstheo 3 days ago
what about Doom 4
commoncrater 4 days ago
"i"
ford460v8 2 weeks ago
that was quite amazing
NoobScratcher 3 weeks ago
i did not understand any thing he said.
MrFartneck2 1 month ago
37:00 - WHAT?? VTables break if there are terabytes of memory-mapped files? That's nonsense. What is he trying to say? And how is load-hit-store connected with all that?
sergrojGrayFace 1 month ago
@sergrojGrayFace consider that you just take a chunk of memory (off a hard drive) and static_cast it and take it for a class, if the class has any virtual methods it will have a vtable. The vtable method pointers in there will break if you save and load. (very simplified)
I wonder why he mentioned this and not the fact that save games would have been incompatible across platforms, that seems like a bigger problem to me and is not solvable without throwing all the benefits away.
Kulik0 1 month ago
@Kulik0 Thanks, that clears it. I think that kind of full state persistence approach has no future. Even in a scripting language like Lua it's problematic for big projects. For example, if you install an interface mod or a patch that fixes something, you'd want it applied without restarting your whole progress. Saves corruption is also much less frequent than program crashes now, which wouldn't be the case with such persistence. Maybe he only meant storing the initial state of level.
sergrojGrayFace 1 month ago
@editconfig
Bethesda
KoRL12 1 month ago
Yes Rage was good...ID makes great gameplay, don't get me wrong. Quake was some of the best PvP experience I've ever had. But they lack story and depth in their games IMO. People might disagree with me but I believe ID Software does amazing gameplay. Just not enough Lore behind their games. Just ruins the game for me if you play a game for like 5 hours and are done.
Belzabub2 3 months ago
@Belzabub2
No one disagrees that ID stories suck, but most will disagree that it matters.
xalener 3 months ago
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Scottzgar 4 months ago
HOLODECK BITCHES!!!!!! -load the playboy calender shoot program!
temporaldisplacement 4 months ago
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Scottzgar 4 months ago
Doom 4 comes out the same day as Half Life 3
LoneSniperFox 4 months ago
@LoneSniperFox Awesome, so August 12th 2045 then.....
faisca5 3 months ago
Unlike Blizzfag Entertainment, Carmack isn't such a great businessman but a pioneer of game engines and a "home-made" programmer. Best of the best.
MrUser2312 4 months ago 2
I see Carmack was nervous becouse he was lying and now the programmers will have to build new dedicated servers to what carmack said on 0:06:45 ! xD
darkdevil905 4 months ago
Rage is the new daikatana.
renoxzor 4 months ago
@renoxzor Except Rage is good.
Cyberdemon531 4 months ago in playlist Liked 4
wow he's swearing...
xMooD1 4 months ago
@xMooD1
Rage, Quake and Doom ain't no "E for Everyone"!
Mikemc 4 months ago
crap
Ambiena10 4 months ago
Very intelligent man
1Warlord1st1 4 months ago
There is something really compelling about the way he talks.
KhajiitDovahkiin 4 months ago 3
I already pre order Rage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS3ULTIMATE500 5 months ago
carmack is god
utubeaccount00 5 months ago 2
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Thumbs up if this guy looks like Hutch with glasses.
LucifersArgument 5 months ago
skyrim general discussion herp derp
MrBlooDudette 5 months ago 2
The google transcribed captions are actuallyt pretty good.
MouthofSaurons 5 months ago
Great guy on there. ;-)
OrbEze 5 months ago
I wish this video was louder :(..... I have everything maxed out
flawns 6 months ago
@flawns ...headphones
MetalHeadProductionz 6 months ago
@MetalHeadProductionz YUP! im on it!..... oh well
flawns 6 months ago
I have no absolutely no idea what he's talking about, but it sounds REALLY cool.
ArchimedesTheGreat 6 months ago
20:45
I'll risk making a fool out of myself and firmly disagree. Even with 4 order of magnitudes more power, efficiency matters. Raytracing is the bogosort of illumination, period.
QUINTIX256 6 months ago
Great questions.
morph611 6 months ago
console gamer at the end: moron.
kindle139 6 months ago
actually hes starting to make sense lol
EVS2585 6 months ago
i also like how he is very honest about the game - unlike most producers over-hyping every bland and deja-vu aspect of the game...
EVS2585 6 months ago 19
omg, this is the longest ive listened to someone not knowing what the fuck they are saying...
EVS2585 6 months ago 18
@EVS2585
btw - that's a compliment to carmack and possibly a less than flattering description of myself.
EVS2585 6 months ago
@EVS2585 I know what he's saying :)
tttc 1 month ago
I have high hopes for Shootmania. Not modding but democratic for sure.
orrinization 6 months ago
John Carmack could sell me used tampons
sprengfeildx 6 months ago
2 ppl dosent know what hes talking about
TompanX 6 months ago
Still playing Doom II !
ExtremeBogom 6 months ago
@ExtremeBogom welcome
TompanX 6 months ago
6:37 "hmmm..."
then higher pitch: "hmmm....."
Hehe, typical Carmack hummm-ming :)
megalodonNL 6 months ago 2
I wish John Carmack was my dad
boschys 6 months ago
I really wish companies listen more to John Carmack... Then looking up there own ass, as they normally do ^^
TheAronDark 6 months ago
i wish theyd stop applauding after every question
psionicman 6 months ago
Carmack is cute <3 he still looks young for his age.
hazzard82 6 months ago
Quake arena should try and go League of legend model. Sell fancy skins or new animations. Sell cosmetic extras that make you cool. It makes money.
RobotTed 6 months ago
@RobotTed But quakelive everyone forces keel the roboot model that is very easy to see and hear, Most quake players are not casuel gamers because of the huge learning curve even with tutoirals it takes alot of time to learn timing weapons, spawns,maps,making configs,hardware,aim,stafe jumping,rocket jumping. i do like that they need not close it because it did bring in some quake players who played q3,2 and still play quakelive. Quake live was huge in beta but its now went back down again.
diz096 6 months ago
modding + social networking = github
cgpilk 6 months ago
0:07:30 <-- scumbag steve lookalike??
KMLVIDEOS 6 months ago
Thanks for uploading this.
KMLVIDEOS 6 months ago
What Microsoft code analysis tool did John mention while answering the question about static cody analysis? I've catched only PVS-Studio
iDmitryYakovlev 6 months ago
@iDmitryYakovlev He called it "Analyze" and "Microsoft Analysis" so I don't know if that's just a pet name but he said it's in every 360 dev kit.
orrinization 6 months ago
@orrinization it's an option from within visual studio ultimate.
biotopian 6 months ago
It makes me sad to hear that Quake Live is the flop I always suspected it was. Hopefully fast-paced PC arena shooters never die.
Psyshimmer 6 months ago 2
@Psyshimmer Sadly they already have. If you look back at the last few to come out they didn't do well at all. Quake 4 was a massive failure, Unreal Tournament III was DOA and Quake Live is niche where its mostly old school fps players playing so it hasn't grown much.
Felonious405 6 months ago
@Felonious405 When I say 'die' I mean stop being produced entirely. Of course they'll never be as popular as they once were. The mainstream FPS fanbase doesn't like hard games anymore.
Psyshimmer 6 months ago
1 dislike brought to you by - Tim Sweeney
Jeppyh 6 months ago 5
@Jeppyh Justin Bieber in glasses?
stewieisthelord 6 months ago
@Jeppyh Why would he be mad? He's probably made more off the unreal engine and gears of war than you can imagine.
Felonious405 6 months ago
@Felonious405 I should have used {sarcasm} brackets.
Jeppyh 6 months ago
Can't wait for RAGE. Probably still be playing the balls off it when Doom 4 comes out. But Quake...
... I had a dream about Quake V, and it was fucking epic. It was a very wet dream. I'm not embarrassed.
UnitedKingdomify 6 months ago
@UnitedKingdomify haha. I have wet dreams for Quake 5 Arena. Because if they do another multiplayer game only it will be a fast production wich I think is a smart move for them.
nils4545 6 months ago
when is doom 4 coming out!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:O
slipknot3597 6 months ago
awesome video
MrTimur72299 6 months ago
It's funny to see the transition from fat guys with great confidence to shy and puny little skinny guys without any. You never know which way it's gonna be XD
MTZTayko 6 months ago
20:50 get a new confidence dude!
CssHDmonster 6 months ago
Legendary!
LDawgNL 6 months ago
Thumbs Up if you're mentally handicapped!
maesse 6 months ago 17
Sad to hear that QL is not a business success, not that I wasn't expecting a different outcome. But I hope they release Quake 5 and it's awesome and makes them a bunch of money :)
AbortedSheepFetus 6 months ago
I just watched the keynote and the Q&A without a break
scorpian007 6 months ago 3
Never mind.... :(
supralex1 6 months ago
I hope the project after Doom 4 is Quake 5
supralex1 6 months ago
@supralex1 I would say that is almost certain, Quake is Carmacks baby
PlayingGilly 6 months ago
@supralex1 Well it will be Rage2, id themselves confirmed :) But they're getting lots of new workers, I doubt that after Rage they will only work on 1 project at a time, I'm sure they'll have teams working on separate games. Although after Doom4 (which won't be called Doom4), I'd rather they start working on the sequel, just cuz I'm a full Doom fan
MTZTayko 6 months ago
@supralex1 I hope so. But I wonder if they are going to go for an old-school multiplayer mode or a modern-like multiplayer rank up mode.
TheFirG 6 months ago
I'm pretty disappointed that there was no news on Doom 4 this year, but at least Rage will be good. I hope.
ShadowLord32 6 months ago
Bacon Strips &
Bacon Strips
aldude3 6 months ago
We want Flying Saucers!
Sainter 6 months ago
6:36 - lol. What was that?
farooqaaa 6 months ago
@farooqaaa It's John Carmacks mega famous car sound. It basicly means he's agreeing. :P
nils4545 6 months ago
lol i is famous!
faijeff 6 months ago
Things to remember: Doom 4 & Rage 2
yoomazir 6 months ago
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU OH MY GO OH MY GOD FINALLY A FULL KEYNOTE THANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNK YOU !
stewox1 6 months ago 6
A 3 hour non stop conference?! That's dedication :)
FUJERE2 6 months ago 7
Quake Live can be a success if there was enough advertisement for the game, and better features for premium/pro subscriptions.
In my opinion, even though with all the lack of the advertisement of the game, its still doing pretty good. I'm surprised it even has solid community.
genecrazy 6 months ago
1:06:10 "...and we're internalizing some of those lessons..." This is sad to hear. Sounds like they're leaning towards the dumbed-down model of modern games over the more skilled games like Quake.
hambone1138 6 months ago
I would have loved to hear Carmack's thoughts on the demoscene, both now and back in the day.
idroM90 6 months ago
amazing guy.Most honest guy in the gaming industry.
XFX40 6 months ago 8
Thanks for uploading this! Just love these every year,
Fleshreap 6 months ago
Is he humming whenever people clap?
NickJDay 6 months ago
holy crap I thought I'd never see the Q&A! I was dying to see it XD
MouthofSaurons 6 months ago
I wish I had a brain like his. -_-
Mrhawk105 6 months ago 4
@Mrhawk105
You can, you just have to work at it :)
RRtoiPPiotRR 6 months ago
@RRtoiPPiotRR Easier said than done. -_-'
Mrhawk105 6 months ago
FInally!!!! :D
OneManAndHisToaster 6 months ago
There's a huge community around QuakeLive, Mr Carmack, you don't really need fresh blood, just a proper team working on the game...
SkurwysynKerror 6 months ago
I respect him so much. More then any other person in IT/gaming industry.
Raessentia 6 months ago 15
Better late than never!
TurinTur 6 months ago
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Thumbs Up if John Carmack bought you here!
meetajhu 6 months ago 214
@meetajhu I was brought here for John Carmack
PS: When is Carmackgedon 3 coming up? (+3 Internets if you get the reference)
frag971 6 months ago
@meetajhu NO, he did not buy me.
Jahooba 6 months ago
@Jahooba Come on, don't bullshit me!
gotubeogle 6 months ago
@gotubeogle Look, I know Carmack is rich and all, but I would never sell myself to him.
Jahooba 6 months ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you thank you -- for this Q&A recording! I was afraid it wouldn't get online. Thanks.
littlesandra87 6 months ago 143
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Go die nigga
ChavezpK 6 months ago
I prepurchased Rage because of the included developer tools. In this day and age of DRM/DLC including your development tools is a huge boon.
spywez 6 months ago