The movie is not good. It does'nt put in relief the issues, it's sentimental hollywoodian in the bad sense of the term. It's not history. It was a condeferation of Indians who were in war. The before is not presented. The political issues of the conflict between UK and US.The picture lacks money. Poor figuration. It's just a drama searching to convey a human figure to Indians as if americans thought always they have not. A pity. Racism in film. Indians appear americanized heroes in a B film.
the birthing part reminds me of alex haley's roots; they both gave birth standing up and hold on to a wooden pole. Native and African women are strong as hell
As an African woman, I can TOTALLY empathize with first nation people. 100,000 of my tribesmen were brutally assassinated by the barbaric colonizers and my grand-father was one of those killed. They poured napalm on my village and I am eagerly waiting for white supremacy to collapse
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Indigenous people have the key to the a sustainable world, the white man's way is killing us all culturally, economically and especially ecologically
@goyavesETmangues dont blame all white people. i empathise with you and all other people who were harmed by the white man. and i am white myself but i am also related to tecumseh. i believe everyone has the right to freedom. but dont blame a single race for something that happened long ago. living in america is an example of how everyone can get along if they can respect and tolerate each other. it wasnt right, slavery, racism, driving out indians. if i had lived then i wouldve tried to stop it.
@radiantnakashima If you wanted to stop slavery, driving out of indians, etc etc.. then you would of had to attack tribes such as the cherokee which had been doing this to other south eastern tribes for hundreds of years. These cherokee even try to do this today against all non federal native people. The northern indians have been enslaving southern indians .. stealing land.. and murdering southern tribes for hundreds and hundreds of years.
@radiantnakashima The federal cherokee was actually pretty much the largest slave owners in american history. They even recently broke the treaty of 1866 and kicked all their slave descendants out in the cold. Youtube search "cherokee freedman" and learn the truth.
“But one of the most persistent traits of the Western white man has always been his fanatical and almost instinctive assumption that his systems and ideas about the world are the most desirable, n further, that people who do not aspire to them, or at least think them admirable, are savages or enemies.The idea that Western thought might be exotic if viewed from another landscape never presents itself to most Westerners”
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Amiri Baraka (formerly known as LeRoi Jones) in his book Blues People
@goyavesETmangues Yeah Whites fucked up the New Zealanders, Native Americans, Hawaiians, South Americans (Genocide of the Tribes), and many millions of Africans. But don't forget dat Europeans have killed and enslaved each other the most. So It's not like all whites have saw eye to eye and conspired against other races together. Hell many whites couldn't even stand each other.It's also a true that many Natives joined white armies and fought against their own kind just like Africans.
My comments were about WHITE SUPREMACY which is an ideology and hence was adopted by the Africans or Indians who willfully joined European armies. But let's be clear here, the overwhelming majority of them were forced to do so
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Also whiteness is a social construct. The other Europeans who were victims of it were mostly Jews and gypsies, that doesn't make it any less disgusting, obscene, and vile !! And it has gotten WORSE, destroying indigenous people and the planet!
@Spawn86327 The native people who sided with the whites to attack other native people did so because those tribes had stolen their land before the whites got here and those tribes had been kidnaping us to sell us into slavery or just to kill us. so when the whites got here we sided with them to seek justice against the tribes that had stolen our lands such as the Cherokee who falsly claim our land as theirs and falsly claim our heritage as theirs.
well i live i ohio and everyone in my town knows about him hell did everyone fall asleep in history class idk seems to me everyone is spitten off facts that they seem to pull out of thin air lol come to chillicothe ohio we have a whole outdoor drama on him in his life or just watch the movie both r about the same
In the Polish novel the white man adopted into this tribe who was a friend of Tecumseh and his people, was actually a Polish man named Ryszard (Richard) Koss, as I remember well... :-) He was always a friend of Indian people and he was respected among them and treated as one of them. He lived like them and ate what they did. He was a warrior like them and he never betrayed them. :-) I am Polish and proud to be. :-)
I would like to, once in my life at least, meet a real Indian and be able to tell him face to face, how much it hurts me what the white men did to his nation in the past...! To me, everyone is equal regardless of their ethnic origin, race or religion. As I get to know about any injustice done to anyone, group or individual, I feel as if I could live it by myself - I feel compassion and strong solidarity with the suffering ones. I have a strong sense of justice, thanks God, so I respect Indians..
@aishakafeel I'm not full blooded but my mother is Cherokee but shes not a member of the tribe and what i know her reaction would be is she would tell you thanks then be thinking what a dumbass you are.
@aishakafeel Native Americans were not/are not some magical hippie people. They were/are and will be exactly the same as any other homosapien, the history of violence and brutality is mirrored in human actions in all corners of the world.
@GatesOfHell4 If by "politically correct" you mean not using the term "Indian," have you ever actually asked an American Indian? I am a smidgen Cherokee, but my girlfriend is an enrolled member of a tribe here in Washington and calls herself both "Indian" and "Native American." Furthermore, many First People use the shorthand "NDN" to describe themselves. So before everyone gets their panties in a wad and offended for everyone else... ask the people who are allegedly offended first... OK?
@aishakafeel Well the ative people was fighting and pushing each other off lands with each other since the start of tribes in america. We was not peace loving hippies by any means. Like even the Cherokee was actually from canada.. they pushed southward and pushed and killed many of the Native people off their lands. The Siouans was even pushed into virginia by groups like the cherokee. The creeks was pushed south by the cherokee also.
One of the biggest issues we face today is groups like the Federal cherokee which attacks eastern native descendants to this day and calls them fake indians simply because we signed our lands away to england, since our treaties was with england we are not able to get federal recognigtion. To this day not one tribe in virginia is federally recognized.
and it was the white man's greedy nature that has exterminated the Indians Yahi... In the 20th century however, Indians were viewed as I myself do - as a virgin culture, untouched by civilisation, they were often associated with innocence, independence and certain mystery. Children's most popular play was to play Indians. Tones of novels and books were written about Indians of America. It was the century of change in our perception of indigenous people...
Tecumseh! It means: Jumping Leopard... It was the name of Indian who fought in the war between Canada and Union in Canadian army as general because Canada protected his tribe, according to the famous 'Indian trilogy' of a Polish novelist Longin Jan Okon...! I have read that as a child and still remember those novels... ;*
im from there thats not what it looks like at all. by there i mean tecumseh road runs through the middle of town. tecumseh had a brother who was a seer not a sister. his brother lost an eye falling on an arrow
Well, your ability to be polite is, indeed, quite limited. You'd have no problem with this issue, if you just stated the truth instead of trying to inflate the truth. You're not so much angry at me, as you are at yourself for being so naive as to think that there's be one on here who would pick-up on your attempt to stretch the truth. Next time, start with the truth, and you won't have to deal with people's comments. Bottom line--you got caught in a lie and you're taking it out on me.
@bobbitoth a lie i dont think so my family and i just discussed it last sunday i just get upset when people tell me that im wrong when they dont know me., anyways yes im a descendant of him and yes he did have children its just not widely known and im only being as polite as you telling me to get my facts straight
@bobbitoth okay, first of all, i know this comment is like a year old. second, i have been doing my research and my great great great great great grandfathers sister is rumored to be the mother of tecumseh. sorry for the discrepancy. and third,i was not lying, i was not angry with you.
Find your words hard to believe, since no one knows what Tecumseh looked like. There are no pictures of him! And, from my own research, he had no children.
Then, you are not a descendant of Tecumseh . . . if that is a fact . . . you are related to his mother. A descendant means that you are a child, grandchild, great grandchild, etc.
And, since you are claiming to look like an artists "rendition" of Tecumseh, you cannot claim to look like him, since, as I said in my previous email, no one knows exactly what he looked like.
So, get your facts straight, and quit claiming that you are something you are not!
Yes, not very accurate movie eh Mr Snorreke. At least the general meaning is conveyed, but a quality movie is yet to be made about Tecumseh.
Tecumseh and my ancestral non-related leader, Pushmataha were bitter enemies. In Jan. 2006 I went to Washington DC to honor Pushmataha at his grave site ... I saw panther in the sky (a comet) while I visited the old leaders grave. I thought that was an interesting coincidence.
I am so sad that no one who worked on this movie didn't take care about authentic moments in the movie. First, dialogues are not in the manner of Natives of XVIII and XIXth century, second they should have seen Black robe and mohawk/algonquin/cree dialogues. Shawnee looks like Apaches from New Mexico, even no one took care about scalplocks which were carried during the war among Natives of East Woodlands. Story is real but anyone who knows a bit about Shawnees of this time can see imperfections.
The movie is not good. It does'nt put in relief the issues, it's sentimental hollywoodian in the bad sense of the term. It's not history. It was a condeferation of Indians who were in war. The before is not presented. The political issues of the conflict between UK and US.The picture lacks money. Poor figuration. It's just a drama searching to convey a human figure to Indians as if americans thought always they have not. A pity. Racism in film. Indians appear americanized heroes in a B film.
lionelagarde 1 week ago
Watched this in History but missed 2nd half. YouTube shall save us all.
LegoMarioRPG 3 weeks ago
Thumbs up if you're looking at this to study
computergames5 4 weeks ago
oh -si-yo ,i gotta find these!. sure not what i learned n oklahoma history class, grandmother taught me a lot. love to watch entire movie!
harleygypsy2003 1 month ago
What else was in "The Native American" series?
Attila709 1 month ago
I LOVE NATIVE AMERICANS!!!!
Laraina808 2 months ago
the birthing part reminds me of alex haley's roots; they both gave birth standing up and hold on to a wooden pole. Native and African women are strong as hell
adfvssl011 2 months ago
Thanks for uploading! I've uploaded 'Bury my heart at Wounded Knee, Big Bear and some Native American documentaries. See my list of 'uploads'.
arafel1964 4 months ago
TECUMSEH!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU!!! I have sense I was 10..... weather I am white Idc as long as I know you are amazing!
RESPECT ALL PEOPLE BUT GROVEL TO NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BurtonPoe 4 months ago
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As an African woman, I can TOTALLY empathize with first nation people. 100,000 of my tribesmen were brutally assassinated by the barbaric colonizers and my grand-father was one of those killed. They poured napalm on my village and I am eagerly waiting for white supremacy to collapse
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Indigenous people have the key to the a sustainable world, the white man's way is killing us all culturally, economically and especially ecologically
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goyavesETmangues 5 months ago
@goyavesETmangues dont blame all white people. i empathise with you and all other people who were harmed by the white man. and i am white myself but i am also related to tecumseh. i believe everyone has the right to freedom. but dont blame a single race for something that happened long ago. living in america is an example of how everyone can get along if they can respect and tolerate each other. it wasnt right, slavery, racism, driving out indians. if i had lived then i wouldve tried to stop it.
radiantnakashima 2 months ago
@radiantnakashima If you wanted to stop slavery, driving out of indians, etc etc.. then you would of had to attack tribes such as the cherokee which had been doing this to other south eastern tribes for hundreds of years. These cherokee even try to do this today against all non federal native people. The northern indians have been enslaving southern indians .. stealing land.. and murdering southern tribes for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Monasukapanough 1 month ago
@radiantnakashima The federal cherokee was actually pretty much the largest slave owners in american history. They even recently broke the treaty of 1866 and kicked all their slave descendants out in the cold. Youtube search "cherokee freedman" and learn the truth.
Monasukapanough 1 month ago
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“But one of the most persistent traits of the Western white man has always been his fanatical and almost instinctive assumption that his systems and ideas about the world are the most desirable, n further, that people who do not aspire to them, or at least think them admirable, are savages or enemies.The idea that Western thought might be exotic if viewed from another landscape never presents itself to most Westerners”
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Amiri Baraka (formerly known as LeRoi Jones) in his book Blues People
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goyavesETmangues 5 months ago
@goyavesETmangues Yeah Whites fucked up the New Zealanders, Native Americans, Hawaiians, South Americans (Genocide of the Tribes), and many millions of Africans. But don't forget dat Europeans have killed and enslaved each other the most. So It's not like all whites have saw eye to eye and conspired against other races together. Hell many whites couldn't even stand each other.It's also a true that many Natives joined white armies and fought against their own kind just like Africans.
Spawn86327 5 months ago 2
@Spawn86327
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My comments were about WHITE SUPREMACY which is an ideology and hence was adopted by the Africans or Indians who willfully joined European armies. But let's be clear here, the overwhelming majority of them were forced to do so
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Also whiteness is a social construct. The other Europeans who were victims of it were mostly Jews and gypsies, that doesn't make it any less disgusting, obscene, and vile !! And it has gotten WORSE, destroying indigenous people and the planet!
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goyavesETmangues 5 months ago
@Spawn86327 The native people who sided with the whites to attack other native people did so because those tribes had stolen their land before the whites got here and those tribes had been kidnaping us to sell us into slavery or just to kill us. so when the whites got here we sided with them to seek justice against the tribes that had stolen our lands such as the Cherokee who falsly claim our land as theirs and falsly claim our heritage as theirs.
Monasukapanough 1 month ago
Is Lorne Cardinal related to Tantoo Cardinal?
PetraKenobi 5 months ago
Tantoo Cardinal is such an amazing woman!
zainadlr 7 months ago
well i live i ohio and everyone in my town knows about him hell did everyone fall asleep in history class idk seems to me everyone is spitten off facts that they seem to pull out of thin air lol come to chillicothe ohio we have a whole outdoor drama on him in his life or just watch the movie both r about the same
idk201101 8 months ago
Lol that looks like the little boy who played in smoke signals as Adam beachs character when he was younger.
Danceme0utside 11 months ago
I have shared this with my 5000 Friends that they make all listen and awaken. Thank You <3
TheOresome1 1 year ago
I have never heard of this movie. It's good I like it. Thanks Sheathen14!
Cleatusbodean 1 year ago
In the Polish novel the white man adopted into this tribe who was a friend of Tecumseh and his people, was actually a Polish man named Ryszard (Richard) Koss, as I remember well... :-) He was always a friend of Indian people and he was respected among them and treated as one of them. He lived like them and ate what they did. He was a warrior like them and he never betrayed them. :-) I am Polish and proud to be. :-)
aishakafeel 1 year ago
I would like to, once in my life at least, meet a real Indian and be able to tell him face to face, how much it hurts me what the white men did to his nation in the past...! To me, everyone is equal regardless of their ethnic origin, race or religion. As I get to know about any injustice done to anyone, group or individual, I feel as if I could live it by myself - I feel compassion and strong solidarity with the suffering ones. I have a strong sense of justice, thanks God, so I respect Indians..
aishakafeel 1 year ago 23
@aishakafeel I'm not full blooded but my mother is Cherokee but shes not a member of the tribe and what i know her reaction would be is she would tell you thanks then be thinking what a dumbass you are.
TheUnknownMax 9 months ago
@aishakafeel Native Americans were not/are not some magical hippie people. They were/are and will be exactly the same as any other homosapien, the history of violence and brutality is mirrored in human actions in all corners of the world.
Bodhranbeat 8 months ago
@aishakafeel If you feel so strongly, perhaps you should use politically correct terms.
GatesOfHell4 6 months ago
@GatesOfHell4 If by "politically correct" you mean not using the term "Indian," have you ever actually asked an American Indian? I am a smidgen Cherokee, but my girlfriend is an enrolled member of a tribe here in Washington and calls herself both "Indian" and "Native American." Furthermore, many First People use the shorthand "NDN" to describe themselves. So before everyone gets their panties in a wad and offended for everyone else... ask the people who are allegedly offended first... OK?
srp58704 2 months ago
@aishakafeel I kinda find this ironic.
JackoBopo 3 months ago
@aishakafeel Well the ative people was fighting and pushing each other off lands with each other since the start of tribes in america. We was not peace loving hippies by any means. Like even the Cherokee was actually from canada.. they pushed southward and pushed and killed many of the Native people off their lands. The Siouans was even pushed into virginia by groups like the cherokee. The creeks was pushed south by the cherokee also.
Monasukapanough 1 month ago
@Monasukapanough ative = native... left off the n.
One of the biggest issues we face today is groups like the Federal cherokee which attacks eastern native descendants to this day and calls them fake indians simply because we signed our lands away to england, since our treaties was with england we are not able to get federal recognigtion. To this day not one tribe in virginia is federally recognized.
Monasukapanough 1 month ago
and it was the white man's greedy nature that has exterminated the Indians Yahi... In the 20th century however, Indians were viewed as I myself do - as a virgin culture, untouched by civilisation, they were often associated with innocence, independence and certain mystery. Children's most popular play was to play Indians. Tones of novels and books were written about Indians of America. It was the century of change in our perception of indigenous people...
aishakafeel 1 year ago
Tecumseh! It means: Jumping Leopard... It was the name of Indian who fought in the war between Canada and Union in Canadian army as general because Canada protected his tribe, according to the famous 'Indian trilogy' of a Polish novelist Longin Jan Okon...! I have read that as a child and still remember those novels... ;*
aishakafeel 1 year ago
I am so excited I love this movie! Thanks for posting!
Ohsonatural2010 1 year ago
Man i have been looking for this movie for YEARS! thanks for uploading this movie was great. It was a TNT original if im correct!!!
brodyboynumber9 1 year ago
im from there thats not what it looks like at all. by there i mean tecumseh road runs through the middle of town. tecumseh had a brother who was a seer not a sister. his brother lost an eye falling on an arrow
stonedimaculate1983 1 year ago
@stonedimaculate1983 find any arrowheads?
smellanalan 1 year ago
@stonedimaculate1983 well the little "boy" said u cannot beat tecumseh. Pay attention
smellanalan 1 year ago
im from there thats not what it looks like at all. by there i mean tecumseh road runs through the middle of town.
stonedimaculate1983 1 year ago
im from there thats not what it looks like at all.
stonedimaculate1983 1 year ago
Again a movie where the people don't speak in their native tongue, but English instead. Damn those producers/writers.
jackdemos 1 year ago
@jackdemos well can you speak shawnee or anything, wouldnt understand it at all
smellanalan 1 year ago
@smellanalan True, but they could've used subs. Gr. Jack
jackdemos 1 year ago
Tecumseh is hot
butkicker75 1 year ago
hey is that vatos locos forever ???
deadnative3000 1 year ago 2
@deadnative3000 Yup, that's Cruzito! (aka Jesse Borrego)
Sheathen14 1 year ago 2
@deadnative3000 por vida homes
smellanalan 1 year ago
@deadnative3000 la onda para siempre!
51m0n77 7 months ago
You're welcome--Thanks for watching!
Sheathen14 1 year ago
@Sheathen14 thanks for posting! Ive looked everywhere for this torrent and couldn't find it!!! So thanks again
51m0n77 7 months ago
Thank you for posting this movie! It is a shame it isn't available on DVD.
zohoe 1 year ago
i was exaggerating when i said i look like him though its a joke my friends say to me when they see a pic of him
radiantnakashima 1 year ago
@BlakeLBoggs no im just stating the facts
radiantnakashima 1 year ago
Well, your ability to be polite is, indeed, quite limited. You'd have no problem with this issue, if you just stated the truth instead of trying to inflate the truth. You're not so much angry at me, as you are at yourself for being so naive as to think that there's be one on here who would pick-up on your attempt to stretch the truth. Next time, start with the truth, and you won't have to deal with people's comments. Bottom line--you got caught in a lie and you're taking it out on me.
bobbitoth 1 year ago
@bobbitoth a lie i dont think so my family and i just discussed it last sunday i just get upset when people tell me that im wrong when they dont know me., anyways yes im a descendant of him and yes he did have children its just not widely known and im only being as polite as you telling me to get my facts straight
radiantnakashima 1 year ago
@bobbitoth okay, first of all, i know this comment is like a year old. second, i have been doing my research and my great great great great great grandfathers sister is rumored to be the mother of tecumseh. sorry for the discrepancy. and third,i was not lying, i was not angry with you.
radiantnakashima 2 months ago
thank you for this vid i am a direct decendant of tecumseh i even kinda look like him
radiantnakashima 1 year ago
@radiantnakashima
Find your words hard to believe, since no one knows what Tecumseh looked like. There are no pictures of him! And, from my own research, he had no children.
bobbitoth 1 year ago
@bobbitoth im descended from his mother and i look like what an artists depiction of him is
radiantnakashima 1 year ago
@radiantnakashima
Then, you are not a descendant of Tecumseh . . . if that is a fact . . . you are related to his mother. A descendant means that you are a child, grandchild, great grandchild, etc.
And, since you are claiming to look like an artists "rendition" of Tecumseh, you cannot claim to look like him, since, as I said in my previous email, no one knows exactly what he looked like.
So, get your facts straight, and quit claiming that you are something you are not!
bobbitoth 1 year ago
wow, this used to be my movie!!!! I can't believe someone finally uploaded it. thanks!
distortdpsyche 1 year ago
Yes, not very accurate movie eh Mr Snorreke. At least the general meaning is conveyed, but a quality movie is yet to be made about Tecumseh.
Tecumseh and my ancestral non-related leader, Pushmataha were bitter enemies. In Jan. 2006 I went to Washington DC to honor Pushmataha at his grave site ... I saw panther in the sky (a comet) while I visited the old leaders grave. I thought that was an interesting coincidence.
robfergusonjr 1 year ago
@robfergusonjr
That and at the end it shows his mother aiding in burial rituals, she was in I believe "Alabama" at the time his death.
BlakeLBoggs 1 year ago
Tecumseh was a great leader i wish i was his warrior and i wish i was by his side
TheShadowwolf666 1 year ago 2
me too!
youmustask 1 year ago
me too!
youmustask 1 year ago
i am watchin it too ;P
Cball06 1 year ago
I am so sad that no one who worked on this movie didn't take care about authentic moments in the movie. First, dialogues are not in the manner of Natives of XVIII and XIXth century, second they should have seen Black robe and mohawk/algonquin/cree dialogues. Shawnee looks like Apaches from New Mexico, even no one took care about scalplocks which were carried during the war among Natives of East Woodlands. Story is real but anyone who knows a bit about Shawnees of this time can see imperfections.
MrSnorreke 2 years ago
2- I'll make sure Lots see this!
acerb45666555 2 years ago
what?? im the only one watchin this? Tecumseh is one of the greatest leaders who ever lived!!
acerb45666555 2 years ago