The main problem with christian is FEAR. They fear death , they fear HELL, that's why they won't accept anything that is wrong in the bible and will try to justify it. They mentally suppress their intellect ! Also 99 % of them know NOTHING about ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS and their teachings , that were there WAY BEFORE MOSES (for examples : Sumerian, mesopotamia) ... I think there must be a god or a intelligent being, you can't be here by "accident" , but i'm seeking, and not a brainswash sheep!
You presume to judge God? You're not greater than God. He's OUR judge. We're not His. He is above us and knows all. All He has done and all He will do, is good and right. Whether we, of such feeble minds, can understand Him or His ways, He is our God and we have no right to judge Him. We are to trust Him as our Father, our King and our righteous Judge and we must remain loyal to Him who is our hope of salvation. It was Him who sent His Word to become flesh to take away the sins of the world.
@4GodSoLoves you are such a SLAVE ! that's your problem !!! Because a book says you to do it you accept it and hold it as the truth ! you are sick, read Deuteronomy 22: 28-29 and realize that it doesn't make any SENSE !
@LeRationnel27 You say it makes no sense; so therefore you it is wrong. Your ignorance does not translate as Gods error. It says that if a man does such a thing, he will be made responsible for her for the rest of her life. Your hatred of God belies your atheism. It's far too emotional. You presume to judge God, but when it actually comes down to it - it is He who will judge you. You know this is true, and it makes you angry - hence all the emotion.
@4GodSoLoves have you stone your children for being disobedient lately ? Lol about your "God" , what a bunch of arrogance and ignorance on your part. Your God have the same characteristic as many Pagan gods ! Gotta love the spanish inquisition murdering everybody. I am not an atheist, i'm an agnostic. You know you fear death and hell and without a crutch (God) you would live a depressing life ... God is good for old people, they feel more secure when facing death, that's all.
@4GodSoLoves Have you research about the sumerian and the Epic of Gilgamesh ... they lived 3500 B.c and Moses was there between 1600 B.C , and the striking similarity with their teachings and the bible ? Guess not, well I am not suprised, most christians are close minded and rarely reads their bible ! I'm an ex-christian so I know what I am talking about .... 20 000 different denomination, you guys can't even have unity amongst your flock.lol
@4GodSoLoves" You say it makes no sense; so therefore to you it is wrong." WELL of COURSE, raping a woman and marrying her afterward makes no sense. I will rape your child, go to your husband, give some money and ask her for marriage. Where can I find her for a good old raping ?
@LeRationnel27 It is the idea that the man will have to take care of her for the rest of her life. He will never be able to marry because he is already married and the woman will most likely live with her father, hence the large payment made to him. This, by the way, probably seldom happened because the punishment was severe. You can't look at this in comparison to modern times. In these ancient days marriages were often arranged at very early ages.
@4GodSoLoves furthermore you need to research about the sumerian and the Epic of Gilgamesh ... they lived 3500 B.c and Moses was there between 1600 B.C , you'll see some striking similarity with their teachings and the bible :)
The biggesat problem of the video would be ther failed version you chose to read from lol. try a real bible The King James. There was no rape in that verse
@SageTheAtheist First off I'm a man, but if you were to do that to a close female relative in the year 2011, I'd have you arrested. As far as back in biblical times, I'd be very upset with you and would fully expect you to meet your obligation. Remember the Bible says revenge is the Lord's. As far as her being continuously raped after marriage, the same thing could happen to a woman who was a virgin when she married her husband. The regular laws that were in place should apply.
@SageTheAtheist How on earth was I defending a rapist when I referred to his act as criminal? In case you weren't aware, the entire Old Testament took place prior to the rise of the modern welfare state, so the only person available to support this poor woman was the perpetrator. He committed the heinous act and therefore was required to pay a lifetime of restitution to the women for destroying any hope of marrying another man.
"If you call that interpreting scripture, then maybe you shouldn't be reading it without proper supervision." LOL interpreting??? He is critquing EXACTLY what the passage says... you have some nerve to say he is doing anything incorrectly while you are on here trying to defendthe idea of a rape victim being forced to marry the person she would consider to be the most frightening and disgusting man on earth! Now he can go ahead and rape her EVERY NIGHT and you are defending this? You atre sick!
@BlackAtheist1 If you call that interpreting scripture, then maybe you shouldn't be reading it without proper supervision. The woman from your hometown was correct, once a man raped a virgin, he became legally obligated to marry and financially support that woman for the rest of her life, because his criminal actions virtually ruined any chances she had of ever marrying someone else. He wasn't put to death because he was needed to fulfill his responsibility.
@theabiotictheory "He wasn't put to death because he was needed to fulfill his responsibility." So, again, we have a Christian defending rapists. That is disgusting. You should be ashamed, but of course, you aren't.
@theabiotictheory Let me ask you... if I violently anally raped you, how would you feel about marrying me and being forced to spend the rest of your life with me, where I could rape you as many times as i wanted every single day? If you are a man, and defending rape laws, I can only imagine that you are the type of man that would be likely to rape a woman yourself.... you might as well be defending child pornography, torture, and punching pregnant women in the stomach. People like you scare me.
but i got to say the price of getting caught........ the price of rape according to the bible its $13 shekels were replaces by the Israel New Shekels 1 ILS = 0.261750 USD 50 ILS = 13.0875 USD
That's the purpose of that psychotic verse, for those who can afford 50 shekels of silver, it means more forced marriages. Sad isn't it? And to think that most of the world think that this is a good moral guideline for the world. Then they wonder why we're atheists?
I liked it.. and Im not atheist or thiest or any of those labels (definitions). I can appreciate u speaking out against such questionable matters and not just taking it on "blind" faith without being logical about it.
I think the main thing is so girls realize in whatever circumstance if they have sex (or guys have sex) they are making a bond.. & if I had to marry every girl I had sex with that would prevent me from having sex and I'd probably die a virgin.. although I hardly get laid now WTF!
@JeansTake or here's the answer logic will tell us that there is infinity in all directions.... it couldn't be any other way (even though yes it is a totally illogical concept)... also there was always space and so there couldn't have been a "beginning" or "ending" to it.. "life" or existence had no "beginning" it always was (illogical non-linear concept yet can't be any other way). and obviously there is not a total absence and nothingness/ void (so when bodies die there will be concsciousness)
@JeansTake otherwise there would just be lifeless void and absence for eternity (like how atheists assert follows life erroneously)... obviously that's not the case... so consciousness precedes (pre seeds) and follows bodies/ materiality. formless consciousness has awareness.. and god is just another word for "good" or positivity and evil/ sin (making an error) is just a word for negativity.. like pain vs. pleasure. this is me using logic to answer the illogical mystery
@JNdigital - I definitely didn't ask you a question, so I'm not quite sure why you're addressing me?...Please don't come to a comment I wrote 2 months ago on this man's video & attempt to engage me in a random subject. A message would be sufficient. & Please let me know what question you asked yourself before answering... Thanks in advance.
@JeansTake I continued a point I was making to LogicalSanity (youtube user on this video) toward you.. I decided to address it to you since we (you and I) engaged in a brief discussion on your page. the question I asked myself was the unanswerable mystery of how/ why life began.. only there was no real beginning or ending.. logic takes someone back to an infinite regression of cause and effect that doesn't make sense to the mind; so I used logic to show that illogical concepts are a real reality
I honestly don't want to see you in my comment box preachin random shit so if you & her are having a discussion, then go for it lol.. don't throw me in there though.
@LogicalSanity logic won't answer the unanswerable mysteries of life (no beginning or ending/ there was always space)... trying to figure them out will mind fuk u!!!!!! I guess the real logical thing to say equals "I don't know" and can't know till we evolve or some shit =) hehe sheshe haha blahblah
or how there's infinity in all directions can't ever be a finite linear end or beginning... it's a mind fuk that can't be answered with the mind basically or it will leave one INSANE logicalsanity can't answer it : )
Good video and good points. I wish more people would watch this. I like your point about there is a reason we don't allow this kind of behavior in our society today. An you're right it was not ok back then any more then it would be today. It was bible verses like this and many, many, many, others that changed my mind about God and christianity. One day I came to the realization that the only reason I was even trying to believe was for the fear of Hell and that alone. Good Video.
"Did montey python write this book or what?" Love it! Great vid
CSTheApostate 1 month ago
Well played!
KyleSkullz 1 month ago
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LeRationnel27 1 month ago
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LeRationnel27 1 month ago
The main problem with christian is FEAR. They fear death , they fear HELL, that's why they won't accept anything that is wrong in the bible and will try to justify it. They mentally suppress their intellect ! Also 99 % of them know NOTHING about ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS and their teachings , that were there WAY BEFORE MOSES (for examples : Sumerian, mesopotamia) ... I think there must be a god or a intelligent being, you can't be here by "accident" , but i'm seeking, and not a brainswash sheep!
LeRationnel27 1 month ago
You presume to judge God? You're not greater than God. He's OUR judge. We're not His. He is above us and knows all. All He has done and all He will do, is good and right. Whether we, of such feeble minds, can understand Him or His ways, He is our God and we have no right to judge Him. We are to trust Him as our Father, our King and our righteous Judge and we must remain loyal to Him who is our hope of salvation. It was Him who sent His Word to become flesh to take away the sins of the world.
4GodSoLoves 2 months ago
@4GodSoLoves you are such a SLAVE ! that's your problem !!! Because a book says you to do it you accept it and hold it as the truth ! you are sick, read Deuteronomy 22: 28-29 and realize that it doesn't make any SENSE !
LeRationnel27 1 month ago
@LeRationnel27 You say it makes no sense; so therefore you it is wrong. Your ignorance does not translate as Gods error. It says that if a man does such a thing, he will be made responsible for her for the rest of her life. Your hatred of God belies your atheism. It's far too emotional. You presume to judge God, but when it actually comes down to it - it is He who will judge you. You know this is true, and it makes you angry - hence all the emotion.
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@4GodSoLoves have you stone your children for being disobedient lately ? Lol about your "God" , what a bunch of arrogance and ignorance on your part. Your God have the same characteristic as many Pagan gods ! Gotta love the spanish inquisition murdering everybody. I am not an atheist, i'm an agnostic. You know you fear death and hell and without a crutch (God) you would live a depressing life ... God is good for old people, they feel more secure when facing death, that's all.
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@4GodSoLoves Have you research about the sumerian and the Epic of Gilgamesh ... they lived 3500 B.c and Moses was there between 1600 B.C , and the striking similarity with their teachings and the bible ? Guess not, well I am not suprised, most christians are close minded and rarely reads their bible ! I'm an ex-christian so I know what I am talking about .... 20 000 different denomination, you guys can't even have unity amongst your flock.lol
LeRationnel27 1 month ago
@4GodSoLoves" You say it makes no sense; so therefore to you it is wrong." WELL of COURSE, raping a woman and marrying her afterward makes no sense. I will rape your child, go to your husband, give some money and ask her for marriage. Where can I find her for a good old raping ?
LeRationnel27 1 month ago
@LeRationnel27 It is the idea that the man will have to take care of her for the rest of her life. He will never be able to marry because he is already married and the woman will most likely live with her father, hence the large payment made to him. This, by the way, probably seldom happened because the punishment was severe. You can't look at this in comparison to modern times. In these ancient days marriages were often arranged at very early ages.
4GodSoLoves 1 month ago
@4GodSoLoves furthermore you need to research about the sumerian and the Epic of Gilgamesh ... they lived 3500 B.c and Moses was there between 1600 B.C , you'll see some striking similarity with their teachings and the bible :)
LeRationnel27 1 month ago
Right on brother!
SpoonyG925 5 months ago
3:37!!!
ricardofuego 5 months ago
"Did monty python write this book?"
LMAO
OGhead 6 months ago 4
The biggesat problem of the video would be ther failed version you chose to read from lol. try a real bible The King James. There was no rape in that verse
Krazie316 8 months ago
@SageTheAtheist First off I'm a man, but if you were to do that to a close female relative in the year 2011, I'd have you arrested. As far as back in biblical times, I'd be very upset with you and would fully expect you to meet your obligation. Remember the Bible says revenge is the Lord's. As far as her being continuously raped after marriage, the same thing could happen to a woman who was a virgin when she married her husband. The regular laws that were in place should apply.
theabiotictheory 1 year ago
@SageTheAtheist How on earth was I defending a rapist when I referred to his act as criminal? In case you weren't aware, the entire Old Testament took place prior to the rise of the modern welfare state, so the only person available to support this poor woman was the perpetrator. He committed the heinous act and therefore was required to pay a lifetime of restitution to the women for destroying any hope of marrying another man.
theabiotictheory 1 year ago
"If you call that interpreting scripture, then maybe you shouldn't be reading it without proper supervision." LOL interpreting??? He is critquing EXACTLY what the passage says... you have some nerve to say he is doing anything incorrectly while you are on here trying to defendthe idea of a rape victim being forced to marry the person she would consider to be the most frightening and disgusting man on earth! Now he can go ahead and rape her EVERY NIGHT and you are defending this? You atre sick!
SageTheAtheist 1 year ago
I didn't even have to get through this entire video before I zipped over to your channel and subbed. Mad respect for black Atheists dude.
SageTheAtheist 1 year ago
@BlackAtheist1 If you call that interpreting scripture, then maybe you shouldn't be reading it without proper supervision. The woman from your hometown was correct, once a man raped a virgin, he became legally obligated to marry and financially support that woman for the rest of her life, because his criminal actions virtually ruined any chances she had of ever marrying someone else. He wasn't put to death because he was needed to fulfill his responsibility.
theabiotictheory 1 year ago
@theabiotictheory "He wasn't put to death because he was needed to fulfill his responsibility." So, again, we have a Christian defending rapists. That is disgusting. You should be ashamed, but of course, you aren't.
SageTheAtheist 1 year ago
@theabiotictheory Let me ask you... if I violently anally raped you, how would you feel about marrying me and being forced to spend the rest of your life with me, where I could rape you as many times as i wanted every single day? If you are a man, and defending rape laws, I can only imagine that you are the type of man that would be likely to rape a woman yourself.... you might as well be defending child pornography, torture, and punching pregnant women in the stomach. People like you scare me.
SageTheAtheist 1 year ago
Black Athiests Stand Up!
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ebejale 1 year ago
Great points
curt121281 1 year ago
OMG...there is something about the guy that reminds of Jamie Foxx at the beginning. "Yes I did come from a christian home"...that is Jamies voice.
kmcl11 1 year ago
I feel you brother that is some crazy SHIT!!
mariettaga 1 year ago
good video man i like your interpretation
but i got to say the price of getting caught........ the price of rape according to the bible its $13 shekels were replaces by the Israel New Shekels 1 ILS = 0.261750 USD 50 ILS = 13.0875 USD
nottsdave 1 year ago
SSHHH!, Your black! Do you really want to give crazy white religious zealots more of a reason to burn you?
reddogloc 1 year ago
That's the purpose of that psychotic verse, for those who can afford 50 shekels of silver, it means more forced marriages. Sad isn't it? And to think that most of the world think that this is a good moral guideline for the world. Then they wonder why we're atheists?
spartacandream 1 year ago
Fake. obviously a monkey in a man suit!
GODMANGUY6969 1 year ago
@GODMANGUY6969 Yeah i know...how dare this guy not belive the bullshit bible is real...lol
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"how dare this guy not belive the bullshit bible is real"
Indeed, he should just buy the bull, the buybull!
mindwis3 1 year ago
this video is probably getting some girls wet in their pussy man.. include your # and they'll likely call for a fuck X )
JNdigital 2 years ago
I liked it.. and Im not atheist or thiest or any of those labels (definitions). I can appreciate u speaking out against such questionable matters and not just taking it on "blind" faith without being logical about it.
I think the main thing is so girls realize in whatever circumstance if they have sex (or guys have sex) they are making a bond.. & if I had to marry every girl I had sex with that would prevent me from having sex and I'd probably die a virgin.. although I hardly get laid now WTF!
JNdigital 2 years ago
"Did Monty Python write this book?!" Hahaha!
rhalas 2 years ago
Great video man. I Sub'd.
RationalPeace 2 years ago 5
I totally agree with all of your statements and rape is never ok! That is just horrible the verse Deuteronomy 22: 28-29
TheBeautyofIslam1HA 2 years ago 3
Good man. I like it.
FANGKENSTEIN 2 years ago 3
I like it!!!
JeansTake 2 years ago 2
@JeansTake or here's the answer logic will tell us that there is infinity in all directions.... it couldn't be any other way (even though yes it is a totally illogical concept)... also there was always space and so there couldn't have been a "beginning" or "ending" to it.. "life" or existence had no "beginning" it always was (illogical non-linear concept yet can't be any other way). and obviously there is not a total absence and nothingness/ void (so when bodies die there will be concsciousness)
JNdigital 2 years ago
@JeansTake otherwise there would just be lifeless void and absence for eternity (like how atheists assert follows life erroneously)... obviously that's not the case... so consciousness precedes (pre seeds) and follows bodies/ materiality. formless consciousness has awareness.. and god is just another word for "good" or positivity and evil/ sin (making an error) is just a word for negativity.. like pain vs. pleasure. this is me using logic to answer the illogical mystery
Universal Reconciliation
JNdigital 2 years ago
@JNdigital - I definitely didn't ask you a question, so I'm not quite sure why you're addressing me?...Please don't come to a comment I wrote 2 months ago on this man's video & attempt to engage me in a random subject. A message would be sufficient. & Please let me know what question you asked yourself before answering... Thanks in advance.
JeansTake 2 years ago
@JeansTake I continued a point I was making to LogicalSanity (youtube user on this video) toward you.. I decided to address it to you since we (you and I) engaged in a brief discussion on your page. the question I asked myself was the unanswerable mystery of how/ why life began.. only there was no real beginning or ending.. logic takes someone back to an infinite regression of cause and effect that doesn't make sense to the mind; so I used logic to show that illogical concepts are a real reality
JNdigital 2 years ago
I honestly don't want to see you in my comment box preachin random shit so if you & her are having a discussion, then go for it lol.. don't throw me in there though.
JeansTake 2 years ago
@JeansTake I'll do whatever the fuck I want.. btw u can't just take sometimes have to give
JNdigital 2 years ago
@JeansTake I wasn't "preaching" girlfriend... nonetheless no problem.. I can respect ur wishes and I'll exclude in such matters henceforth. Peace
JNdigital 2 years ago
@JeansTake f u for calling it "random shit" btw, so what are your videos then fucking pristine science gospel? lol
JNdigital 2 years ago
that is wassup...A black man standing up for women rights. nice video, keep making them.
allTRIPLE1 2 years ago 2
That was a laughable reply from your buddy, "But it says over here to kill the mo-fo for raping a wife!"
This makes the book less barbaric, how? It still leaves virgins out to dry on top of killing people. What a wonderful book the Buy-Bull is.
TheWindClaw 2 years ago 2
Great passage to talk about. WE need more of you! Delusional people don't realize how delusional they are, unfortunately :(.
LogicalSanity 2 years ago 7
@LogicalSanity logic won't answer the unanswerable mysteries of life (no beginning or ending/ there was always space)... trying to figure them out will mind fuk u!!!!!! I guess the real logical thing to say equals "I don't know" and can't know till we evolve or some shit =) hehe sheshe haha blahblah
JNdigital 2 years ago
or how there's infinity in all directions can't ever be a finite linear end or beginning... it's a mind fuk that can't be answered with the mind basically or it will leave one INSANE logicalsanity can't answer it : )
JNdigital 2 years ago
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DEMONEATER3000 1 year ago
This is why i always keep 100 shackles in my pocket HA. Good vid tho
LBTennis 2 years ago 2
Good video and good points. I wish more people would watch this. I like your point about there is a reason we don't allow this kind of behavior in our society today. An you're right it was not ok back then any more then it would be today. It was bible verses like this and many, many, many, others that changed my mind about God and christianity. One day I came to the realization that the only reason I was even trying to believe was for the fear of Hell and that alone. Good Video.
ILoveMyDogTravis 2 years ago 2