Net Neutrality Vote This Thursday 10/22 - Call, write, fax, email your Rep.

[historyman8]

boycot all main media

[xavierleplae]

I love you GB. You actually seem to believe what you're saying. You old born again drunk!

Advocates for net neutrality want to keep the internet free like it is, the same.

You are attempting to confuse us into giving up OUR rights as citizen users so special interests can have more more more! Hee hee! How is that to my benefit? I don't know. I forgot. I'm drunk on Fox quackery.

[LibertyAmerica]

How many of you Beck-Heads have even heard of Net Neutrality before this week?

I bet most of you know absolutely nothing about the issue, and are basing your entire opinion on what Glenn Beck tells you.

And that's just stupid.

Net Neutrality *protects" free speech on the internet. It doesn't squash it.

Educate yourselves.

[PushBackNow]

I am educated and an ISP, (DSL/ Hosting) the two biggest supporters are MS and Google.

You are the one who needs be educated. This is WRONG for freedom of speech, and the small business person.  You are the uneducated one here. We have been pushing back acainst this since the '90s

[ThunderAppeal]

You didnt answer his question.

Did you actually even hear about the Net Neutrality issue before beck brought it up and started to demonize it?

You say that MS and Google are the biggest supporters, which is actually not true and doesnt make it true just because beck told you.

The biggest opposers are the phone companies. And I dont believe a single word you say. Youre a fraud at best. If anything you think you stand to profit from this.

[PushBackNow]

Why do you try reading? I clearly said that we've been pushing back against this since the 90s.

MS and Google are huge supporters. We're done talking to you is less enlightening than talking to a parrot.

You're not welcome on my post anymore.

You're the fraud,. Go Away!!

[ThunderAppeal]

Its more than a little ironic that you support verizon and att both companies that are festering union shops. Both of which are strong backers of regulating the internet.. While at the same time you call yourself a conservative. MS and Google are 'huge supporters? Really? So what? I just gave the names of companies who support regulating the internet you dimbulb. Youre a lying scumbag fraud.

[PushBackNow]

I've been hosting for over ten ears, you are sounding like an idiot, and why would I even give. Have I heard of Net Neutrality? IS that even a question moron? Yes of course. Goo Lord.

Go away.

[BalmungSama0]

Your argument is nothing but repeating the word "kool-aid", spouting "government is out to get you", and assuming corporations are always on the sides of the little guy, and people don't need the government to defend their rights. You're even less credible than Glenn Beck; at least he's original in his insanity.

[PushBackNow]

You're entitled to your opinion.

[Dysnomia303]

Talk about the blind leading the blind. Good god...

[BalmungSama0]

Ummm... Net Neutrality isn't about the Government gaining control over content, but removing control from corporations, who can manipulate content to serve themselves better. That's perfectly reasonable. If corporations infringe on right of free speech and information, then the government; the law of the land, should be involved.

Glenn Beck; just because the government is involved in some remote way doesn't make it evil.

This is why it's bad to sniff glue as a child.

[PushBackNow]

Net neutrality is the fairness doctrine for the internet. Keep guzzling the kool aid.

[BalmungSama0]

Adding "kool aid" to your sentences doesn't make you correct. This is preventing the corporations from censoring people and content providers. I was under the impression that part of the government's job, as the law makers and enforcers, was to defend the rights of its citizens. But it can't defend the citizens if the corporations are the ones censoring?Nothing against capitalism, but why is it that now more and more conservatives want corporations to be treated more like people than people are?

[PushBackNow]

You're argument is empty and pointless. Our government and it's purposes for control, are not for the peple. Anyone who has the power to grant you a privilege, has the power to remove that privilege. I will take my chances with the privates sector EVERY time. Corporations ARE people. government are concerned about "their job security" and they don't provide a product that THE PEOPLE don't pay for. I'm done with this ignorance, you can't see the truth of the problem with Net neutrality.

[BalmungSama0]

Wait.. so corporations are okay because they're managed by people? Who manages the government? Did we already start electing robot politicians? Humans are flawed. Both of these are flawed. but this doesn't give the goernment the power to dictate what goes on the internet. It takes that power away from corporations.

[BalmungSama0]

Your argument comes down to "they gave it to us, so they can take it away", which is bull once you realize that by that logic, you'd be better off if walmart gave you freedom of speech, instead of the government.

Still, I gotta love your perspective. Essentially, you veiw the government as a James Bond villian, and corporations as the British Secret Service.

Explain to me what evidence you have of any evil motives, and maybe then you''ll be worth a listen.

[PushBackNow]

Wrong again.

[BalmungSama0]

I love how saying "wrong" is your basic method.

[picklebarrels]

What exactly would they remove? Are you even aware that they already control the backbone and are monitoring traffic? That part is already done and overwith.

So, again, pertinent to what net neutrality actually does, what's the problem?

[PushBackNow]

The problem is CONTROL. Good God Man!

[picklebarrels]

They already have "CONTROL", hate to break it to you. They always have had "CONTROL". Yes, even before you started forwarding pictures of Bill Clinton with devil horns.

Are you sure you know exactly what net neutrality is, or are you just in the, "Well Glenn Beck said it was bad, so it must be bad!" bandwagon?

Do you realize this is a result of fighting between private corporations? You're not fighting the EVIL Democrats, you're fighting Google, Skype, and several other giant corporations.

[mustanglp50]

dude, no matter what your guna have giant corporations, some are good some are bad, but the problem is that the federal bank is not under the checks and ballances system, universal healthcare, the patriot act, the "civilian military" of obama, the amero etc, is an attempt for them to get control,

[picklebarrels]

So you have no idea what this issue is about, but you're against it? Gotcha.

[PushBackNow]

Wow, what in incoherent flaming simp you are pb.

[picklebarrels]

I love the way he has to preface everything about net neutrality with his usual hysterics because he doesn't even know what the hell it is or why he's against it.

Hey, Glenn, tell us why the giant corporations are so concerned about net neutrality "stifling innovation and investment" if they're, as they say, committed to not violating net neutrality on a large scale?

Could it be perhaps that they're talking out both sides of their mouth and they're full of shit?

[PushBackNow]

Keep talking but clean up the profanity or your 86d. Dig this now. When the Govt Controls, the Govt. Can remove. How's that kool-aid?

[ThunderAppeal]

Sorry but on this one I'm for net neutrality. Without net neautrality we will not be able to have the concept of 'unlimited internet access.' We will go back to the days when people paid for every minute.  This is our baby, not the communists dont let them have this one. Besides if anything the lack of net neutrality will empower google even more because google already owns bandwith in terms of pipeline and spectrum. They are laying their own ground work regardless of how this goes.

[PushBackNow]

I don't agree, anything that is taken out of the privates sector will have the ability to be taken from the people.

How that free cell and cable working for you. Look at what they want to do (and already did do) with the "Fairness Doctrine" You're wrong on this.

Bandwdith will continue to get cheaper, I'm a provider, I buy it buy the port, and it has decreased from hundred of dollars a month to a few dollars a month over the past decade.

[ThunderAppeal]

You buy bandwidth from the phone companies who own the switching stations. Those switching stations are what the phone companies want to charge the average user access to.

I dont have free cell and cable, I pay for my access, but at least right now internet is unlimited, I log on and surf all I want. Either way google is gearing up its own internet access service. Bandwidth will most certainly *not* continue to get cheaper, thats the same claim the phone companies made 10 years ago.

[ThunderAppeal]

This issue at hand is not bandwidth getting cheaper, every new innovation has to be paid for somehow. That cost always trickles down ultimately to the end user. The issue at hand is preventing phone companies from hijacking the internet from users willing to pay a set rate that doesnt require insane negotiations and contracts. Basically ease of use.

[ThunderAppeal]

The thing behind the 'fairness doctrine' is squelching opposing view to the current administration. Whereas the idea behind 'net neautrality' is to prevent favoritism between the owners of the switching stations so that all data is allowed equal access.

[PushBackNow]

THat is a totally fals assumption. Equality and freedom are not the same thing, if the eaualllity you are given is at the end of a stick. MS and Google have the most to gain in this. I want to see it defeated and an owner of an ISP (hosting and DSL)

[ThunderAppeal]

Youre an ignorant fraud.

I've already explained the whole issue behind the argument of who are the opposers of Net Neutrality and you only latch on to one line at the end of the whole thing 'equality and freedom are not the same thing.' Moron that you are fail to see that Net Neutrality enforces the 1st Amendment in the Constitution but not allowing private interests to hijack freedom of speech. You think that you will be able to pass along the cost the phone companies charge you.

[roxxxxifie]

You're an idiot. Anyone who is able to think for themselves is able to see that Net Neutrality isn't dangerous. Don't get me wrong. I used to watch Beck until this. I'm a conservative. But, making sure that large corporations can't push their corporate agendas (which IS dangerous since they can push viewpoints that fit their market share), is not a bad thing, nor is it taking over the internet. Net Neutrality just saids that an ISP cannot prioritize traffic just because the content provider pays

[PushBackNow]

Government should do two things, protect our shores and build our roads. The rest of it should be the private sector. The Great Kazoo Turbo Tax Timmy is a poster child for what I'm talking about the Federal profligates.

Sorry Thunder you are VERY wrong.

[ThunderAppeal]

In an ideal world perhaps.

I trust corporations as much as I trust the government, neither one of those groups are in my favor.

Private industry has to be regulated to a certain degree, to enforce some sort of safety standards at the very least.

Granted considering this administrations current track record I would also be high suspicious of any federal involvement in the private sector.

[BalmungSama0]

Glad to know you don't think the government should have any involvement in domestic laws and enforcement of human rights.

"Stop protecting neutrality of information on the internet and stop sending out police officers! Just stick with international wars, border patrol and building roads. We'll handle everything else, GOVERNMENT NAZIS!"

[ThunderAppeal]

Youre a canadian, you have no say in this matter.

Youre also a stupid fucking parrot.

Qwack 'human rights' qwack 'international wars' qwack.

Youre a fucking child and you were a fucking infant when America was attacked. Youre a little faggot living in the safety of Americas shadow.

[BalmungSama0]

Oh, so because I'm Canadian, I can't form an opinion on something? I'm glad you think international politics is useless and pointless.

how is 9/11 even relevant to this topic? You're caling me a parrot? Your default answers are "wrong", "kool-aid" and "9/11". Glenn Beck is a fucking idiot, but at least he has a better vocabulary.