Marciano had better chin, stamina and heart...it would depend if Tyson could take out Marciano before the late rounds which I can't see happening...if the fight drags on to late rounds Marciano bags the fight by knocking out Tyson. If Tyson can hurt Rocky early I can see Tyson winning by KO but its hard to see that against Marciano...I pick Marciano by 8-10th round KO.
hard to say on this tyson looked unbeatable but buster douglas exposed him and he was never the same. rocky didn't really get exposed but then he fought an aging cincinnati cobra. i think young mike wins only because of modern training, if you gave marciano the same advantages i think rocky edges him but loses to lennox lewis
Who did Tyson fight ? Boxing in the eighties was poor Mike was a great fighter in a bad era . But I have to agree Mike in my opinion could of been the greatest of all time but through his lack of decipline losing to fighters like Buster Doughlas going the distance with Bone crusher
I agree with all that you say in this video, and Tyson would probably have won.
Saying that, Tyson always seemed weary and often folded when he came up against fighters who didn't fear him, who weren't intimidated by him or let him get that psychological edge. Such as Holyfield or Douglas, and I find it hard to picture the Rock being afraid of Tyson.
@PREZ150 I disagree with that. Cus and Teddy Atlas had to shout at Mike in the amateurs because he would get frustrated with guys who wouldn't stay down. He tried to quit against a white kid from Scranton pa who wouldn't stay down and Teddy threatned to stop his boxing if he didn't stay in there. He would get frustrated sparing Joe Egan of the Irish boxing team for the same reason. Joe wouldn't go anywhere when he hit him. That is a PRIME TYSON. Not post douglas.
@PREZ150 My point is that he was always mentally weak. Tyson had to have a trainer who could motivate him. If he didn't he was lazy and he struggled against mediocre competition at times even with Kevin Rooney. Has nothing to do with him being a kid. He ceratinly wasn;'t when he lost to Buster Douglas. Emannuel Stewart doesn't give Tyson a chance in the era of 1970's heavyweights.
@bxnyfordham Tyson was just wild street kid that had to be tame.Cus did it and Don King didn't.Tyson let out side negative forces of no good people around mess his head up.Tyson thought he was indestructable thought he could get away with anything.And that destroy him.If Cus live it would not have been like that.Don King didn't give a shit what Tyson did outside the ring as long as he kept winning in the ring.
Tyson was better in everyway, he was stronger he hit harder, he was faster he had much better head movement. Rocky would have been ko'd early if not beat by points or stoppage, no way after knowing tysons training ethic he could train fight a 20 round fight and normal pace and easily score a ud and even easier to score a ko in 2-3 rounds.
i agree with u when u said Marciano will get Stun N Knockdown in the early rds, BUT he will not stop a Raging Bull like Rocky Marciano. The Realest Results will be
1. Marciano By KO in the later rds,(10 to 15) 100% CHANCE of Results
2. Tyson by TKO in the Mid rds(6 to 10) Due to Marciano Cuts!(Like the ezzard charles rematch) 50%
@sugarfrankjr i think that rocky would increment his weight to face a man like tyson.
rocky weighed 186 pounds because he wanted it, he was heavier of natural way. rocky was a fucking gladiator and he was very solid, he had great determination,great stamina,heart, heavy hands... i think this fight would be hard for the rock, mike was fast,explosive,he had great defense... mike would knock down rocky early but the rock would take mike late.
@combatesdeboxeo You gotta b out of your freaking mind, the fight wouldnt have lasted 30seconds, the first right or left hook mike landed would have broke ur boy down to his knees and it would have been over.if not 30second than i give you 1minute then he would have knocked him out with one of his two punch right hook then uppercuts and then it would hav been over. Too big,too strong,too fast =KO
And What about Ezzard charles... He is One of the most Underrated Champions of the history! Ranked No.1 Best Light heavyweight of all time by Ring Magazine. No.13 by Ring Magazine's 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years. No.8 Best P4P Fighter of alltime by Boxrec.
PREZ150, How the FUCK can u say that Jersey joe walcott N Ezzard charles Was Past Primes when they fought Rocky??? Jersey joe walcott First Big Victories was at 33 years old Against Joey Maxim And Elmer Ray, and his best performance was A 7th rd Devasteting Left Hook KO against Ezzard Charles at the age of 37!
Same deal with Tyson vs. Frazier: Fast starter vs. slower starter. I cannot see Rocky lasting three. Neither guy could fight going backward, so I gotta go with the bigger, stronger, quicker guy. Did Rocky ever fight a guy as quick as Mike? Walcott and Charles were slick, quick and sneaky, but not as fast as Mike, and certainly nowhere near as powerful.
@adamkotta888 Tyson would've ko Rocky maybe with in 3.Walcott and Charles were past there primes when they fought Rocky.And Tyson would've ko both them to.
Tyson typically 215-220 pounds in his prime. He could take a punch, was faster with his hand, head and feet and threw combos. Alot of his fighters were unbeaten such as spinks. Rocky only defended his belt 7 times, tyson 12 this is a big difference. as almost all of rocky's fighters had already been beaten and knocked out before. Study their records don't just look at win vs loss.
Butterbean had 50 wins 2 draw 1 loss, never got a belt. why?
Tyson was a real fighter. Real fighters lose as they fight to be beaten. Rocky was a business man like calzaghe he fights not to be beaten avoiding good competition. Its just the way rocky's camp was, tyson was hand picked by trainers and trained to be the youngest champion which he was.
Prime mike tyson was too fast to powerful and had 40 pounds. of weight advantage. How can rocky who is a light heavy weight knock out a natural heavyweight with 19 and 3/4 inch neck, 34 to 36 inch waist?
"Tyson was a real fighter. Real fighters lose as they fight to be beaten. Rocky was a business man like calzaghe he fights not to be beaten avoiding good competition"
lol it is very funny because mike tyson WANTED NO PART OF OLD FOREMAN 88-91 BECAUSE GEORGE WOULD ABSOLUTELY KICK HIS ASS.
So let's let them fight a hypothetical fight every year from when they are each 24 yo, 25 yo, 26 yo etc until the age of 32 yo. Does Tyson win every fight? The first one only? The last one only? What do you think the record would be?
You said that past the 3rd round Marciano would get the W. So in our hypothetical series of matches, when do those W's start accumulating?
@geoanmel Oh boy a 1985-89 Tyson would've destroy Rocky.I can't say 90 because that was the start of the down hill for Tyson when he lost to Busta Douglas But he was still dangerous but not same fighter of old.If Tyson did'nt get a swell head and let the demons get the better of him he would've broken Rocky's 49-0.
If anyone deserves the credit for Tyson's unquestionable greatness, it should be those responsible for finding him, training him and bringing him to the attention of the world. When left to his own devices, Tyson proved over and over again that he was nothing more than an undisciplined, criminal thug that immediately imploded. Tyson with a great team behind him was great. When the team changed, the greatness faded.
And any half-hearted attempt at understanding these two fighters must show that Marciano was constantly on the attack and that Tyson only had a very brief window of greatness.
During the periods of their respective lives that their careers overlapped, Tyson was 8-3, the Rock was 49-0.
The real mystery is how much better could Rock have been had he received the same caliber of training as Tyson did who was trained from the age of 13 on by world class trainers.
@geoanmel received the same caliber of training as Tyson did who was trained from the age of 13 on by world class trainers. what ! Look Rocky had a record of 49-0 why should he have better trainers ?
@geoanmel Rocky stood no chance with tyson,prime or not..
Tyson typically 215-220 pounds in his prime. He could take a punch, was faster with his hand, head and feet and threw combos. Alot of his fighters were unbeaten such as spinks. Rocky only defended his belt 7 times, tyson 12 this is a big difference. as almost all of rocky's fighters had already been beaten and knocked out before. Study their records. not just win vs loss.
Butterbean had 50 wins 2 draw 1 loss, never got a belt. why?
Prez, are saying that Marciano was no better than James Tillis, Mitch Green, Jose Ribalta, or Pinklon Thomas? Cause if you are, I think you need to defend that.
Next, Marciano wasn't no ear-biter. That's gotta count for something.
And Tyson was awesome from the time he was 18 until he was 24. We will never know about the Rock because unlike Tyson, he wasn't handed his career as a boxer on the silver platter that Tyson had handed to him. But most of all:
@geoanmel No prez is saying Tyson would've beated Rocky in the frist 3 round's or less.Tyson biteing ears dont have nothing to do with what we are thaking about.Silver Platter Tyson fought hard to get where he got.Before his demons got the best of him.You just anti Tyson thats all.
Also, Tyson didn't seem to do all that well against opponents that didn't enter the ring already cowed.
I can't be positive, but I'm reasonably sure that Tyson would have had to fight either standing still or backing up.
One thing IS for certain though, Tyson would not have been fighting coming forward. The aggression showed by Buster Douglas wasn't jack compared to what Rocky brought into the ring.
Tyson's effective reign as champion was over when he was about 24. Marciano's didn't even start boxing until he was 24, his reign as champ started at 29.
For fun, let's compare them at the same chronological age. Let's let them fight a hypothetical match once a year from the age of 24 (the age that Rocky turned pro) until the age of 32 (when Rocky retired).
Tyson's record from the time he was 24 until age 32 was a dismal 8 and 3. Rock's was 49 - 0.
Let me see if I get this straight: Some of you are saying that the man that took a BEAT DOWN by Buster "The Big Dufus" Douglas could beat the heavyweight champion that wore the title "Tireless?"
That's ha-ha-funny!!
My guess is that, like many others, Rocky would have weathered the early storm, if the storm even showed up, then fought at least as well as Buster Douglas did against Tyson. I don't think that's a big stretch.
Tyson v Marciano would see Tyson looking for his mouthpiece.
@geoanmel Tyson v Marciano would see Tyson looking for his mouthpiece. Hmmm? Yea after 5 rounds.But the frist 3 rounds it's all Tyson. If it last that long.
@PREZ150 Up to and including the Douglas fight, >30% of Tyson's fights went past the 3rd round. If you discount Tyson's prepatory fights against obvious bums (those before he went 5 rounds with Mike Jameson), ~50% of Tyson's fights went past the third round.
I think the Rock could have lasted three rounds against Tyson with ease. The same can't be said for Tyson making it 15 rounds against "The Tireless". By your own admission, past the third its a "W" for the Rock making it 50-0.
@geoanmel Look I dont know % but I know this .The middle 1980's to 89 Tyson was awsome .He would've torn in Rocky so fast that the Rock would'tnt have time to mount a attack.Tyson was just too fast and too powerful for Rocky to handle.Rocky fought qestable and old past there fighters.Tyson would've been too strong for the Rock.
@PUGCAT Well you should not speak so loud.When it's not fact.Oh by the way Archie Moore was a old man by the time he fought Patterson.And Chuvalo and Bonavena was no Marciano.
@PUGCAT That's bullshit Marcianonever said he feared Patterson's skill and speed.You give me proof where you got that make believe info.I think rocky would've out last and would've been too strong for Patterson's .Yes Tyson would've beated Marciano in 3 rounds or less.After 8 it would be all Rocky's.
well knowing rocky's heart and chin, I'm sure he would be able to. tysons power is undeniably strong; so is rockys. I'll give hand speed and head movement to Tyson, but rocky easily has a better chin and heart; he never gave up, even when he was behind on the cards with walcott. Tysons heart is not very extroidinary... Tyson would not break down the rock , I think mike would be KOd if it went the distance..
ur right, but i think it would take less than that, if tyson couldnt go 12 rounds with buster douglas i doubt he could have took what the rock had for 15
Even though I'm italian, and maybe at times biased, I think Mike Tyson in his prime could have been too much for Marciano.
Tyson had the speed, and perfection of the peakaboo style, and Marciano's style was basically brute force.
The only way I see Marciano winning, is if Tyson got tired late, , or if Marciano landed a bomb, since Tyson's has been exposed to have an average chin against heavy hitters.
Tyson's head movement and rotational foot movement were too much for slow-handed Marciano to catch him. Tyson had MUCH faster hands than Marciano, would've beaten him too the punch.
Marciano couldn't dance or move, would've stood right in front of Tyson like a bullseye. Marciano got knocked down early by Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore, and, with all due respect to those guys, Tyson hit VASTLY harder than them.
Marciano got knocked down by Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore, Tyson hit harder than both those guys, and would put Rocky on the canvass. But Rock was hard to keep down, and Tyson would have a hard time pinning an extremely strong and tough Rocky to the ropes. Rocky hit harder than anyone Tyson fought, and woe be the opponent who traded punches with Rocky. Both fought on the inside, so it would end in 4 rounds, I'd give the odds 50-50.
A young tyson in my opinion was more than capable of beating any fighter whos ever lived in any generation. But its hard to say unless to fighters actual meet they were both great champions but I think marciano fought the better fighters .
Monte Cox has a similar opinion to yours. Very interesting. coxscorner.tripod.com/rockiron.html
docdoom187 4 months ago
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Marciano had better chin, stamina and heart...it would depend if Tyson could take out Marciano before the late rounds which I can't see happening...if the fight drags on to late rounds Marciano bags the fight by knocking out Tyson. If Tyson can hurt Rocky early I can see Tyson winning by KO but its hard to see that against Marciano...I pick Marciano by 8-10th round KO.
crowley0312 4 months ago
hard to say on this tyson looked unbeatable but buster douglas exposed him and he was never the same. rocky didn't really get exposed but then he fought an aging cincinnati cobra. i think young mike wins only because of modern training, if you gave marciano the same advantages i think rocky edges him but loses to lennox lewis
beniceokay 10 months ago
Tyson has 50 pounds on Marciano you absolute douches. Course tyson would win.
bantermelon 1 year ago
@bantermelon - Spot on. Tyson was a heavyweight while Marciano was a cruiserweight.
BruceinFalkirk 1 week ago
mike tyson had a uppercut that came from the midst of hell
rocky who? balboa
mike had speed
rocky never fought any 1 with the speed and power of a tyson
joe frazier would beat marciano
imamfollower 1 year ago
@imamfollower joe frazier would beat marciano.? Maybe it would be body killer delight.
PREZ150 1 year ago
i thought it was pretty cool how muhammad ali said that marciano's boxing style was like joe fraizers but better.
DodgeDweller420 1 year ago
Who did Tyson fight ? Boxing in the eighties was poor Mike was a great fighter in a bad era . But I have to agree Mike in my opinion could of been the greatest of all time but through his lack of decipline losing to fighters like Buster Doughlas going the distance with Bone crusher
254OOPS 1 year ago
I agree with all that you say in this video, and Tyson would probably have won.
Saying that, Tyson always seemed weary and often folded when he came up against fighters who didn't fear him, who weren't intimidated by him or let him get that psychological edge. Such as Holyfield or Douglas, and I find it hard to picture the Rock being afraid of Tyson.
999TheGreatest 1 year ago
@999TheGreatest That was the post Tyson after his defeat with Douglas he was not the same fighter after that .And Holyfield and Lewis knew it.
PREZ150 1 year ago
@PREZ150 I disagree with that. Cus and Teddy Atlas had to shout at Mike in the amateurs because he would get frustrated with guys who wouldn't stay down. He tried to quit against a white kid from Scranton pa who wouldn't stay down and Teddy threatned to stop his boxing if he didn't stay in there. He would get frustrated sparing Joe Egan of the Irish boxing team for the same reason. Joe wouldn't go anywhere when he hit him. That is a PRIME TYSON. Not post douglas.
bxnyfordham 9 months ago
@bxnyfordham Tyson was young green behind the ear's still a kid.So what .
PREZ150 9 months ago
@PREZ150 My point is that he was always mentally weak. Tyson had to have a trainer who could motivate him. If he didn't he was lazy and he struggled against mediocre competition at times even with Kevin Rooney. Has nothing to do with him being a kid. He ceratinly wasn;'t when he lost to Buster Douglas. Emannuel Stewart doesn't give Tyson a chance in the era of 1970's heavyweights.
bxnyfordham 9 months ago
@bxnyfordham Tyson was just wild street kid that had to be tame.Cus did it and Don King didn't.Tyson let out side negative forces of no good people around mess his head up.Tyson thought he was indestructable thought he could get away with anything.And that destroy him.If Cus live it would not have been like that.Don King didn't give a shit what Tyson did outside the ring as long as he kept winning in the ring.
PREZ150 9 months ago
Tyson was better in everyway, he was stronger he hit harder, he was faster he had much better head movement. Rocky would have been ko'd early if not beat by points or stoppage, no way after knowing tysons training ethic he could train fight a 20 round fight and normal pace and easily score a ud and even easier to score a ko in 2-3 rounds.
MultiGreat1 1 year ago
hmmmm ? What????
sugarfrankjr 1 year ago
i agree with u when u said Marciano will get Stun N Knockdown in the early rds, BUT he will not stop a Raging Bull like Rocky Marciano. The Realest Results will be
1. Marciano By KO in the later rds,(10 to 15) 100% CHANCE of Results
2. Tyson by TKO in the Mid rds(6 to 10) Due to Marciano Cuts!(Like the ezzard charles rematch) 50%
3. Tyson by KO in the early rds(1to6) 50%
sugarfrankjr 1 year ago
@sugarfrankjr Hmmmm? ok
PREZ150 1 year ago
@sugarfrankjr I'm not sure you understand how percentages work... Thats 200%.
Fudelan 1 year ago
@sugarfrankjr i think that rocky would increment his weight to face a man like tyson.
rocky weighed 186 pounds because he wanted it, he was heavier of natural way. rocky was a fucking gladiator and he was very solid, he had great determination,great stamina,heart, heavy hands... i think this fight would be hard for the rock, mike was fast,explosive,he had great defense... mike would knock down rocky early but the rock would take mike late.
combatesdeboxeo 1 year ago
@combatesdeboxeo You gotta b out of your freaking mind, the fight wouldnt have lasted 30seconds, the first right or left hook mike landed would have broke ur boy down to his knees and it would have been over.if not 30second than i give you 1minute then he would have knocked him out with one of his two punch right hook then uppercuts and then it would hav been over. Too big,too strong,too fast =KO
globalsbc 10 months ago
And What about Ezzard charles... He is One of the most Underrated Champions of the history! Ranked No.1 Best Light heavyweight of all time by Ring Magazine. No.13 by Ring Magazine's 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years. No.8 Best P4P Fighter of alltime by Boxrec.
sugarfrankjr 1 year ago
@sugarfrankjr So what about him.He was good.Thats all.
PREZ150 1 year ago
PREZ150, How the FUCK can u say that Jersey joe walcott N Ezzard charles Was Past Primes when they fought Rocky??? Jersey joe walcott First Big Victories was at 33 years old Against Joey Maxim And Elmer Ray, and his best performance was A 7th rd Devasteting Left Hook KO against Ezzard Charles at the age of 37!
sugarfrankjr 1 year ago
@sugarfrankjr 37 is old in boxing.Did you that jack.lol
PREZ150 1 year ago
Same deal with Tyson vs. Frazier: Fast starter vs. slower starter. I cannot see Rocky lasting three. Neither guy could fight going backward, so I gotta go with the bigger, stronger, quicker guy. Did Rocky ever fight a guy as quick as Mike? Walcott and Charles were slick, quick and sneaky, but not as fast as Mike, and certainly nowhere near as powerful.
adamkotta888 1 year ago
@adamkotta888 Tyson would've ko Rocky maybe with in 3.Walcott and Charles were past there primes when they fought Rocky.And Tyson would've ko both them to.
PREZ150 1 year ago
Rocky stood no chance with tyson,prime or not..
Tyson typically 215-220 pounds in his prime. He could take a punch, was faster with his hand, head and feet and threw combos. Alot of his fighters were unbeaten such as spinks. Rocky only defended his belt 7 times, tyson 12 this is a big difference. as almost all of rocky's fighters had already been beaten and knocked out before. Study their records don't just look at win vs loss.
Butterbean had 50 wins 2 draw 1 loss, never got a belt. why?
boxingexpert187 1 year ago
Tyson was a real fighter. Real fighters lose as they fight to be beaten. Rocky was a business man like calzaghe he fights not to be beaten avoiding good competition. Its just the way rocky's camp was, tyson was hand picked by trainers and trained to be the youngest champion which he was.
Prime mike tyson was too fast to powerful and had 40 pounds. of weight advantage. How can rocky who is a light heavy weight knock out a natural heavyweight with 19 and 3/4 inch neck, 34 to 36 inch waist?
boxingexpert187 1 year ago
"Tyson was a real fighter. Real fighters lose as they fight to be beaten. Rocky was a business man like calzaghe he fights not to be beaten avoiding good competition"
lol it is very funny because mike tyson WANTED NO PART OF OLD FOREMAN 88-91 BECAUSE GEORGE WOULD ABSOLUTELY KICK HIS ASS.
combatesdeboxeo 1 year ago
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@PREZ150
1. I certainly didn't mean to imply that it was outside the realm of possibility, merely unlikely.
2. Tyson told is like it was huh? Would that have been when he said he wanted to eat Lennox Lewis' children.
3. Had Rocky been given free, world-class training from the age of 13 on, the history books might look a bit different.
4. And which demons did Tyson face that Rocky didn't? (I actually do know of one that you don't know. But I'll never tell.)
RockyManciano 1 year ago
Prez150,
And you're a pussy for banning me instead of meeting me in battle.
RockyManciano 1 year ago
@PREZ150
1. I certainly didn't mean to imply that it was outside the realm of possibility, merely unlikely.
2. Tyson told is like it was huh? Would that have been when he said he wanted to eat Lennox Lewis' children.
3. Had Rocky been given free, world-class training from the age of 13 on, the history books might look a bit different.
4. And which demons did Tyson face that Rocky didn't? (I actually do know of one that you don't know. But I'll never tell.)
RockyManciano 1 year ago
So Tyson was over-the-hill at the same age at which Marciano started his career?
geoanmel 1 year ago
So let's let them fight a hypothetical fight every year from when they are each 24 yo, 25 yo, 26 yo etc until the age of 32 yo. Does Tyson win every fight? The first one only? The last one only? What do you think the record would be?
You said that past the 3rd round Marciano would get the W. So in our hypothetical series of matches, when do those W's start accumulating?
geoanmel 1 year ago
@geoanmel Oh boy a 1985-89 Tyson would've destroy Rocky.I can't say 90 because that was the start of the down hill for Tyson when he lost to Busta Douglas But he was still dangerous but not same fighter of old.If Tyson did'nt get a swell head and let the demons get the better of him he would've broken Rocky's 49-0.
PREZ150 1 year ago
@geoanmel when do those W's start accumulating? When tyson starts getting tire after the 8 rounds.Then thats when Rocky's Stamina comes kicking on.
PREZ150 1 year ago
If anyone deserves the credit for Tyson's unquestionable greatness, it should be those responsible for finding him, training him and bringing him to the attention of the world. When left to his own devices, Tyson proved over and over again that he was nothing more than an undisciplined, criminal thug that immediately imploded. Tyson with a great team behind him was great. When the team changed, the greatness faded.
geoanmel 1 year ago
And any half-hearted attempt at understanding these two fighters must show that Marciano was constantly on the attack and that Tyson only had a very brief window of greatness.
During the periods of their respective lives that their careers overlapped, Tyson was 8-3, the Rock was 49-0.
The real mystery is how much better could Rock have been had he received the same caliber of training as Tyson did who was trained from the age of 13 on by world class trainers.
geoanmel 1 year ago
@geoanmel received the same caliber of training as Tyson did who was trained from the age of 13 on by world class trainers. what ! Look Rocky had a record of 49-0 why should he have better trainers ?
PREZ150 1 year ago
First, the thing about Tyson being a biter was a joke.
Second, every heavyweight champion fought hard to make it to the show.
Third, Rocky faced the same demons but they were unable to best the Rock.
Fourth, even if I am anti-Tyson, what has that got to do with anything?
Fifth, to believe that the Rock would have only lasted three rounds borders on the laughable.
I can only think of a very few fights where Tyson's opponent was bringing it to him. He never did very well against them.
geoanmel 1 year ago
@geoanmel No there there demons was different form each other.The only thing Rocky kelpt his feelings in where Tyson told it like it is.
PREZ150 1 year ago
@geoanmel borders on the laughable. Hmmm ? Well it's makes me laugh that you think it could'nt happen.
PREZ150 1 year ago
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@geoanmel Rocky stood no chance with tyson,prime or not..
Tyson typically 215-220 pounds in his prime. He could take a punch, was faster with his hand, head and feet and threw combos. Alot of his fighters were unbeaten such as spinks. Rocky only defended his belt 7 times, tyson 12 this is a big difference. as almost all of rocky's fighters had already been beaten and knocked out before. Study their records. not just win vs loss.
Butterbean had 50 wins 2 draw 1 loss, never got a belt. why?
boxingexpert187 1 year ago
Prez, are saying that Marciano was no better than James Tillis, Mitch Green, Jose Ribalta, or Pinklon Thomas? Cause if you are, I think you need to defend that.
Next, Marciano wasn't no ear-biter. That's gotta count for something.
And Tyson was awesome from the time he was 18 until he was 24. We will never know about the Rock because unlike Tyson, he wasn't handed his career as a boxer on the silver platter that Tyson had handed to him. But most of all:
The Rock lasted.
Tyson didn't.
geoanmel 1 year ago
@geoanmel No prez is saying Tyson would've beated Rocky in the frist 3 round's or less.Tyson biteing ears dont have nothing to do with what we are thaking about.Silver Platter Tyson fought hard to get where he got.Before his demons got the best of him.You just anti Tyson thats all.
PREZ150 1 year ago
Also, Tyson didn't seem to do all that well against opponents that didn't enter the ring already cowed.
I can't be positive, but I'm reasonably sure that Tyson would have had to fight either standing still or backing up.
One thing IS for certain though, Tyson would not have been fighting coming forward. The aggression showed by Buster Douglas wasn't jack compared to what Rocky brought into the ring.
geoanmel 1 year ago
Tyson's effective reign as champion was over when he was about 24. Marciano's didn't even start boxing until he was 24, his reign as champ started at 29.
For fun, let's compare them at the same chronological age. Let's let them fight a hypothetical match once a year from the age of 24 (the age that Rocky turned pro) until the age of 32 (when Rocky retired).
Tyson's record from the time he was 24 until age 32 was a dismal 8 and 3. Rock's was 49 - 0.
My jack is on the Rock.
geoanmel 1 year ago
Let me see if I get this straight: Some of you are saying that the man that took a BEAT DOWN by Buster "The Big Dufus" Douglas could beat the heavyweight champion that wore the title "Tireless?"
That's ha-ha-funny!!
My guess is that, like many others, Rocky would have weathered the early storm, if the storm even showed up, then fought at least as well as Buster Douglas did against Tyson. I don't think that's a big stretch.
Tyson v Marciano would see Tyson looking for his mouthpiece.
geoanmel 1 year ago
@geoanmel Tyson v Marciano would see Tyson looking for his mouthpiece. Hmmm? Yea after 5 rounds.But the frist 3 rounds it's all Tyson. If it last that long.
PREZ150 1 year ago
@PREZ150 Up to and including the Douglas fight, >30% of Tyson's fights went past the 3rd round. If you discount Tyson's prepatory fights against obvious bums (those before he went 5 rounds with Mike Jameson), ~50% of Tyson's fights went past the third round.
I think the Rock could have lasted three rounds against Tyson with ease. The same can't be said for Tyson making it 15 rounds against "The Tireless". By your own admission, past the third its a "W" for the Rock making it 50-0.
geoanmel 1 year ago
@geoanmel Look I dont know % but I know this .The middle 1980's to 89 Tyson was awsome .He would've torn in Rocky so fast that the Rock would'tnt have time to mount a attack.Tyson was just too fast and too powerful for Rocky to handle.Rocky fought qestable and old past there fighters.Tyson would've been too strong for the Rock.
PREZ150 1 year ago
@PUGCAT Well you should not speak so loud.When it's not fact.Oh by the way Archie Moore was a old man by the time he fought Patterson.And Chuvalo and Bonavena was no Marciano.
PREZ150 2 years ago
@PUGCAT That's bullshit Marcianonever said he feared Patterson's skill and speed.You give me proof where you got that make believe info.I think rocky would've out last and would've been too strong for Patterson's .Yes Tyson would've beated Marciano in 3 rounds or less.After 8 it would be all Rocky's.
PREZ150 2 years ago
I agree
PREZ150 2 years ago
well knowing rocky's heart and chin, I'm sure he would be able to. tysons power is undeniably strong; so is rockys. I'll give hand speed and head movement to Tyson, but rocky easily has a better chin and heart; he never gave up, even when he was behind on the cards with walcott. Tysons heart is not very extroidinary... Tyson would not break down the rock , I think mike would be KOd if it went the distance..
TommyGun7111 2 years ago
You right if it went pass 8 rounds it's all Rocky's.
PREZ150 2 years ago
If Marciano got past 5 rounds with Tyson.Rocky would wear down Tyson by 8-15 rounds
PREZ150 2 years ago
ur right, but i think it would take less than that, if tyson couldnt go 12 rounds with buster douglas i doubt he could have took what the rock had for 15
dazza2610 2 years ago
Tyson was no good as the rounds got longer.
PREZ150 2 years ago
Hey, I like your insights on the fights.
Even though I'm italian, and maybe at times biased, I think Mike Tyson in his prime could have been too much for Marciano.
Tyson had the speed, and perfection of the peakaboo style, and Marciano's style was basically brute force.
The only way I see Marciano winning, is if Tyson got tired late, , or if Marciano landed a bomb, since Tyson's has been exposed to have an average chin against heavy hitters.
But I think Tyson would have got him.
punchout316 2 years ago
Tyson wins early rounds .Marciano wins later rounds
PREZ150 2 years ago
@PREZ150 agreed
punchout316 2 years ago
Tyson's head movement and rotational foot movement were too much for slow-handed Marciano to catch him. Tyson had MUCH faster hands than Marciano, would've beaten him too the punch.
Marciano couldn't dance or move, would've stood right in front of Tyson like a bullseye. Marciano got knocked down early by Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore, and, with all due respect to those guys, Tyson hit VASTLY harder than them.
Prediction: Tyson over Marciano,
3rd round KO.
wheelinthesky300 2 years ago
I agree 100%
PREZ150 2 years ago
Marciano got knocked down by Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore, Tyson hit harder than both those guys, and would put Rocky on the canvass. But Rock was hard to keep down, and Tyson would have a hard time pinning an extremely strong and tough Rocky to the ropes. Rocky hit harder than anyone Tyson fought, and woe be the opponent who traded punches with Rocky. Both fought on the inside, so it would end in 4 rounds, I'd give the odds 50-50.
wheelinthesky300 2 years ago
I agree.What a short fight that would be.
PREZ150 2 years ago
A young tyson in my opinion was more than capable of beating any fighter whos ever lived in any generation. But its hard to say unless to fighters actual meet they were both great champions but I think marciano fought the better fighters .
254OOPS 2 years ago
Marciano fought qestionable fighters.He was better than these past there prime bums
PREZ150 2 years ago
Faster than Marciano.
PREZ150 2 years ago
Tyson !!!!!
truthhitmanisback 2 years ago