Secret Copenhagen Climate recording reveals resistance from China and India

[jonohx]

The wealthy, insulated elite try to decide behind closed doors how much tax should be arbitrarily extracted from ordinary citizens. The elite are not subject to the taxes the propose and do not have to worry about paying their day-to-day bills - because we pay them .

[dedicateddad]

The entire CAGW mess is a HOAX, designed to further cripple "developed" countries.

Already - in the name of "environmentalism" - the US government has driven effectively all of its manufacturing capabilities to third-world countries, primarily china.

How is it better to make something in china - with ZERO restrictions on pollution - than in the US with SOME restrictions?

"Carbon taxes"/"credits" are JUST a scam to further enrich the uber-rich at the poor's expense.

JUST SAY **HELL** NO!

[ulyks]

@UFO dude : I thought you were an alien or at least your parents are...a username can be misleading :-)

I agree that it would be unfair to ask the European Union to lower their emissions without any reductions in China or the US. But I have a feeling that my fellow-Europeans are often blaming China or the US for our problems and don't take responsibility. A reduction scheme based on per capita emissions should have been proposed at Copenhagen but no one of the EU had the courage to do that.

[ulyks]

I myself am Belgian and I don't agree that Europe reduced its emissions extremely, some admirable efforts were made but the average emissions have still risen a bit the last 10 years in Europe. And at this moment we are still emitting twice the amount an average Chinese pollutes.Remember that two thirds of the Chinese don't have car, , don't have a dishwasher, never took an airplane. They need to save every penny they can to make ends meet and that includes saving water and electricity. 

[ulyks]

Obviously the developing countries refuse to reduce their emissions as much as the developed. Their per capita pollution is at least four times lower. To be fair the US should reduce 90% Europe 75% and China 50% by 2050. That is without looking into historical responsibility...

[RodsUFOHateClub]

@ulyks you are talking without knowledge. Europe reduced their emissions extremely, more than any other part of the world. Youre right about the USA, but the EU and Japan are giving everything they can for most thing. Im not only talking about emissions, more about billion of dollars for developing countries..hu?

[RodsUFOHateClub]

@ulyks I thought your an afgahn..or at least your parents are. Anyways, Why you don't life in China if you are on their side? Im sorry, but I will not let me tell what to do from a dictatorship or islamicregime and althought not from a "democracy" which invades other countries like the USA. The European-Union is like an island in this world, where peace, egality and freedom are still alive.